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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 7:32:20 AM | Well, it would seem that the GOP is starting to lose strength, across the political landscape.
A day after losing another special election in a GOP stronghold, House Republicans pointed fingers at each other and at President Bush, saying that their “brand” has become an “albatross” and warning that their party faces “deep and serious problems” heading into the November elections.
What they didn’t say: how they might fix the crisis they now face.
House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) called Tuesday night’s special election loss in Mississippi a “wake-up call” for Republicans, but that’s what he said about the Republicans’ special election loss in Louisiana last week, too. Boehner said Republicans “have to do a better job” if they’re going to avoid an electoral bloodbath in November, but he also said he had “no preconceived ideas” about what that meant.
In a conference call with reporters Wednesday afternoon, Cole, who has been criticized for trying to “nationalize” local House races by tying Democratic candidates to Sen. Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, said that his party’s problems went “beyond campaign tactics.”
“A large segment of the American public doesn’t have confidence in the Republican Party to deal with the issues in front of us,” Cole said. “What we have to do is look in the mirror a bit and ask how we lost our way.”
After a closed-door session with members in the basement of the Capitol, Davis stomped his foot on the concrete beneath him and declared: “This is the floor — and we’re underneath it.”
In a scathing 20-page memo to his colleagues, Davis said that Republicans face their worst political environment since Watergate, one that is “far more toxic than the fall of 2006, when we lost 30 seats (and our majority).” He called special election losses in Illinois, Louisiana and Mississippi “canaries in the coal mine, warning of far greater losses in the fall, if steps are not taken to remedy the current climate.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10371.html
Are they, dare I say, running out of gas ?
They have money problems, too.
• The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is working to raise $40 million to help its Capitol Hill allies; the labor unions are vowing to spend $400 million this cycle.
• In 2006, candidates who captured open House seats spent an average of about $1 million for an easy win (more than 60 percent) and about $2.5 million for a relatively close one, according to the Campaign Finance Institute. House Republicans have $7 million in the bank to help defend 30 open seats this cycle, and not a single one can be considered easy after Tuesday’s Mississippi upset.
• Fundraising-challenged Senate Republicans have long relied on the Republican National Committee to bail out their candidates. This year, Arizona Sen. John McCain has already laid claim to all of the central committee’s cash to boost his financially strapped presidential campaign. There will be no help in the wings.
“This may prove to be one of the worst cycles for Republicans in modern history,” said Anthony Corrado, a nonpartisan campaign finance expert. “The landscape is against them, voter opinion is against them, and they don’t have major reasons for the party faithful to give, particularly given the prospects of Democratic gains in both the House and Senate.”
Of the top five best-financed independent groups, or 527s, that will run ads or conduct voter turnout operations in November, only one is run by Republicans. Of the total giving to those groups, 41 percent of the money comes from labor unions, 36 percent from individuals and just 2 percent from corporations.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10369.html
McCain's support is dropping, against BOTH Democratic candidates.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
McCain' s losing anywhere between 1-9 points, in EVERY recent poll listed.
The party may be in danger of losing 20 more seats....
For the past 18 months, ever since the 2006 elections, congressional Republicans have been like a hospital patient trying to convince visitors that he is not really all that sick: a bit under the weather; actually feel better than I sound; should be up and about any day; thanks for asking.
Suddenly — belatedly — all pretense is gone.
The Republican defeat in Tuesday’s special election in Mississippi, in a deeply conservative district where, in an average year, Democrats cannot even compete, was a clear sign that the GOP has the political equivalent of cancer that has spread throughout the body. Many House GOP operatives are privately predicting that the party could easily lose up to 20 seats this fall.
Combined with the 30 seats that the GOP lost in 2006, that would leave the party facing a 70-vote deficit against Democrats in the House — a state of powerlessness reminiscent of Republicans’ long wilderness years in the 1960s and ’70s.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10366.html
About 63 percent of the nation disapprove of Bush's job performance.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
About 80 % think the country's going in the wrong direction.
In the Generic Congressional Vote , the Democrats are leading by double digits.
