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mysticrogue

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Shock Doctrine, a must read book Posted: 10/2/2007 4:19:44 PM
I was listening to NPR the other day and was listening to an interview. The guest was Naomi Klein, and the book is titled "Shock Doctrine". The contents are about a methodology called disaster capitalism. The book starts out by mentioning the effects of Dr. Ewen Cameron of McGill University (Canada). This Psychiatrist wanted to wipe clean (like a clean slate) a "mentally ill" person's personality and start over and develop a healthy well functioning individual. The results were abominable. Results varied: amnesia, adults reduced to an infantile state, and other maligned mental states. The CIA funded this scientist and later on used his "experiments" to torture and interogate people (re: kuBARK manual, MKUltra). The book proceeds on the use of methods involved when the CIA wanted someone to "break". The methods were then used by dictators supported by the U.S.A. against the general population of the despot's country. The book gets better. The methodology of shock and awe and reconstruction are mentioned in Milton Friedman's (University of Chicago School of Economics) teachings and book (Democracy and Freedom). Basically Friedman's philosophy was about free market/unregulated/unrestricted economics. This works well in theory and on paper but is deemed very unpractical. It calls for the use of economic shock and awe to go from Keynsian or socialist or developmentalist ecomomy to that of Freidman's free market economy. In short, regimes like Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, were countries that utilized this dismal form of economics. This led to high unemplyment, hyper inflation, not to forget kidnappings, torture and killings. Eventually Poland and Russia were the next to fall prey to this misguided practise. In short, only the few benefit and the vast majority are made to suffer cruelty and misery. Heck all you have to do is listen to what is going on in Myanmar (formerly Burma). It is a keen observer that will see through the disinformation (yes, economists and the capitalistic magazines call tyrants like Pinochet (Chile), Galtieri (Argentina), Yeltsin (Russia), etc. heroes). The reader will see how the Dr. Cameron's failed criminally tragic psychiatric experiments get used by the CIA, who in turn train the world's dictators. The processes are used by the U of Chicago Free Market consultants ( the Chicago Boys) to lead leaders of foreign nations paths to riches and dictatorships. This is just so that Wall Street can benefit from it all. Today we see this happening in Iraq. Unfortunately for the "corporatists", the Iraqi people are not falling for this and are giving the occupiers of their country one heck of a battle. This is a must read book. This is in the same mold as John Perkin's Confessions of an Ecomoic Hit Man. By the way, there is a sequal coming out from John Perkins. It is also another must read. From what I recall, the book may have been titled "America's Dark Empire". Please note, this is not a work of fiction nor conspiracy theory, but actual nightmarish and hellish events. Please note the irony in this. Milton Friedman was a friend of Richard Nixon. Trouble is, Nixon wanted to be re-elected and not overthrown by his "fellow Americans". Nixon replied to Friedman: I guess we are Keynesians after all. Reagan, who also touted the Friedman philosophy knew he could only go so far as a Free Market catalyst, and he also wanted to be re-elected. Hmm. Funny how Geo. HW Bush called Reaganomics voodoo economics. I guess the hidden menaing may have been that the US constituency would have fallen to the samee tortureous philosophy. My opinion: Milton Freidman's book and philosophy are just plain impractical, unless you want to be a wealthy dictator. Unregulated free markets and democracy do not mingle. The last time we had an absolute free market ecomomy, it led to the Great Depression. In the end, it is the Keynesian Philosophy (government intervention to keep unemployement low and inflation low or at least under control, regulation included also ) that is the prefered model. Let us discuss this topic.

mysticrogue

Joined: 11/17/2005

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Now it starts getting interesting Posted: 6/5/2007 5:50:28 PM
Ever since Russia quit being communist and became a "western" like capital power, who is to say that their missles do not have "western" technology. How do we know that in these new, more "accurate", missles do not have "Intel inside"?. After all, wasn't it Toshiba or another company that gave the Russians silent propeller tech for the subs? Just an example. Think about it, they can strip an electronic toy or computer and exploit it for their uses. These are very smart people. Wasn't the F117 Nighthawk designed by an "electrical" engineer by using a Russian mathematician's paper. The F117 was referred to as the"hopeless diamond". Come on...do your homework!

mysticrogue

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reason for Iraq war Posted: 6/5/2007 5:35:38 PM
reason for Iraq war Posted: 6/5/2007 526 PM mysticrogue, Learn your Geography and History.... oh... and the meaning of Jihad. Then....only then... will you fully understand what's going on. ========== Oh Please.... I know what is going on. Jihad, the greater and lesser are such: Lesser Jihad is the struggle in the defense of your family/community/country/etc. Greater Jihad is the internal struggle with in (according to the muslim faith, we are all struggling with our internal divine and demonic "selves") . By the way, the wealthy elites put greed over safety. If the greedy elites would have allowed the shah of Iran to nationlaize his oil, we would not have the ayatollahs in control, nor Mahmoud Aminajad. The Shah was a successful project the CIA did. He was put into power by them. So this is a sampling of what the greedy eastern establishment can do. On a given day, the CIA meeting looks like a Yale Skull & Bones class reunion. (yep, these hucksters are the elite's eyes and ears) Due to the US elite's meddling inother countries' foreighn affairs, our innocent citrizens are put at risk, and our brothers & sisters who serve in the US military are put in constant peril. So please, do not tell me that I do not know what is going on....

mysticrogue

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reason for Iraq war Posted: 6/5/2007 5:14:39 PM
definately b & d. Macht Nicht...leave the drugged Kool Aid alone!

