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 sweettreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Wicca
Posted: 4/28/2009 3:12:00 AM
Right forum, just gotta make sure the enquiry hasn't been covered elsewhere, is all. What's the topic?
 sweettreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Influencing another's faith.. where to draw the line?
Posted: 4/28/2009 3:09:31 AM

Obviously we all influence each other's belief system to some degree or another.. this is inevitable and imo beneficial.. but what I am specifically getting at is the influence of those who feel that everyone should believe as they do..
I wouldn't know to say "influence", so much as "affect", although that could just be a personal semantic issue. "Influence" seems to indicate a contribution, whereas I've born plenty of witness to both contribution and denigration with regard to one person or another's effects on the spiritual choices of others.

For those of you who do feel this way, I am curious..
N/A

And for all those in between.. what do you think is the greatest way to influence another spiritually?
Define "greatest". Seriously, if we're talking impact, I'd have to go with Scorpio with regard to contribution, and folks starting with the conclusion that they're right going in the other direction, if you get what I'm sayin'.

Also, I kinda found this amusing:
Do you draw a line on the methods used? Or is there a line in your mind?

There is no "line". "The line" is something you make up in your own head.
So... "No", right? I just think it's funny how far that one went.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 109 (view)
 
Nurses in the hospital.. NEED to vent!
Posted: 12/2/2008 5:07:42 PM

I would say keep your suspicions to yourself!! What else could I expect from one of the op's "friends", makes me wonder what the motives are here...............

I will keep standing up for my profession despite the op's tirade, and her constant need for approval regarding her actions and comments. Her thread is about nurses in the hospital, so to say she is not barating nurses is rediculous! Am I looking for absolution? why would I??? I am not the one in the wrong here. I am so tired of people dragging down healthcare workers regardless of the roles they play in the healthcare system, because it's easier to blame them for mistakes then it is to blame the system who work these caregivers to the bone, with very little pay and very little thanks. I, along with my healthcare professionals will continue to strive for a better healthcare system, we will continue to provide care to the best of our ability, because I will say this again, THIS is what we do best!!


Speaking of tirades......
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 106 (view)
 
Nurses in the hospital.. NEED to vent!
Posted: 12/2/2008 2:12:51 PM
I am surprised that you are still so bitter after all this time, shame, time to move on.........



Actually, you are the one that seems bitter to be honest, and it seems you can not read either. Please do see below.

You said:



Just because you had a bad experience, please do not label the medical profession as people who do not care.


When I clearly stated a post above you the following:



3. If you read any of my posts, you'll also notice I've never said the entire profession is messed up, I have encountered many great nurses and Drs amongst the years.


But somewhere in your mind that reads as me labelling the entire profession as people who don't care. Interesting how you get that interpretation from that statement.



You would be best served concentrating on all the good that we do instead of barating the hardest workers you will ever find in any profession!!


Please see my above quote. Thank you.



Your experience with the medical profession is not typical, so please get off your soapbox and leave us to do what we do best..........


I'm not on a soapbox, but apparently you are. You are trying to convince me and everyone else how amazing and awesome nurses are and how we "the public" just crap all over you, when infact I, anyways have stated time and time again that I had this one experience and understand that my experience doesn't blanket any/all in that profession.

 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 102 (view)
 
Nurses in the hospital.. NEED to vent!
Posted: 11/29/2008 6:44:03 PM
RE: LondonLass and Nicenurse.

I was reading through this old thread that I posted what seems like ages ago, because I was bored and checking the forums out, however I noticed the replies and wanted to comment.

What you both described as "the normal day of a nurse" is completely unacceptable. and no one should have to go through that. But a few things.

1. Just because a nurse tends to receive abuse as you mentioned does not excuse them for making mistakes, especially life threatening mistakes. Administering wrong medication, leaving a patient laying on the ground, or serving someone food that could kill them is a bad mistake, any which way you want to look at it. And no matter WHAT a nurse goes through on their job, that is NO excuse to drop the ball on potentiatelly fatal issues.

2. If you receive as much as abuse as you state, than leave the profession. Plain and simple. If that isn't what you signed up for, and I'm sure it isn't, than leave. Should you feel the need or desire to stay for whatever reason, than great. But please do NOT use the "bad side" of nursing a way to excuse poor attention to patients.

3. If you read any of my posts, you'll also notice I've never said the entire profession is messed up, I have encountered many great nurses and Drs amongst the years. But as I said I don't want to hear ANY excuses about dropping the ball. Sorry, it isn't a profession that you can drop the ball in. Sure if you are a secretary and you drop the ball by placing the wrong address on a paper, so it goes to the wrong place. But if you give a patient the wrong drug you can kill them.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 5 (view)
 
BBW
Posted: 11/28/2008 8:37:54 PM
Juicy, I'm sorry to hear that you are having a hard time here on POF. The sad reality is that no matter where you go in the "real world", being bars, clubs, socials, etc or here online, and no matter what you look like, there are some guys who will only want you for sex and nothing else.

Having said that, as a BBW myself my best advice would be to just be happy in your own skin and proud of who you are. Hang in there. Ignore the ones that are jerks and enjoy the conversations with those that aren't.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 65 (view)
 
learning to performing exorcisms and banishing negative energies
Posted: 9/3/2008 7:39:32 PM
Forgive me if I duplicate anything said in this thread I don't generally read past the first page for other opinions, sometimes it can get quite lengthly! In regards to the thread title:


learning to performing exorcisms and banishing negative energies


These are 2 completely, and I do mean completely different things. Did I mention completely? Negative energies and exorcism couldn't be further from each other. So I would suggest picking which you'd like to focus on before you do so.


exorcisms and possessions are things of the movies


Are you positive about that? Just because you haven't witnessed it, doesn't make it real. And further to that, if you think it's a thing of the movies, why are you interested in learning the craft?


I am still quite young so I don't want to jump head first into it,


That's the smartest thing I've read yet in the thread, because honestly you'd better know what you are doing before you attempt to tackle anything in the spiritual in a negative manner.


I'm talking more about helping people tackle drug addiction, mental illness and other side effects of possessions


Than I would suggest taking a Psychology Course, maybe move into the field of Social Work?


I am relatively 'strong' so don't worry about any negativity attaching itself to me


Well you should worry, it doesn't matter how "strong" a person is, you are not and will not be exempt from something harming you. And having an ego in any of the above areans, big mistake.

Again, first you need to decide which avenue you want to go. Than sit down and figure out why you want to do it. Once you've done that, I'd suggest reposting with a more specific idea/arena and seeing if people can help you out.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Wierd experience at brothers wedding.....
Posted: 9/3/2008 7:23:58 PM

@ OP

do what is called a "blinded" experiment (or study) if you can.

have somebody blindfold you tightly with ear muffs as well........that same person will bring you (without your ability to know it) inside 6 different buildings.........maybe it would be like 2 churches, 2 synagoges and 2 court houses..........then they would ask you how you "feel" while inside each of these buildings, without you knowing which one was what!

