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Posted: 5/16/2008 4:23:54 AM | | Voting options don't appear when I click the mod threads link. Why is that? | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 5:45:37 AM |
Voting options don't appear when I click the mod threads link
You only get the option, if available, once you are actually in the thread.
Clicking on the Mod Thread link, as you say, simply shows you the thread list.
As an FYI
Not all threads will have the feature, due to the forum that they are in.
Not all users will have the ability to vote.
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Posted: 5/16/2008 6:54:13 AM | Ya, I menat when I actually click on the threads themselves.
I used to get the voting option, but it hasn't come up for a week or so now. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 9:16:20 AM | Speaking of mod threads, what and who makes a thread go on that list...the Moderators themselves? How does it work? Just curious... and I didn't see any reference to it in the FAQ. And yes, I will hang my head in absolute shame if it is indeed in there.
Thank you. 
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Posted: 5/16/2008 10:27:53 AM | who makes a thread go on that list...the Moderators themselves?
sadly no - as I'd have both entire Ask a Gal/Guy forums to be put up for extermination.
It's all automatic, soon as the thread gets a vote, it appears under that link give or take some time lag - and no, I don't think that question has been answered.
I used to get the voting option, but it hasn't come up for a week or so now.
You've been relieved of that duty for the time being for reasons that would be simply stated as incorrect usage of that feature.
If you want to have that ability back, the first step would be to demonstrate your ability of knowing what's good from bad by using the Admin: Report Forum Infractions Here thread in this forum.
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Posted: 5/17/2008 6:13:20 AM | ^^^^Translated
Running a foul of one of the many POF cliques...lol. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2008 8:49:08 AM | Whether there are gangs of cliques posting or not - no one is above the rules.
(maybe Admin - we haven't tested suspending him yet)
As mentioned above, you know what you have to do, whether or not you wish to, to regain your abilities.
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Posted: 6/10/2008 4:21:28 AM |
You've been relieved of that duty for the time being for reasons that would be simply stated as incorrect usage of that feature.
This is something that I do not completely understand (although i understand what is being said).
In regards to "Mod Threads" if there is a vote going on, I personally will look at it, and if i believe it should be voted out, i would vote delete, if i believe that the vote was stupidly started (no need for it) i would vote it stay.. if was was unsure (or could not decide) I would not participate in a vote.
What I do not understand is how someone can lose the right to vote (even initiate one, which is what I see the feature is there for) knowing that 1 person can not make a thread disappear.
Yes i know that some people vote without thought, however without the backing of others, this should not cause harm.
I was relieved from my right to vote (as i see it, due to the feature not being there) and yes i initiate redundant and off topic votes when needed, and yes i participate in the "mod threads" section to help save stupid votes from passing though, and to help those who blatantly go against forum rules get their threads deleted (with research, not just though an opinion or guessing process) .
I am not having a go at admin, and do not care too much about not being able to vote.. however am confused how such a privilege can be taken away from someone without reason (ie. if i was told not to vote too much etc i could learn from that, whereas i can not learn without reason) and again can not see why such a privilege can be taken away in respect the the fact that 1 vote alone does not delete or keep a thread.
And yes i read above regarding the ADMIN: Forum Rule Violations Report Thread and use to participate in it, however due to admin not being on 24/7 found it easier to just submit (or initiate) a vote in the meantime (which is what i am assuming the function is there for).. I do not believe I have abused this feature.. even though I did vote from the "mod threads" every day (unless i could not decide)... but hey without reason, how can i learn from what might be seen as abuse. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 6:11:12 AM | What I do not understand is how someone can lose the right to vote (even initiate one, which is what I see the feature is there for) knowing that 1 person can not make a thread disappear.
Ever hear of herd mentality jumping on the bandwagon, without thought?
Trust us - it won't be just the initiator of the delete process - each and every person who is caught outright maliciously voting to delete a thread that is blatantly valid will be relieved of that right for an undetermined time period. Sometimes it may not be obvious and we allow for that, but if it's outright obvious, then it's lights out.
