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 Author Thread: Open mic night...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Open mic night...
Posted: 11/10/2009 10:22:34 AM

Also the size of a brain matters to most intelligent woman more than a physical body part!


Do you think for a minute my physical characteristics don't play an important part in this guy's desire to sleep with ME? Give me a break! Of course brain is important, and he's got a great one. But that's not all that matters to me, or most people.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Open mic night...
Posted: 11/10/2009 9:50:10 AM
I'm not trolling. This is a real question regarding a real person, who I truly do like and care about. I know he wants to sleep with me, and like I said I just don't want to wind up in an awkward situation.

If you think women aren't supposed to care about size and no women do, you're burying your head in the sand.

Just like I know some guys wouldn't enjoy sleeping with me because I'm small-chested. I don't wear super-padded bras or anything, because I wouldn't want to put either of us in an awkward situation when we get to that stage.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Open mic night...
Posted: 11/10/2009 9:21:09 AM

why the hell would anybody love a guy with a small penis or a grower, you go girl!


Some girls are all about the clitoris, and there's nothing wrong with that. But, not this one.

How much can it grow, really?

Maybe this question should have been about the fit of his jeans. Like, I REALLY don't recall ever checking out a guy before that showed no bulge whatsoever. Is he maybe just really clever about where he tucks it and how he wears his underwear?

I think I need to see more guys naked and then in jeans, to figure out how much you can really tell with the clothes on about how they'll look with the clothes off. Someone should do a study on this!
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Open mic night...
Posted: 11/10/2009 8:11:50 AM
"-He though she was hot and pitched a tent he didn't want you to see. "

Definitely not this one. She was really overweight and i know he doesn't go for that.

Hey, I know he says he gets really nervous around girls he likes. He's also slept with women before though.

"If he had stayed put and listened w/ rapt attention would that have meant he was gay and hungry for a big one? "

I thought the timing of his exit was conspicuous, that's all. The first thing I thought of was that it made him uncomfortable (b/c it made me somewhat uncomfortable) and then I wondered why


Also, when most guys wear skinny jeans, you can see a bulge. Not so with this guy. These things are relevant to some women, sorry guys...

I was only thinking about this because I'm scared of getting into an embarassing situation and then hurting somone I care about.

As much sh*t as I've been given in my life for being small-chested, I refuse to feel overly bad about this.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Open mic night...
Posted: 11/10/2009 6:42:51 AM
I was with this guy at an open mic night organized by one of his friends at a hip cafe/arthouse. Most of the performances were singing and acting.

Then there was one woman who got and said she was going to mimic this "let's talk about sex" show they do in Britain or something. She starts telling this long, detailed, explicit story about the excitement then difficulty of trying to sleep with a man who had a giant penis. At some point early on in the story my friend got up abruptly and went outside to smoke.

I was wondering if the timing of his exit meant he was uncomfortable. And if so, could he be uncomfortable because he has a small penis? Speculation welcome.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 96 (view)
 
What is sexy about FAT???
Posted: 11/2/2009 6:12:03 PM
RickyGR,

But you say that like it explains something, like it's just a genetic thing. There's a lot more to it than that, talk to a Sociologist or an expert in Education or something...

Southerners are more likely to be fat than Northeners. Therefore states like Alabama are fat because they're filled with Southerners. (Those are factual statements, but doesn't really get to the crux of the issue though, does it?)
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 82 (view)
 
What is sexy about FAT???
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:16:22 AM
I'll chime in as another skinny woman who can't gain weight and doesn't want /any/ body type to be put down.

"boyish" "flat" "unfeminine"? These are all terms I've heard, as young as junior high. I've also had some people call me "slender" or "svelt" and tell me I have nice curves. But the thing is, is that in spite of how much talk people are doing about it here, the amount of "curve" necessary to make one adequately "feminine" and sexy, is a very subjective thing.

I think that currently, society is far more obsessed with evaluating a woman's physical traits to determine whether she is "feminine" than it is at evaluating a male's traits to determine whether he's "masculine." The number of bad things said about pretty-boy Brad Pitt, for instance, does not compare with the brutal things said about someone like Hillary Swank, who has a slightly androgynous face.

