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Thread: Women have heads but not bodies
mrcs84
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Women have heads but not bodies
Posted: 5/24/2013 9:41:55 AM
omg, this is pathetic.
Face it girls, they think we're a piece of meat.
Perhaps, next time I get a request for a full body photo, instead if deleting the message, I'll ask for a wallet photo to return the favor.
Jeez, no wonder there's so many of you guys wondering and whimpering why no one responds to you.
Look at it this way and maybe you'll get it - if your daughter was on a dating site hoping to meet a great guy and ran across requests for full body shots - what would you advise her to do?
Yeah, thought so.
Pieces of meat? Hypersensitive much?
I guess the idea of standing in front of a vanity mirror to take a shot is too much to ask. Maybe even upload a picture that you took when you were out and about on some adventure you were on.
Jeez it's like you are trying to sidestep one of the biggest factors in pair-bonding. Respecting someone for their mind is great, but generally people won't even go that far if there's not even a physical attraction to initiate conversation.
mrcs84
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Why gender bash??
Posted: 5/23/2013 6:28:31 AM
Yes you are because it seems your view is only the 'cheaper' ways are the ways to spend time with a gal otherwise the guy is a chump. Perhaps the guy spending $120 on a date doesn't care about the cost no different than a gal getting f*cked by a guy doesn't care about how many dates she's been on with him.
If the guy doesn't care about being used, then that is his prerogative. If he has to shell out that kind of money to "make sure that they have a good time," then he's doing it wrong.
Unsure other than bitterness on your part why you bring up as if it's a fact gals being unappreciative and egocentric? Though it's telling how you keep bringing up him getting something in return which is the same logic used in the advice of gals giving it away she's a chump because she gave it away without a relationship.
I didn't claim it to be fact, I said "can be." Though I will attest to it being more underneath the bell curve than toward the extremes.
And then of course, you have articles like this one:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1213212/The-ego-epidemic-more-inflated-sense-fabulousness.html
Going to the comments section (ordered from best rated to worst rated), you see nothing but affirmation of the findings. You can go ahead and play armchair therapist and attribute it to bitterness all you want, however.
Your links prove nothing. Orgasm isn't the end all be all of sexual enjoyment.
I get this cooky logic from patriarchal bs like the slut double standard (master key/sh*tty lock) which clearly devalues as well as derogatory insults for gals based on their sexuality like skank, whore,**** etc. It's off to me that you seriously doubt this considering how many threads/posts by gals are if the guy will think less of her, think she's a slut, and such.
If it were such an issue, then the gals in question wouldn't be giving it up so quickly. However, if they are giving it up quickly, then it would seem to be that it's -not- such an issue.
mrcs84
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Are there friend zone indicators?
Posted: 5/22/2013 10:03:17 AM
Friend Zone indicators
- She flakes on you for no apparent reason
- When she flakes she doesn't try to reschedule. The most you might here is "some other time"
- She never dresses up for you
- Whenever you hang out, it's in a group setting
- You find yourself bending over backwards for her, and yet she is always unavailable when you need something.
- Similarly, you listen to her problems while she is not sympathetic to yours
- She talks about other guys in front of you
- She won't flirt with you
mrcs84
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Why gender bash??
Posted: 5/22/2013 6:49:56 AM
Seems you're overlooking that he may be trying to spend money to ensure they both have a good time.
No. I'm not. There are much cheaper ways to put a smile on a woman's face and/or getting her to show some appreciation than buying her a $120 gift. Like...I dunno...making her laugh or showing her a good time at the local park. With how unappreciative and egocentric women can be, it is very unlikely that reciprocity for that $120 gift will be in kind.
After all, he's not -entitled- to anything other than a "thank you" just because he bought her something...right?
Statistics show gals generally don't get pleasure out of getting laid as shown by the wide orgasm gap and how when they do get pleasure from sex it's less than half as much as guys.
Link?
I'm willing to bet that any woman that gives up sex that quickly enjoys it just fine. Do your "statistics" look at women as a whole, or do they look at women who become sexual very early in the relationship?
She is walking away from the date poorer in the sense of being devalued
Huh? Where do you get this cooky logic? I seriously doubt a woman is worried about being devalued if she is willing to give it up on the second date.
with the whole double standard on sex as the guy being is positively for f*cking a gal and the gal is seen negatively for getting f*cked.