So, we see a broad weakening across all fronts, at a critical time in American politics - with six months or so to go. Everywhere you look, the party is being dragged down by the weight of the legacy of the Bush years.
A big change, from the good old days, isn't it ? | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 7:35:51 AM | | haha. this happens every time one party has been in charge for too long. however, the libertarians are going to start producing serious candidates I think. hell, if we can have a socialist in the senate, why not a libertarian? | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 7:48:51 AM | Seems the libertarians are starting to swing :
Libertarian voters played a big role in swinging control of Congress to the Democrats in 2006. Could Mr. Obama hold them against Arizona Sen. John McCain? While base voters still voted along party lines in 2006, Republicans lost big among independents. According to an analysis that David Kirby and I did, libertarians may be the largest bloc of such independent-minded swing voters. Particularly in states with high concentrations of libertarians such as Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Montana, and New Hampshire, disaffected libertarians likely cost Republicans House and Senate seats.
David Boaz, executive vice president of the Cato Institute, is the author of The Politics of Freedom and co-author of "The Libertarian Vote." More by David Boaz
Recent polls suggest that 10 to 20 percent of Americans hold "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" or libertarian views. Indeed, libertarians are a bigger share of the electorate than the much-discussed "soccer moms," and they are increasingly a swing vote.
Libertarian voters have often given 70 percent or more of their votes to Republican candidates, including George W. Bush in 2000. But after six years of war, wiretapping and welfare-state social spending, libertarians gave barely half their votes to Republican candidates in 2006. The swing was even larger in Senate races. It seems clear that a lot of the centrist, moderate, and independent voters who swung to the Democrats in 2006 were libertarian leaners.
The presidential campaign this year has been bleak for libertarian voters, with full slates of big-government liberals and big-government conservatives.
Mr. McCain is also the leading supporter of the war in Iraq, which is unpopular with independent and libertarian voters. And he has a long record of hostility to the First Amendment, from campaign finance regulation to regulating blogs to banning flag desecration.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9364
Sounds like good news, for the Democrats. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 7:56:30 AM | I don't care what happens in the short term. this isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. if a democrat has to ruin the country for a couple more years as bush has done for 8, that's fine. I would love to have someone like bob barr in the debates. obama isn't a good debater. he doesn't think well on his feet, and he gets flustered when asked difficult questions. he is quite easily dismantled.
you also must understand that bob barr will have his share of democrat votes as well. socially liberal and fiscally conservative is a pretty popular platform. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 8:03:36 AM | A staunch Rebublican friend of mine (who gloated unmercifully over the outcome of the last two election psychles) was reduced to tears the other day when I (politely) asked him how he thought his voting record had borne out.
His emotion arose over the fact that during those years he had lost his job (union), had a wounded son come home to shoddy health care (now needlessly blind), had to sell the family house, can't afford his daughter's college tuition, his last running vehicle gets 10-12 miles to the gallon, etc.
His unemployment has run out long ago, & the new non-union part-time job does not cover basic family expenses. So he is now applying for further family assistance while continuing to look for a better job. He's so pissed at the Republican party for " letting that a$$.... president get away w/ screwing the working man!" that he's vowed to never vote GOP again. Moaning that it took extreme circumstances to get him to consider voting for 'The Welfare Party", while missing the irony that if not for assistance programs he would be living in much tighter circumstances than he currently is.
I asked him why he hadn't 'voted for his wallet' in the last two elections & his answer was "I didn't think I had to....I was doing well at the time." So I mentioned that the GOP was taking a beating too, in many areas.
"Lord knows I've had my chickens come home to roost, it sure doesn't bother me that they are too!"
And so the pendulum swings..... | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 8:06:44 AM | I'm a registered Republican, and I have no plans whatsoever to abandon the party -- but I do want to see the party return to its roots. What it's become is a travesty. The Republican Party should be the party of Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower (although Eisenhower deserves a slap on the wrist for meddling in Iran's affairs). Instead, it's become the party of Jerry Falwell and Kenneth Lay. George W. Bush has been exponentially more irresponsible with the country's budget than even Bill Clinton was, and he's used 9/11 as a convenient excuse to start power-tripping. Apparently neoconservatives hate the 10th Amendment (states' rights) just as much as liberals do, and they absolutely loathe the 4th, 8th and 9th Amendments (illegal search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment, and protection of unspecified rights, respectively).
