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 denimpeanut

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Shorter men: Thought about dancing??
Posted: 5/18/2008 8:35:08 PM
One of the recurring (done to death) topics on these forums is the lament of the shorter man - how he can't get any dates, or even responses to his ad. Well, maybe they should learn to dance!

I was out at a club last night. The genre of music was mostly Latin. Most of the men at the club were under 5'7", many were like 5'4", and they had dance partners. And they way they were dancing suggested they knew these women fairly well, if you get my drift. There was a lot of touching.

In some cases, the woman was taller, in some cases, she was not.

One guy might have been considered a nerd, by some. His slim body, short stature and retro look. With his horned rimmed, black glasses, puffy [white man's] afro, and protruding nose, he didn't seem the suave type. He reminded me of Horshack on "Welcome Back Kotter," or Woody Allen even. Until he started dancing! He was superb, spinning his woman and moving his hips like a professional. It was really a treat to watch.

It made me wonder if shorter men have considered taking up dancing, even taking dancing lessons if need be. Since most men don't like to dance and women often want this, it could provide an edge over other (taller or not) men.
 abelian

Joined: 1/12/2008
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Shorter men: Thought about dancing??
Posted: 5/18/2008 10:05:58 PM

One of the recurring (done to death) topics on these forums is the lament of the shorter man - how he can't get any dates, or even responses to his ad. Well, maybe they should learn to dance!


I'm only 5'9" tall and I'd rather be even shorter than go dancing.
 BamaBob

Joined: 11/12/2007
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Posted: 5/18/2008 10:23:56 PM
Just so happens that my date asked me to take her to a dance last night. It was the first time I had been dancing in many many years. It was mostly 60's-80's music and some country. I was late getting there so didn't get in on the line dancing lessons and truly regretted it. This was small town Alabama type entertainment and almost all the people there were 40-60 years old....and yes, there were a few black people there too... Part of the time they had "ladies choice" mixers with slow dancing where every minute or two the DJ would blow a whistle and the women would choose a different partner. This was fantastic to get to meet people and not have to really ask them to dance. It overcome huge amounts of shyness. Everyone there got to dance! (Yep, and every woman I slow danced with had her breast right up against me)...and there were plenty of short guys there...The very short conversations revealed LOTS about women I danced with and could really feel the ones who were warm and interested. I'm extremely shy when it comes to dancing but you bet you azz that I'll be hunting more of these types of outings. It definitely is a far better way to meet and get to know women than the old tried and true failures of bars and night clubs. These dances I've found are organized by singles groups and very much associated with churches and there is no alcohol or smoking allowed. The rules keep out the kids and most of the foolish.... I'll definitely be dancing in the future!
 WesternRose

Joined: 1/14/2008
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Posted: 5/18/2008 10:49:31 PM
I find it damn awkward for me.
When I go out ...for instance to a dance or a formal... where I would wear heels I find myself at 5' 10'' tall...and when dancing up close with a shorter man I feel uncomfortable...his arms down about my butt level...and his head in my cleavage.

Just a comfort level thing for me...and I don't always wear my heels. I prefer flats..but still that makes me @5' 7" .... so.. sorry guys.
 elizabethnotliz

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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:15:05 AM
what I don't understand is why shorter men just don't date shorter women. There is plenty of both. Why lament?

It is a primal thing for me (just like men like women to be attractive) to want a man who is bigger and taller than me..I am not a 'dominant' personality...I don't want to feel like an amazon who is going to crush their man...color me superficial on that aspect I guess...I am not attracted to men who are shorter than myself. ...not short men...but just men shorter THAN myself.

I think its FANTASTIC when a woman DOESN'T care about such things...unfortunately I can't help my preferences...they just are what they are I have very few but that is one of them.

If a man wants to date someone taller...great...advertise that because I am sure there are women who dig it. Go for it!
 carlisleman

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Posted: 5/19/2008 8:05:45 AM


what I don't understand is why shorter men just don't date shorter women.


But quite often the shorter the woman the bigger man she wants !!!

I think a short woman and a tall man look ridiculous together.
 4dutyandhumanity

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Posted: 5/19/2008 8:20:39 AM

I'm only 5'9" tall and I'd rather be even shorter than go dancing.


Here's a thread topic: Meeting women: worth learning to dance?