Basically, I think we need to knock it the **** off. And men and women alike should be working harder to support women of all body types.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 3 (view)
 
What can happen to cause you to think a girl/woman isn't interested?
Posted: 11/1/2009 1:12:32 AM
Well those to me it seems are pretty obvious... Like less "suspect" and more "know"

I'm interested in more subtle signals that would cause you to doubt...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
What can happen to cause you to think a girl/woman isn't interested?
Posted: 11/1/2009 1:01:05 AM
I know conventional wisdom would be that women's most common mistake is seeming TOO interested, but after analyzing myself (and observing the chicks my guy friends wind up with and how much more affectionate around guys they are than I am) I came to the conclusion about a year ago that I more likely go to the opposite extreme, if anything.

I consecutively fail with guys, and I don't know why. But I've started to wonder if it's because they often think I'm not interested.

So I'm just curious, when you've dated or just tried to get to know women in the past, what things has she done that cause you to suspect... not KNOW... but SUSPECT... that she's not interested, to the point where you quit pursuing?
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 90 (view)
 
Seriously Why would you give head on a first date then ignore calls the day after.
Posted: 10/14/2009 10:52:54 PM

"The vast majority of women I've dated didn't care for getting oral.
This whole "sex should be fair" thing going around POF is really starting to irritate me.
No wonder so many people are such terrible lovers."

I think what you're missing here is that a lot of the point of people (even popular sex advice-columnists) promoting the "sex should be fair" idea, stems from historical precedents. Specifically, the fact that a couple of decades ago, men and women expected that women would go down, but the same expectation didn't exist for men.

Heck, one sex manual from the 1950s recommended that women should just "lie there" or else he'd think she was a whore.

Men and women have not, historically, had equal bargaining power when it came to requesting what they wanted sexually (or even just things like, being taught it's okay to accept their body and enjoy themselves).
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Skinny- athletic Vs. Average- chubby
Posted: 10/14/2009 11:35:56 AM
Yeah, when someone doesn't reply it's best to let it go. That's true for men and women both.

And you might be athletic, but you can't really tell that from the pictures you have posted (not saying it looks like you AREN'T either, just that you can't see enough to tell). You can tell from your pictures that you're not particularly skinny though, which is obviously this guy's thing. I'm skinny and I've been dumped by guys who prefer curvier women. Preferences are just part of life, no point hating on people whose bodies are different from your own or trying to convince everyone that they should like yours.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Ever been nervous while kissing a girl? Why?
Posted: 10/14/2009 2:07:46 AM
Well, he's not inexperienced as in, never kissed a girl before.

But I think he's only slept with a few girls, and from something he said I got the impression he likes me more than most of the people he's slept with.

Same with me though. I'd say I'm pretty inexperienced, but first kisses (once I'm doing the actual kissing, anticipation does make me nervous) don't make me overly nervous and definitely doesn't make me shake.

(what this situation immediately made me think of, actually, was the 29 yr-old guy I was hooking up with for awhile when I was 21, who went on a date with another woman and then decided he liked her more because he got butterflies in his stomach when they had their first kiss. Man did I feel burned. And I also thought it sounded like a lame reason because I couldn't really relate to the whole butterflies-in-the-stomach thing, or why he thought that was somehow indicative of greater potential for the future of their relationship)
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Ever been nervous while kissing a girl? Why?
Posted: 10/13/2009 10:47:03 PM
"Mademoiselle, its the excitement and the thrill to be intimate with the one that you like or love that causes all this hysteria or wreck our nerves. :)"

I've heard this explanation before, but it makes no sense to me. Why would someone be nervous about something unless the fear of something negative happening was implicated in there somewhere?
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Ever been nervous while kissing a girl? Why?
Posted: 10/13/2009 10:37:37 PM
I kissed a guy kind of recently (well, we kissed each other. It was pretty mutual and I can't say who started it, which I like).

He said that he'd been wanting to do it for a long time but also that he was nervous, and I could actually feel him, physically shaking.

I thought it was kind of sweet, because I guessed he must like me to be that nervous about it.

I also thought it was bit odd though. Sure, I've been nervous when hooking up with someone who I really liked, because I was afraid they wouldn't like me back or they'd leave. It caused me to be all caught up in my own head in my own thoughts, but it never manifested in physical shaking.