...if you get the same reaction in all 6 of these places (or no reaction at all), then its obviously your mind playing tricks on you.

...if you get a reaction just in the 2 churches (you will know this only in hindsight of course), then there is something to it!..........in which case you may want to repeat this little experiment using more building & churches just to be sure it wasn't a fluke!


Alright, thanks for taking the words out of my mouth, or rather from my fingers! Seriously OP, sum1reels idea is a great experiment to do. Others have also suggested a panic attack, which is possible. Our minds do hold things in, and since you "freaked out" (even if it was only a panic attack) your mind now may associate a religious building with that incident. Try the above, and let us know what happens.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Ted Haggard and his
Posted: 9/3/2008 4:46:26 PM
my position is that if you truly believe something is deeply offensive to god you would not do it.


OP it happens everyday in many peoples lives, whether it's something religious based or not. How often do we say "you shouldn't lie, it isn't right", and yet we tell a little "fib"?

Now don't get me wrong, I think it's quite hypocritical to do something or to make a living off of something and especially condem other people for something when you don't practice what you preach. And unfortunately instances like this lead to "bad publicity" for a lack of better words, for the religion.

However at the end of the day, we are only human beings with human feelings, human emotions and human desires. We are not super human, just simply human.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 12 (view)
 
He Could of Told me he was married.............
Posted: 9/3/2008 4:32:08 PM

His wife answered and the next thing I knew she was calling my house


I have to say that I'm sorry to hear that it happened this way, but honestly, I'm glad that both you and his wife found out that he's a lieing dog.


How could someone with so much love to give who truly wasn't looking for sex on the first date, do that to me.


Just because he wasn't looking for sex on a first date, doesn't mean he wasn't looking for sex down the road. Just because you didn't have sex on the first date, doesn't mean he didn't want to but perhaps realized that you wouldn't give it up? Remember OP, he stepped out on his wife to meet you and didn't even give her feelings or your feelings a second thought.


I will never know but I have to say it was the most exiting date I have had in a very long time, and it gave me home that maybe I will feel all those things again.


You'll find it, and it will be from someone who truly is worth your time, not some dog who is looking to play games. Goodluck!
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 40 (view)
 
overweight/BBW women with fit men
Posted: 9/3/2008 4:15:46 PM
OP, I am a big girl myself and have been for a while. I as well only ever seemed to attract thin or muscular guys. Some had a genuine attraction to a bigger girl, some I'm sure thought I was nothing less than a science project (Oh lookey, how does a fat girl feel?) some I'm sure thought that because I was fat that automatically translated into desparation and therefore must have meant that I was "easy", and some I found admired the fact that I wouldn't just up and conform to what society deemed, correct, beautiful, healthy, appropriate, etc.

They are all easy in their own right to figure out. If your guy is buff and with you, than he obviously thinks you are worth his time and beautiful. However he finds you beautiful, who cares, he's your man, you are his woman and that's all that matters.

You'll find that people who can easily hide behind their computer screens will spout off such trash and seem to have high expectations and oftentimes a completely unrealistic personal reality. Catch them on the street in person however and you'll see that they are just as vulnerable as the next person. It's why when I joined this site I joined it for the forums, for the discussion and not for dating. People have several masks that they can hide behind, and a computer screen is just one more of those masks.

Goodluck with your guy!
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 87 (view)
 
Nurses in the hospital.. NEED to vent!
Posted: 12/28/2007 11:14:56 AM
sweet treat your complaining you didnt get help for 30 minutes...


Actually, no I didn't. If you are going to quote me, at least quote me correctly. I said the patient that needed to go to the bathroom, not me, not my mother, another patient in the hospital. What I said was:


The patient in the next bed had to go to the bathroom. 10 times she called for assitance and 30 minutes later someone FINALLY came to take her....30 minutes!!


Had it been my mother that needed help I would have hunted someone down myself. And had it been her that had needed to go to the bathroom and no one helped her, I would have logged a complaint.

where were the nurses aides? sleeping in the empty beds or lounge?


I beleive I answered that when I said they walked right on by.


lol


Personally I don't think it's a laughing matter. I also have said several times that not all nurses are like this, however no one seems to care about that. I've had some of the best nurses around. But I've also encountered some truly horrible ones. I've encountered awesome medical practice, but I've also encountered crappy medical practice. When I wrote this Original post 2 years ago , at that time it was crappy medical practice that I had encountered about a specific incident and not a blanket statement made about the medical profession. But thanks for coming out.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Why are overweight women called BBW and men just fat?
Posted: 12/21/2007 10:45:38 AM

But I thought the idea of the thread is why all all large women BBW? They are not.


And that's fair, but just because a dating site uses the term "BBW" instead of "Fat" (afterall., which sounds more appealing?) why does it mean "fat women are always called bbws?" It doesn't. The term BBW was coined no doubt by the fashion industry who want to promote their clothing to overweight women in a nice way. I'd be more apt to purchase something from the "BBW Clothing Company" than the "Fat Slob Clothing Company", wouldn't you? It is a marketing tool, nothing more, nothing less. I'm fat, call me whatever the hell you want, no issue to me, but I'll assure you, when some punk on the street feels like calling me down for whatever reason, he's not going to be calling me a BBW, he'll find something a lot ruder to say to me.


My point is that being overweight is too acceptable in today's society


See this is where I think people get it mixed up. Who says that being overweight is acceptable in society? Why is it that because someone accepts me as a human being that all of a sudden my weight is the acceptable issue? Why is it because someone fat demands the same respect as a thin person, is it classfied as "well we are accepting the fat"? It isn't. Accept me for me, whether I'm thin or fat. I'm not asking you to call me "bbw" I'm just asking you to call me by my name, that's it.


It is just plainy unhealthy


I'm really not too sure how many people would fight you on that, including us "fat people". Being overweight is unhealthy yes, but do I not deserve the same respect as a human being because I am fat? If you knew that the word "Fat" made someone feel horrible about themselves because of the stigma attached to it, and the term "BBW" didn't make them feel like crap, which term would you use in referencing them? It's all about respect my friend. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 80 (view)
 
Nurses in the hospital.. NEED to vent!
Posted: 12/21/2007 8:29:55 AM
I would suggest that everyone who has a complaint about our healthcare system to go to the hospital and volunteer your time.


It's a great thought, but there are a few problems with that though. I don't know where you are from, but here I volunteered at a Senoir Citizens home and I had to not only go through a battery of interviews, but tests as well, and also get a ton of shots to be vaccinated against a numerous amount of things, as well as have a police background check performed on me, at my own expense, before I would even be considered to volunteer around the elderly. Hospitals? It's even more stringent on allowing those who are not in the Medical Profession, in.

People also have lives. People work, they have famillies, they come home after work, most don't want to go somewhere and volunteer where they aren't going to be paid. That may sound harsh, but when I put in an 11 hr day, and have to coem home and cook the last thing I want to do is go somewhere for 3 or 4 hrs where I'm not getting paid to be.