Real Republicans uphold the U.S. Constitution. The current crop of neoconservatives wipe their collective ass with it. The real "RINO's" here -- Republicans In Name Only -- are the neoconservatives. It's time to flush them out of the party and get back to the ideals of Jefferson, Teddy and Ike. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 8:24:19 AM | Montrealguy the GOP is out of gas (and the price at the pump is too high to buy more right now) and they're stranded ..... in the desert in Iraq.
They can point their fingers at the one(s) who drove them (and everybody else) there in the first place, insisting it was only going to be a "three-hour tour"..... | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 8:32:13 AM | .
This guy in the fall will be as far away form Obama as the GOP Candidate.
When you demand the GOP Candidate issue a Statement condemning Rev. Wright?
...... Brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!
Travis Childers
Childers immediately rejected the notion that Obama had endorsed his candidacy, a sign that even some Democrats may be worried about being too closely associated to the frontrunner in the race for the Democratic nomination. "Sen. Obama hasn't endorsed my candidacy," Childers said after the ad began to air. "I have not been in contact with his campaign, nor has he been in contact with mine." The NRCC later said those comments "not only [said] a lot about himself, but also about the toxicity an Obama candidacy can bring to Democratic campaigns down-ballot." CNN
Cut Gas Taxes.... (PANDERING)
Demanding that the Republican, Davis needed to issue a Statement condemning Rev. Wright?
Against Gun Control...
PRO LIFE.....
Anti Gay Marriage
Anti Illegal
Sounds to me like a GOP Candidate won?????? ..................
NO COATTAILS for Obama.......... | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 8:39:27 AM | Well, try Republicans for Obama :
http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=homepage
Why I, A Lifelong Republican, Support Barack Obama February 4, 2008
Partisan politics don’t appeal to me. I don’t think I am alone. Proverbs 13:12a says that “Hope deferred makes the heart sick,” and I think there are a whole bunch of us out here tired of being heartsick. We want to hope again, believe that we can be more than we are, while also stopping along the way to lend a hand to the oppressed and the overlooked. We want to dream again, listen to a president whose words send chills down the backs of our legs, whose speeches make us cry and remember who we are. In the end, our country is not simply an intellectual exercise in democracy, but rather an enterprise in which we invest our hearts, souls and minds. It’s time to fall in love with America again, and we’re looking for someone to light the spark. Obama’s the one.
http://musingmom.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/ why-i-a-lifelong-republican-support-barack-obama/
Susan Eisenhower is more than just another disappointed Republican. She is also Ike's granddaughter and a dedicated member of the party who has urged her fellow Republicans in the past to stick with the GOP. But now Eisenhower, who runs an international consulting firm, is endorsing Barack Obama. She has no plans to officially leave the Republican Party. But in Eisenhower's view, Obama is the only candidate who can build a national consensus on the issues most important to her—energy, global warming, an aging population and America's standing in the world.
"Barack Obama will really be in a singular position to attract moderate Republicans," she told NEWSWEEK. "I wanted to do what many people did for my grandfather in 1952. He was hugely aided in his quest for the presidency by Democrats for Eisenhower. There's a long and fine tradition of crossover voters."
Eisenhower is one of a small but symbolically powerful group of what Obama recently called "Obamacans"—disaffected Republicans who have drifted away from their party just as Eisenhower Democrats did and, more recently, Reagan Democrats in the 1980s. They include lifelong Republican Tricia Moseley, a former staffer for the late Sen. Strom Thurmond, the one-time segregationist from South Carolina. Now a high-school teacher, Moseley says she was attracted to Obama's positions on education and the economy.