I thought feminism freed women of that whole stigma. It seems like the girls at college campuses rack up all kinds of notches on their bedposts with reckless abandon, and yet they do it with impunity.
It's a bit telling that for sex they're both getting pleasure but when it comes to dating the guy is walking away poorer as if the guy gets nothing from it so is the guy not getting pleasure out of the date too or is spending time with a gal not a pleasure unless he's f*cking her?
You're trying to twist words around. Going on the date isn't the problem. It's spending that kind of money on a date that's the problem, and personally, I don't care how much money the guy makes.
mrcs84
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Why gender bash??
Posted: 5/22/2013 5:13:38 AM
Why is he a chump?
He's a chump because he's essentially trying to buy her affections. He's spending a pretty decent amount of money on a woman that he barely even knows.
Is it coming from the same logic used in the advice that a gal who sleeps with a guy on their second date is a chump
No. It's not the same, especially seeing how she is still getting pleasure out of getting laid too. She also isn't walking away from the date $120 poorer.
mrcs84
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Gender equality and tradition
Posted: 5/21/2013 5:13:14 PM
Anecdote: This is post-coital conversation
Me: Who'd you go to dinner with?
Her: My friend Peter.
Me: Ah, so you had a date?
Her: No it was not a date! We are just friends.
Me: Really. Let me ask you something…did he pay for dinner?
Her: Well..yes. But he knows we are just friends.
Me: He wants to sleep with you.
Her: He knows that’s not going to happen.
Me: Has he tried to kiss you ever?
Her: No. Well, sort of. He tried a pre-kiss.
Me: WTF is a pre-kiss?
Her: He tried to hint at kissing me by kind of moving around weirdly near my face. I don't know how to explain it, but I could tell he was thinking of kissing me.
Me: Didn't he wonder why you were leaving so early on a Friday night?
Her: Yeah he wanted to go get drinks after, but I told him I had to get up early to go hiking with a friend so I couldn't… (guilty smile)
Paying for dinner (at least in my generation and younger) translates to getting used while some other guy is getting what you're looking for. I minimize my time/money/energy with a girl until there is legitimately something there. There are too many egocentric women out there that don't appreciate a man's efforts. I will willingly bend myself over backwards for a woman who I am committed to, but not someone who I am still getting to know.
As far as the whole equality thing. There is little incentive to change things when the status quo is in your favor. There are a lot of women who are independent and have no issue grabbing the reins. There are others that are also independent, but like to fall back on such traditional practices. I personally love the people who claim to be old fashioned, but aren't even old enough to have experienced the days of when such traditions were more prevalent.
mrcs84
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Do men really screw anything? Looking for honest answers.
Posted: 5/21/2013 4:46:52 PM
One thing I've noticed is that standards go down based on
1. Level of Drunkenness.
2. How long it has been since they've had sex.
3. Lack of options.
4. Likeliness that they will not see that person again.
mrcs84
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Arm candy
Posted: 5/8/2013 1:24:39 AM
So...a girlfriend that is hot? Yes please.
Beauty being the only quality that she has going for her? Obviously not.
Seems like too many posters are hung up on the term itself. A hot, smart, sane, compatible partner is still arm candy if you ask me.
mrcs84
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Sex on the First Date - Guys - what do you think?
Posted: 5/5/2013 10:15:18 AM
If you two are digging each other, then you should go for it. Sex is an emotional/passionate display between 2 people, not a means of negotiation.
mrcs84
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Women have heads but not bodies
Posted: 4/29/2013 7:08:54 AM
I do think people should have full body shots. However that doesn't completely eliminate the possibility of someone misrepresenting themselves.
If they do not have one, chances are they are quite overweight. Another big indicator just from looking at the cropped photos is when there is a lack of collar bone definition. People in decent shape generally do not hide that fact with super close-up pictures. It's just like how people with jacked up teeth will always smile with their mouths closed.
Also if you see a bunch of pictures and there's no chronology, just assume that the most unflattering picture is the most accurate to what they look like.
mrcs84
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Male logic versus Female emotions..
Posted: 4/29/2013 5:30:53 AM
great !! so you can fix problems . what if you were the cause of the problem for a woman . would you fix it for her ?