I guess I'm just wondering what the various reasons someone might be that nervous about a first kiss might be. Just because they like you and want to impress you? Because they're afraid they're not good enough for you? Is this a common occurence?
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 20 (view)
 
War of the Sexes: Could this exist without women's participation?
Posted: 10/10/2009 9:25:04 PM
Actually, I think 8s8 did a better job of answering the question as posed than anybody else so far. Maybe it was too complex of a question for a PoF post...


As for the OP: I don't get how two groups of men talking about men qualify for a battle of sexes.

I didn't know how to title it succinctly. Perhaps I could have done a better job.


But perhaps both are right. Suppose group A says men cheat and B says they don't. A is right because some are known to have cheated

Well except in my case, I'm talking about men who are trying in earnest to speak for all men, so they CAN'T both be right.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
War of the Sexes: Could this exist without women's participation?
Posted: 10/9/2009 7:35:33 PM

But the men who say men cannot be trusted and those who lament women's lack of trust are rarely the same people. Apples and ornages.

I agree and I make that pretty clear in the OP. That's kind of integral to the point of the thread.


Usually, since our society raises women to have no concept of accountability

Wow, THAT'S a misogynistic statement.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
War of the Sexes: Could this exist without women's participation?
Posted: 10/9/2009 8:38:37 AM
JerseyGirl,

Not to invalidate your experience, but from your photos it does appear that you are a very conventionally attractive woman. Perhaps this influences your experiences? Especially if you tend to act in a very friendly (i.e. feminine, flirty) way. I'll admit I've had a fair number of guy friends have crushes on me too, but I've also had guy I knew (maybe not great friends but sort-of friends) who I had crushes on who didn't want to date me. Often one of the other will happen, but I don't think that invalidates the friendship. I just call it being human.



ones who say not to trust men aren't referring to themselves

Well, I don't know... I've heard things along these lines from my father, my father's friends, and my cousin, all of whom I'm pretty sure were not wanting to date me.

My theory has often been that the ones who say these things tend to be men who have treated women like jerks before, or who have hung out around a lot of men who have treated women like jerks, so that's their experience with men. It could have something to do with their subculture, like e.g. frat culture. It's always very telling to me when they then turn around and call what I would consider nice guys "pansies" or something...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
War of the Sexes: Could this exist without women's participation?
Posted: 10/8/2009 10:56:08 PM
So I've noticed a trend, and I imagine lots of women have had similar experiences to me.

On the one hand, there are some men who love to give women advice along the lines of "Men shouldn't be trusted. They only want one thing. Men don't really ever want to be friends with women. etc. etc."

On the other hand, you have other men always lamenting the fact that women are distrusting, and accusing women of having negative views about men, etc.

(There are also what I consider some more reasonable male individuals in the middle of course, who recognize different individuals hold different values, are motivated by different things and act in different ways.)

Basically, I'm most curious about the two extremes though, because they seem to be most prevalant, or at least most vocal. I'm wondering how those belief systems come into being, why it is that both of those types seem to more often spend time debating/trying to persuade women than each other, and also, am I alone among women in finding it pretty annoying?
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
What Is She Trying To Suggest
Posted: 10/8/2009 8:59:00 AM
Sounds like she's trying to create a sense of competition. According to all those people who say men want a challenge, that's supposed to make you want her more.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 153 (view)
 
Who Does All The Work In Bed?
Posted: 10/7/2009 9:50:56 PM
I think whether or not you think your partner is doing "work" has a lot to do with expectations. Does it mean you want to spend half the time with her on top, or you'd be happy with her on the bottom thrusting her hips back and forth against yours?

You just need to communicate about your expectations.

And yes, I think many women think they're expected to be a bit submissive, or they have a fear of rejection if they're not used to being more aggressive in bed
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 50 (view)
 
No connection, no chemistry, no passion...but....they're nice?
Posted: 10/7/2009 11:56:17 AM

Spark, connection, call it what you will, is not like lightening. Any two people could connect if the situations are right. All it takes is a grand centerpiece of conversation and an honesty of personality.

It's like that line from the movie Amelie: (goes something like this) "I've worked in a bar long enough I know the recipe for love. You know what it is? Take two regulars, mix them together and let them stew..."
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 63 (view)
 
The soft blow off, how do you handle it?
Posted: 10/7/2009 10:59:42 AM

we're all adults here, no need to beat around the bush."

Nothing passive agressive that I could see there. He said you are beating around the bush and not acting like an adult and I don't like it.

