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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 10:26:30 AM | I'm not sure it takes his desire to get froggy with Iran any farther than it already is. I still believe that the invasion of Iraq was to get all up in Iran's face more than anything else.
I think he believes what he said but also remember he was mostly giving a pep talk to The Knesset. It's going to be very slanted. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 10:39:13 AM | Fox news isn't all bad...I think they have more viewership than all the rest combined. The last number of years the credibility of NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC has be ruined by dishonest reporting, shoddy reporting, and ignoring facts on the left side of the political spectrum. The same holds for most large newspapers and other publications. The problem might be with the fact that FOX is willing to report on what some people don't want to hear or know and don't want others to hear or know either.
The extreme left is trying their best to censor FOX but it appears that that effort is falling apart as more and more people turn to FOX for their information and news. Most of those upset about FOX are generally not happy with uncensored information or don't really know what is actually going on. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 10:48:19 AM | I agree with nefarious' sentiments on Fox news.
I am a true ex MSNBC/CNN news junkie and have turned to Fox. It just seems more unbiased than the rest.
As for the Iran situation. I don't think Bush will do anything unless they get us on our own soil again. For anyone peering into the future that Bush will do whatever it takes to stay in office... I honestly do not think so. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 10:53:52 AM |
I rather not trust Fox News with any translation thank you very much. Can you show some credible sources with the translation.
So how many different place would you like to read the same story from ... Liberals
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gBMOJYFFlUOfdtpnIEeb-aLK5diAD90LEDAG0 ( Google, Associated Press )
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ahmadinejad_brands_Israel_stinking_corpse_0508.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/14/ap/middleeast/main4094975.shtml?source=search_story
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/929073.html
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342368,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-05-14-iran-israel_N.htm
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90LEDAG0&show_article=1
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/3F3A750B-EAC4-4CD1-9E70-672C59091B15/
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 11:34:23 AM |
Bob, do you mean no way the US starts a war with Iran in October?
If so, that's a scary thought to me. A speedboat we're told is Iranian crashes into a tanker or US warship and it escalates from there? How would America vote in November then?
Iran has a anti-ship missile that is unreal... very hi-tech. They could take out about anything....
Remember the speed boats with the dubbed in voice....
I am afraid this will be the McCain Oct surprise.... OR
God forbid the "Real Bush Third term".... | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 11:37:45 AM | HAHA funny funny funny...
take a look at each of those news articles... read carefully..
IN NO WAY did Ahmadinejad threaten Israel. IN NO WAY did he say that he will be an aggressor..attack nor destroy Israel. Of course thats what your preciouis Fox news wants you to believe by taking a word and saying the word "ismihlal" that can ALSO can be translated as destruction, death and collapse. Yet he didn't use it in any context that he would bring about such a thing.. ( i hear the war drum beating) he said that they are bringing upon it themselves.
But thats your credible news source..report and skew for their agenda. They choose what to report and how to report it and how it is said. Hmmmm... sounds like the same thing 5 years ago right?
Read each article as they each point out various quotes that he said. He is pissed at the way Israel has been handling affairs with Palestine. You can clearly see the feud here between Israel and Palestine and Israel has the U.S behind them and Palestinian people and Arabs have Iran's support. For me I would be pissed to, here you have an ***hole of a president who attends this big party for Israels founding, but yet he turns a blind eye and snuffs out the Palestinian people who were run out of their homes and now held under Israel's thumb.
Now its no argument that he has hatred to Israel. You ready to start a war or be diplomatic and spare the lives of thousands. But thats JUST IT. Israel does not want to cooperate! They are waiting for U.S to attach IRAN for them! Its not enough that the U.S sends billions of dollars in aid and military.
don't be a sheep.. ba ba ba.. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 11:52:52 AM |
Iran has a anti-ship missile that is unreal... very hi-tech. They could take out about anything....
One acronym, CIWS (pronounce it sea whiz)
We're not to worried about anything Iran has right now. It's what they are trying to get.