No. And I speak from experience.
 Thebestbeancounter

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Posted: 5/19/2008 8:48:25 AM
I'm actually a very good dancer already, but the only time I ever dance is at weddings because I left the club scenes when I was 21.
 MissNYWF

Joined: 10/11/2006
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Posted: 5/19/2008 8:58:26 AM
I have to agree - a short woman with a very tall man looks silly. But I have a friend who is 5'1' or so, and she won't go out with someone who is only 5'7'. It's really ridiculous, imho!
 nogo3

Joined: 2/26/2007
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Shorter men: Thought about dancing??
Posted: 5/19/2008 10:14:08 AM
short or tall, if guys would just learn to do a few dances they could always get dates and its fun and easy exersize.

 actualized

Joined: 4/13/2008
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Shorter men: Thought about dancing??
Posted: 5/19/2008 10:29:05 AM
heteroscedastic bodily movements requires a lack of intelligence or a mind-altering substance to pull it off. modern dancing has no order by design and so what determines the proper movements to elicit purpose or appeal? For those dances that are orderly, why bother being trapped in the monotony?

I'll squirm for a moment at times for a certain few second musical magnificence but is ceases immediately and could not go on for no good reason. I am certain many men and a few women do the same.

there are other ways of meeting but to enable a meaningful change in the dating arena, a major cultural change would have to take place and it won't happen in my lifetime. it would require using higher thinking abilities to make choices about one's self and of others.
 lostincali

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Posted: 5/19/2008 2:46:52 PM

But quite often the shorter the woman the bigger man she wants !!!

I think a short woman and a tall man look ridiculous together.


I agree,I see it all the time and scratch my head.
I am 5'10 and I like women who are shorter than me,no offense to tall women.
 sheilarodri

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Posted: 5/19/2008 2:52:42 PM
Well i like to dance and wear heels. I dont care if the guy is short or tall. As long as i can get them to the dance floor then its good. And for the record when i wear heels im 6'2" so many guys are shorter, not a problem.
The problem is when people go to dances and dont dance they just lurk around the edge and when they get ask to dance and wont.
 moreleggs

Joined: 5/5/2008
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Shorter men: Thought about dancing??
Posted: 5/19/2008 2:58:02 PM
GO BY YOURSELF NEXT TIME.........................................................
 tuckerjo

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Posted: 5/19/2008 3:18:01 PM
Sorry to say that i really wouldn't care how well a man shorter then me could dance. It would not make him anymore attractive to me. Now i am not all that tall for a woman so pretty much all guys are taller then me , but i still would rather a guy be at least a few inches taller then me.
 Zain.

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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:32:54 PM
^^^^

proof right there OP good dancing skills don't me jack. If a woman is not willing to date short men no amount of dancing skills is going to help. Futhermore, I don't think it helps short men THAT much tall men can take up dancing as well. If a woman is at
a club and she sees a good dancer who's tall and another who is short who will she pick? and don't assume that just because a woman dances with a guy she's attracted to him.




"what I don't understand is why shorter men just don't date shorter women. There is plenty of both. Why lament? "

Short women don't want to date short men anymore then then tall women do that's why.

"there are other ways of meeting but to enable a meaningful change in the dating arena, a major cultural change would have to take place and it won't happen in my lifetime. it would require using higher thinking abilities to make choices about one's self and of others."

agreed, and a few dancing lessons isn't going to change that.
 MsCarmen2U

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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:48:47 PM

But quite often the shorter the woman the bigger man she wants !!!

I think a short woman and a tall man look ridiculous together.




I agree,I see it all the time and scratch my head.
I am 5'10 and I like women who are shorter than me,no offense to tall women.


I'm 4'10" and have always gone out with guys that were tall (6ft or taller).

Makes me wonder if there were people out there like you two that thought I looked silly or ridiculous with the guy.


I just don't understand people sometimes.
 CapoKoala

Joined: 1/28/2008
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Shorter men: Thought about dancing??
Posted: 5/19/2008 4:53:12 PM

heteroscedastic bodily movements requires a lack of intelligence or a mind-altering substance to pull it off. modern dancing has no order by design and so what determines the proper movements to elicit purpose or appeal? For those dances that are orderly, why bother being trapped in the monotony?

I'll squirm for a moment at times for a certain few second musical magnificence but is ceases immediately and could not go on for no good reason. I am certain many men and a few women do the same.

there are other ways of meeting but to enable a meaningful change in the dating arena, a major cultural change would have to take place and it won't happen in my lifetime. it would require using higher thinking abilities to make choices about one's self and of others.


This post is meaningless beyond saying "I think I look dumb when I dance and so it's impossible and stupid too and anybody who does it is lame". You say that modern dancing has no order by design. Are you talking about the dance style "modern dance"? Tell a dancer or choreographer that what they're doing has no order, and get back to me on that.