People also have priorities, and putting food on the table for the family (hence a job that pays) or getting the house in order (doing everyday chores) or running their kids to practices or social clubs, or visiting with family, all take priority for most people again, over volunteering.


also, instead of that new dress or jacket, perhaps a donation to your local hospital would be more appreciated...


I donate to my hospital every year, I also donate to other charities and give to the homeless. But if I want to take my hard earned money (at minimum wage btw) to buy a nice jacket, I'll do it, and I won't feel guilty about it either.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Why are overweight women called BBW and men just fat?
Posted: 12/21/2007 8:22:37 AM

I agree'd with you on another post you put up on this subject.... But this last statement... LOL..... WTF were you thinking????


Off the deep end? How am I going off the deep end?? I used a family guy reference, correct...but what I was commenting on was a comment by scatterbrains who said that even a cancer patient wouldn't want my fat body. I'd say that comment is a clear indication on what the poster who wrote that feels about fat people. To me it says "even someone on their death bed would rather die than be fat". My reference was just a nice way of saying to him what you said to me "I think you've gone off the deep end".


Fat people shouldn't be mocked...but making them 'beautiful' or 'handsome' just because they are large is silly too.


Have you not seem some "fat women" that are attractive? I have. I think Queen Latifah is beautiful, but just because she is fat, does she not deserved to be called beautiful? And since when does beauty strickly have to be a physical thing? I've met people who were beautiful on the inside and what society may deem as "not so beautiful" on the outside, but it still doesn't detract from their beauty.


But on here 'average' is more 'a few extra pounds'.


This is the ole "average" argument that's been going on for a while here. Average is either looked at with the Medical Associations definition of average weight or statistically average. If we go by the Medical association, yes alot of people are overweight or obese, if we go by statistics of taking 100,000 people and the "average" weight comes out to 200 lbs per person, than that 200 pounds is the "average weight" of people in society.

Which is exactly what you said here, now that I noticed haha:


What is regular? If the top end of the scale keeps growing then the 'average' will grow too
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Why are overweight women called BBW and men just fat?
Posted: 12/20/2007 6:46:13 PM


What does BBW or BHM spell??


They are abbreviations, deal with it.


There is a big difference from a FAT person comparing them self to a cancer, birth deffects, heart defect, Aids, or born with an extra limb


First You are the one that said humans were born perfect and beautiful, not me. Second if you are attempting to say that people are not born fat yet choose to be fat, again, you could be wrong. Sure most babies are born "normal weights", but it also doesn't mean they are not born with inward defects that causes them to be fat. There are, although many people refuse to believe it, but there are people that can not lose weight or have a damn hard time doing so because their body is lacking certain things. For instance, someone could be overweight due to diabetes (and no you don't have to be fat to be diabetic) however insulin makes you gain weight. Someone could be overweight because they were in a car accident and can't be active, someone could be overweight because they have a recessed gene, someone could be overweight for MANY more reasons other than just sitting at home stuffing their faces and being lazy. But the point is, regardless of why they are overweight, they are still human beings, and they still deserve to be treated like one. I don't care why they are fat, whether they "did it to themselves", or not isn't the issue. Everyone deserves basic human rights, and everyone deserves to be respected, I don't care who they are.


These people did not have a choice, they were not as lucky, there is a big F’n difference from FAT and disable.


Interesting, because to you it seems that Fat is a disability in one sentence, and not the next. Hrm.

[quoet] Selfish excuse, you have the choice not to be FAT, those people did not have a choice, Using helpless people for an example to protect your weakness,

First of all I think you are the LAST person to be throwing around the word selfish. I am making NO excuses for being fat. It's none of your business how fat I am, why I am fat or why I am not skinny. That point is no ones business. And just because I am fat, doesn't mean I don't deserve the same amount of respect as someone like yourself.


And I certainly would not put God in this argument.


Actually, I wasn't, you did....and I quote you from earlier:


A person that does not control there body that God gave them does not deserve respect.


You brought God into the conversation by stating fat people aren't respecting their bodies as God gave them to them. So get your facts straight first. And do you feel the same way about smokers who wreck their bodies or people that drink and wreck their bodies? Or just the "fat" ones that outwardily show that they are "wrecking their bodies"? Their are alot of thin people walking around with clotted arteries that are less healthy than I am, however they "look" thin and healthy...so are these people more deserving of respect than I am?


I'm sure all these people with cancer, Aids, heart deffect wouldn't want the chance to be in your shoes with a choice for a better life.


Wow, you have such a negative stigma attached to fat don't you? Ever see the Family Guy episode where Peter decides to use liposuction to lose weight and then his attitude changes? Well Lois gets fed up with his new attitude and suggests he should go back and get the fat sucked out of his head. *hint-hint*
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Why are overweight women called BBW and men just fat?
Posted: 12/20/2007 7:51:15 AM

When we were born we were not fat, if people are fat it is a punishment for not taking care of your body. God gave you a perfect body and when you were born you were born beautiful.


First of all this whole post made my husband and I laugh. Ok. Second, you feel that being fat is a punishment for not taking care of ones self, so are people with Cancer cursed too? Are they bad people and this is Gods way of saying "fu(k you"? And how about birth defects? You claim that people are born perfect, so a baby born with a heart defect or born with aids, or born with an extra limb, or born with cleft pallate, is this also Gods way of saying "Fu(k you" before they were even born? While you are entitled to feel how you do about Fat people, your argument for why you feel that way is very weak.

You say you are a "former fatty", so than you probably know how it feels to be called fat. You probably know how it feels when you get turned down for a promotion because you are fat, or treated poorly or laughed at because you are fat. So my question is this: Having lived through that and know how that feels and what it does to a person, why would you even think of coming here, posting what you did and basically saying fat people are shit, having been on the receiving end of it all?

I'm guessing you were burned horribly when you were fat and still harbor all that anger and this is your way of feeling validated now that you are no longer fat. Really bad way to go about it, but again, I suppose that's your choice. I don't care what a person calls me, call me fat, call me a bbw, whatever, you or no one else defines who I am as a human being by a label. The one thing I do not stand for tho is the following.


No matter how you feel, it will get you some time or another. People that are FAT deserve to be called FAT because it is considered a week personality.


And


You won’t win because people who are FAT have nothing going for them by society


YOU and NO ONE ELSE has the right to tell a fell human being that they are weak and deserved to be put down. YOU and NO ONE ELSE has the right to tell another human being that they have nothing going for themselves. I don't care if it's because they are black, white, FAT, disabled or whatever. I may be fat, but I have ALOT more going for me than YOU do. How so? I don't feel the need to put someone else down and deem their life unimportant simply because they are Fat.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 75 (view)
 
Nurses in the hospital.. NEED to vent!
Posted: 12/20/2007 7:38:28 AM

Like ANY job, there's people out there who do a great job of earning the title of being a nurse... and others REALLY shouldn't be in the profession at all.