mysticrogue

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If the President Bush was assasinated while traveling in a foriegn country would you be shocked ? Posted: 6/5/2007 5:04:38 PM
I would be shocked...a real Devil would be in office: D1ck Cheney. Can you say WW III? I can see the US bombing Iran. Yeah, that will really set things inmotion. Wait!!, this retard would start the arms race with Russia and really piss them off, then we really have WW III. Even if GWB & Cheney were knocked off, the Eastern Establishmnet elite will still have a large pool of puppets to control the office. Never under estimate this national cancer that is in our country. For great detail, please read: The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush. Boy Neocons are really brain dead and stupid!!

mysticrogue

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Then what? Posted: 6/5/2007 4:56:18 PM
The middle eastern people have reasons not to trus the USA. If the Saudi family were to go side with the majoristy, the USA would fragment that country into 3 countries, with the most loyal portion given to the pro US faction. By the way, the wealthy Wahabi element is what funds the terrorosts.

mysticrogue

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Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors Posted: 5/31/2007 5:32:47 PM
For those evil people, I would say a pen1s and scr0tum removal, ala guillotine. Fast & cheap, and oh, place them in a highly rcrowded prison and let the other inmates know they have company.

mysticrogue

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Why Have Christians Lost Their Jewish Roots? Posted: 5/30/2007 5:47:58 PM
Christianity should really be called "Paulianity". Saul of Tarsus, later Paul, created this institution. It became the behemoth that it is thanks to the Imperial Roman governement under Constantine. Jesus, like John the Baptist, were Jews that followed Nazarite (Mandaen?) rites that were absorbed into their Essene (Jewish) sect. There was an ancient concept of the Trinity, it only involved just God. Think 3 aspects of the same deity: God the creator, God the Sustainer, God the director. the Egyptians had their idea: Osiris, Isis, Horus.

mysticrogue

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George Bush's world Posted: 5/30/2007 5:31:24 PM
Come on guys! Be easy on the marioanette, oops, er i mean the Pres. ofthe USA. He only is doing what his Eastern Elite/Skull & Bone handlers are telling him to do. The people behind his election and his fathers were excellent hood winkers and bamboozlers who took pages out of Tricky D1ck's school of political mischief. Anyone seen THE GOOD SHEPERD. The CIA is the eyes and ears of the powerful elite. On an given day, a meeting of the CIA looks like a Yale/Skull& Bones class reunion. If you REAAAAAAAAAALLLY want a to peek at what GWB's world really is, read The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush. The elites are VERY sick and deeply disturbed puppies. These are very depraved and morally bankrupt people. Yep, grand pap Prescott Bush financed the Nazis, made a bundle, and ensured his family's place in the world of the ludicrously powerful & ridiculously rich. By the way, the Bush legacy is still alive aand well, they believe in sterilizing vast portions of the world. Heck, one of the companies funded by the Bush family was IG FARBIN, the company that had a hand in those building and or equpping of the Nazi Death Camps. By the way these same rascals (GHWB & family) own the United Fruit Company which virtually controls Central/Latin American plantations, calls the shots on the foreign countries, aand virtually enslaves those populations...hmmm American interests? No private unethical/avrice interests. Good golly, the Tory/Pro British/anti American public enemies are on our beloved US shores. Most of you guys are too blind to notice. I say this to you all, WAKE UP and reclaim your country!!!

mysticrogue

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I hate memorial day - you need to read this thread! Posted: 5/30/2007 5:10:02 PM
My deepest regards go to all men and women in uniform, and especially those who pay the ultimate sacrifice. Unfortunately, this is a "day of remembrance" that has to be marked on the calendar. We must never forget the huge debt owed to those that never came back, and to those that are among us but have never quite returned and are suffering a private hell. My anger is directed to those elites who cause/instigate wars and profit from them: The Rothschildes, Prescott S. Bush and others(skull&boner/eastern elites). Once you open your eyes and see the huge set up and rotten global game, it really boils your blood. Enuff said, my respect and salute goes to the troops: past /present/future.

mysticrogue

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bring our troops home Posted: 5/30/2007 4:50:35 PM
Bush sees South Korea model for Iraq http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070530/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_iraq;_ylt=AngbjtdLguI9KLW4JxGeT76MwfIE WASHINGTON - President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq similar to the one in South Korea where American forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years, the White House said Wednesday. The comparison was offered as the Pentagon announced the completion of the troop buildup ordered by Bush in January. The last of about 21,500 combat troops to arrive were an Army brigade in Baghdad and a Marine unit heading into the Anbar province in western Iraq. Brig. Gen. Perry Wiggins, deputy director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said there are now 20 combat brigades in Iraq, up from 15 when the buildup began. A brigade is roughly 3,500 troops. Overall, the Pentagon said there are 150,000 U.S. troops in Iraq. That number may still climb as more support troops move in. The administration warns that the buildup will result in more U.S. casualties as more American soldiers come into contact with enemy forces. May already is the third bloodiest month since the war began in March 2003. As of late Tuesday, there were 116 U.S. deaths in Iraq so far in May — trailing only the 137 in November 2004 and the 135 in April 2004. Overall, more than 3,460 U.S. service members have died. Presidential spokesman Tony Snow said Bush has cited the long-term Korea analogy in looking at the U.S. role in Iraq, where American forces are in the fifth year of an unpopular war. Bush's goal is for Iraqi forces to take over the chief security responsibilities, relieving U.S. forces of frontline combat duty, Snow said. "I think the point he's trying to make is that the situation in Iraq, and indeed, the larger war on terror, are things that are going to take a long time," Snow said. "But it is not always going to require an up-front combat presence." Instead, he said, U.S. troops would provide "the so-called over-the-horizon support that is necessary from time to time to come to the assistance of the Iraqis. But you do not want the United States forever in the front." The comparison with South Korea paints a picture of a lengthy U.S. commitment at a time when Americans have grown weary of the Iraq war and want U.S. troops to start coming home. Bush vetoed legislation that would set timetables for U.S. troop withdrawals, and forced Congress to approve a new bill stripped of troop pullout language. Asked if U.S. forces would be permanently stationed in Iraq, Snow said, "No, not necessarily." He said that the prospect of permanent U.S. bases in Iraq were "not necessarily the case, either." Later, Snow said it was impossible to say if U.S. troops would remain in Iraq for some 50 years, as they have in South Korea. "I don't know," he said. "It is an unanswerable question. But I'm not making that suggestion. ... The war on terror is a long war." South Korea is just one example of U.S. troops stationed more than a half-century after war. Germany and Japan are two other examples. American forces are deployed in roughly 130 countries around the world, performing a variety of duties from combat to peacekeeping to training foreign militaries, according to GlobalSecurity.org, a defense-oriented think tank. In South Korea, about 29,500 U.S. troops are stationed as a deterrent against the communist North, but that number is to decline to 24,500 by 2008 as part of the Pentagon's worldwide realignment of its forces. The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 Korean War ended in a cease-fire, not a peace treaty. Adm. William Fallon, the top U.S. commander in the Middle East, seemed a surprising choice when he got the job earlier this year, yet his experience as U.S. commander in the Pacific overseeing the Korean peninsula would serve him well if the U.S. military adopts a Korea model in Iraq. ___ AP writer Lolita C. Baldor contributed to this report from the Pentagon. ------------------------------------- I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but this looks rather permanent. Are we looking at a Middle Eastern "Guantanamo"? Boy, we sure are going to be really popular as a nation within a war weary world. Got to love them war mongering, tax dollar wasting, national credit ruining Republicans!