I am not having a go at admin, and do not care too much about not being able to vote.. however am confused how such a privilege can be taken away from someone without reason (ie. if i was told not to vote too much etc i could learn from that, whereas i can not learn without reason) and again can not see why such a privilege can be taken away in respect the the fact that 1 vote alone does not delete or keep a thread.
It has nothing to do with 1 vote, or voting too much, or less - but more so as I explained above.
And yes i read above regarding the ADMIN: Forum Rule Violations Report Thread and use to participate in it, however due to admin not being on 24/7
for starters, the real Admin doesn't monitor it, the Mods do - and no, we're not on it 24/7 as we too require sleep and bodily function breaks - hence why the feature was introduced, but that doesn't preclude you from participating in it, as that may be an avenue of restoring your right to have the feature re-instated.
how can i learn from what might be seen as abuse.
familiarize yourself with the rules, if you're unsure of how to vote - don't, and simply report it via the Admin thread and we'll action it if necessary. If the report isn't valid, there will usually be a Mod note indicating why it wasn't valid.
Hope that helps ..
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Posted: 6/16/2008 6:47:53 PM | What I do not understand is how someone can lose the right to vote?
Does it really bother you? I do not care to vote. we dont need to anyway the mod delets the threads anyway. we dont have to vote on it. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 7:04:03 PM | What I do not understand is how someone can lose the right to vote?
Someone who votes to delete perfectly valid, non-redundant Threads, votes to keep Chat & Troll Threads going, etc. Its the Fact that these Votes run Contrary to what a Forum is and was designed to be.
we dont need to anyway the mod deletes the threads anyway.
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Posted: 6/16/2008 7:06:48 PM | I do not care to vote. we dont need to anyway the mod delets the threads anyway. we dont have to vote on it.
well , the community can now rest at ease that your votes aren't further contaminating the vote system seeing as you have little clue of the posting rules to begin with from your prior history.
If per strong chance you're complaining as to why your threads have been deleted, perhaps a refresher on the forum rules is in order with respect to monopolizing threads, creating done to death threads, chatting and so forth.
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Posted: 6/16/2008 7:19:50 PM | however it makes no snese to me, i do not care why the thread was deleted. I dont see where what u siad above fit my thread but ok. its fine that it was deleted. I got my answers anyway so im happy. i think im gonna pass on the refresher course becuase the rules are so easy to break that most poeple break them without even knowing it.
as to my vote no longer contaminating the voting system or whatever...they never were to begin with. I dont vote. I think i voted one time in the two yrs i have been at this dating site. so im not a voter and thats by choice.... my choice. so if my voting priviledges have been took away, I would have never knew it. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 9:01:51 PM | ahh, kitten, i've read your post history.
to quote you:
I agree with some of the posters I have seen threads be delted for no reason. its almsot like u have to go to ur email and discuss it that way. this is a forum for discussion, only ur not allowed to discuss things for long anyway. I dont know what to make of it except to expect your thread to be deleted. kinda like when going to a casino expect to lose lol.so say what u got to say before it happens. I read the rules and the rules do not apply to some of the deleted threads. if u ask me there are too many rules for this to be a forum. I think only mean peole who are outright attacting someone is the only threads that should be deleted. otherwise there is jsut no real reason to delete them. maybe he deletes the threads from users he dont like. I dont know. but i do know alot of times it makes no sense to me.
first, threads are always deleted for a reason. i suggest you familiarize yourself with the posting rules.
second, threads are for germane postings on the topic. not for your musings on questionably related issues. such things are perceived as "off-topic". and deleted, for same.
finally, if you think the rules here are too draconian, well, there is a simple solution - - stop posting.
i certainly hope you do so. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 9:04:45 PM |
I was relieved from my right to vote (as i see it, due to the feature not being there) and yes i initiate redundant and off topic votes when needed, and yes i participate in the "mod threads" section to help save stupid votes from passing though, and to help those who blatantly go against forum rules get their threads deleted (with research, not just though an opinion or guessing process) .