I don't think I could agree with this any more.


Welcome to the real world. Why do you feel people should be thanking you? Do you feel like your job has more value than anyone else's? I think you do and I think you have a mentality of entitlement.Do you thank the sanitary worker that picks up your garbage every week allowing you to live in relatively disease free cleanliness? I bet you are insulted by that comparison.


And this? Wow, couldn't have said that any better myself.


Oh dear, more hostility and bashing of nurses, again from north of the border.


*sighs* First, you don't know what bashing is apparently. Second, pointing out problems one has encountered is not bashing, especially since time and again people have said "And I'm sure not all nurses are like that". So how about you get over yourself? Third, what does I or anyone else being Canadian have to do with anything? I am Canadian, I started the thread, I complained about the treatment and care my mother received in a Canadian hospital, therefore if I was complaining about any nurses, they are Canadian nurses, not American ones.


Overpaid??? are you kidding me!!! If I was overpaid, I would not have to deal with the ignorance I am seeing on these posts!!! Get real!!


This I actually chuckled at. If you truly believe there is ignorance amongst these posts, that wouldn't change whether you are paid $5/hr, $50/hr or $100/hr. Overpaid?? Maybe not, but I'm sure you make alot more money than someone making minimum wage.


It seems that many of you north of the border, have a real chip on your shoulder, please, get over it and stop the constant barrating of the medical profession....!!


Actually it seems you have an issue with us North of the border. Are you upset that you don't have free healthcare like we do? Or perhaps because we do have free healthcare you feel that we don't have a right to complain about it when we have an issue with it?


Time for me to move on to a more intelligent forum............!!


No worries here. You can move to another forum and misinterpret what they are saying now too!


Well I gotta go put on my snow shoes to walk my dog now and add some finishing touches to my igloo, god help me if I get Frostbite and have to see a medical person after what I posted here...


lol Hey why don't you stop by my igloo for some whale blubber and beer afterwards, oh and hey..don't forget your toque!
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 70 (view)
 
Nurses in the hospital.. NEED to vent!
Posted: 12/19/2007 9:37:42 PM

Op, I have just started reading this thread, I am very upset with some of the comments that I am seeing regarding nurses in hospitals..........


Fair enough, but some people (myself included) have had bad experiences with nurses in hospitals. For the record, I wrote the Original post almost 2 years ago, as well I've said many times that I understand not all nurses are like this, however this particular experience left me miffed. Moving on from that...


Have you ever stopped to think why we work horrendous shifts in sometimes horrible conditions for very little money?


I don't need to stop and think about it, I know that nurses are overworked and underpaid. I also understand that in that position people tend to numb themselves to their surroundings for the sake of attempting to not get too emotionally involved with their work.


Please, get over your bitterness and hostility, and reflect for a moment, if it were not for us hard working nurses, many of these patients would have died a long time ago.......!!


I'm not bitter, at the time I wrote the OP I was upset...but I think most people would have been.

The nurses and former nurses that have posted here also need to realize a few things. One, I am human just like everyone else. We all know that if you have 10 great experiences and 1 bad one, the bad one always seems to creep it's way back into the picture at some point. Also, when someone is waiting for hours on end in a hospital (not your fault) and they get the "assembly line treatment" (not your fault, you are just patching up and shipping out like you are told to do) it frustrates people. There is nothing worse than waiting 5 or 6 hrs in the ER to be seen by someone while you are in pain, than shifted around from nurse to nurse and treated poorly, or even remotely poorly. It angers and frustrates a person. And once you've been through the long waits and the shifting around and the seemingly not so personable nurse or two and than given wrong medication, do you honestly expect that person (or their loved one) to sit there and say "well shit happens, it's ok". It's not likely.


We get our thanks with pay you seem to think, well we get very little pay, and very little thanks especially from whining individuals who just sit and complain, but never do anything to try and improve the situation...........!!!


Every profession is like that sweetie. I don't work in health care, just customer service. My reward at the end of the day is the money I bring in and the roof it puts over my head. I encounter rude people everyday who treat me like nothing more than some idiot who is "expected to do their job" and if they are mad, or unsatisfied, or frustrated or don't beleive they have gotten the service they feel they deserve... they let me know. It doesn't just happen to nurses, it happens in every profession.

Speaking of Dr's. My sister in law took my 5 month old niece to a walk in clinic 3 days ago because she's been sick. The clinic was empty and the receptionist informed her that the Dr doesn't see patients under 5 years of age. She asked if she could please see if he'd see her since she's been really sick, again the response was the same, he doesn't see patients under 5 years. So she walked out with her sick baby because of what is in my opinion not just poor treatment but incredibly horrible medical ethics. I went for testing today at the hospital and the Ultrasound Technician I had treated me like a number, just like another product on the assembly line. She was rude, wouldn't crack a smile if I paid her, and again wanted me in and out as fast as it could happen. Does it mean that all doctors, nurses or technicians are horrible people, and seemingly uninterested in the people that they treat? Of course not. But experiences like that leave you with a sour taste in your mouth, and if it happens on a fairly consistent basis (not just with me but with other people as well) it makes you wonder. Why are people in this profession if they truly don't seem to care about it?
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 23 (view)
 
GIMMIE this for Christmas!!!!
Posted: 12/11/2007 7:56:27 PM

In all seriousness (or not!), who here celebrates Christmas as a religious and/or commercial holiday and is *not* participating in the corporate/retail love-fest experience (meaning - buying gifts for others and/or wanting gifts from others)??


Aweee the cynical view of Christmas. Ok..so I guess it depends on how you were raised, but I was never raised as Christmas being about gifts and commercialism. Christmas was a time about family. Getting together with people you don't see often, having a good laugh, good food and enjoying each others company. Christmas in my opinion, is what you make it, not what someone else dictates it should be.

Having said that I am buying gifts this year as I always do. Not because I saw a cute Walmart commercial on TV, not because anyone said "oh buy me this", and certainly not because it's "what Christmas is about" either. I do it because I enjoy giving. I enjoy buying or making something and giving it to someone knowing they will appreciate it and enjoy it.


I'm choosing to opt out (not totally, but trying) by giving others homemade chocolate truffles and cards. Any other alternatives being used out there? Examples being donations made in other people's names, food stuffs, etc.


Opting to make your own gifts is a really great idea. Not only is it extra personal and that much more special, oftentimes it's alot cheaper for you to be able to do as well.

But a to you none the less!

 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Why are overweight women called BBW and men just fat?
Posted: 11/20/2007 7:11:38 PM

Seems to me our society is becoming more and more unhealthy. Our neighbours to the south have taken obeseness to a new founteer. It seems 300 pound people are the norm today in the USA


It's the same here in Canada, but moving on from that....


I always wondered why an overweight woman can be called a BBW while an overweight man is just refered to as fat... or a slob?