mysticrogue

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Congress Allocates More Funding for War in Iraq Posted: 5/29/2007 8:03:36 AM
Hmmm, like the old Roman empire, we are spending way too much money on conflict that "we" caused, and are now spread very thin. Hmm, I wonder who the new "Germanic Horde" will be (for all you shmucks out there, these are the rascals that put an end to the Roman Empire, which by the way collpase from within--due to greed and power hungry avarice)

mysticrogue

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Bush grants presidency extraordinary powers Posted: 5/25/2007 4:41:01 PM
If those places even do exist, they should be dismantled. Martial law could not possibly happen here. Foreign troops would be picked and killed by every yahoo in the country. Also, every emperor that has tried to stay in power in ancient Rome was always overthrown. thank God for stupity and greed. Dictators are doomed to fail. Nazi Germany did not last either, although it was financed by Senator Prescott Bush and others. Funny though, PS. Bush did have racist philosophy about ridding "undesirables". His UBC Bank did help a company called IG Farben which did supply material for concentration camps and may have had a hand in the building of that gruesome and evil infrastructure. Hmmm, maybe there is some credence here... New meaning to the term Merchants of Death. Well, any one hear about the book, The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush. Please start to read it. It will give you a solid idea what crap the people in Andover Massachusetts have been feeding young wealthy kids minds. Also the Skull & Bones is a very powerful enitity. This org. was financed by people involved in the drug a(opium) and slave trade. The Russel Trust. About scum bags nurturing the young elite's minds: Garbage in, garbage out. It is pretty funny the crap they makes these kids go through, then on how to manipulate them as they get older. If a America falls, it will be because of irresponsible leadership and will be doomed to collapse from within. America can choose one of 2 paths: Stability and care for its citizens, like ancient Egypt, and last for thousands of years. Or become a selfish and corrupt tyranny doomed to fail like imperial and ancient Rome.

mysticrogue

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bring our troops home Posted: 5/25/2007 3:51:31 PM
^^^^ Jacobite, I agree with what you are saying. Americans should vote. And said voters have better start using their grey matter. America's army is the best and highly educated and professional in the world. Unfortunately, the armed services are at a breaking point and are not being utlized as they should be. These are your top brass's quotes. Blame it on our boy emperor GWB). I say restore the benefits of our troops, give them pay raise(s), and increase money for training, training, training. As for the high tech toys, just pare the number to what is pay as you go. The dem's do not have a large enough majority, and the repubs are still hoping their leader can pull a miracle out. But many among the GOP are starting to weary and are getting well aware of how there political future will be...hence they might even start start talking and vote along with the dem's on the pull out issue. My gut instinct is the GWB will jump the gun. He will get impatient with the Iranians, who they themselves are tiring of Mahmoud Aminajad and want a more rational and pragmatic leader. The ayatollahs may not be safe sacred cows iether. Ithink the masses will start to revolt and over throw their tyranny. But I have a gut feeling GWB will not wait, probably invade and nuke Iran, and will then have every frigging middle easterner against us. The ayatollahs will win hands down. Or we might have WWIII, the Russians might side withthe Iranians. The Chinese's will grow in prestige by playing as the diplomats and hence increasing their influence. Their influnce is already starting to grow. They are helping African and other asians countries. Wheereas our CIA/Skull&Bones/Eastern elite establishment sees nothing more than to use/exploit/destroy other people of other nations. Or... A forecaster named John Hoag said this might be a generational occupation. I recall some one saying this: I love my country, but fear my government. Well I have this to say: People should not fear their governement, the government should fear its people. That my freind is a Republic with its constitutional ideals intact! My prediction...the President will stay on his silly agenda, his reputation and popularity will fall all the way to an all time low. The problem will fall into the next dumb @ss, er, I mean the next President. The Iraqi's are like typical Arabs, place way tooo much emphasis on religion and will really never have a truly secular government. (in this case, I do not blame eastern elites for thinking some people are complete idiots and should not be allowed to propagate).

