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 wisguyingb
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Has anyone heard of the 2012 pole shift? The 2012 date is very important to many cultures and religions. The mayans said that this is when evil will be lifted away from earth. The native americans call it the time of the great purification. And of course christians have Armagedon. So what does everyone else think about this? I'm posting this to get good conversation started.
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
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Posted: 5/13/2008 6:08:04 PM
Hey mmalueg,

Word to the wise, Tigerbee started a similar thread a while ago. As far as I'm aware, the 2012 date is one only attributed to the Mayan calendar. The fact First Nations people and the Mayans would share similar mythos would likely stem from the fact that they likely traded with each other and passed stories along to others over time.

The so called "pole shift" is something that is explained as encompassing a variety of phenomenon from a simple magnetic shift (possible but likely a longer-term natural phenomenon taking centuries or millennia) to some mysterious object from the depths of space disrupting Earth's orbit (very not probable at all). Most of it stems from half-truths, junk science, new-age rhetoric with no substance and just plain ignorance of basic science.

In short I think Dec. 31, 2012 will give way to Jan. 1 2013 without too much to worry about anything beyond the usual geo-political machinations.
 GeminiGal64
Joined: 12/23/2007
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Posted: 5/13/2008 6:52:22 PM
I believe the date is Oct 12, 2012 - though I may be off. I've been introduced to this date - where the Mayans' calendar "ends". If I remember right - the earth's position in the universe will be in perfect alignment (to?)
 OTTO BONN
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Posted: 5/13/2008 9:26:12 PM
I am looking forward to it because of all the cool Aurora Borealis!
 kdrac24
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Posted: 5/13/2008 10:53:46 PM
the polar shift is occuring as we speak altho ... the date of the full shift might not be '12 the atmosphere is already starting to show signs of it and it wont be too much longer.. maby 8-30 years.. or so.. i know it will be within most of our lifetimes... and for a couple years.. there will be a servere uv warning but aside from that... you will be able to breathe... lol

and i think they may have halted their calendar due to a fiew reasons...
... the end of their scociety
... no need to go further
... and sometimes great works like that are due to a single persons life work and he died
... or just maby there was a change that they could not account for
(that in itself is an astounding thing that with limited tools they had a better understanding of the earth than most of us do today)
it is a shame they arent around to tell us "how"
mostly we will have to wait and see

and the same applies for the samurai and their understanding of metalurgy... we still cannot produce a sword comparable... maby we tend nowadays to over look the simple things... that are more tested and reliable than some of our "equipment"

... pardon me im rambling .... maby i need sleep..
 dudleyh45
Joined: 9/22/2007
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Posted: 5/13/2008 11:23:28 PM
so is this pole shift away from or toward the sun? I remember back in about 2000 or 01 we were supposedly as close to the sun as we ever get and are now moving away from it. It is a 120 year cycle so after 60 years we would start to move closer again. So now as we move away from the sun is the earth going to cool and how long will the oceans hold their heat? In 40 years we'll be back to the type of weather we had in the 60's but anyone that would remember it will be dead or decrepid so nobody will know how to cope.
Wow i went into my own world again. Sorry about that chief.
What was that October 12 2012 the end of the world again. Do we all have to get new doohickeys for our computers like they said we would for 2000? Sounds like a chance to make some cash for someone. Not me i make enough as it is. I want peace of mind not wealth. But someone should make millions at that. That's all i think of it someone will orofit off the end of the world ...... again.
 sam-spade
Joined: 12/2/2007
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Posted: 5/14/2008 6:14:31 AM
Ok.... 2012 has come and gone. What new date is set to spell our doom?
 dudleyh45
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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:24:01 PM
What new date is set to spell our doom?

April 14 2134 beware boogy booogy
 Kingreol
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Posted: 5/14/2008 10:15:35 PM
this will not happen nabiru(planet x) is a myth going around for a LONG time. and the pole shift whould be measurable even now to hit that 4 year deadline
 Briannazg2
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Posted: 5/15/2008 12:56:09 AM
http://www.polereversal.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&task=videodirectlink&Itemid=41&id=4

great audio....
 novascotialass
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Posted: 5/15/2008 2:22:19 PM
Yeah. Great audio if you're into the end of the world

Besides seeing this hypothesis shown on a documentary (used loosely) on the Discovery channel one night, I've found no other credible evidence of this pole shift. Scientists don't en masses hide data, so why isn't this showing up in the scientific literature?
 quietjohn2
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Posted: 5/15/2008 4:39:55 PM
Soundslike an excuse for a mighty long party.........
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/reversals.html


On average, reversals of the Earth's magnetic field happen every 250,000 years. It's now been about 720,000 years since our last reversal. Judging from history, we know that a reversal is long overdue. But there's no need to throw away your old compasses. A reversal usually takes hundreds or thousands of years to complete.
 Prairiephotos
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Posted: 5/16/2008 9:48:13 AM

I am looking forward to it because of all the cool Aurora Borealis!


