| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/12/2008 2:29:57 PM | Today on CNN I saw Bob Barr is now seeking the nomination for the Libertarian Party's candidate for President.
As an independent with really no good choices for President so far I took a look at his web site for more information and liked what I read so far.
He seems to be very similar to Ron Paul but without that "crazy uncle we all just say its ok uncle" and leave in the corner.
Anyone else know much about the guy?
I would love to see what the opinions are out there about him.
Sadly with the grip the two major parties have on the ballots for President the Libertarian party only has ballot access to 28 states so far.
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/12/2008 2:53:15 PM | Yes! Here is the alternative for the McCain supporters that aren't totally satisfied with the republican nominee.
Barr is a real conservative, so I say why not? Do the country a favor. Vote for Barr! | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/12/2008 2:55:12 PM | .
He is Family Values Guy..
He has been married three times
While married to his second wife, he was having an affair with his soon to be third wife.
He has been required to appear in court at least twice for failure to pay child support.
While Still married to wife number two, his wife decided to have an abortion. Barr, (Anti-Abortion) not only allowed his wife to have the abortion, he drove her to the abortion clinic and he paid the medical bill...Barr calls abortion murder
Barr was observed licking whipped cream off a stripper's breast.
He was a Leader in the House Impeachment of Clinton......
I have heard him on Radio .................. and I have to be Honest I kinda like the Guy.....
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/12/2008 3:28:38 PM | Doles and Hammerskin members Derek Gooden, Tate Strahorn, Miles Downing and Jason McGhee planned several white rock and roll concerts and publicly claimed the September 11th attacks were America's punishment for doing business with Jews.[citation needed]
In 2003, he was arrested on one felony charge of firearms possession, to which he pled guilty.[1] At his trial, Doles' defense team included former US congressman Bob Barr.[2]
Doles had been sentenced to seven years imprisonment in 1993 for assaulting a black motorist along with fellow Klansman Raymond Pierson. Doles pled guilty as part of a plea agreement to testify against Pierson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_Doles
Poor choice of company to keep for someone who wants to be president. Defending klansman is very unpresidential for modern times. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 12:12:13 AM | | I guess he thought if the people one associates with is ok for some it's ok for all. Maybe he'll issue a statement saying he denounces those sort of actions, since It's been bought to everyones attention. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 2:16:55 AM | | Barr??? Puke. I thought the repugs were scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with McCain (who even the repugs can't stand) but there 'ya go. Looking underneath the barrel. Oh yeah. Bring him on. | |
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NERO1
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 7:44:46 AM | I'm happy to hear about his run because basically if nothing else he may act a bit like Nader had in the past with Dems and pull even more potential ("default") GOP voters away from a McCain vote. Too many probably would-be GOP voters seem to be totally disgruntled with what they've been left with as a choice. Furthermore Barr will probably draw a lot of the Ron Paul crowd as well. I'm happy to hear also that the Paulians are planning a mass disruption of the Republican convention.  Nothing like watching anything resembling dissension in the enemy camp. In general though it seems like the Paul (and Barr, and Pat Buchanan, etc) people are mostly right; the current bunch leading the GOP, and of course their current nominee as well, don't even seem like true Republicans anymore. More like a bunch of neoconservative plutocrats and corporatist-militarists, interested primarily in keeping their "W" Bush tax cuts in place and letting the military-industrial complex continue to run on auto pilot.
PS -- in the film "Borat", Bob Barr is the "top ranking Party official" which Borat goes to see in Washington, & he tells Barr that in his country it's customary to eat cheese together, and Barr takes some, says it's delicious, and then Borat says, "my wife make it... from the milk of her t!t..." while Bob Barr's chewing it! | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 11:10:24 AM | | I'm not too thrilled with Bob Barr. In an interview with Neil Boortz, Barr said he'd be for allowing illegal aliens to remain in the country if they met certain requirements(just another form of amnesty). Guess he didn't learn for the 1986 amnesty that if you reward lawbreaking, you get more of it. At least Ron Paul learned from the 1986 amnesty and does not support any form of amnesty for illegal aliens. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 11:18:10 AM |
I'm happy to hear about his run because basically if nothing else he may act a bit like Nader had in the past with Dems and pull even more potential ("default") GOP voters away from a McCain vote. Too many probably would-be GOP voters seem to be totally disgruntled with what they've been left with as a choice. Furthermore Barr will probably draw a lot of the Ron Paul crowd as well.
I don't think Barr will make that big an impact, unfortunately. However, I think it's naive to think he will draw only, or even mostly, from the GOP. His stance on the war, immigration, civil liberties, and the size of government differs significantly from both other candidates.
If people really want a foreign policy change, they know who to vote for. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 1:00:02 PM | Yes! Yes! Go Bob Barr. Show McCain what a real conservative is supposed to be!