mysticrogue

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bring our troops home Posted: 5/25/2007 12:10:41 PM
You say "lower and middling class" (sp to you) ... it makes me wonder what you think about my son and his buddies ... are they lower? are they "middling" as you say? Have you been to Iraq or Afghanistan? Do you know how great these young men are? Do you know that they are willing to give their lives for you? Because they believe in freedom? Do ya know that? I don't think you do. Be greatful! Is what i have to say to you. You better thank your lucky stars that you have these young men doing everything in their power to make sure that you stay free, meaning having the right to spout off as you do. Because, you don't want to live as the Iraqi's or Afghans do. You are a lucky SOB to have Freedom of Speech. Once again i say ... Thank your Troops for all they do! ================== Lower and middling is the way the British would say the Lower (ie working class), middling is the middle class. The war has been over. There is only a military occupation. The US has caused the Iraqi leader to fall, get arrested and allowed for rather quick trial and execution. To me that sgnifies mission accomplished. What we have is a military occupation that is getting very unpopular with the American populace. We pretty much overstayed our stay and are no longer welcomed. So why are we still there? Very likely for oil. Very likely corporate giants and other elitesare what call the shots. Even the children of Americans are starting to percieve our government as a bully against other countried. If our younger kids see what is going on and state things for what they are, why are you not as clear minded and clear thinking? I pretty much support the troops. What I do not trust and totally abhor, are the elites who hide behind the cloak of patriotism, hoodwink & bamboozle the masses, use and abuse our military (and the taxpayer), and just accumulate wealth at the expense of the noble warriors who pay the ultimate price. If you want to get a good glimpse at the abominable state of affairs, please read the Unauthorized Biography of George Bush. The CIA is nothing more than a Skull and Bones organization which pretty much is eyes and ears for the elite. On a given day, any CIA meeting appears like S& B Yale class reunion. When are some of you gusy (and gals) wise up?

mysticrogue

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SPP, NAFTA, NAU ~ Why? Posted: 5/24/2007 5:30:16 PM
All North Americans will be collectively screwed and sodomized. Heck, I can see it now, the birth of "I-69". This union will be a nightmare. What America should should do is rebuild its industrial infrastructure. China is taking care of its own people, and they are a billion. India will soon emerge as a another giant. We have a few piddly 3oo million and we can not even protect our own economy. It is our leadership that bites the BIG ONE (as the SNL comedians would say). Ex: Korea, Japan, China build the most merchant marine vessels. WHY!?!?! are we not among the top? We allow selfish idiots get into power.

mysticrogue

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Congress Allocates More Funding for War in Iraq Posted: 5/24/2007 5:16:25 PM
Montreal Guy, You're off base on this one. IMHO, Congress should have stood their ground regardless if a veto was forthcoming. Why not? At least they would have shown the people who voted for them that they were good for their word. It's never a waste of time to stand up for one's beliefs. ============= Machts, The dem's did and tried. But our boy emperor, oops, I mean our US President is stuck on stupid and will never admit he screwed up. If you ever get the chance, read up on "The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush". Although itis written with GHWB in mind, it gives you a solid idea what these nightmarish freaks are capable of. The USA is no longer that Republic that the founding fathers wanted it to be. It is much closer to imperial Rome, with the Anglophiles wanting to playthat same game. Oh, by all means read this opus. It gives you a great insight how these people were raised and bred. Imagine people operating soley of their Limbic System, the "reptile brain" ,( controls aggression, lust and territory). Imagine people raised to be selfish, self righteous and racist. These people are truly creepy. The trouble is, there are hundreds of well placed people who think like them in positions of power. Dorothy, you are no longer in Kansas anymore. Once you open your eyes, you will find out you are in a totally different planet than the one mom and dad weaned you on.

mysticrogue

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Iraq is too dangerous for Prince Henry...WTF Posted: 5/24/2007 5:04:47 PM
Here is the Ultimate Solution. Develop mechatronic soldiers, combat robots, sort of the "proto-Terminators". Only one problem, they would not distinguish freind from foe and wind up killing everything in sight. Then again, isn't that how the wars were fought in "biblical times"? Isn't Iraq one of them biblical countries? If HMH Prince Harold wants to serve, let him do so discreetly, without any fanfare and no news leakage. No one has to know if he is there or not, and he gets the benefit of serving next to his fellow man. Sheesh, I should be paid to think for the mentally impaired. hey, establishment, hear that.

mysticrogue

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bring our troops home Posted: 5/21/2007 2:27:29 PM
lovingit, I worry about people like you. There is no glory in war. It is a mess that those of the lower and middling classes volunteer to fight. I have the gut feeling many of these brave and noble warriors fell because they were used as chess pieces by greedy members of society who really want to do away with constitution and end your God given rights our forefathers fought so hard to create and protect. These "Skull and Boners" want to create a Plutocracy which would emulate a "caste" system. What an abhorrent and dismal world that would be. In fact, that would turn our country into an abomination on par with Nazi Germany. By the way, Nazi Germany was helped out by two very clever financiers, George Walker and Prescott Bush. Hmmm familiar names. We are surely losing influence and credibility by not using more patience and diplomatic means. If we utlize patience, we will witness the fall of the Mahmoud Aminajad (sp) regime in Iran, and the installation of a much more rational and pragmatic governement. The Iranian people do not want to get nuked. What we have is a costly and painful fiasco reminiscent of Vietnam. This is the legacy of the GWB presidency in which he will be remembered. The one country that is actually becoming increasingly wealthy and inflential is China. AND they are NOT in any war! Heck, they are mortgaging our country! The current US presidency should be made accountable for his stupidity. I say charge him with treason. Imagine, it took one President (FDR) to turn our country into a superpower, and 3 presidents to weaken it (Ronald Reagan, Geo HW Bush & Geo. W. Bush). How sad.... I know some neocon clown is going to comment. If anyone has seen The Good Shepherd, a theater goer will see that the Russians were doomed to fail long before RR took office. The RR (as well as GB I & II) regime got us into fiscal irresponsibility that many generations will have to repay. Our bullying and saber rattling is going to make us a much more lonelier nation. And a a poorer and increasinly less industrial one. Or machine shops/tool and dies shops are closing. By the way, the countries that produce the most merchant marine vessels are : Korea, Japan and China. We are no longer on top. Why should our ship yards be empty and some one else making those vessels. Truly, these Neocons have thus weakend our country. We should restore and repair our industrial infrastructure. We have 2 more years to weather this insane roller coaster ride. WHY?! do I feel that these 3,000 plus souls gave their lives in vain? I am bitter at the rich scoundrels who are profiting from all this and needlessly fool the masses. I say let saner minds get involved and have our sons and daughters come home.

