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 Brizguy_2007

Joined: 6/24/2007
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Posted: 5/16/2008 11:13:07 PM
I was fortunate enough today to have an ederly gentleman assist me with some finer points of pistol shooting, and it got me wondering how often we listen to elderly people and take advice, or do we ignore them thinking their advice is irrelevant now.
This guy was an old copper, who "back in the day" has had many a running battle with the criminals of this world. As he said, when he was learning, the targets always shot back and mostly with a shotgun. It's important to make every shot count. Obviously we are shooting targets, but he said the same principles apply.
With some small pointers on stance, how you hold your thumbs, how to wrap your forefinger around the trigger guard etc, he got me from shooting relatively well, to shooting 40 shots into the 7.5cm bullseye without a single miss. And that was with a club gun(semi-automatic) using high velocity bullets. He said if I use those techniques with the Browning I bought, using the correct ammo, it will be an even better grouping.
I was amazed at the difference after having him "tutor" us.....

He did say women tend to shoot better because they naturally have a better stance, and I must admit the women shooters I've seen do shoot very well on average.

So how do you take advice from older people...Do you treat them with contempt, or irrelevance, or do you soak up the information they have to pass on????
I'm glad we were all ears today!!!!
 dimeadozen

Joined: 1/26/2008
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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:41:21 AM
My mum died a few years ago and I've found there's a few older ladies that have been helpful to me lately in answering things that only someone thats been there could know. Like hanging in there with your teenagers for instance. They've been there, done that and seen the outcome. Not everyone gets wiser as they get older but many do.

I dont think you're old enough to qualify as elderly notwilted!!
 soulmate08

Joined: 12/30/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 12:52:31 AM
well weve talked about this brizguy... i have always listened to older people..
my best friends have usually been in their 60s ..70s...
problem is...... all my best friends keep dying on me...
my spiritual mentor..... was amazing ..... taking his collective/knowledge ..... and conversing... well hes been dead for quite a few years... but im still learning from input he gave me..... love ya lex.. ya legend....(and wish i had your book s.... awesome knoweledge there)
love ya chinny ya legend...
love ya nan..... and nan you were right..... in relo advice....
and on this site about the only guy ive met...... i click with..... as in connect...... is older and in uk..... and teaches me heaps... love ya jim ya legend....my new best friend...

not all old people have wisdom.....but still learn from them

on what not to do...
smiles/peace
 evolving62

Joined: 12/29/2007
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Posted: 5/17/2008 1:28:17 AM
Absolutely will listen to what the oldies have to say. There aint nothing like experience to learn from.
 Brizguy_2007

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Posted: 5/17/2008 7:53:56 PM
Yeah it's not mandatory, but as i told this guy, if he was telling me stuff and I got worse, I wouldn't have listened, but every time he showed us something we got better. He looked for our faults and corrected them.
He said a lot of the others will tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he doesn't care, but his advice worked for us.

One thing I wish I had done was recorded all the stories my Gran use to tell us when we were young.
 caramel1812

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Posted: 5/18/2008 12:30:59 AM
I am a nurse and work with and care for the 'aged' people regularly. Some of the people that I have met have been absolutely wonderful, from the CVA women who taught me how to crochet a particularly pretty piece, to the crotchety, rude and just plain old nasty old bloke who had tears in hes eyes when the staff sang him a happy birthday.

I worked with a 60 something woman a while ago, what a testimonial to aging! the woman was /is like a walking computer-ask her anything at all, she usually knows something about it-- oops sorry asked her 1 question in 4 years that she had to research,,, incredible!

Then there was the 'old bloke' who gave me some fishing tips a few days ago, tried what he suggested, viola!!! worked a treat.

Everywhere it is the same,, be it different religions, race, creed or whatever, good and bad in everyone, young or old!
Three cheers for the older generations, they deserve it!
 monarogto

Joined: 5/2/2008
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Posted: 5/18/2008 4:36:49 AM
Hmmm I think it might pay to listen to older people sometimes cos ummm.... one day we are going to be those older people....lol



cheerz all be safe and be well
 Sid Valleyview

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Posted: 5/18/2008 5:14:25 AM
It's hard not to take notice of people who carry 9mm Brownings no matter what age they are. But helpful advice from the oldies is priceless. Notice I said "helpful"..
 soulmate08

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Posted: 5/18/2008 5:19:52 AM

It's hard not to take notice of people who carry 9mm Brownings no matter what age they are


the boy has wit i tell ya... love it...
smiles/peace
 whitegold765

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Posted: 5/18/2008 5:20:17 AM
My nana had a funny experience a few years back when she went into a butchers to buy some meat. She asked for 7 kilos of sausages, and the kindly but rather patronising butcher said "Now deary, that's a lot of sausages. You sure you don't mean pounds?" She just looked back at him and rolled her eyes and said "I'm cooking for 58 people."