Who calls fat women BBW's? First, if I walk down the street and some 16 year old punk throws an insult at me he sure doesn't call me a "BBW pig", he'll call me a "fat pig". Second, it's mainly a marketing tool. What woman wants to go shopping and shop in the "Fat" section, when they can shop in the "Bbw", section? Third, why can a woman not be fat, and beautiful? Why do people feel the need to put down someone simply because they are fat? Yes, if someone is fat, they are fat. But the word fat holds a negative tone with it. It's thrown around generally to make someone feel bad about themselves, and we all know that women are more sensitive about their weight than men...so why do you feel it's necessary to further put someone down? I couldn't care less if someone calls me fat, bbw, large, whatever, because I'm not defined by a term. To each their own. But why must some people go out of their way to purposely want to make someone feel bad about themselves? I don't get it. Btw, "fat men" have a term too, it's BHM...or Big Handsome Men.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 41 (view)
 
Westboro Baptist Church Sued
Posted: 11/3/2007 7:31:54 PM
I'm glad the verdict read the way it did because it will hurt them financially, however as deranged as they are, they will no doubt spew something to the tune of "we are persecuted for doing gods work" kinda thing. Having said that, do they have a right to express their religious beliefs at a funeral? Hell no....unless it's their family members funeral to run. Further to that, you'd get arrested for a hate crime anywhere in the US, and what these deranged fools do is the exact same thing. I hope ANYONE who's funeral is picketed by these morons, sues. Eventually they'll shut up.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 3 (view)
 
What make a man a man? (based on religious texts)
Posted: 9/25/2007 6:44:23 PM

I have to ask this question.

What makes a man a man?


Loaded question with a million different answers. Religion aside, I think most peoples idea of what a "real man" is, will be different.

My idea of a man has nothing to do with his religious beliefs. To me, a man is someone that is strong, yet sensative, mature, takes care of his own, takes care of his responsibilities, sticks to his word once he gives it, etc. Whether he's christian, jewish, pagan, whatever...that doesn't define him as a man., unless he claims to be of a certain religious affiliation and preaches his doctrine and doesn't follow it.


Amazing. We're on a dating site. In the religion forums. We're single. Presumably looking for a good relationship. And yet no-one seems to be able to define what a man is.


First, not everyone that uses the forums are looking for relationships, I came here simply to partake of the forums, not looking for anything. Also, to some people, their definition of a "man" may be something they deem personal and don't want to discuss, so don't take offense to the lack of responses.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Why no sex during ramadhan?
Posted: 9/25/2007 5:02:56 AM

SweetTreat. where ya been? I missed ya....


Hey raveninns, I've been around, busy but glad to be back!


Well.... I'm definitley willing to support him because it's important to him. But... I'm not particularly thrilled about it. Get my drift?


Bottom line is, you can ask 10 different people here and get ten different answers, best bet is to go straight to the source, because your boyfriends viewpoints are probably different than anyones here. Btw...being supportive of your significant other is a good thing, but doing so blindly isn't the best way to do it.


\This is ridiculous. He is not an extremist, nor are most Muslims and he is not going to kidnap our nonexistent children and bring them to his home country you American twits....


Now now, enough with the name calling, not all americans are twits, just like I'm sure not all canadians are either, even tho some project themselves to be.....


It must be a drag, but there are alternatives... or are they forbidden too?


I'd say her best bet is to research the religion, than talk to the S/O and compare his viewpoints against the doctrines and not our viewpoints.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Why no sex during ramadhan?
Posted: 9/23/2007 6:46:03 PM

So, my Islamic boyfriend has just informed me that until ramadhan is over (three weeks from now) that we can't have sex anymore. I have googled this.... and I'm not really understanding why...


I have no clue myself, however...the easiest and most mature thing to do would be to ask him. If this is something that's important to him, he should know why and should be willing to explain it and discuss it with you. Not just the sex/no sex aspect, but all areas of Islam.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 98 (view)
 
The American Flag...Gotta Read!!!
Posted: 8/9/2007 7:22:57 PM
This has been a very good read, honestly. I have read every post written here. My thoughts are simple: I understand that some people take offense to the flag being flown upside down. To those people, the flag is a representation of what they feel as Americans. I also understand the other points of views that state their freedom allows them to express themselves in such a manner and chose to use the flag, which has been proven right here in this thread, to be a symbol that carries some weight, as a form of protest.

I was talking to my guy the other night about this, and I find it sad really that something such as a flag flying upside down seems to invoke more anger in folks than the present condition of their own country/government.

Does it offend soldiers that have served and are presently serving? I'm sure it does offend some, but is it disrespectful? I don't think so, but that's also only my opinion. I honestly don't think anyone here could have said anything better than this:


When I was in, it was a matter of serving for the benefit of the nation, not so I could claim any manner of special status or "right to respect". I, like many others, gave up my rights of self-determination for a period, in order to defend the republic that maintains those rights for its citizens. What they do with those rights is not for me to question, just as my use of those rights is not theirs to decide.


True freedom isn't selective as some would like to have it. True Freedom is the right to be able to protest how one sees fit in a non violent manner. If an upside down flag offends you, it does...but guess what? The war offends alot more people and kills alot more than any flag flown upside down.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 2 (view)
 
The problem with religion
Posted: 8/1/2007 10:35:54 AM
The problem with religion is the fear it instills. Look at most religions, if you don't preach their gospel, if you don't live your life a certain way, if you don't do certain things or more importantly if you do certain things, you won't attain the afterlife you seek and yet will burn in hell, or live in drakness void of any and all things great, etc.

If religion focused more on love, love for their fellow man, love for themselves, etc and less on fear of what may or may not happen when they die...things would be alot better.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Christian Martyrs?
Posted: 8/1/2007 10:18:16 AM
"She deserved to be raped, she was in a biker bar and dressed like a slut!"

It's always wrong to blame the victim.


First, I actually didn't say they deserved it, now did I? But there is a thing called self responsibility though. I wouldn't go walking through Central Park at 3 am alone without knowing there is a chance I could be jumped, robbed, raped, beaten, etc. Now if a biker stood at the bar door and said "I'm going to rape you if you come in here", that would be another story. Sure...she wouldn't deserve to be raped, but she would have been warned ahead of time and decided to make her decision based on that.

If you are going to purposely place yourself in a situation where you know there is violence (foreign missionaries) I think it's wrong to expect people to risk their lives to get you out of the situation you yourself knew you may walk into. No one walks into a bar expecting to get raped, regardless of how they dress....but any idiot knows if you walk into a country like Iraq or Afghanistan and preach another religion, odds are you'll be beaten, raped, killed, etc. Hell they hold up large signs telling you just that.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Christian Martyrs?
Posted: 8/1/2007 9:57:42 AM
So I'm watching CNN and they are talking about the Korean Christian Missionaries that are being held hostage in Afghanistan right now. The Taliban are holding 21 Christian Korean Missionaries Hostage, 2 they have killed already. Why are christian missionaries walking into such unstable places, where violence is known, death is known and ultimately they and their "mission" are not welcomed? It isn't just their lives in jeopardy, if they are taken hostage, NATO and soldiers have to come look for them putting their lives in further danger?