mysticrogue

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/18/2007 5:21:36 PM
Mein freund, The date was alluded to by Carl Sagan. Perhaps any of the above events may have been the demise ofthis library.

mysticrogue

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4th Amendment: Say Bye Bye! US/FEMA Prison Camps On US Soil to Hold US Citizens!! Posted: 5/16/2007 5:36:43 PM
Silly tin foil hatter. Tons of things keep me up at night. The shrinking middle class, the environmental damage we're doing, the quagmire that is afghanistan. The fact that a fifth of the world lives on less than a dollar a day. Your haircut in that picture. The lack of voter turn out in Canada. Child and Adult Obesity epidemics. You know what the difference is? These all exist. Reptilian aliens and secret overlords? They don't. Why would they have to? The rich have the WTO. =========== Tsk, tsk, Tsk Chuck, er ...Charles. No need for the name calling or to get bent out of shape. By the way, what med's are you taking or what kind of marijuana are you smoking. I do not know anything about Reptoids, or aliens. Leave that stuff to David Icke. I am refering to more "down to planet Earth" stuff. Skull and Bones are real. So are the Bilderburgers, they even had a meeting in Ontario Canada not too long ago. CFR & TC are also real entities and even publish their magazines. Wake up. And smell the coffee. It is naysayers like you that pretty much allowed people like Hitler's Third Reich to control Germany and create themost horrific nightmares of the 20th century. Who says a similar thing can not happen here. We allow a 'well packaged/marketed' individuals like GWB, D1ck Cheney and others to control us and erode our constitution. I am beginning to think you are not as clever or astute as you make your self out to be. You babble stupid and silly put downs instead of sharing proper and intelligent discource. Please grow up and develop a more sophisticated means to get your point across. Or is that too difficult? If you believe in the Easter bunny or Santa Claus, that is up to you. I for one, just like our men in uniform, no longer trust the popular media (FOX, etc.) One has to sift through the data and seperate the informational wheat from the chaff. That means read up on material that has been well researched and references well archived material. Read up on stuff by Chalmers Johnson, John Perkins, Carroll Quigly, Andre Michael Eggeletion, EG Griffin.

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/16/2007 4:50:56 PM
During the Inquisiton, the library a Alexandria, Egypt was destroyed... Punic wars. Was the Vatican around then? ============== Actually the Library of Alexandria was laid to waste around the time of Hypatia, a Geek woman philospher, murder , c.415 AD. For all the Details see... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia_of_Alexandria

mysticrogue

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Why do stunning women go for geeks Posted: 5/11/2007 8:03:42 PM
Perhaps some gals want to simply hang out and be with a smart witty and entertaining guy. A geek need not look like Steve Urkel or Robert Carradine's Lou Skolinick character. The lead singer of the band BOSTON went to MIT and studied Electrical Engineering. Sting was an English teacher from what I heard. Come to think of it, there are attractive and very smart people who wind up in Hollywood and play the part of comedies as goofy & funny characters. Maybe it is simply this, a geek will take the time to communicate with the person of the opposite sex. Communication is the key.

mysticrogue

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/11/2007 7:38:05 PM
Ok here it is is for the lazy to follow up: Br. Michael Diamond website http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/ Books by Fr. Malachi Martin: http://www.starharbor.com/fr_martin/index1.html Vatican, The Final Conclave, Hostage to the Devil, The Jesuits, The Keys of This Blood, and Windswept House. Fr. Gabriele Amorth: http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features/framorth_excerpt2_aug04.asp An Exorcist Tells His Story An Exorcist: More Stories

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/11/2007 7:05:32 PM
Google Fr. Malachi Martin, Br. Michael Diamond, and for added kicks add Fr. Gabriele Amorth (sp). No, I will not do your work for you. If you post a claim that you say comes from the internet, ie someone's webpage, the least you should do is provide a link. =========== OH ...MY...GOD!!! If you want to know something, look it up. Sheesh. Do not get lazy. If some one gave me an author and/or title, that is all I need for my search. ANd, no, I will not do the work for you. There is google, and yahoo!, use them. Or do what I do, go to Borders and buy the book(s).

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The Motor City!! Will it ever be great again? Posted: 5/9/2007 4:51:24 PM
Sorry Tinman,Detroit does not rate as a Terrorist target. The likley places to get nuked by a terrorost bomb are: NYC, Chicago, Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston. What Detroit needs is a far better mayor. Kwame Kilpatrick is too green and corrupt. He is a thug/hip hop mayor. We need another like Dennis Archer. But I am convince the "85%" that comprise that certain part of the population of Detroit are extremely brain dead.

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/9/2007 4:41:26 PM
Please post a link to Martin's website, as it may prove to offer more insight on the subject. It seems that you are saying he is making a lot of claims about the clergy, yet you offer no evidence, either through your own findings, or by referring to his evidence, if any. ======= Google Fr. Malachi Martin, Br. Michael Diamond, and for added kicks add Fr. Gabriele Amorth (sp).