"Oh. Right. I'll go get your sausages."

I took a taxi ride once and got talking to the cabbie (cabbies rock) and he was talking about when he was younger and saw a man come to his home town and speak. He was from Poland and the man was Adolf Hitler. There can't be many people left who have had that sort of experience. Evil or not you can't really dispute the historical significance.
 LiveAndLoveWell

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Posted: 5/18/2008 5:21:52 AM
I respect and listen to the elderly. They have lived much longer and experienced so much, good and bad, and I think I can learn and benefit by hearing their stories. It makes me realise that I too will be old one day and hopefully will have their wisdom and peace. It also makes me think of my grandparents, who are no longer with me anymore.
 Brizguy_2007

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Posted: 5/18/2008 2:51:11 PM

It's hard not to take notice of people who carry 9mm Brownings no matter what age they are.

Actually he had a Smith and Wesson 357 magnum.....so some respect was due I guess....LOL

WG....That would be very interesting to hear the cabbie tell of that story. You're spot on when you say that those experiences are disappearing....That's why I wish I'd recorded my grans tales.....Each generation loses more and more as we go.
Having said that, I guess we have tales to tell that the younger generation will think amazing, yet we will think of it as just something that was.
 bewitched66

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Posted: 5/18/2008 3:18:48 PM
Older people have wonderful stories....but advice is the same no matter where it comes from.

Listen to it, take on board what works for you, and leave the rest behind. My Dad told me this....and meant it, except for his advice, which must always be listened to and acted upon! (He's not elderly tho - well, maybe. He's about 65. My advice would be not to tell him he's old.)
 Pookiespal

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Posted: 5/18/2008 7:24:52 PM
My mom is 82 and has dementia...some days shes great, others shes not...and its sad to watch, but even now as this inspid disease ravages her brain, she will still come out with drop dead words of wisdom and advice...so apt for the situation I would be telling her about. The best bit of advice she has ever given me...and shes given me a lot but this is on e I do hang on and TRY to act on............."When your not sure what to say or do, do nothing..." I have found when I do try to adher to this, it usually resolves it self..instead of my usual rush in.. and the words that comfort me the most at the mo..and she has said this to me in the pass few weeks...

"This too will pass"

and it does
 AbbieF

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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:03:03 AM
Oldies but goodies - I'll listen to anyone. Acting on their advice is another story. Older people are great tho. And I revell when my teeager say 'why are you always right Mum' learnt something heheheheheh
 saltytowers

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Posted: 5/20/2008 9:15:58 AM
Hmmmm
Mixed feelings

The best advice I EVER heard was this

"The person trying to give you advice,is really advising you how to be just like them. Therefore look carefully at WHO is giving the advice, and if you want to go where they are already at."

I took it on board. It made sense. And so I dont think age has a lot of bearing on it. I would say perhaps experience does...or lack thereof.

If you want to know how to catch a fish....ask a great fisherman
If you want to know how to live to be eighty? Ask an eighty year old.

Re the OP: The guy had a lot of knowledge about guns. Other old folk dont.
And that includes me (hey almost 50 qualifies)

One almost 80 year old astrophysicist REALLY fired me up!
Why? It was his lifes work...but he was PASSIONATE about it!
And also had a squazillion years experience 'sharing that passion'

Yup. Worked for me.

cheers
 ~~gee~~

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Posted: 5/20/2008 4:38:23 PM
the only thing with regards to advice from the elderly, is that times have changed so much, technology has changed so much, thoughts have changed, ideals have changed, life has changed - so sadly some of that advice is not relevant or can even be related to current circumstances.

but one thing i hope never changes and that is respect for the elderly!
 mylilla

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Posted: 5/20/2008 11:23:51 PM
I agree - there's a lot to be learnt from the oldies.
I've worked with them a lot and some have the most amazing stories - you'd never think it to look at them!

And yes, times have changed so their advice may not be that relevant, but to be honest, how much advice from people is truly relevant? We take what we feel to be of value, and ignore the rest, regardless of the age of the 'adviser'.

I think the elderly deserve respect and, more importantly, our time.
Too many young people just couldn't be bothered to listen to them, get impatient with their slowness or even think they don't have a right to be here!
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