Depends on the woman and it depends on the problem. If the man has no incentive to change anything, then obviously he won't make any efforts to.
mrcs84
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How valued are men?
Posted: 4/9/2013 9:47:22 AM
youtube.com/watch?v=10atNgm_Cy8 (part 1)
youtube.com/watch?v=i_ycphyls-w (part 2)
youtube.com/watch?v=4adcVCT1maw (part 3)
youtube.com/watch?v=kOIhFgTO-Cw (part 4)
That's pretty much male disposability in a nutshell.
I think Angry Harry (part 2) brings up a really strong point that if a man were to be lying in the middle of the street with his penis cut off and located somewhere down the road, he would be laughed at.
Hell, even a fvcking dog wouldn't recieve such ridicule. The ASPCA would be all over that and it would be publicized ad nauseum. For men however, it's simply comedy.
mrcs84
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Arm candy
Posted: 4/8/2013 3:50:40 AM
I like the idea of having arm candy. Being with a hot partner is [more] motivation for me to improve myself simply because I want to give her incentive to stay with me. Living in the very health/fitness conscious community that is the military, I certainly see the effects of one partner being in shape while the other one is not. There is a considerable amount of "I need to look good for my [wo]man" talk.
mrcs84
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Is this true:basically men want a sexy woman/women want a successful man?
Posted: 4/4/2013 2:38:46 AM
Basically men want women to pass the "boner test." If he isn't aroused from looking at her naked, then she doesn't pass the test. Being successful driven and all that other good stuff isn't nearly as important as women make it out to be.
mrcs84
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She is not satisfied with what I make. Should I continue this relationship?
Posted: 4/3/2013 3:20:31 AM
She now doesn't like the some of my qualities which she used to before and gets annoyed with me doing stupid stuff.
Wrong. She NEVER liked those qualities, but now she is actually vocal about them. There are/were qualities about you that she liked enough to put up with the things she didn't like. Now that she is comfortable with you, she's going to try to change those things that she doesn't like.
Also, one negative trait of hers, which I have known since a long time is that she is very money oriented. Her whole life revolves around making money and saving it.
I don't know if this is necessarily bad. Money -does- make the world go 'round, and it's pretty disgusting how many people know so little about finance, but I digress.
She does spend money on shopping occasionally even buying high end items once in a while, but that's about it. Spending money on almost anything else, even if its for me or her family, is not something she likes to do. And knowing that, I usually try and pay for everything when we both are hanging out. I am cool with it.
Fail. This is classic entitled woman mentality of "What's his is ours, and what's mine is mine," and apparently you are "cool with it." Stop it. If she can't be bothered to show some reciprocity, then you shouldn't be shelling out your money for her benefit. Fvck that.
But whats bothering me is that she now insists that I don't work hard enough and she wants me to earn at least a six digit income so that we can lead a luxurious life.
So...she wants to piggyback off your success so that she doesn't actually have to play the game of life. Sounds like a great partner. *headdesk*
She herself earns a lot and currently, I earn more than she does! But since she is more educated than I am, I can foresee her earning more than me in future.
You make more than her....Full Stop.
If she wants to complain about how much you make, she should at least be on par with what you're making. Her education means almost nothing until something comes to fruition. Ask the people of the Occupy Wall Street movement about their thoughts on "projected income."
I used to work my ass off at work but lately I have been slacking off. My unsuccessful attempts to be an entrepreneur have failed as well. She has picked on this, and now thinks that I am not ambitious enough.
So perhaps you've been demotivated and need something/someone to put a fire under your @ss. From the sound of it, however, her methods are very toxic and condescending. I say this...if you have dreams, then chase them. However, don't over-extend yourself to the point of hitting a wall all because SOMEONE ELSE wants to benefit from YOUR accomplishments.
She thinks that a quality family life is possible only if I earn more than I do right now.
I think it's quite possible to have that life if SHE earns that 6-figure income that she requires of you. Perhaps she should try to motivate herself to being successful instead of trying to manipulate you into doing all of the legwork.
She's the educated one after all, right?
PLEASE tell me that you don't have a joint account with this woman.
mrcs84
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Do you believe in typical gender roles?
