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Joined: 11/17/2005

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Class action against Yahoo Personals and Match.com for fraud Posted: 11/19/2005 7:42:05 PM
Wow, what a relevant thread for me! I just ditched Yahoo! Personals and came to POF after seeing this site mentioned on the edatereview site. I am so very happy I did find POF - why? - let me count the ways: 1) I was getting more mail from "Russian" ladies at YP than from legitimate prospective dates; these E-mails had NO PROFILE attached - how could they possibly manage to do that!? One can only assume YP was complicit in this, or didn't care that massive fraud was occuring on their site. 2) I know from my informal observations that the "active within the last x days/months" designation on profiles was bullsh*t; heck, mine wasn't even right some of the time. There was no reliable way of knowing who was really active on the site at any given time. POF tells precisely when people who have sent me mail last logged on - they also tell me if my outgoing mail has been read - this is a revelation after my experience at YP, where you send your E-mails out into the ether, never knowing if they even got to their destination, much less read! 3) Like every other pay site - at YP you couldn't tell who was a paying customer who could answer your E-mails or not. Crappy. Perhaps the worst trait of ALL the pay sites - they all suck. 4) Like every other pay site - absolutely RIDDLED with "dead" (inactive) profiles, to make it look like there were lots of prospects. 5) POF is the FIRST site I've seen that had forums such as these - KUDOS! This has been fun already! I can't compliment the site enough for maintaining these. 6) I've only been a POF member for three days or so and had more contact with REAL women than I did in three separate 3-month stints at YP. Nothing may pan out of it, but it's been great to have REAL contact with REAL people. 7) You can actually check to see who's put your on their "Favorites" list here - how very cool. A feature not even thought of elsewhere. LOL, perhaps I'll make it onto someone's Favorite list someday... 8) POF is really free - hard to believe - it's FREE and it's BETTER by a long shot. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. I could go on from here, but you get the idea. I guess my main point is, even ignoring any outright illegal activity on the part of these pay sites, they run a lousy business that serves to line their pockets, NOT get people together - it's a soul-sucking, dead-end affair. I'm very happy to be giving POF a try - it couldn't be more different. Thanks to all, Leo

Joined: 11/17/2005

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Men dating single mothers Posted: 11/19/2005 9:04:40 AM
I hear you, ackrite55! I take my daughter to gymnastics every Monday evening - when she first started, I saw a very attractive single Mom who also had a daughter in the 7-9 year old sessions. The Mom and I got to talking, and the little light bulb went off in my head that I ought to ask her out, but all too quickly I saw how she handled her younger child that was out in the waiting area with us. Without going into too much detail, suffice it to say that I could see CPS getting involved in this woman's life in the near future - at the very least, I was disturbed about what I saw in terms of her physical way of handling her child, and the child's behavior in response. It looked like a heap o' trouble comin' all around. So that was a no-go from the start. Another even more glaring example is that of my brother, who is 1 1/2 years younger than I am, and never married...he was very much involved with a lady awhile back who had two children that my brother adored. He was really on the road to marrying this lady - all of us in the family thought, anyway - but over time, he and she could not come to grips with their wildly different views/methods on child-rearing. After a time, he very regretfully had to break up with her - the friction was just too great. He still talks about her with regret. Leo

Joined: 11/17/2005

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Men dating single mothers Posted: 11/18/2005 12:41:26 PM
Being a single Dad myself, I actually prefer single Moms, as they understand how much one-person parenting involves. Not only that, I married a single Mom and adopted my 14-year old daughter right after we married. So I had precedent . After my divorce, my seven year old daughter lives full time with me, and I wouldn't have it any other way. We keep the girls together every weekend, alternating between households. My two relationships in my 3 years of single "Dad-dom" have both been with single Moms, and it was very natural for me to begin to bond with the kids - and that is, as some of y'all have stated, the tough part when you break up - you lose the relationship with the kids, too! The problem - from my end, at least, as many of you single Dads have stated, is that women are just as reluctant to date single Dads as they say men are to date single Moms. I've also posted on the thread: "I am a single dad with custody of both my kids.....why do so many people regard that as baggage??" I just joined POF, and I'm really impressed with the community here - thank you all for sharing! Leo

Joined: 11/17/2005

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I am a single dad with custody of both my kids.....why do so many people regard that as baggage?? Posted: 11/18/2005 12:18:24 PM
Hi, crane_man! Please allow me to thank you for your (nothing short of) inspirational words. I was going to try to build on them, but you've covered the territory so well that I can only say RIGHT ON and "what you said!" Staying the course and holding out for that special someone is so hard sometimes, but I know it will be worth it when the time comes (and my heart and instincts tell me it will). I know from my two relationships I've had in 3 years of single fatherhood that I still have so much to give to the right person - I'm not embittered, just wondering how long it will take . In the meantime, I can enjoy, every waking moment, the joy of raising my wonderful daughter, so how I can I get too down!? Thanks so much once again for telling it like it is! Leo

Joined: 11/17/2005

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I am a single dad with custody of both my kids.....why do so many people regard that as baggage?? Posted: 11/18/2005 8:10:04 AM
Hi, Crunchberries (and everyone else here!) - I'm a full-time single Dad (Houston, TX area) who just joined POF, and this is my first post on these Forums - glad to see them! The subject you've brought up is probably the most relevant (for me) of all the Forum threads - when my divorce was final 3 years ago, and I began my life as a single Dad, all my family and friends were of the opinion that my situation might actually be a plus when it came to dating, because being a single Dad shows that one has a level of caring and nurturing that would be attractive to women. I happen to agree with that, and I wouldn't trade my fatherhood for any other situation imaginable. But, my dating experience has been quite different, and, frankly, I've found that the knife cuts both ways for single parents - women, for all their protestations about guys not wanting to date single Moms, are just as reluctant to date men who have children. Hypocritical? Well, yes. I had my daughter very late in life, so I'm a 49-year old man with a 7-year old daughter - most of the women in my age range have kids either grown and out of the house, or their kids are teenagers, and fairly self-sufficient. So, I fit in my social life on the alternate weekends that my girl is with her mother, or find a trusted sitter. I've also made special arrangements with my little one's mom when I wanted to go out of town, etc. - my adopted 14-year old lives with her, and I think the childrens' mom and I have a very good give-and-take relationship, and always put our children first. So, no problem there. But, I've still felt the sting of the "I don't really want to date a man with a young child" rejection too many times to ignore it. I've come to accept it, but don't pretend to like or understand it. And it's funny - I've met so many single Dads in these three years - it's WAY more prevalent than most people think. Dads get a bum rap way out of proportion to reality from the media, women, etc. I don't know of any solution, but I do appreciate the opportunity to speak up here - thanks so much. Leo

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