Actually, no. If he'd said "you're beating around the bush and not acting like an adult and I don't like it" that would have been a little more direct, although maybe a tad immature because it makes it look like he got angry based on speculation. (A tad more mature would have been to phrase it more like "I feel like you're beating around the bush and I don't like it..." That makes it more about him and the sense he's getting from the situation than him judging some lady he's never met like he's her superior.)

But he did neither of those things, by saying "we're all adults here, no need to beat around the bush" he instead /implies/ a number of things. A) that statement could possibly be interpreted as him saying he finds her behavior immature, B) he thinks she's lying. And the whole "good luck with your search" thing from someone who thinks they just got shot down and just showed they're unhappy with it? TOTALLY passive aggressive.


Would you do this to someone if you were genuinely interested?

IF it was just someone I'd had a short exchange with online? Yeppers. It's not possible for me to develop a "strong interest" for someone I've only met online... it's not a very personal communication method or a good way to get to know someone. It's good for making casual acquaintences, who might POSSIBLY become something real later on... Could be she was talking with a few guys, and keeping her distance until she had time to try and date someone more seriously. It's called Practical, which I sometime feel is an unfamiliar concept to some online-daters.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 57 (view)
 
Is it possible to like both very voluptuous women and super-skinny ones?
Posted: 10/7/2009 10:47:47 AM

you're a little bit country and i'm a little bit rock n roll

hah! Brilliant.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 55 (view)
 
Is it possible to like both very voluptuous women and super-skinny ones?
Posted: 10/7/2009 10:30:00 AM

I am still not sure why you are asking a bunch of strangers about this.

Because I can.

[The only way to know a particular guy's... are by asking him
Well, except then he can lie, which I have a feeling a lot of guys would do when faced with a girl he hooked up with a couple of times asking him if he ever found her physically attractive, if the answer was "no"
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 81 (view)
 
Men and Dating and Looks...
Posted: 10/7/2009 10:27:00 AM

actually...the entire show (aired on PBS I believe) was an interesting look at how biology influences our choice in love partners.

Now see, to me that little experiment (while fascinating) shows something almost totally the opposite. To me it indicates how big an influence social pressures influence people's choices (their ideas about who was attractive were apparently influenced more by randomly assigned numbers (i.e. not biology) than by how the people actually looked). This could be like people thinking a certain look is attractive, because the media says so and everyone else responds to that. It becomes a cyclical and self-reinforcing effect. I think a lot of people, anyhow, are attracted to power (including social power). If a woman looks a certain way and gets a lot of attention for it, men want her more because they think somehow that reflects on them. (and vice versa)
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 57 (view)
 
The soft blow off, how do you handle it?
Posted: 10/7/2009 10:15:09 AM

“I am interested in talking, why don’t you give me your number and I’ll call you when I get a free minute.” Really, who doesn’t have 10 minutes, for, well, a 10 minute conversation?

What's the point of starting phone calls if you don't have time to let the relationship accelerate naturally? Could easily result in a feeling of anticlimax where interests dwindle. If I was as busy as she was, I might want to wait a month before initiating more "personal" type contact too.

The 12-hr volunteer on-call she referred to could quite possibly be a hotline, like one for rape or suicide. A lot of those operate that way.

Also, her response was a bit silly, but so was yours who initiated it. Yours was incredibly passive aggressive and I would have been seriously offput by that too.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 137 (view)
 
Who Does All The Work In Bed?
Posted: 10/7/2009 6:49:32 AM

He still has to stimulate her or move or something.

As far as I know most women do those things on the bottom also (touch him, move their hips, etc.)
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 60 (view)
 
Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/6/2009 10:29:11 PM
SirThinkaLot,

You are the very definition of a pedantic tone in your posts. Which could be offputting to a lot of people. If you are as funny as you say you are, it would be nice to see a little of that.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 33 (view)
 
No connection, no chemistry, no passion...but....they're nice?
Posted: 10/6/2009 10:24:03 PM
Yeah, but different people obviously define chemistry totally differently.

When I hear "instant attraction" I assume they're talking about physical.

You on the other hand 3lueseas, seem to be talking about personality and all those things you can't necessarily know on the first date.