I think christian groups should be discouraged from dabbling in regions where their religious faith is not appreciated, and where others are required to risk their lives to save them when inevitably they are kidnapped, to be used as political bargaining chips.

What's worse is when these missionaries slap the same people that rescued their sorry asses, right in the face. In 2005, Canadian James Loney and four members of the Christian Peacemakers Team in Iraq were kidnapped and held as hostages by something calling itself the Swords Of Righteousness Brigade. Before being rescued by British SAS troops and Canadian JTF2 specialists, an American member of the CPT, Tom Fox, was murdered.

The gratitude of those rescued manifested itself in Loney refusing to wear a poppy on Remembrance Day, and refusing to testify against his suspect captors later held by the Americans. A similar response came from Norman Kember, a British CPT member who was rescued.

Are people like this Christian Martyrs, or are they just plain ignorant?
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 25 (view)
 
Should preachers confess or admit....
Posted: 8/1/2007 8:09:41 AM

Why should preachers be different from other people?


For the same reason that Police Officers are different and School Teachers are different. For one, when you are in a position of authority, you have to realize you will be looked at different and held to a different standard. Second, as sky said, Practice what you preach. And third, do you have Posting ADD?
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Will she ever love me?
Posted: 8/1/2007 3:33:58 AM

hm after writing this all out it she hardly seems worth it.

what do you think


Thats what I think, you already know the answer.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 5 (view)
 
are kids a turnoff?
Posted: 8/1/2007 3:10:50 AM
First impression: That's awesome that he's taking responsibility for his children.

Second impression: Not for me. Simply because I don't want children and don't plan to have any, so if we got serious, I wouldn't want to feel like I was "stuck" or "obligated" to take an interest in his children, or feel like I "have" to raise them.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Am I cheap?
Posted: 8/1/2007 3:08:34 AM
OP I don't blame you for not wanting to spend $50 on a complete stranger. Personally I've always gone with the idea of first meeting, we pay for our own. Afterall, who knows I may not like the guy, and if I want to split early, I don't want to feel obligated to stick around simply because he's paying. Not only that..he is a stranger.If you insist on paying, stay within your budget. Go for a light lunch and coffee at a cafe so you can talk, or talk a walk and grab an ice cream or something.

As for do women expect a production on the first date? Some do, some don't. But a huge warning..if you start off with a huge production, most women expect it to continue as such. So my advice, stay minimal...if she's really into you, she will be, and it won't be for the 3 course dinner, but rather the conversation and great time she is having with you. A date offering to pay for your dinner should be looked at like a nice gesture, not an obligation.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 6 (view)
 
What do you think of men who get manicures and pedicures
Posted: 8/1/2007 12:19:10 AM
There is nothing wrong with it at all, personally tho if a guy takes more time to get ready than I do, or spends more time at the salon than I do..he's not for me lol
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Christians as caricatures
Posted: 8/1/2007 12:04:27 AM
For the most part though, it is an exaggeration. Just as I believe some of these alleged encounters with Christians I read about here are exaggerated.


If you go away on vacation to a resort, and the pool is great, the ocean awesome, your room spectacular, the 6 days in the sun and fun wonderful and as you check your luggage, board your plane and arrive home to find your luggage has been lost, what is the first thing you say to your friends when they say "how was your vacation?" No doubt you complain about how incompetant the airline is and how they lost your luggage. It's human nature to always focus on the crap that happens. So yeah, I'm sure some people exaggerate the amount of instances they encounter with wacko fanatical christians, sadly tho, I'm sure some don't. Point is, if you meet 9 nice christians and 1 idiot that gets in your face about everything..that's the one that leaves a bad taste in your mouth, and no doubt the one you'll remember often.

Having said that, I was a christian for many years. For the most part, the people I met were good people with good hearts and good intentions, sadly IMO led astray...but there were quite a few wackjobs there as well. There was a woman at the church I attended, the Ushers called her "Crazy Mary"...nice good christians ushers, eh? Anyways, of a church of 2500 people, she was the one people looked at and said "wow she represents this church? She represents what christians are about?" And she was crazy, truly not all there. She didn't need demons cast out of her, just some good happy pills.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Is it ok to hate muslims when it comes to dating?
Posted: 7/31/2007 11:54:35 PM
First - Why it is not a religious question? Please explain. If someone judges me because of my religion, I think that makes it a religious question.


Well first, you are assuming that they are judging you based on your religion, which unless they say "hey dude, I can't be with you or I'm not interested in you because you are muslim"...than it's just your feeling or assumption as to why they aren't interested.


Second- The chicks were interested in me until they found out about my religion.


Coincidence? Maybe...maybe not. I'll tell you a little story. I was dating this guy that was East Indian, he himself was not religious, he couldn't have given a rats ass about his cultures faith, his family however(Hindu)...completely different story. When it came to his mother, no girl was good enough for "her baby", especially if they were not east indian and if they wouldn't be willing to convert to their faith. Even tho he didn't practice, and even tho he couldn't have cared less. So...perhaps....just perhaps....these chicks were interested until they found out your background, because from what I gather, muslims are extremely devout to their religion as well. And to someone that isn't muslim, they may just feel it's a loss cause. Maybe they have had similar experiences, maybe they have apprehensians about the religion as a whole? The Sharia Law is a well known law (although I know not associated with all that follow the religion) but it could be basis for a girl to say "ya know what..it's just not worth it to me". I'll tell you, I'd never date another East Indian man again. Not because I have issues with the culture or the men, but because many if not most are highly devout, (the Mothers) and unless you convert, you really have no future with their son.


Third - so treating muslims differently or even hating them would not qualify you as a racist, as islam is not a race. I can see technically that is true, I hope this makes same people feel better. But it still leaves us with.... narrow-minded, prejudiced and biased.


I'm the last person to judge someone based on race or religion. As long as a person is happy, I'm happy for them. But again, everything just isn't how it seems on the surface. To you, a girl finds out you are muslim, she splits, you feel it's because she doesn't like muslims, whereas again, there could be several different reasons, such as some I've outlined above.


Fourth - So your saying while they are reading my email or chatting with me their father is looking over their shoulder screaming at them, possible but highly unlikely.


Not at all, but Fathers have a way of making their daughters feel guilty.


Or it is not the girls but actually their fathers, or friends and coworkers that are prejudice against muslims? So the answer is "Yes" due to the recent events it is ok to have prejudice against muslims?


I actually never said that...but what I will say is this: People tend to live in their own worlds. If something isn't within 10 feet of them, if they don't experience it, they aren't really cultured or diverse. So when someone lives in their own world, they all of a sudden hear about things such as 9/11, they get ideas, thoughts, preconcieved notions in their heads. Is it right? No...but it's life. If that's all they have to go by, because they aren't cultured, than that's all they know. Make sense?