I am not having a go at admin, and do not care too much about not being able to vote.. however am confused how such a privilege can be taken away from someone without reason (ie. if i was told not to vote too much etc i could learn from that, whereas i can not learn without reason) and again can not see why such a privilege can be taken away in respect the the fact that 1 vote alone does not delete or keep a thread.
And yes i read above regarding the ADMIN: Forum Rule Violations Report Thread and use to participate in it, however due to admin not being on 24/7 found it easier to just submit (or initiate) a vote in the meantime (which is what i am assuming the function is there for).. I do not believe I have abused this feature.. even though I did vote from the "mod threads" every day (unless i could not decide)... but hey without reason, how can i learn from what might be seen as abuse.
subboy - Your ability to vote was taken away with reason...however due to oversight on my part an email was not immediately sent to inform you of why. Your voting patterns indicated to me a pattern of abusing the "vote to delete" function to simply vote off subject matter that was perfectly valid, but that based on threads you had discussed in, in the past, was contrary to your expressed point of view.
The use of the "vote to delete" is not to censor other users point of view in a partisan fashion but as a community tool to get rid of threads that don't meet the minimum requirements of topic validity for PoF.
In my opinion as a moderator, you abused your privilege to have that vote and so I suspended it. I did not however inform you how to reclaim it and in that I erred. An oversight for which I apologize.
If you wish to make amends it would require a written apology and affirmation that you are aware of the correct use of the function of the "vote to delete" option and your word not to misuse it again - keeping in mind that we can observe its use in action. If this would satisfy the other moderators it would satisfy me.
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Posted: 6/16/2008 9:20:40 PM | | I have read some of the rules. but thats not the problem. there as so many rules that its impossible to not break a rule (without even meaning to.) look at the moderator tongiht that took away my voting rights. I dont even vote. lol so i mean that was done out of him trying to be hateful. if it was not out of trying to be hateful,why would a mod stop someone from voting that does not vote in the first place? what was the reason for him to do that? I mean i dont vote at all ..never wanted to. Is what he done right in some way?its not that i care its that im trying to make a point that not all things are done for a reason ..that mod is proof of that. thats why im using him as example. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 9:40:20 PM |
I have read some of the rules.
Apparently not nearly enough of them because if you had you would see that the rest of your post, which technically I should just delete and give you a forum suspension for is a moderator protest. When a moderator rules on you breaking a rule you don't "whine" about it in an open forum. You take it to email and be polite about it. What happens when you break a rule in a baseball game and then get in the umpire's face?
That's right you get tossed. Same thing here.
but thats not the problem. there as so many rules that its impossible to not break a rule (without even meaning to.) look at the moderator tongiht that took away my voting rights. I dont even vote. lol so i mean that was done out of him trying to be hateful.
The majority of the posters to the forums get by just fine. This is a common complaint of the rule breakers and is patently false. If it were true, I wouldn't be able to work my day job, eat or sleep because I would have to mod 24/7 and send a bill to BigFish as would every other mod. Only a small fraction of the users here step outside the rules which are clearly posted and not hard to follow.
And accusing forum moderators of acting with bias is not a way to endear yourself to them either. It tends to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for most people that do it.
if it was not out of trying to be hateful,why would a mod stop someone from voting that does not vote in the first place? what was the reason for him to do that? I mean i dont vote at all ..never wanted to. Is what he done right in some way?its not that i care its that im trying to make a point that not all things are done for a reason ..that mod is proof of that. thats why im using him as example.
It's taken away based on the moderator observing other collective examples of behaviour that shows that the poster in question is not a responsible member of the PoF community and doesn't need or deserve the privilege to "vote to delete" posts - a privilege which HAS to be based on a thorough knowledge of the rules, not just their whims. I'd say that has been more than confirmed and an observant moderator did their job to the tee. And any further protest posts to the effect of above and I will have to forget that trapped is handling your penalty. I'll ask you at this point politely to cease and desist.
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