Personally, I had a one-night stand with the guy I was the most instantly attracted to of anyone I ever met. Yes, there was *something* there, but I'm not sure that it would have lasted and I wouldn't have gotten bored with him eventually. Plus, it was mainly about his hair and body -I saw him later when he'd cut his hair and I didn't feel the electricity as much. I feel like sometimes people who glorify instant attraction have never had this experience, of actually being able to hookup immediately with someone they felt it for. I think instant attraction is mainly a psychological response to the way a person looks and acts, which is primarily informed by past experience. Yes, it can be intense, and it can even last over time, but that doesn't mean that open-minded people can't find other types of valid attraction.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 41 (view)
 
The soft blow off, how do you handle it?
Posted: 10/6/2009 8:15:38 PM

While I think this is the way people let others "down easy" it still bothers me a bit because they are in effect asking you to act 'dumb' if you will.

Wow. You managed to articulate this well. I always wondered why this approach to turning someone down/breaking it off with them bothered me so much.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 29 (view)
 
No connection, no chemistry, no passion...but....they're nice?
Posted: 10/6/2009 6:40:33 PM

This idea of instant attraction, or it's old name, love at first sight, is a currently popular idea. People buy into it. Then they live by it. Then they make it come true.

I don't believe in it.

Sure, you may find someone unappealing right away. And someone may be extremely attractive to you at first sight. Big deal, it does not confer the ability to predict the future.

Brilliantly put.


Personally, after years of knowing someone, I've one day realized that I really like them and find them attractive. They grew on me. I got to know them.

My parents met through a small group of friends in college, over a period of time, not through a series of formalized dating rituals.

As I understand it, this type of socializing is still common. You hang out with like minded people, without the pressure that comes from dating, and over time, as you learn about someone, you pair up.

Yep.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
What does wanna chat mean? Seriously, I don't get it.
Posted: 10/6/2009 3:40:39 PM
I think A-Womans-Best-Friend is right on the money. I used to get lots of messages like that too, when I had pictures up.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Practicality and Unconventionality
Posted: 10/6/2009 3:32:13 PM

and only had 3 "dates"
Okay, I don't know why people keep citing this. One of the responders just made that up. I never said anything about numbers and dates. I said we spent a lot of time together for two months.

I also said the reason I would consider moving to his country is not just to see him again (I won't say "be with him" because I don't know the future of our relationship, but I'm pretty sure we'll at least stay friends), but because I love the country. It would only be if I got a job I wanted too.


Anyhow, I'm not sure what happened between then and now (he mentioned something about phone and computer problems last time he tried to contact me). Maybe he is deliberately dialing down the contact over what it was initially, which is okay by me. That is sensible. But, he just sent me a really long, sweet message (really funny too -guy's a great writer. It's actually related to his profession). I don't think he's dating anyone yet since he said he hasn't been out for a couple of weeks. The message didn't really ask for a reply so I think I'll wait for him to call me before initiating contact again, or phone him over my break -phone is better anyway, especially for real conversations. So, thank you for your replies. Well, SOME of you...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 11:33:06 PM

TXT speak is a form of "bonics"

Yeah, but you didn't say "bonics" you said "Ebonics". Nice try though.

"I don't see color" is not a legit anti-racist argument in most academic or political circles that actively debate and do progressive work on such matters.

Also, dude, given the way you write, what are you ON??? It must be fascinating...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 11:02:54 PM

oohlala21
I don't know why you would accuse me of being racist?

That's pretty easy to address. Because she didn't use Eubonics/Ebonics, she used txt speak. But you insulted her intelligence and implied she used Ebonics. Would you have said that she was using Ebonics if she was white?


The irony of modern linguist having a preferred spelling for ebonics...

Well, Eubonics is a legit area of study in some universities now, you know? I've even heard of classes being taught in Eubonics (linguistics classes, not language classes). I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 38 (view)
 
Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 10:53:49 PM
NappyKat:

"Eubonics: African American Vernacular English (AAVE)—also called African American English; less precisely Black English, Black Vernacular, Black English Vernacular (BEV), or Black Vernacular English (BVE)—is an African American variety (dialect, ethnolect and sociolect) of American English. Non-linguists sometimes call it Ebonics (a term that also has other meanings or strong connotations).

So apparently, Eubonics is the term preferred by modern linguists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eubonics
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
This is obviously my problem, why do I do this????
Posted: 10/5/2009 10:48:25 PM

"I like men. I'm sexual. If a man pursues me and 'makes me feel desired' then I'm good. If *I* have to put in any work, then this is unacceptable and I withdraw. I hope that by withdrawing he'll get my 'clues' and 'hints' and will once again pursue me so I don't have to put in any effort. I'm a woman and demand to be pampered. Pursuit is a man's work."