The real right-wing needs you! The whole country needs you! | |
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NERO1
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 1:10:06 PM | To msg 9, I actually (as an Obama-supporting liberal myself) find myself in agreement with the Libertarians on issues ranging from America's ridiculous recent record of foreign military adventurism and interventionism, the "military-industrial complex", illegal occupations (such as Iraq), & the need for nearly immediately beginning troop w/drawals from there. As well as the issue of cutting off (or seriously looking into at least) all these ongoing billions of dollars worth of aid to Israel for example. I think Paul spoke truths when he stated what the GOP (and even many of the Dems) couldn't bear hearing; that America's very own foreign policy is (or was) if not THE cause then at least a huge huge part of the cause for the 9/11 attacks, and so on.
And then what did they do after?? They proceeded to only worsen the wound, and actually HELP with terrorist recruiting by opening up a gaping power vacuum in the heart of the Middle East (in a previously essentially uninvolved nation) and thereby created a playground and training ground for more of these people. They tortured people in secret camps and prisons like Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, and thus only further inflamed Muslim (hell even non-Muslim) sentiment against this country's policies. Thus again creating nothing but still more potential radicals and terrorists from amongst the Muslims.
So some day when an office building in a big American city is sheared in two in the early morning hours by a massive truck bomb, it may well be an Iraqi this time, who previously would never have done that kind of thing but was moved to after he lost his mother or father or sister or brother (or all of the above) in the US's "shock and awe" bombing for example. And the survivors of the victims of that (still hypothetical) next terror attack should send personalized 'thank-you' letters to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, et.al., everyone else who helped make the invasion, occupation, torture prison camps, etc , possible.
And the obviously biased kid gloves w/which the US handles Israel as opposed to the Muslims of the region is just one more inconvenient truth (to borrow the title Al Gore gave to his global warming film). It simply can't go on forever; not unless they literally never want to win any "war on terror". So on issues such as changing US foreign policy, ending the Iraq occupation, and on civil liberties as well (privacy, "war on drugs" , etc) I'm basically with the Libertarians. As far as other issues, I'm (personally) essentially indifferent on the whole immigration thing, but where I do differ with them most seriously is in areas of overall size of gov't and gov't services, gov't roles, etc, and on gun control. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 6:57:00 PM | Very interesting so far.
I for one would like to see more significant choices out there. Now that the democratic stuff is winding down, the three stooges are doing nothing for me in the real deal. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 7:17:57 PM | He may be able to stir things up, not that they need stirring. He's never been a straight-line right-winger, he went off the reservation more than most and I think he made some pretty good insults about Bush. But hey, who hasn't.
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 10:12:23 PM | Today on CNN I saw Bob Barr is now seeking the nomination for the Libertarian Party's candidate for President.
I was impressed with Barr during the hearings on the Waco massacre. However, I have a tough time believing that he's going to come out supporting decriminalization of all drugs and prostitution, legalization of gay marriage, or abortion rights. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/13/2008 10:30:43 PM | "come out supporting decriminalization of all drugs and prostitution, legalization of gay marriage, or abortion rights."
These are not really libertarian issues, especially not the last two. Don't get me wrong, I support the full legalization of all drugs and prostitution and think government should have no role in marriage, but these are among the least important issues. Far more important than these social issues are... you know...
foreign and domestic policy. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/18/2008 7:08:03 PM |
Poor choice of company to keep for someone who wants to be president. Defending klansman is very unpresidential for modern times.
You're right. The eventual Democratic candidate should not be photographed with, or accept the endorsement of, Senator Robert C. Byrd... | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/18/2008 7:10:48 PM | | Bob Barr voted for the patriot act ! nuff said. he isn't even a true libertarian he's a neo con shill trying to pose as a libertarian. | |
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NERO1
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Joined: 3/8/2008
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/18/2008 7:44:10 PM |
he isn't even a true libertarian he's a neo con shill trying to pose as a libertarian.
Musical chairs. The candidate chosen for Republicans is a poison pill as well... | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/18/2008 7:48:21 PM | | trust me guys Bob barr is no good , if you want a true constitutionalist libertarian even though he's running as a republican your only choice is Ron Paul. He is still running by the way all the way to the convention so if you want a good man to run America and really fix things you have only one chance. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrQIhDjlnY | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/27/2008 9:26:38 PM | | As of Sunday, Bob Barr is the LP's man. Not exactly my ideal LP choice (way too socially conservative for my tastes), but I'm happy he's the man. He has name recognition and given today's climate I bet he gets more votes than any LPer before him. If he can raise money like Ron Paul did, it's even possible for him to pull a Nader. | |
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/28/2008 5:23:02 AM | Barr is nothing but a LINO. Libertarian In Name Only! When he was a member of congress his stance on almost everything that sets the Libertarians apart from the other two was always with the GOP. He is NOT a Libertarian in any way whatsosever.
I don't know why he ran for their nomination because his political views do not reflect the Libertarian platform. Perhaps he has a book to sell and this will give him good PR. | |
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NERO1
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Joined: 3/8/2008
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| Bob Barr and the Libertarian Party
Posted: 5/28/2008 8:36:33 AM | | Personally I think he's going to Nader McCain. In a close or difficult race, if I were McCain I wouldn't be real happy with this development. And on top of that , to have GW Bush siding up to him all the time doesn't help much either... | |
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