Posted: 3/29/2013 5:28:09 AM
If you take 100 men and 100 women all with similar type of jobs (ZERO high risk jobs) and take those who die as a result of an accident or suicide out of the study, study them for longevity, on average, the women will outlive the men. I am talking of death by natural causes.
Do you have any actual sources to cite? You know..a little more intellectual vigor than "the research out there."
They did a big study on this. Where did they get the data? From preists and nuns. They live an extremely similar life style.
Same goes to you. Who is "they?" And why not pick two jobs that -are- the same instead of two jobs that are -mostly- the same?
mrcs84
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With all the whining about men hold most CEO positions
Posted: 3/25/2013 5:54:54 AM
Pretty plain and simple Apex Fallacy.
Most CEOs are men so therefore lets apply that line of thinking to all men.
And the 2 big issues we see are:
1. Not enough women have the drive, ability, wherewithal to make it to being CEO status, and often times instead of creating their own ideas, that try to barge in with their claims of discrimination and simply piggy back off the successful men that did all the work (i.e. Facebook/Yahoo). After all women have "unique" ideas, but apparently said ideas only like to come to light AFTER the groundwork has been laid.
2. What was essentially touched upon, women aren't exactly rallying for the blue collar jobs. They would rather rally for "comparable pay" so they can continue working their pink collar jobs but get paid the same for doing -different- work.
mrcs84
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Do you believe in typical gender roles?
Posted: 3/21/2013 10:27:04 AM
I may be a little off base here, but when I think gender roles, I am concerning myself mostly with how she acts, not so much what her "duties" are. I want a woman that expresses feminine attributes. Seems that with this constant strive to compete with men, women have also adopted masculine traits as well. Living in Japan for the last 10 months has been quite an eye opener as to what it means to be feminine. I can see why so many servicemembers will extend their orders and/or retire over here.
I would still expect a partner who works at least part time and who cooks. As far as cleaning goes, I've have always been the cleaner person by comparison when looking at my past relationships.
mrcs84
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Question for Men! Help...
Posted: 3/17/2013 7:35:08 AM
The only time I really talk on the phone is with other guys, and when I am trying to make plans. You wanna go for hours talking a out xyz? I have unlimited texts for that. Conversations can be continual and intermittent at the same time.
mrcs84
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Cell phone etiquette
Posted: 3/11/2013 8:07:31 AM
Having your phone out on display? Fine.
Can't seem to pry yourself away from your phone for an hour? You're not worth my time.
I think the biggest indicator is juxtaposing how much time/effort is spent texting you vs how much time they are on the phone when you are I their presence.
People love to use the "I'm busy" excuse, but they sure have no problem with updating their Facebooks with drivel and texting a mile a minute to all their other friends.
It just seems to be getting worse with the younger generations.
mrcs84
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I've never dated a Single Mother before.. Advice?
Posted: 2/22/2013 2:59:32 AM
I'm 39 and never dated a Single Mother before, but it seems apparent more and more each day that might be my only option..
Pick up some PUA books, and learn game. Your problem sounds like women in general.
Look up bloggers like RooshV, The Private Man, and Chateau Heartiste. They have a lot of valuable (and free) information in regard to dating.
Stop being the nice guy, and don't feed into any "just be yourself" tripe. Obviously it has given you bad results this long. Time to try something new.
mrcs84
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He loves me he loves me not after pregnancy
Posted: 2/19/2013 2:01:57 PM
I'd suggest that as long as men are aware of the risk of 18-20 years of child support, they have just as urgent a reason to make sure they aren't fathering children they don't want, or at least that he and the woman are on the same page as far as after-the-fact options are concerned.
Heh, the term "deadbeat dad" tends to come to mind when talking about men's risks. The single mothers forums seem to be littered with stories of "that dude got me prego and he doesn't even pay child support."
If he says he's always willing to use a condom so she doesn't have to use the pill, how will she know he isn't poking holes in it? Or that it didn't 'accidentally' slip off?
They could do what I always do and fill it up with water and check for leaks afterward. I don't know about a woman, but I can tell quite a big difference if a condom has slipped off in the middle of gettin' busy. That, and there's always the fact that when he pulls out, it's not still attached. Condom misshaps are significantly easier to point out, and responsive action can be more immediate.