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4th Amendment: Say Bye Bye! US/FEMA Prison Camps On US Soil to Hold US Citizens!! Posted: 5/9/2007 4:33:08 PM
Dear sweet Charles, youhave notread up onthe Skull and Bones. Please be very informed. These people are powerful and ruthless. Believing what you believe, if it will make you sleep better at night. I for one am very inquisitive and read up on a lot of non fiction political/economic and well researched books. The current state of affiars looks abysmally scary from an observer point of you. Please donot believe what you hear and read in the POPULAR media. This is an advise given by veteran US soldiers. They also say the current Iraqi war is a complete waste of money. Some call it the cheese war sincethey know the priviledge elite are making tons of cash.

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4th Amendment: Say Bye Bye! US/FEMA Prison Camps On US Soil to Hold US Citizens!! Posted: 5/8/2007 8:18:03 PM
With the skull and bones deeply infiltrating the government and the courts, we are becoming a Plutocracy. A dream for some, and a nightmare to many. America is slowing becoming a feudal state, one that will make the old Soviet Union look like a daycare center. Dorothy, you are no longer in Kansas, ... but on a totally different planet.

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/8/2007 8:11:42 PM
lar' I agree, that these crimes are not new. What I am reffering to is that Fr. Malachi says that these very errant clergy are now committingthese crimes as part of blatantly satanic rituals. What Fr. Malachi is sayingis that eventually the Church will cease being this trusted institution and become a "wh@re of babylon", ie. a corrupted congregation /heirarchy. Infiltrated by the very enemies of faith. It is said that the followers of God will go "underground", ie avoid persecution. . Again, Fr. Malachi's words.

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/8/2007 6:12:51 PM
So... christ told you that it was better to pray in your closet than to go to church and pray.... yet you are still bickering over wich church is right. Lame. ============ Quit the flaming. I could care less what religion one follows. What I wanted to share was the alleged sad state of affairs that is going on. ASSUMING if what Fr. Martin Malachi is saying is true. I read that the excorcism rituals have been weakened due to the new protocol that priests now have to follow. Hey do not take my words for this, read up on what some of the excorcists have been writing. Some still use the olden ways. This world is not this happy place you think it is.... Sorry Dorothy, you are no longer in Kansas. If you really open your eyes, you will find we are on a different planet than the one you grew up in.

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Are Christians the only ones going to Heaven??? Posted: 5/8/2007 5:53:06 PM
No. You can be a fanatic bible thumper and burn in hell. You can be a devout muslim, jew, buddhist, and as long as you love your neighbor, ie. treat all with respect and at times with charity, you will be in paradise. By the way, Jesus was never a christian, he was a very devout jew and a patriotic israelite. Jesus Christ, or shall we say Y'shua ben Yosif was an Essene who was practicing "Nazorite" rituals. Likley was engaged in learning from the Mandaens who very likely introduced the practice of Baptism. Jesus had a lovefor the outcasts and the poor. Though of Royal blood, he was of the Davidic dynasty, he was a maverick of his time. Sort of a Che Guevara figure. The bible is written in "pesher' mode, ie. a way of saying 'tone down' the story. Other wise it would read like a story of a Sumerian prince, Abraham, who would eventually be the father of a line of middle eastern nobles. It would look like a saga of a royal family. By the way, why are the Scottish kings and nobles called Jacobites: Jesus had a brother, Jacov (or Jacob, latin Iacobus, spanish Iago, later James). James, later became the ancestor of the Briton/Scot line of nobles.

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Did Lucifer hijack the Vatican? Posted: 5/8/2007 5:36:09 PM
People, Last weekend, I was listening to the Art Bell Show and heard this monk, Brother Michael Diamond, say that the Vatican now has a "false pope". I heard he said that Vatican II was a farce, and that the latin Tridentine mass is what we should follow. That led me eventually to a Fr. Malachi Martin website. In that site, there is mention of afictionlized account of what really happeded in the Vatican in the mid 1970's. Imagine, Satanic rituals and sodomy perpetrated among clergy and inncent children. The book is called, a Windswept House. These odious rituals took place in St. Pauls chapel in Rome. I heard it is a dark and spooky place to begin with. When asked if really evil people had infiltrated the Vatican, Fr. Martin said yes. Get a load of this, Pope Paul VI was assassinated by a French cardinal. Cardinal Villot? This is some pretty heavy and spooky sh1t! I wish this was all a movie screen play. By the way, according to a prophet: Saint Malachi, we have one more pope to go: Peter the Roman. If you all think I am kidding, read Fr. Malachi's stuff. I would like to hear what you all have to say.

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JFK solved! E howard Hunt Deathbed Confession... Posted: 5/8/2007 3:59:02 PM
'goodguy, I respect you for your love and support of the USA. But...., if you really do your homework and follow the "money", you will know that the Skull and Boners could care less about people like you and me. These are greedy power hungry people who have a common interest: make tons of cash, use connections, and screw every one else. And yes, there is tons of documneted proof that George Walker and Prescott Bush were Nazi collaborators. Heck, they made a mint out of manipulating the Germans. By the way, Skull and Bones started out as chapter of an elitist German secret society. Chapter 322. Goodguy, you are what I call "an innocent of God". Naive and innocent. The world is not what you think it is. By the way neither is the Vatican. Read up on Father Malachi Martin on that topic. As far as the POPULAR media (FOX, Reuters, etc.), many soldiers I knew have said, do not believe what you read and hear. To get a good idea of the world situation, read up on: Creature From Jekyll island Thieves in the Temple Confessions of an Economic Hit Man Tragedy and Hope may as well as add these: Blowback Sorrows of Empire Once you open your eyes, you will never see the world the same way again. Remember this phrase very well: In the land of the blind, the one eyed rule. Or as Jesus Christ said: Be as wise as serpents.