As all muslims obviously are extremists and terrorists. I am sure, what you are saying is same thought process that goes in side most girls heads.


Not what I'm saying, infact I have many Muslim friends, and I know that's not what they feel. Sure, I've encountered Muslims that do feel that extremism is the right way, but I've met more that have felt the opposite. But what I am saying is what I said above, some people just don't live outside their own world. They learn by seeing news on Tv, and if that's their basis to go by..than sadly it is.


So the bottom line is that girls dont hate me, they just dont like to date me. and if they dont like me its not becuase I am muslim it is just that they find out something extremely awful about me right after they find out my name.


I'm not saying that either lol I just don't like when people jump to conclusions and assume the worse, that's all.


I am sure I dont introduce myself as "My name is Sheraz and I like to run over puppies" LOL


Well..maybe you should try that line sometime? Hey look, judging by your picture, you're hot..and I'm sure you are a nice guy...so I'm sure you won't have a problem finding a gal. Do what you feel is right, if you feel that being Muslim is an issue, say it upfront or post it in your profile. If you feel it isn't, than keep going on as you have.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Is it ok to hate muslims when it comes to dating?
Posted: 7/31/2007 8:53:14 PM

I am guessing it is unconformable for people considering themselves open minded that they are racists... If they do remove this post I think it would be an answer to my question


- First, I don't think this is a religious question.

- Second..the term "racist" in my opinion is severely over used. Obviously if a chick has been interested in you, your skin colour, ergo your race..was not an issue for her, correct?

- Third, Muslim is a religion..not a race.

- Fourth, you don't know their circumstances behind not dating you once they find out you are muslim. Their fathers could have threatened to disown them if they dated a muslim..ultimately their decision yes, but still...a Fathers opinion generally matters greatly to a woman. They may not want to date you for fear of being bugged by friends, family, co-workers. They may have apprehensions about dating a muslim because of "recent events". But it still doesn't make them racist.

Bottom line, just because they don't date you,. doesn't mean they hate you. And if they don't like you, it also doesn't mean it's because you are a muslim.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Annoying religious freaks anyone?
Posted: 7/31/2007 8:45:17 PM
A friend of mine is a former JW, she said if a JW comes to your door, tell them you've been Ex-Communicated from the church. They are not allowed to socialize with you once they know that and will leave. I'm testing that out on the next JW to knock on my door.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Is it ok to hate muslims when it comes to dating?
Posted: 7/31/2007 8:35:29 PM

My question is what to do in this situation and how to deal with people who judge me without even giving me a chance?


Well..it happens to people all the time. People dismiss others because they are too fat, or too thin, too short or too tall,. too black or too white, too muslim, etc. Simple answer, move on.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 39 (view)
 
When did dissagreeing = hate?
Posted: 7/31/2007 8:27:58 PM

He has referred to a group of people collectively as "Christians" and to their ideas as "moronic"...with or without a few ("") it spews at the very least disregard, no matter who he might be related to that might fit in that category.


Well I disagree with you, and personally I think that you are looking for an argument on the issue. Sky has already said it wasn't what he meant if you took it that way, so really..the discussion is over, now isn't it?



If I say "Christians are dumb"


Than you are calling christians dumb, by saying "dumb ideas", it's different.


I think we covered quotes round about second grade, I'm fairly confident in my interpretation of them, but thanks for the pointer...


No problem, refreshers are always good tho aren't they? Point is, people interpret things differently. Sky has corrected himself enough so that you can read that how you happened to interpret it, he didn't mean it as.


I'm sorry, I was unaware of this "new rule" you speak of. I'm pretty sure you're wrong here but thanks for fighting the good fight.


Not sure if you are new to the forums...but that's just a general unwritten rule around here,...actually..in life. You remember the "air quotations" you do with your fingers? Yeah..anyways..moving on.

Intolerance is completely different than a difference of opinion.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 34 (view)
 
When did dissagreeing = hate?
Posted: 7/31/2007 12:36:15 PM

I don't see what he wrote as calling Christians moronic



see:




msg 21
God to me is not the demonic/moronic idea 'Christians' would have you believe


Fair enough..but it still reads , "Moronic ideas" not "moronic christians". He could have followed it with Muslims, Jews, Dogs, Cats, Lizards etc..it still wouldn't reference them as moronic, just their ideas. And the fact he used quotations should insinuate that he uses the term "christians" lightly. There are christians and there are "christians"...those referenced in quotations are generally done so because they are radicals.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Annoying religious freaks anyone?
Posted: 7/30/2007 10:30:09 PM
^^^ Umm where do you get "anti religion" from? Just because someone doesn't want another person knocking on their door, waking them from their sleep, or disturbing them when they are cooking dinner, or watching their children, doesn't make them anti religion. Personally I chalk up those religious folks that come to my door, to be nothing more than the annoying telemarketers that phone my house. They feel it's their job to do it, and I will either not answer the door when I see them approach (I do often, saves me irritation) or I will politely tell them I'm not interested.

Years back I couldn't stop christians from popping on my doorstep and giving me tracks and trying to convert my soul, but I can't tell you how long it's been since I haven't had one at my doorstep. The JWs are far and few between now.


I did ask one once if they believed that only 144,000 people were going to heaven. The person said yes that is what JW's believe. I then asked if they succeeded in converting me, wouldn't that lessen their chances?


However, I think I'll use this one the next time a JW comes around. Good point there lol
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 41 (view)
 
Annoying religious freaks anyone?
Posted: 7/30/2007 8:01:52 PM
The no solicitor signs seem to work well for people i know that have them. Door to door preaching doesn't happen too much here, think we've been hit twice in the last few months by JW's. I just tell them that I'm not interested and they are respectful enough to leave without hesitation. Anytime in the past I've gotten christian door to doors, they don't leave as easy, but once I say I'm not interested, I shut my door.

I had someone do the same thing, I posted an ad somewhere and all of a sudden I got emails telling me Im a sinner and going to hell lol I emailed them back and politely told them to shove it, and they continued to email me telling me of my demise. So I reported them to their ISP and the emails ended.

Simple solution, hang a sign and don't answer your door when you are sleeping. Or you could answer it and tell them you worship the devil, are sacraficing an animal tonight and would like their name for reference while doing so. Hey. It could work.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Friends who are Non Believers
Posted: 7/30/2007 7:56:18 PM

I was under the assumption that "believers" in this context meant Christians/Muslims/believers in God as opposed to "non believers", meaning buddhists, atheists, agnostics. I am a buddhist as well, so obviously I hold certain beliefs; however from a Christian/Muslim standpoint I am a non-believer.