Umm... I disagree. I think these are the words of someone who is intimidated by women. In fact, you're not as different from the OP as you may think. I think the OP is, essentually, insecure. She's afraid to reach out much not because she doesn't want the contact, but because she doesn't feel desirable and is afraid to impose. (I know this feeling exactly, although I'm younger and less experienced and hope to work through it.) I think if you felt desirable, felt that he'd want the contact, you wouldn't hesitate to go for it. I think what you need may be a combination of things: you need more confidence, you need to feel desired. For the former, therapy might help. For the latter, you should be clearly communicating your insecurities with your partner so that you two can try and work through it together.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 10:23:32 PM

I do not associate with judgmental common people who are not capable of having meaningful intelligent dialogue. You have not been fortunate enough to land someone like me. Without change you most likely never will.

"Common people"? Are you effing kidding me?


As to putting you to sleep... yes that is likely. I would not be capable of keeping your attention for long. I have trouble only using ebonics, slang and words of four letters or less.

I'm pretty sure you mean "Eubonics" not "Ebonics" (look it up). Either way, I don't see her using that. Get off my thread you racist scum.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 192 (view)
 
Best question ever asked.
Posted: 10/5/2009 9:51:13 PM

I live in Northern California (Bay Area) and have met plenty of awesome women.

NO! Don't send him to the Bay Area! (It's one of the most beautiful places on earth currently and that's where I want to move when I graduate). Besides, the women there are far too liberal and independent for him. If you're looking to up your chances for submissive, go to the U.S. South or Thailand. (Actually, women in the U.S. south tend not to like nerds. I'd say east Asia is a better bet). Or you could, ya know, go cruise some domestic violence shelters or something...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 47 (view)
 
Is it possible to like both very voluptuous women and super-skinny ones?
Posted: 10/5/2009 7:52:30 PM

So your worried that somebody you have already lost might have preferred a different body type and it has made you paranoid?

Yes, because to me our physical relationship was very good. And the idea that it (possibly) wasn't for him but he was going along anyway is humiliating to me, even though I know it wouldn't be that uncommon of a situation.


And if I had enough of an objection to their body that it was a problem I wouldn't make out with them multiple times before figuring it out.

Well, he basically admitted to me later I was a rebound after a relationship with a woman he was crazy about who dumped him (and she was a plus-size model at that). He didn't say he was using me to get over her, per se, but that he was enjoying having someone to hang out with without expecting it to go anywhere (and he didn't clarify whether he wasn't expecting it to go anywhere because that's the vibe I was giving off, or because he simply wasn't interested. Side note: if he really just meant it was my vibe that caused him to think it wasn't leading to a relationship and he would of in fact been interested in one with me if I'd acted differently, he worded it p1ss poorly. Guys, make sure you never have this misunderstanding with someone.)
Anyhow, for rebounds, aren't people often less picky or deliberately pick people who won't remind them of their ex?
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 7:43:33 PM
I think what the definition above misses is that sarcasm doesn't have to be directed at an individual. Could be directed at a non-person entity. Then no one is being insulted directly.

But sure, lots of use of sarcasm usually indicates a somewhat cynical worldview. Just how I like it
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
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Practicality and Unconventionality
Posted: 10/5/2009 7:24:55 PM

The long distance potential lover seems to be a pattern with you.
I'm guessing it's safer than a local boy just across town.
A local guy 24-7 may be too scary.
A guy across the globe you can mentally obsess about in your leisure is a school girl thing.

Well, part of it may be a fear of true intimacy.

But... I honestly think the larger part of it is that I go to a school where the culture evolves around working a lot as opposed to socializing a lot. I know a lot of people who hardly date. Plus in my subculture I'm in an extreme minority in my school... I'm more likely to find people I have more interests in common with when I'm in urban areas, as I am over the summer.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
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Would this be a deal-breaker for you?
Posted: 10/5/2009 5:21:26 PM
First date... she got the address of the place wrong and comes like a half hour late.

Second and third dates she's like 15 minutes late and shows up looking a little disheveled like she rushed to get there.