I also kind of find it hard to believe a man is trying to get a woman pregnant when the laws regarding child custody are so stacked against him. Moreover his deception can be prosecuted, especially if it involves tampering with any of her medically prescribed BC. Her deception gets overridden by "the best interests of the child." That's why women who statutorily rape little boys and get pregnant really see no punishment other than maybe a Scarlett letter. And then they can STILL file for child support.
Oh, and the claim that someone is sterile still doesn't mean they are free of STDs. So condoms still have their secondary function. And if a couple is willing to get tested together to prove they are both clean, it would also be prudent for the one who claims to be sterile to prove that as well.
And here you make the assumption that it is the woman's *incompetence*, rather than entertaining the idea that maybe the birth control just didn't work and that no fault can be attached.
Indeed I do. My primary source of protection has always been condoms regardless of what claims my partners have made, and I have not had any misshaps (*knock on wood*), and lets not forget that condoms are the least effective form of acceptable BC on the market. 4 pregnancies in my eyes can only suggest either deceit or human error. I'm just trying to give some benefit of the doubt.
Ah, the world we live in...
mrcs84
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He loves me he loves me not after pregnancy
Posted: 2/18/2013 7:39:20 PM
Why don't more men opt to have a vasectomy if they're so adamant against children or "forced fatherhood?" It seems like such a simple solution to me.
It's because vasectomies are meant to be permanent, and some men want kids EVENTUALLY. That's the main reason.
Other reasons include:
-being apprehensive about having a blade anywhere near the family jewels
-feeling like "less of a man."
-not wanting a decreased labido
-doctor says "no."
For instance, the protocol for vasectomies at the hospital I work at, the man has to be either married or divorced, he has to have at least 2 kids, and one of them has to be a male. It's actually surprising how many doctors will not perform a vasectomy on a childless man. They make the executive decision for men about whether or not they want kids. However I'm sure there are plenty of parents out there that wish they never had their kids, but that's not PC to talk about.
What do people value in society today, being a father or mother, or being a runaway?
People value owning up to your responsibilities and taking care of your children.
What people REALLY respect is when a man and a woman make a conscious effort to have a child when BOTH parties are at a time in their lives when they are physically, financially, and emotionally ready for it. It's also rather vexing that the people who prepare for childbirth seem to also be the ones with fertility issues, while there are plenty of "accidents" to go around.
mrcs84
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He loves me he loves me not after pregnancy
Posted: 2/18/2013 7:11:03 PM
I twisted nothing. That is how I read you, perhaps in future you should be clearer in your comments.
No...you're just being dense for no apparent reason.
Simply telling a man that they are going to be a father when they had made no preparations for it...
The "it" I was referring to being prepared for was "being a father." I shouldn't have to reiterate that when it's all encompassed in the same freaking sentence. Perhaps you should work on your comprehension skills so that the simplest of grammatical conventions don't need to need to be broken down Barney Style.
Welcome to the world of grown-ups Mrcs84. :)
Grown-ups can comprehend at an 8th grade level. Herp Derp
If you aren't prepared for a the contingency of pregnancy you shouldn't be having sexual intercourse until you are.
I'm not prepared, and yet I've gone this long without any kids being a product of my sexual experiences. Most people are fully aware of the risks. They are also aware that people can change their minds, and people can be deceitful. There are millions of sexually active, fertile people that have no children.
I don't know why the "if you're not ready, then don't have sex," phrase gets thrown around so much. It's an activity that is a HUGE part of modern society. Its everywhere from the media, to the legal system. Simply saying "just don't have it" will fall upon deaf ears more often than not. Lets just tell everyone to stop driving their cars if they aren't prepared to have a car accident. Go see how effective that is.
mrcs84
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He loves me he loves me not after pregnancy
Posted: 2/18/2013 6:28:24 PM
I don't agree that his "responsibility" stops at condom use. In my opinion, a man is responsible to know as much as about female birth control as he knows about male birth control.
Being wary of all that stuff is fine and dandy, but when it comes down to the act of sex, a man simply puts on the condom and possibly some spermicidal lube. That's it. The woman is responsible for her own birth control, and there is only so much monitoring that a man can do. He sees that there is 1 less pill in her dispenser than yesterday. Well good, but for all he knows she may have flushed it down the toilet instead of consuming it. Or perhaps she took it at the wrong time. A woman I know had both of her pregnancies while she was on the NuvaRing. Should her (now ex) husband have to continually check to see that it's in place properly? I mean how often should a man have to [essentially] question a woman's competence before the relationship starts being affected by it?