I understand that too...but like I said..even as a Buddhist, you beleive in something, correct? Pagans beleive in something too. I just don't like the term "non beleiver" simply because you don't beleive in the "christian" god. That's all.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 31 (view)
 
When did dissagreeing = hate?
Posted: 7/30/2007 7:53:01 PM

It seems that every time Christians start loosing the theology discussions, they start asking, "Why do you hate God?"


I've been asked this question before, and the simple answer is, "I don't hate God, I'm just not too fond of his messangers". There is no evidence that God exsists, therefore how can I hate him? There is evidence his messangers exsist, and I'm not too fond of them...but God hasn't done a thing to me.


When did disagreeing with Christian theology come to mean I must hate something I don't believe exists?


It's called a copout answer. Their back is pushed against the wall, the "great fight" isn't being "won" so they throw out what they can.


As regards the Christian God, I've met Him, get along with Him fine. I don't agree with Him, but I don't hate Him.


Gotta agree with this one.


Has anyone ever thought that it is entirely possible to respect the believes of others, to even respect their Gods and Goddesses, without sharing that faith and/or opinion?


Sure it is, because that's how I live my life. My mother raised me to treat others as I'd want them to treat me, and that applies to all aspects of life. Unfortunately of course, respect is subjective as with everything else in life. I'm sure some here would say I don't respect other religions or that I'm not tolerant because I will frankly speak of what I oppose..but I don't think that makes me disrespectful, just honest.


My answer is this "I don't hate God... I don't KNOW God. God to me is not the demonic/moronic idea 'Christians' would have you believe. If there is a God it dwells in me as it does every living and dead thing." :)


Interesting way to put it Sky.


This is one of the problems where some put words into others mouths and put all into one mould. If you have an opinion place your opinion without demeaning or supposing others no matter who, what, where they are.


I don't think he's being demeaning, just stating an opinion. If he has encountered 100 "christians" in life and 95 of them are religious wackjobs that try to shove their religion down his throat, guess what kind of opinion he walks away with when it comes to christianity? That's human nature. Which is why I think he made the point about having no issue with God...just peoples interpretations of him. Personally, I think "christians" oftentimes do more harm than they do good for their cause.


In all your worldly study of religion, if it is necessary for you to use any variation of the word moron to describe those who don't feel the same as you than my humble suggestion is that you learn to also apply it to yourself.


I don't see what he wrote as calling christians moronic, what I read was some christians he has encountered have turned the word of God into their own twisted viewpoint to preach about.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Friends who are Non Believers
Posted: 7/30/2007 7:37:34 PM
First not to nitpick, but I hate the term "non beleiver"...just because someone doesn't beleive the way you do, doesn't mean they don't beleive in something or someone, nor should their beleif be discounted simple because it isn't what you beleive in. Having said that I'm Buddhist and have a few christian friends. The way our friendship survives is that we realize and accept that what we individually beleive is just an extension of who we are. We don't push our beliefs on one another, instead respect eachothers rights to live our lives as we want to. People that can't do that, IMO are either extremely insecure in their own faith and fear they can easily be "led astray", or led to beleive that it's wrong to associate with those that don't live exactly as they do. Any way you cut it..it's sad.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 20 (view)
 
why do women hurt themselfs?
Posted: 7/8/2007 12:17:14 PM
Simple answer: Most women don't intentionally go and look for guys like that. Guys like that are called "Players", they play the game right, treat you right, say all the right things, get you hooked and than slowly release their poison. By that time women generally have slowly succumb to this and don't even realize it, or they keep thinking "I can make him change" or "what did I do wrong?" or "how can I fix that?". Now there are the majority that are also into personal S/M. But you have to realize, homelife as a child plays a HUGE part in our Adult life. If a girl is raised in a home where the mother makes "the wrong choices" in men..she's apt to only know of those kinds of choices and repeat them.

As for the physical aspect, women, just as men, are attracted to whatever they are. Just because a guy is nice and would treat a woman like a queen, doesn't mean she has romantic feelings for him.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 30 (view)
 
How spiritually/religiously do you measure up?
Posted: 7/5/2007 2:05:25 PM
How closely do you represent the views of your friends here on plentyoffish?


Umm Im confused...because I only represent my views, and my interpretation of my views...no one elses.


I did a search to find out what my spiritual convictions are… it has to be a great way to understand yourself - where you are coming from.


Ahhh interesting. Getting the "outside looking in" picture of yourself..I should try that sometime.


I realize this is not for everyone. But I ask you to try this simple test, if only to find your own light.


Ohhh test time..yay!


Having the result of the test, if you are inclined, compare it with your friend's… you never know, you just might find the ideal soul mate.


Interesting..I wonder how my results will compare to the guy Im with..



Come back and discuss if you found it rewarding, revealing, useless or whatever.


Ok..I did it.... and the results in a second..first... I follow Theravada Buddhism and my guy follows Paganism...now my results?

100% Neo-Pagan
70% Theravada Buddhism

Very interesting...and surprisingly accurate. Hey Sky I noticed you scored higher on the Buddhism level than I did! But since I fall 100% (according to this quiz) in the pagan catagory, it makes sense that my guy and I are a good pair.
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Funerals and Religion
Posted: 7/3/2007 1:32:48 PM
Should it be Your wishes...(the deceased) or should it be what the family wants and will get comfort from?


The deceased of course. However they need to make it known while they are alive, the kind of funeral they want..otherwise how is their family to know? I've already discussed funeral plans with my family (after all I don't know when I'm heading from here) and they know right down to every final detail (including the candy floss machine) what I want at my funeral, and have said they'd respect my wishes.


Should the priest/minister/rabbi or other spiritual leader use this as an opportunity to push the religon of choice? Or to talk about the deceased with little from whatever good book they have?


If the deceased has prior to their death spoke of how to conduct the service, the person doing it should abide by that. If they hadn't spoke of things prior, it's up to the person in charge. I've been to christian funerals where they do altar calls (no lie) and I hate it...talk about preying on the fears of those in mourning...however that's exactly how the deceased wanted it, so they went along with his wishes.


All I want is a cheap $250 cremation


I'd love to know where you can get a $250 cremation...that's dirt cheap (no pun intended) sadly even the "cheapest" of funerals runs about $5k nowadays,
 SweetTreat
Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 17 (view)
 
A touchy subject maybe for some...STD's
Posted: 7/1/2007 7:38:40 PM

A touchy subject however...do you think it's wrong or inappropriate to mention that (I) am STD free and would prefer to hear replies from women that are the same?
Last thing I want to do is hurt someone's feeling or try to insult anybody...but, I've made it this far in my life with a 100% clean bill of Health and simply want to stay that way.


I think most people are looking for someone that is STD free, so placing it in your profile seems kind of silly....but if it's something you want to place there, it's your profile...so go ahead and do it. The scarey thing is, as others mentioned...a great number have been exposed to STDs and a large number HAVE STDs and don't even know it. Your best bet is the safest bet. Before you are sexually active with a girl, discuss your histories, BOTH of you get tested the same time at a free clinic (that way you both find out the answers at the same time) and wear a condom.
 
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