A country that has made the remarks they have, and has backed terrorists, absolutely can NOT be allowed to have nukes. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 12:09:46 PM | no russian subs surfaced next to american carriers. it was a CHINESE sub that did that. Our lovely president clinton sold all our taxpayer bot, american ingenuity and labor built, american lives lost tested, top secret triple classified stuff to the red chinese for money for the second election. thats what the buddist scandal was all about, the scientist in new mexico took the fall for..you think red china has a ready-to-go space program now just by coincidence?...you are alive today because red china is letting you be....they were sold the capability to icbm either coast by that scoundrel..... here clinton is out making speeches and collecting money and votes when he should be speaking to his fellow inmates in attica pleading w "bubba" not to make him into a girl, for the treasonous acts he's committed. set dramatic new lows for a president. and his wife has the GALL to run for the presidency. if she had an ounce of decency she would be hiding on an estate in france somewhere for all the criminal acts those two have committed against america. but you know, she believes in barnum's old adage...."there's a sucker born every minute." i'd personally feel safer, and expect more justice and honor if i was governed by their fellow arkansas clansmen ma barker, the barker gang, and alvin karpus. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 12:27:51 PM | Not real sure where you learned history or get the News the way you like it, but to point out a few things you may not be clear on .....
Read each article as they each point out various quotes that he said. He is pissed at the way Israel has been handling affairs with Palestine. You can clearly see the feud here between Israel and Palestine and Israel has the U.S behind them and Palestinian people and Arabs have Iran's support.
There is not a lot of Love towards Iran in the middle east either. .... In regard to the Anapolis summit "The Saudis came to Annapolis after much deliberation, as Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said. They showed up not because they love us, (Israel) but because they hate the Iranians more.
For me I would be pissed to, here you have an ***hole of a president who attends this big party for Israels founding, but yet he turns a blind eye and snuffs out the Palestinian people who were run out of their homes and now held under Israel's thumb.
And before you buy into the revisionist Palestinians/Israel history
"The vexing question of the "Palestinian Refugees" is one of the perennial open sores of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs. The Palestinians left their homes in 1947-48 for a variety of reasons. Thousands of wealthy Arabs left in anticipation of a war, thousands more responded to Arab leaders' calls to get out of the way of the advancing armies, a handful were expelled, but most simply fled to avoid being caught in the cross fire of a battle. Tragically, had the Arabs accepted the 1947 UN resolution, not a single Palestinian would have become a refugee and an independent Arab state would now exist beside Israel."
So before you buy into the whole 'Oh the poor Palestinians' poor Arabs, mis-understood Hamas, Hero Hezbolla crap do some real research and don't just swallow the kool-aide the Arabs have been offering since 1949 after getting their butts kicked.
http://palestinefacts.org/pf_independence_refugees_arabs_why.php
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 12:40:03 PM | Most of the experts just don't see a real democracy in Iraq, Bush seems to believe it, if he can be believed ...but its a codependant client state and that big embassy and 14 enduring bases tells you we plan to occupy it.
Most of the experts view a unilateral Iraq-like attack on Iran as a disaster, even just to go in, strike at sites, etc. I cannot imagine what the price of gasoline would cost after that ...
Some of what Bush said is right ....about the terrorism, that it's criminal and not Islamic, and democracy is a better way.... but the line is drawn in the sand now about Israel, it's a 51st state ... no peace will come of this speech, but then ....I don't think this administration wants peace at all.
911 has been so very good to so very many people. 18 guys walked into the United States and blew up some major buildings, put us on a diversion path that has obsessed us for 7 years, cost many trillions, changed our way of life, 18 guys with boxcutters against the biggest armed camp in the world with a $600 billion annual "defense" budget with its pants completely down, not a defense in sight, and no heads rolled after it, no general was fired, no job was lost, nobody took any responsibility..... and so many people, the least of which were the very defense industries that were supposed to protect us and failed....perversely, everyone that failed us makes our BIG TIME from 911. big time!