Former GOP congressman Joe Scarborough, who anchors MSNBC's "Morning Joe," says many conservative friends—including Bush officials and evangelical Christians—sent him enthusiastic e-mails after seeing Obama's post-election speeches in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. "He doesn't attack Republicans, he doesn't attack whites and he never seems to draw these dividing lines that Bill Clinton [does]," Scarborough told NEWSWEEK.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/107476
Introducing ......the Obamicans.  | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 9:02:07 AM | | you know why this isn't surprising? because republicans are liberals anyway. spending at least. I have my doubts as to this websites authenticity. it is based out of new york city, and that is liberal democrat land. no true conservative would support any of the top 3 candidates from the big parties. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 1:25:13 PM |
Introducing ......the Obamicans.
Tricia Nixon has also come out for Obama.
The Republican party has moved so far right that old school Republicans really have no place there anymore. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 1:35:32 PM |
The Republican party has moved so far right that old school Republicans really have no place there anymore.
this is true. the republican party is dead. real old school republicans have found a home in the libertarian party. wonder what old school democrats are going to do when the democrats move too far left. both of these parties are going down, and I can't wait. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 2:01:21 PM | And the "new" Republicans call the older type "paleo-conservatives" (some take this pejoratively). Which I guess means a conservative who's not interested in "spreading freedom and democracy" in the Middle East, who even perhaps (gasp) takes a more fair and balanced view on Israel, and is willing to consider that America's foreign policy is not really working out for the best. The current leaders and big shots in the GOP won't hear of any of this.
As for we Dems, yes we vary between where I would consider myself (basically more like a Social-Democrat) and others who are even slightly further left, to a "centrist" Democrat -- which is probably closer to Hillary. Likely neither party will completely fall apart IMO, in the near future at least. What will happen is you will see more true Independent candidates coming up, if not now then in future election seasons, as the 2 main parties wind up being occupied by (if not dominated by) perhaps more like Social-Democrats, and neo-conservative militarist-industrialist plutocrats, respectively.
I think it's a good development for non-"mainstream" candidates to eventually be taken seriously here (they just have to make it past the MainStreamMedia quarantine and virtual blackout , firstly). Personally I feel this country should have no more "electoral college" and should move towards something resembling a multiparty system at least , if not a parliamentary system. But for the time being we work with what we have. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 2:10:49 PM | | The Republican Party started running out of gas when McCain got the GOP. Lets face it McCain isn't a traditionalist Republican, he is more on the lines of a Liberal Conservative running in the Republican party, which is why he is still having problems getting traditionalist republicans to vote for him. Not to mention his mono tone voice, he doesn’t have that enthusiastic tone of voice to get people really fired up and rally around him like Obama does. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 2:14:45 PM |
Are they, dare I say, running out of gas ?
My perception is "no" they aren't running out of gas especially watching how fiesty the Repubs in Congress have been in regards to the shinannigans of the Democrats..so.. sorry Dems and Libs.. the Republicans are alive and well and anyone who watches CSPAN would see it. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 2:24:07 PM | .
Why didn't they have a couple of roll call votes?
From Deirdre Walsh CNN Congressional Producer WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republicans in the House of Representatives blocked a $163 billion war funding bill Thursday, dealing a surprising defeat to Democrats who had expected to pass the measure.
The vote was 141-149, with 132 voting "present" -- a way of registering dissatisfaction with the bill without having to go on record as having opposed funding the troops.
House Democrats are calling the Republican move a political stunt. The funding is expected to be restored when the Senate takes up the measure next week.
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 2:49:11 PM |
with 132 voting "present"
O.......M.......G !