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Guys that cry.....Good or bad? Posted: 2/10/2007 2:42:06 AM
Unfortunately, society frowns on men and women who cry. As in the work place. In those cases, it is best to mourn silently. Yeah the show of being stoic is supposedly socially acceptable. But what happens when someone does some evil to your family,...being tearless" might even make you suspect numero uno...the heartless killer? I say if you are gonna weep, just get it over with. Now if a man weeps at the drop of a hat, well...BE A MAN!! QUIT YER CRYING!!!

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Guys that cry.....Good Posted: 2/3/2007 10:02:30 PM
It depends on the context. Some men are moved when they hear a lady singer sing a "swan song" in a tragedy. Yeah, I have heard Italian mobsters go to an opera and shed a tear. Some men men do it because they are sensitive to another person sad tale of woe. They can get misty eyed. Then there are those men, wholost loved ones or comrades either in battle or in a terrible in your face tragedy, 9/11, some with hold it in and some will drown their sorrows in alcohol, but in the end, either in privarte, or privately with an esteemd and extremely trustworthy soul, will eventually let it all out. I have seen pictures of WWII, Kora and "Nam vets shed a tear as they hug an appreciative hug, to modern day Gulf War Vets who lost both legs/and arm/and an eye and now is using artifial limbs to go to living a normal life. Yeah, heroes of the previous war have broken down seeing a busted up and mangled person be a survivor and making an effort to live as normal as possible. Those are tears of appreciation. You "John Wayne" types may never know that and keep up the false bravado. Why do heroes weep for the mangled survivors or for the fallen? An old Special Forces saying goeslike this: You have't lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor all its own, the protected will never know. When you are at a bar and see a combat vet brooding by himself, remember to silently buy him a drink and nod, as if silenlty saying ' you have my support'. Nuff said....

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Bush's Petro-Cartel Almost Has Iraq's Oil Posted: 1/28/2007 12:49:56 PM
The taxpayer foots the bill. The armed forces pay with their blood and sanity. The civilians and combatants alike in two countries have paid with their blood, and their children's future health. And the rich still get richer because of it, and the common man sees a net loss. The rest of the world who see's this for the insanity that it is, are dismissed via fallacy and journal-tainment epithets. And the rich get richer, and the dumb get dumber, and the myopic become blinder. ===================== In the land of the blind, the one eye'ed are the rulers.

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Men don't like TALL women Posted: 1/27/2007 11:46:09 AM
All this talk of dislike is nothing but malarkey and tomfoolery. It is just preference. I may see a hottie that is 5'5" but will by pass her for a saucy wench thatis 5'9" or taller. I have always dug tall women. Who knows, maybe it is a bigger butt, bigger breasts bigger hands, bigger feet...who the hell knows. Anyways, one should not get obsessed over anything, lest you will become like that Lord of the Rings character called Gollum: Precious, precious, precious.... creepy.. (shudder)

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Why do stunning women go for geeks Posted: 1/22/2007 11:13:51 PM
To all you Geeks and Nerds out there, Marilyn Monroe thought Albert Einstein was sexy because of his brain. Being brainy can be very entertaining if you know how to wield it. Not all geeks look like Steve Urkel. There are a few that I know who are super intelligent, are considrered very attractive and play in Rock and Roll bands. So yes, we geeks come in all flavors. So all you gorgeous women,,,come (cu.m?) and sample us!

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I'm 30, own my own home, have a full time job, and am very loving! Why am I alone?? Posted: 1/22/2007 10:56:32 PM
Subject: I'm 30, own my own home, have a full time job, and am very loving! Why am I alone?? ===================== I am all of the above, but I am loving it. Never dwell on this question. My advice, never apologoize, never feel any guilt. Strive for happiness, whatever it may be: Position in society Wealth Start a family Whatever. But under NO circumstance never ever feel guilty....

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does pot make you horny? Posted: 1/16/2007 8:39:05 PM
Pot and sex do not mix well for me. If I was with a pot smoker..she will put me to sleep. Marijuana has a sleepy effect on me.

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Why do stunning women go for geeks Posted: 1/16/2007 8:22:28 PM
My advise to all the NERDS, do a complete makeover and ... become a chic geek. A blend of Einstein with "Van Wilder" thrown in for good measure. But beware...you do not want to become like Jim Morrison: A genius IQ, party aniimal , but dead before your time is do.