He should make sure he discusses "what-if" scenarios with any sexual partner, so they're both on the same page.
I certainly agree with this. I have turned down a few sexual partners because I asked the very direct question of "If we have sex, and you get pregnant, will you have the baby?" Anything other than a direct "no" leaves me walking away. "I really don't know," isn't good enough. "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it," isn't good enough. 30+ minutes of fun time is not worth years of turmoil because of someone else's executive decision.
We know how people are. We like to make a lot of dumb decisions once things get all hot and heavy. Derka Derka. Working in a military hospital, I hear my share of interesting stories.
Women have exactly the same responsibility in regards to birth control and discussion with potential sexual partners.
I would contest that statement with this comment:
I had 10 weeks of nausea vomiting, anemia, miscarriage, a d&c, and found out he father doesn't love me.
If anything women should have more responsibility. I sure as hell wouldn't go through all of the crap that women deal with during a pregnancy/abortion if I didn't have to. Not only that, but most of women's birth control options mess around with their hormones. That in and of it self is quite a big deal. Your day-to-day has to be compromised on some level simply because you don't want kids [yet].
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He loves me he loves me not after pregnancy
Posted: 2/18/2013 3:56:11 PM
Unbelievable! You would advocate the discussion of terminating a pregnancy prior to sex rather than the adult discussion of birth control and the responsibility of each party to use protection in preventing it prior.
Wrong..!
My adult discussion of birth control , would include a discussion on abortion attitudes
When its comes to birth control , women hold an unequalled power balance
Aww-Ree
You made a few posts on here in regard to the fact that contraception fails, and that failure rate goes up substantially when you factor in human error. So why is it obtuse to a man to determine what a woman will do in the event of a pregnancy?
THAT Marc, is lack of preparation...leaving the responsibility of birth control solely on your partner.
Twisting my words around doesn't bode well for the conversation.
-I was talking about being -prepared- to rear children.
-You're trying to change that into being -prepared- to fornicate.
From experience some of us actually know better than to leave the "responsibility" of anything left up to a female or the medical profession. I chose my orifices wisely. Crude but, true.
Indeed. Trusting that they have both the integrity AND the competence to use their birth control properly seems like quite the tall order. Seriously, PLANNED pregnancies seems like the exception anymore and not the rule. It's ok though, it's just the next 18+ years of your lives.
MEN have been known to lie about having a vasectomy, to substitute birth control pills, to poke holes in condoms in order to undermine a woman's birth-control measures.
And yet even then, women still have options as to terminate the pregnancy. The only post-conception options that I've seen for men in regard to terminating the pregnancy include slipping an abortion pill into her food or pushing her down the stairs. Those 2 "options" that result in time behind bars.
The brass tacks of this whole thing is that the guy the OP is talking about is another that ran when she said "Oops, I'm pregnant, and I'm going to keep it." This trend is nothing new. People can shake their fists and sling names around, but this is very much a part of life. With regards to prevention for sexually active people, men's responsibility pretty much stops at condom use. It's not hard to tell if the man has brought a condom, and it's certainly not hard for women to buy their own either.
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He loves me he loves me not after pregnancy
Posted: 2/17/2013 5:41:58 AM
Did you ever have the "baby" talk, or did you simply assume that he would go along with whatever choice YOU made with any accidental pregnancies?
I don't necessarily condone how he handled things, though I wouldn't so so far as to call this guy a loser either. Simply telling a man that they are going to be a father when they had made no preparations for it is quite the pill to swallow. I would not equate knowing that you're not ready/willing to have a child [yet] to being a loser.
Here's another question, how ready are YOU to have a child? I mean, you're on birth control for a reason, right?
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19 and a single mother,
Posted: 2/17/2013 3:34:54 AM
just being curious , will men be put off that Im a single mother to a seventeen year old baby girl, not only that but i can never put a guy first in my life and have trust issues , I am a overprotective mother, will this put all you guys off or have i a chance to not be a cat woman for the next 80 years, ha ha xx
Well, think about it this way...
Would you date a young single father who is overprotective of his kid and has truct issues...?
Don't forget the part with the "I can never put a guy first."