Fourth date, she texts you at the beginning to let you know she's running late, even though she picked the spot this time. She gets there like an hour late looking all made up.

Would this send up red flags to you?


EDIT: In my defense I was a bit younger and dumber when these things occured. Plus I had just moved to a strange city.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 2:41:25 PM
I know some people find sarcasm a turn-on, and some find it a serious turn-off.

I'd like to do sort of an informal poll to figure out how many people sit on each side of the fence.

If it depends on what kind of sarcasm it is, or what kind of context (i.e. sometimes you love it sometimes you hate it) please explain...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
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Practicality and Unconventionality
Posted: 10/5/2009 12:39:09 AM

This child has posted this thread about 3 times now, with slight variations in the wording each time.......I vote for deletion of this crap, first she asks the question, then answers it herself.....

No, I may have asked similar questions, or other questions about this situation, but not the SAME question. And there are much dumber questions active here on these forums.

The guys who posted repeatedly about being depressed virgins didn't even get called "child"; I do take great offense to that. We're not emotionally immature people. This guy was in a two year relationship where he was engaged, and previous to that he lived through one of the most violent times in his country as a child when his father was imprisoned as an activist and later died in a car crash along with his sister. I don't have much relationship experience (just some emotionally trying affairs) but I've been living away from my family since I was 15, made friends all over the place, and I know I've never felt an emotional bond with someone like this before. We're both highly intelligent and literate people. We're not making plans to spend the rest of our lives together or anything like that, but if you insist on continuing to give me sh1t about caring about some sort of future for this bond you can go screw yourself.

And if you think I answered my own question, you didn't read it very carefully:
It's kind of hard to tell long-distance what's going on and whether someone is into you, after all. I'm not sure if discussing my insecurities or the fact I'd like to hear from him at semi-regular intervals, and that I'd like to be told in definite terms if at some point he decides there's no future, would make it sound like I'm taking things too seriously?... or if there's a tactful way to do it.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
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Is it possible to like both very voluptuous women and super-skinny ones?
Posted: 10/4/2009 7:37:15 PM

oohlala21 is this the guy that is shorter than you?

No. That one is a current prospect. This one was taller than me (and very skinny himself).

But, realistically, I know sometimes people try dating people who ultimately just "don't do it" for them physically. And a recent and very long thread on boobs has a lot of guys saying they can't make it with women smaller than a C-cup (which is larger than average). I'd say different people place priority on different things
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
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Practicality and Unconventionality
Posted: 10/4/2009 5:56:17 PM

It would be totally FOOLISH to pick up and move to another COUNTRY to get a job just to go on a 3rd date

That wouldn't be the only reason. It's also because I love his country and want to return some day. I probably wouldn't have even thought of it if he hadn't first surprised me by suggesting to try and move to MY country. (Which actually worried me for awhile before I decided it made me happy)

The reason I say I'm not sure he's seeing anyone is because he's spent a good deal of his adult life not seeing anyone. He's like me in that he hasn't dated a lot. You make it sound like guys are getting constantly laid, which while it's true for some definitely isn't for others, lol.
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Practicality and Unconventionality
Posted: 10/4/2009 4:49:08 PM
I know it's long. Please only respond if you've read the whole thing first...


While on summer vacation this year I met a guy through a mutual friend, and we wound up spending a LOT of time together -for two months we hung out maybe 3 times a week for hours at a time and talking about everything, superficial and profound -childhood, family, dreams, relationships, insecurities, music, politics, etc. We bonded some over similar interests and some common experiences like growing up around religious fundamentalists and having dysfunctional families as a result of tragedies. The last two weeks he started telling me a lot of very sweet things -that he felt like he'd known me way longer than he actually had, that he thought I was beautiful, that I was one of the coolest girls he'd ever met, that he thought I deserved better than the guys I'd been dating who seemed not that into me, that he really liked me but he'd been afraid to tell me because he didn't want me to think he'd just been hanging out with me because he wanted to sleep with me, etc. Since he lives in another country, after I told him I liked him too he started talking about ways I could visit him or he could visit me in the future. And we snuggled some in front of his friends and when we said goodbye made out for a bit, which he told me he'd been wanting to do for a long time.