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whats with women and harleys? Posted: 1/14/2007 1:18:41 AM
I liked it when only the Outlaw bikers rode them. HD's were cheap and plentiful. Now due to Mr. Forbes, every Tom, d!ckless, and Harriet owns one. Ever here the old adage: If everyone does the chic thing, it aint cool anymore. Now there is a ludicrous aftermarket. I have seen at Meijers HD boots go for over $120 . If I see the exact same boot minus the HD logo it will sell cheaper. Therefore I would by the STERILE boot, or clothing for that matter. I would rather buy a Schott brand Perfecto leather with no logo rather than am=n HD logo laether jacket. One, I would be supporting an American made, Union label, how much more patriotic...and Schott sells leathers that are known for protecting the rider also the Lost Worlds Inc. leathers too. Yes thick steer or cowhide will take the full brunt in a skid/scrape...forget the thin lambskin jackets (oh I forgot, you are what you wear...aren't some condoms made of lamb skin...(quote taken from the author of Lost Worlds Inc.)) Back to the topic. I love HD's. And I will till I meet the Creator. That is all I heard when growing up. I have seen these modern day Ghenghis Khans ride on their 2 wheeled iron stallions. No mufflers, just straight exhaust pipes.. God I love that sound. Yeah, I grew up in a tough town and still live there..Detroit MI...you either love it or hate it. As the local denizens say: Detroit, if you are not from here, LEAVE. If you were born here, you deserve it. You got to love a town with that kind of humor. Due to Hollywood and society, we have been bred to think of HD riders as outlaws and hoods. That is not the case. The vast majority work in factories and in machine shops. maybe it is the "danger" element. Nothing angers a biker when they see a p#ssy trailer hitch their bike and not ride it. I hear the complaints from them allll the friggin' time with regards to those Yuppie owners. Then you have the overpaid Hollywood poseur wannabees trying to act like they are the real deal. I laugh all the time when they say the wrong thing and get their @ss beat. I say who the F#ck cares.. Buy that bike, ride it till it starts to fall apart. Either keep it maintained or buy another and ride it till it falls apart. A true biker is known by how much they love their machine..they are the ones who rack up the most mileage out of their bikes. Also you would have to pry the motorcycle from their cold dead hands. A true biker does not buy a bike as an investment. Just the f#cking sissy @ssed yuppies. The biker is known by his war stories on that bike...the on the rode fix its, the riding through the elements (the weather and all that jazz). Their war stories reek of those Jack Keroac (sp) tales. Hence the comradrie...the I hear ya dude. It is almost like a brotherhood. The women will never understand it. They just like the free rides and the momentary thrill. Till then, buy that damn bike..,,ride to live and live to ride.. and rack up them miles!

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I'm 30, own my own home, have a full time job, and am very loving! Why am I alone?? Posted: 1/14/2007 12:41:16 AM
The problem is that SOME women are too forgiving. I have seen some gorgeous intelligent hotties become young sugar mamas to some very worthless men. What gives? It is a mystery, as big as the pyramids. No rhyme no reason. If I was dating a worthless liability, I would cut the losses and bounce IT to the curve. The objective is to v=find someone equally compatible and loving. But NEVER EVER under no circumstance try to solve a woman's problem. For some reason they hate and resent any help or warning when they are dating a LOSER. They would rather experience the pain. Yes they are hell bent on it...I see it all the time. All they want then is to air out their anger and have you listen and be by their side...makes no sense at all. Last time I said a woman was a fool for dating a loser, her freind, the girl I was dating decided to dump me. I guess women are way too forginving and an illogical gender. Makes no sense at all. I just got out oft he bar...forgive me if I come across too frank and honest (I have been told by many, I express the truth too honestly while in this state of mind). Remember all of you morons out there: CHOICE, NOT CHANCE DETERMINES THE OUTCOME. and Your DECISIONS will determine your DESTINY, CHOOSE WISELY.

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In the Grocery Store? Posted: 1/14/2007 12:22:37 AM
Being a typical ,ale...the bad thing about me is that iam too efficient and know what i ant in a grocery store, or any store for that matter...is that I eyeball the commodity I want ..buy and leave. Which leaves no one any time or room to snag me. I am in and out too quickly. myabe being too technically minded makes me too efficient.

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Sexy or Pathetic? Posted: 1/13/2007 12:05:56 PM
Absolute Virginity. There is nothing wrong or shameful about it. The person is merely treating their body like a sacred temple. I know some naughty and randy middle eastern girls who "wanted to keep their virginity" and practice oral and anal sex. Something about the particular Muslim/Islamic society that they live in would get them into major trouble. THAT to me is not virginity..that means they have gotten saavy about sex. I guess they wanted tohavetheir cake and eat it too. Pathetic is really about how one feels about themselves and how they allow themselves to be mistreated.

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Weird but true Posted: 1/13/2007 11:41:23 AM
Wierd but true... My best sexual nights come when there is a full moon. I met a tall gorgeous red head on a full moon. AND no regrets. There is something magical staring at a gal with a light complexion as the moon beams its light on her. I love the Full moon. Hmm maybe is it because I become this naughty hairy beast with a long tongue? Big Bad Wolf? aaawwhhooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! I can hear the song play: Little Red Riding Hood....

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Who dominates in your bedroom????? Posted: 1/13/2007 11:36:50 AM
hmmm.... I am picturing a tall blonde Scandinavian dominotrix throwing me on the bed and raping me...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm delisciouso. If she she was a muscle bound woman with a starving libido...that would be a way big turn on. It would look funny...we would look like thus: a Jack Russel Terrier (me) and the muscular Pitt Bull (her). I would proudly provide pleasure to my Xenia Warrior Princess..just to her here do that famous yell as she cliimaxes.. or if she was a this tall redneck girl..YEEHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as she gyrates up and down...ie she is saving a horse and riding her cowboy.

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In the Grocery Store? Posted: 1/13/2007 11:30:44 AM
Hey hey! I am going grocery shopping soon, and I'm wondering, is it totally wrong to hit on a guy at the store? If I just walked up to you and started talking to you, and eventually asked you out/gave you my number/asked for your number , would you be cool with that? Let me know! I need to go shopping soon! ========================== I dig assertive women. If a woman that I found appealing came up to me...why not...it would make for a cool time. I think a side track to Starbucks or Boders would be enticing. I like Christina Ricci's philosophy: We should all have gorgeous stalkers. Hell I would be happy if I had a tall, voluptous babe with an ample Jennfier Lopez @ss come up to me and wanted to get my number.

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What does it take for a man to attracted to a bbw Posted: 1/13/2007 10:41:48 AM
The weapons of choice: * Proper attire (one that obscures yet flatter the body. I love a woman who has a big butt, and who wears the long dress (ah the Russian Jewish gals... sigh) * Good Hygiene * Personality/Confidense * Attitude A clean, saavily dressed, woman with a Mae West attitude and a Molly Brown moxie wins big time in my book. There are some of guys who are old school and just adore the old school gals. Meaty confident gals rule!

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