Next 80 years? I'm sure your daughter will will grow up in 18-21 years and move out of the house. You're setting up a nice foundation for her success, right? Do you think it would be a good thing for her to follow your footsteps? I mean, you think of yourself as a level-headed individual, I'm sure. You've made educated decisions. What life plan do you want her to follow?
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would you marry for money?
Posted: 2/15/2013 12:22:29 AM
most of the people who SAID they would marry for money are men
most of the people who DO marry for money are women
Most men don't look for rich women, or even women who are more well-off than they are. Then again, money isn't really a criteria that men have on their checklist. I would say that your average man would certainly chase after a rich woman he thought he may have a chance, but the reality of it is that it rarely is an option. Joe Schmoe is usually just happy if his woman isn't too much of a financial burden to him.
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Whats with the fear of the words I wanna get to know you
Posted: 2/8/2013 9:09:55 AM
Why are the pretty ones always so dumb?
It's because they really have no incentive to be smart. There will always be a guy somewhere that will chase them and essentially play replacement father so that they never have to really grow up. The power attraction is rather mind-boggling. How someone looks can do anything from getting out of that traffic ticket to getting the job over someone more qualified to getting chased by potential suitors over another. Being an unattractive female is equivalent to being a male. She has to actually prove her worth.
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Should performing a background check on a potential bf/gf be considered as a sign of insecurity?
Posted: 2/7/2013 3:49:41 AM
Personally, I think you may want to do the same. It levels the playing field, and I've known a few girls that has one too many restraining orders that they had dished out to guys. The last thing I need is a girl like that in my residence.
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Substitution for Tobacco
Posted: 2/7/2013 1:27:55 AM
gum and/or sunflower seeds seem to be alternatives for people who are trying to quit.
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Why manly when a woman works out?
Posted: 2/7/2013 12:51:13 AM
Why is it if a woman keeps herself in shape and lifts weights and yes i have
larger shoulders im asked stupid questions like am i a woman? Hell yes im all woman and whats wrong with taking care of myself at age 59. Nobody ever believes im that age.
The way you phrased the question is a bit misleading. I think most guys would prefer a woman that works out and takes care of their body. However, most guys don't want a woman that is jacked to the point where she starts losing her feminine features (more square jaw, calloused hands, broad shoulders, etc.). They are especially apprehensive about women who are as big if not bigger than they are. At your age, the trend for a man's size is to go down. It's no surprise that fitness-minded people tend to gravitate toward other fitness-minded people.
Being fit in and of itself is not the issue here.
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Whats with the fear of the words I wanna get to know you
Posted: 2/6/2013 8:11:47 AM
But I do have standards
I know what i want in someone
I came across this song that pretty much describes you (and entirely too many women) to a "T".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0
BTW, you talk about not being judgemental, but you certainly are passing judgement when you compare potential suitors to your standards of whether or not you will grace them with your presence.
Pardon me? who are you to judge me? you dont know me.
Yes, you're a unique snowflake....just like everyone else. *headdesk*
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asked how many women I've met from here
Posted: 2/5/2013 6:04:05 AM
I think it's a question that you should respond with sarcasm. There are entirely too many possible things that she could be trying to pry from you based on such a seemingly simple question. Something along the lines of "I lost count after about 96. I'm actually glad I could pencil you in," may make for a nice deflection. I feel like a question like this is almost akin to asking how many past sexual partners you've had.
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Whats with the fear of the words I wanna get to know you
Posted: 2/5/2013 3:32:46 AM
I never judge people based on looks, yes attraction to someones looks is nice, but you can meet the best lookin person ever, but they can be the rudest, biggest ***hole ever. or have the worst personality. Personality comes first.
Any @sshole can be Rico Suave on the internet. When a guy has time to proof read and revise what he wants to say, its easy to create some imaginary character. Honestly how much "getting to know you" does there need to be before you are ready to go out on a date?
Maybe you should try this: Come up with ten or so questions that you want to have answered by your prospective date(s). If he doesn't meet the [arbitrary] criteria that you have for a man, then you tell him that you're not interested. That way, you can save everyone some grief. You could even request that he send questions of his own after you are done with your pre-screening. You could use this process your fast-track your emails to finding mister right! THEN.....when you actually do go on a date with this umm..."lucky" dude, you can expound on the answers that each of you gave. It'll keep the conversation going for quite some time. How freaking cool is that?!