( Lucky that Obama didn't do something like that, might have become the content for another e-mail. )
A Democratic aide said the House Democratic leadership had decided not to contest any Republican effort to derail the bill, leaving the GOP members of Congress to explain their positions. "They either voted to delay funding for the troops or voted against the war,the aide said. The vote was 141-149, with 132 voting "present" -- a way of registering dissatisfaction with the bill without having to go on record as having opposed funding the troops. House Democrats are calling the Republican move a political stunt.  A measure that would give veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan full four-year scholarships, dubbed a new G.I. Bill, also passed by a vote of 266-166, short of the two-thirds needed to override the promised veto by President Bush. The added benefits would cost $52 billion over 10 years and would be paid for by a 0.5 percent surtax on individuals making more than $500,000 a year and couples making more than $1 million. Calling the new tax a "patriot premium," Democrats argued that it was time for wealthy Americans to share in the sacrifice that troops are making in Iraq. Florida Republican Ginny Brown-Waite charged that the Democrats were playing politics with the troops and that the new tax would only damage the sluggish economy. But in the end, 32 Republicans voted with Democrats on the measure, passing it 256-166 -- short of a veto-proof majority, however. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/15/house.war.funding/index.html
Actually. when you look at the overall concept ?
Not a bad move to do, in this election year, and with some of the charges being made against Obama. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/15/2008 4:27:57 PM | | I'm sorry but the Democrats have been playing politics with the troops for a long time and I'm sure Bush will Veto the bill.. he really gets disgusted with the Democrats wasting time with his troop funding. | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/16/2008 2:02:45 AM | | Oh so continuing to fund an dead-end war with no end in sight that Bush started, shouldn’t cause the Dems or the 71% of American people that are fed up with this war to not be disgusted when billions and billions of tax dollars are being wasted? | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/16/2008 5:40:25 AM | Well, the best thing that can happen to the Republicans, is to NOT get control of the government in the near future. Let the Democrats have control of the mess that has been left....any failure to fix things will not be seen as a Republican failure, b/c people will forget a year from now, who got them here in the first place.
Even Karl Rove will launder himself, he already has by getting hired as a writer for either Time or Newsweek, can't remember which. Plame who? In a few years, the Republicans will be sold as the solution. ask Newt Gingrich, he has the experience and the results to show for it.
Hibernation is the best thing for them. they'll retreat to those right wing think tanks (you know, the ones that promote business and no government interference, while jumping thru gov't hoops to not have to be a business and make a profit) like they did the last time a Clinton was in office, and sell their brand of soap to clean away our problems....
Seriously. Come back to this post in a few years, see if I was wrong... | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/16/2008 9:04:43 AM | A breaking news headline, over at CNN :
Saudi Arabia has rejected a plea from President Bush to increase oil production, a top White House aide said today.
I guess all those years of close family ties with the Saudi royal family weren't really of much use, it seems  | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/16/2008 9:07:48 AM | | And all the coddling after 9/11 of important Saudis, getting flown back there right on that very day when nobody else could even fly here, the 29 still "redacted" pages from the 9/11 Commission Report (said to speak to the Saudi money trail to some of the hijackers), the (strangely forgotten about, by Bush) "hunt" for BinLaden , the hand-holding walks and talks, Bush donning Saudi garb and doing that little sword dance last time he was there, all for nought........... a shame.... | |
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| Is the Republican party running out of gas ? Posted: 5/16/2008 9:37:42 AM | And some follow up news on the Saudi decision today :
Rocketing fuel: Diesel fuel has been in tight supply for the last several months following a cold winter in the Northern Hemisphere, and as the popularity of diesel cars grows in Europe and the developing world.
With diesel prices outpacing gasoline, refiners in the United States have been ramping up production of diesel and sending it abroad. That has displaced some domestic gasoline production, helping push gas prices higher.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/16/markets/oil/index.htm?cnn=yes
American refineries sending fuel abroad ? That's an interesting little comment, isn't it ? So much for their loyalty to the American public.
I hope someone starts to look into the impact that's having on American fuel prices.
Oil rises as Saudi Arabia nixes Bush plea
The OPEC nation rejects calls from the President to increase production as oil reaches a new record near $128 a barrel.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Oil prices surged nearly $3, reaching a record high of almost $128 a barrel Friday as Saudi Arabia rejected President Bush's call to increase production.
According to the White House, Saudia Arabia doesn't see enough demand to increase production.
President Bush met with Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Friday as part of his Middle East tour to appeal for greater production to help quell crippling fuel prices.
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