He had told me at one point he wasn't good at keeping in touch with friends who were far away, but when I arrived back in the states, he sent me a facebook message about how much he missed me, and gave me a surprise call two week later (but we had trouble getting good reception). He also surprised me by saying he was going to wait a month at his new job and then see about transferring to New York. We sent brief fb messages to each other every day for a week, then I made fun of him for checking fb every day because he used to talk about how much he hated it. Then he replied that he agreed it was bad and was going into "hibernation" and since hasn't replied to the couple of messages I sent him. I gave him a call a couple of weeks after our initial phone convo but could only talk for 10 min on my calling card. I think he liked talking to me and was happy when I mentioned the possibility of applying for a job in his country... and when I mentioned I'd sent him a fb message he said he'd check it that night and at the end of our convo he said he'd get a calling card to call me with.

So it's been a week, and I haven't heard from him either on fb or over the phone (if he'd checked fb I'd think he would've replied to my message, because although it was a longish message I tried to make it sweet and it asked him some questions. But I don't know for sure if he checked like he said he would).
I can't believe it's a matter of him just suddenly not liking me anymore, because A) he seemed SO into me previously and B) he seemed happy enough when I called last weekend. It's possible he's seeing someone else as it has been a month since I left, but even so I can't imagine him suddenly losing all interest in me -and I don't think it's terribly likely anyhow, because he's shy around girls and doesn't date a ton, and he sounded happy when I brought up the idea of me applying for jobs where he lives. I think there's a good chance he simply decided to be more practical and tone down how much we were contacting each other, since we don't know how long it will be until we see each other again and it could be 2 months but it could also be much, much longer. But it's hard for me because when I left his country I had no expectations whatsoever for how much we'd contact each other, and I felt like HE was the one who pushed for continued contact at the beginning -which I was happy enough with. And then suddenly he just stopped.

Since we're not in a relationship or anything, would it be overboard for me (if he does get a calling card and call me at some point) to start a frank discussion about expectations for how often we contact each other? I'm trying /really/ hard not to be a crazy girl who reads too much into everything (like "he hasn't made an effort to contact me for two weeks! he must be totally over me!") It's kind of hard to tell long-distance what's going on and whether someone is into you, after all. I'm not sure if discussing my insecurities or the fact I'd like to hear from him at semi-regular intervals, and that I'd like to be told in definite terms if at some point he decides there's no future, would make it sound like I'm taking things too seriously?... or if there's a tactful way to do it. I mean, I figure if another week or two go by and he HASN'T given me a call as he said he would, that's a pretty good sign of him having lost interest, right?
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Is it possible to like both very voluptuous women and super-skinny ones?
Posted: 10/2/2009 8:04:12 PM

Believe it or not, guys don't pay attention to that nonsense.

Well what I mean by knowing he likes really voluptuous women is not just that he's dated a lot but that he *talks* about seeing a certain very attractive, voluptuous woman at the train station, or how "voluptuous" is a great word. He's posted things on his facebook page about how the first human-created statue of a female was volutpous, and articles on how it's so great that mainstream magazines are now starting to use plus-size models. I haven't seen him post anything similar about skinny women. If that doesn't indicate a trend, I don't know what does...
 oohlala21
Joined: 11/28/2008
Msg: 70 (view)
 
Men and Dating and Looks...
Posted: 10/1/2009 1:28:13 PM

you would not need to ask on POF if the new guy you're seeing can really like you if he says that he usually goes for more voluptuous women.

Actually, that was in reference to an older guy, which you'd know if you'd read the OP correctly. The new guy definitely likes me.



I still think you are that girl from youtube, btw. Interestingly enough, you took down your one and only pic right after that thread too.

Actually, as I mentioned in another thread admin took it down. I presume it was because it wasn't a headshot and they've got a new policy with that stuff. I used to have face pics posted, but took them down because I'm not on POF to date and people were getting the wrong message. I considered posting more pictures for a few days, and then decided I wasn't going to do that just for your benefit.

Re: Insecurity. You spend a lot of time on these threads insulting people, especially about their appearance. I'm pretty sure that is usually attributed to deep-rooted insecurity too. Of course, everyone is insecure when it comes to something.

As to the rest, you're welcome to stop posting on my threads anytime you like. I don't feel a need to compete with you... I just think you come across as a bit nuts and nasty with some of the things you write (and the current state of your profile). Most can agree that nuts/insane is subjective though... cuz the boy I'm talking to right now some might call a bit nuts, but I think he's wonderful.
 
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