I'm hoping for in increase in geomagnetic activity by the end of the summer. I haven't shot any decent aurora photos in over a year!
 wisguyingb
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Posted: 5/16/2008 11:29:11 AM
Call me crazy, but I hope the pole DO shift. We people have runied this planet, and each other. The only things we seem to care about is $$$money$$$, nice cars, big homes, sex sex sex, and other material things. I guess we will find out if this thing is real or not in about 3 1/2 years. There's actually a neat video on youtube. It's from the history channel. Just type in 2012 pole shift and it should be one of the first ones to come up. It's actually the first one to show up.

 adamf73
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Posted: 5/16/2008 11:56:48 AM
The poles ARE shifting, mmalueg.

Dudley - The magnetic north pole is moving steadily south, over Canada, faster than before.

Mayan calendars have been astonishingly accurate. They predicted the last solar eclipse in the southern hemisphere (I think) to within 12 seconds.

What worries me is does anyone have surficient amounts of lead plating?! No one knows how long we are to be 'unprotected', as it were/is. Scientists say this happens every 75,000 years or so. Mankind has survived it a number of times then.

What about those cosmic rays, x-rays, solar rays etc? Sunblock wont surfice, I dare say! What of the magnetosphere?

Then there are the ripples to think about. It wont just be as if nothing has happened. Cause and effect.

Birds will be flying North for winter, then. Elephants, whales and other living creatures that naturally use their senses (naturally!) in conjunction with the magnetic forces will be a little confused, will they not? Maybe they will just take it in their stride. Afterall, they are far more tuned in to the natural way of things than we humans are.

Ever used a spherical compass like the one that temporarily stays stuck to the inside or your car windshield? I think it could be like that. The magentic pole will slowly make its way down south when suddenly . . . . POP! North is South and vice versa.

Otto - yeh the lights will put on a good show!
 adamf73
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Posted: 5/18/2008 3:51:40 AM
Halley's Comet.

Halley's Comet visits in pairs eight years apart and then is absent for around a century or so. It's next visit is in 2012. Hmm.
 Archades
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Posted: 5/18/2008 8:54:43 AM
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm

It's the sun that has the polar shift.
 adamf73
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Posted: 5/18/2008 9:14:19 AM
It states that the sun has flipped, so to speak.

Earth is about to have another one, otherwise the poles wouldn't be moving.


February 15, 2001 -- You can't tell by looking, but scientists say the Sun has just undergone an important change. Our star's magnetic field has flipped.

The Sun's magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere just a few months ago, now points south. It's a topsy-turvy situation, but not an unexpected one.



Earth’s magnetic field also flips, but with less regularity. Consecutive reversals are spaced 5 thousand years to 50 million years apart. The last reversal happened 740,000 years ago. Some researchers think our planet is overdue for another one, but nobody knows exactly when the next reversal might occur.
 shammgod
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Posted: 5/18/2008 10:19:26 AM

Halley's Comet.

Halley's Comet visits in pairs eight years apart and then is absent for around a century or so. It's next visit is in 2012. Hmm.


The next scheduled visit is 2061, not 2012.
 adamf73
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Posted: 5/27/2008 12:31:51 PM
That was done on an Atari computer! Not a Mayan calender! hehe

2061 it is, shammgod. Thanks for the correction.
 Supreme_Pizza
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Posted: 5/27/2008 10:46:55 PM
The poles are moving but it's not a literal "flip". That makes it sound like it's all at once. First the magnetic axis drifts then the planet adjusts it's rotational axis. It's more of a gradual thing. It's not the end of the world, it's been happening since the earth started rotating.
 adamf73
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Posted: 5/28/2008 6:37:57 AM
Yeh, its happened more than once. Modern man. If we haven't seen it then it hasn't happened blah blah blah.

Got out the wrong side of bed today
 lucretia21
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Posted: 5/28/2008 11:03:15 PM
An interesting read is a book called Apocalypse 2012, by Lawrence E. Joseph. It goes into the scientific, religious and cultural beliefs that single out this date. (For the record, it's December 21st, 2012 according to the Mayan calendar)

It's quite interesting because it brings recent natural disasters and their causes, into the mix of things. It's also quite humourous, if you're a non-believer. I'd strongly recommend it to anyone who is the least bit interested in this theory.
 The Artful Codger
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Posted: 5/29/2008 3:38:57 AM
December 21, 2012 ?
I'll be in Winnipeg at a Rush concert.


Great audio if you're into the end of the world
 thatottguy
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Posted: 5/29/2008 7:25:46 AM
Dec 21, 2012 is the date when our sun will be crossing the galactic equator. As we approach this date more and more excess energy will be 'shed' from our sun in the form of charge particles (plasma). The massive energy being shed by the sun is being absorbed by the planets and is causing massive temperature changes throughout the solar system.

The idea that global warming is a result of the CO2 emissions from our vehicles is a scam created to collect more 'shadow profit' from the population in using guilt and fear. Unless they have a plan to stop the sun from moving through space towards the energy band at the galactic equator, they won't be able to stop global warming in the slightest.
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