Do you think these people want an end to this gravy train? Uh-uh.  | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 12:42:31 PM | Feeltobefree gets it. If one actually reads what Ahmadinejad said, one will see that he is saying that the demise of Israel and the US is part of God's plan. Not that Iran will be directly doing it. The Soviet Union collapsed without direct warfare with us, remember? Ahmadinejad isn't the one who calls the shots in Iran anyway. Did you also believe him when he said there weren't any homosexuals in Iran?
Iran will allow themselves to be inspected for nukes if Israel also agrees to be inspected. Take a big guess who won't allow the UN to do that? Even though it knows a nuclear power has its back? | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 12:45:45 PM | so steven, leave the country, and live in a nice place like red china or russia. you will like it there, with leaders who are truthful, govern exactly as the majority wish, and offer peace and prosperity to everyone! everyone has a chance to make good under communism! plus, all the freedom you want to express your ideas without fear of any retribution whatsover from any source. your rights are all protected and guaranteed, of course. bon voyage!
in your new life, you wont have to worry about how others are profiting from evil deeds of strangers. no, you will be busy trying to stay alive day to day, out with the other beggars in the streets of moscow or beijing. you think you will enjoy chewing starfish or monkey with wooden teeth? ha ha ha | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 12:52:13 PM | If the translation came from MEMRI, you can be assured it was bogus. However in reading most of the links what seems to be going on is the devil is in the details...the headlines are going for shock factor and saying "ISRAEL DOOMED" while in the fine print, they repeat what is likely the actual translation where as in some of his earlier quotes, Ahmadinejad says the "Zionist regime that occupies the land of Palestine is doomed"
For some people that is the same thing. He has said in interviews of course that he has no intention of making war of any kind against Israel.
This plays directly into the hands of the Neo-Conservatives who have already laid out their plan to attack Iran years ago in the document "Plan For A New American Century," their manifesto, where military bases in a tamed Iraq are essentially a launching point to secure any oil rich states to provide for America's resource future. To be shocked by an attempted war in Iran by the Bush government would be like being shocked by the final solution by not having read Mein Kampf. It's all there in black and white what the Neo-Conservatives want to do.
The US government began this plan decades ago by overthrowing the first democratically elected government in Iran and installing the unpopular Shah. He was overthrown in a peoples revolution which led to the Ayatollah Khomeni being put in power and its been downhill ever since. That led to Rummy and Saddam (our man in Iraq) and the famous handshaking...and well you know the rest... | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 2:00:45 PM | Ya, Trapper John, heard the old "love it or leave it" bit a long time ago .... that was back at the tail end of Viet Nam which, I assume, you probably believe was short another 5 years and 50,000 bodies.
I take exception to the fact that we spend $600 billion a year on "defense" and there was no defense on 911. We are supposed to get something for that money, there were warnings ....but no quite knew what to do.
I take exception to the fact that no heads rolled, no one was fired over it, not a single person. No one was held accountable, certainly not our dear government.
I take exception to the fact that the very people, the politicians, the war mongers, the defense department, the whole kit and kaboodle who FAILED to protect us, who were NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE, and who are now benefitting BIG TIME with an orgy of defense spending.
And I take offense at the saber-rattling Bush is doing, particularly when I get the bad feeling that while we are posturing over world conquest, pretty much anyone with half a brain could walk into the US of A and wreak havoc...even still. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 2:17:46 PM | | Not sure if Bush would actually use more than a firm hand on Iran.. seems that's all any politician claims to do we should do.. just what exactly a "firm hand" is I have no idea it reminds me of spanking a child.. Perhaps Senator Clinton would use more than a "firm hand".. or so I've heard. | |
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| Is President Bush determined to start a war with Iran before he leaves office? Posted: 5/15/2008 3:56:40 PM | This place gets scarier everyday I come in here ? Some of you people are actually entertaining the idea that bush has a right to attack anyone for any reason after you know that he destroyed Iraq for no reason. You must be so badly corrupted by your government now that it's becoming like some sick stepford wives scenario. Of course he's going to destroy Iran , what else would a good Nazi dictator do ? | |
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