I'll assume you mean dancing to modern music, as opposed to modern dance. How could you be required to be stupid or high in order to do something? What determines the proper movements to elicit purpose or appeal? Nothing. There's no guide to it; you just go out and do it. On one end of the dancing spectrum, you have Ballet, which requires years of formal instruction to be performed with any level of technical competence. After that you have many various ballroom styles, which require some instruction for the basics, and then you have the choreographed hip hop styles and improvised breakdance styles, which can be primarily self taught if necessary, but still require diligence and practice to be performed with any skill. All the way at the end of this list is the dancing you do in the club, which requires nothing more than basic motor skills and ears. There's no "moves" to pull out, no forms or special foot placements. You just go out and move to the music and everybody else is doing exactly the same random stuff that you're doing. There are no rules and so it is a dance style which is in reach of anybody, regardless of past dance experience or height or physique.

You say that you squirm for a moment at times for a certain few seconds of musical magnificence. This is proof positive that you can dance, you're just stubbornly insisting that it's impossible because you're sure you look stupid. And make no mistake, you do look stupid, but it's not because you're bad at dancing. It's because you're standing there squirming to moments of musical significance, instead of recognizing a steady beat to whatever song happens to be playing and shifting your weight in time with the beat.

Trust me, you're not nearly as interesting to watch as you think you are. I can promise you that once you leave the dance arena, people don't gather in circles to snicker about that one dude who was just so bad.
Shorter men: Thought about dancing??
Posted: 5/19/2008 5:20:12 PM
Here we go another short guy thread, can't wait to see how many pages this one will get to before it gets deleted like the last one. Once again looks come into play, if you are short good looking and have a great physique you will attract taller women. No need for dancing. And besides that, my living room is only large enough for smaller women and slow dancing.
Western Rose and Tuckerjo, if you don't like men that are shorter why not say so in your profile.
 tuckerjo

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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:34:05 PM
I am 5'4 leagueofextraordinarymen , I have never even met a man who was shorter then me so why would i put it in my profile? Anyway if i really liked a man and everything important was compatible then i could see myself with someone my height. So long as he wouldn't mind me wearing heels every now and again it would be fine.


Still though i would prefer a man be at least a few inches taller then me . Even so at 5'7 that's still not tall so it's not like i am going after men who are 6'4. To tell you the truth i would never date someone over 6 feet. For me that would be way to tall. Even 6 feet tall for me would be pushing it.
 BamaBob

Joined: 11/12/2007
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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:46:20 PM
Personally, I don't care how tall or short a woman is. Like most people my height varies depending on the time of day, shoes I'm wearing, and how well my spine feels. I'm not short or tall at 5'9"-5'10". As for dance partners, I much prefer one who is very close to my own height and physique. I have a tendency to find beautiful tall women to be extraordinarily beautiful. As for dancing with them, it doesn't really matter but I definitely prefer dancing with a woman who is attracted to me and I to her.... seldom does height come into the equation. As for the style of dancing it pretty much depends on where you're from. For sure, the older crowd has been pretty pleased with ballroom dancing, line dancing, and slow belly rubbing dancing. These are generally fairly simple and easy for the novice as well as those who don't mind a making a little effort to learn the dance moves. It's not about perfection but simply about having a good time and enjoying being out and meeting people whether for amorous purposes or simply to be social, getting out of the house after finding yourself single again, and learning that it is fun to meet people and meet new friends so you can get your life back on track again.
 Sabrosura

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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:51:00 PM
I agree that knowing how to dance well does open more oppties to meet the ladies. HOWEVER, it does not necessarily mean in a romantic way for all.

For heart core dancers (Salsa, etc....), they look to have a mind blowing dance with someone that you connect with on the floor (for the dance/high of it). There is nothing like it!!!

Latin dancing, which by the way is very sensual and although the partners may appear like they "know the women fairly well" as you put it(LOL!!!) it may not be the case. This is another subject on its own.

It surely won't hurt your oppties with the ladies though!

 Sabrosura

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Posted: 5/19/2008 5:56:20 PM
Zain: "If a woman is at a club and she sees a good dancer who's tall and another who is short who will she pick? and don't assume that just because a woman dances with a guy she's attracted to him."


If I see a good dancer (Latin) rest assure I will NOT care if he is short, medium or tall. I don't go to a club with the intentions of picking up a man. I am there to get my groove on to the music (big time music/dance lover here).

You are correct that if a woman dances with a man it does not mean that she is attracted to him.

 Zain.

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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:40:04 PM
^^^^
Statiscally speaking most women would pick the taller guy assuming they were there to meet a man.

you don't care because you're not there to pick any guys up anyway. actually most women don't go to clubs to pick up men so another reason why being a good dancer won't help. Clubs are usually the worst places to meet women especially if you're a short guy.
 Golconda

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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:46:44 PM

You are correct that if a woman dances with a man it does not mean that she is attracted to him.


Yup, dancing by itself doesn't mean much. I'd much rather have a good conversation with a woman than dance with her.
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