A lot of people use online dating as a way of seeing the person for their personality and not just their looks. Looks isnt everything. you cant judge a book by its cover. so when it comes to online dating, people dont feel that they are being too quick to judge. when u meet someone face to face, your first impression is based on their looks, and how they smile at you. you cant judge that online, so people feel that people are wanting to get to know them for who they are and not just what they look like.
Appearance is H-U-G-E in the online dating scene. I'm willing to bet the mass majority of people who are looking for a partner have their account set so that they don't even view profiles that don't have a picture. Probably the most common phrase you will see on Craigslist is "no pic no reply." You get so much more information from a face-to-face encounter. You get everything from speech patterns to mannerisms to their little quirks. No guy is going to openly tell you via email that he has no reservations about scratching his crotch in public or that he cusses like a sailor (sailor, lol).
I mean, just from what I have read from your replies, I would assume that you don't take criticism well and that you're either incompetent or lazy when it comes to your spelling and grammar. Perhaps I would get a better understanding of you if I were to talk to you in person, but that's the kind of personality you portray through your writing. Is that the kind of person that -you- think you are? BTW, your profile is essentially a long-winded cliche'.
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Definition of financially secure
Posted: 1/29/2013 6:13:53 AM
To me, financially secure means that your savings account gets larger at the end of each month.
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dating without motorcycle
Posted: 1/29/2013 6:11:15 AM
Men who own motorcycles are largely the minority. Whether or not you own one has little bearing on the quality of woman you can get.
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How do you get a womans attention in the real world
Posted: 1/28/2013 8:04:34 AM
It bores down to having enough courage to start a conversation with her. In much of the PUA community, it is suggested that you find conversation starters that don't give off a vibe of "I'm looking for a girlfriend, and that's why I'm talking to you right now." Being a regular guy, you have to do things that set you apart from the other regular guys. Just saying things like, "hi, my name is...I'd like to get to know you better" will get you shut down more than it will be successful. Women have heard that tired song and dance entirely too many times. Some examples that I've seen include:
"I like salad, but I don't like croutons. Does that seem odd to you?"
"Do you floss before or after you brush?"
"I need a female's opinion. My friend has some old pictures of his ex. They're nothing dirty, but he has them as keepsakes. What do you think about his girlfriend wanting him to throw them away?"
You have to have be prepared to take conversations in some kind of a direction though. You can only talk about salad or dental hygiene so long before the conversation fizzles out and you lose her interest. Sometimes it flows naturally, but if it doesn't you need to have some kind of a game plan. Either that, or you just drop it and move on to the next girl.
There's your crash course on "openers." Heh
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Discrepancy in income - your thoughts/experiences?
Posted: 1/28/2013 7:50:39 AM
Lovelyandalady -
If you learn how to use the quote feature, it will probably save you a lot of grief. Stand-alone Copy/Paste, as you can see, isn't exactly the best method to address specific people, especially when others are sifting through the posts and selectively reading.
I am also wondering if all your posts are some sort of attempt to boost you ego with all your claims of many suitors. You seem to consistently want to brag to others about all the men who are falling at your feet and how you reject so many of them because you are not attracted to them. It appears you enjoying slamming others for their opinions and seem to be holier than thou..
Cosign
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Opinions on younger single moms?
Posted: 1/25/2013 12:35:51 PM
2 posts in, and the OP has already left the building. Haha
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She wants to be just friends. Is there a chance for more?
Posted: 1/23/2013 3:58:28 AM
Ross Jeffries has quite a bit of literature on getting out of the friend zone. However, for most guys I would just suggest that you tell her that you aren't looking for yet another friend, and proceed to cut ties with her.
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Paternity fraud might come to an end
Posted: 1/22/2013 8:18:36 AM
link to the article:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/11/prenatal-testing-earlier-and-more-accurate-than-ever/264472/#
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Discrepancy in income - your thoughts/experiences?
Posted: 1/18/2013 6:00:31 PM
So, at the end of the day, my opinion is - a man is not a man unless he is not capable of providing for himself at the very least.
Baffling how this doesn't ring true for women, even with women "supposedly" being independent. But then again, it still seems to be that women still have to tout that they are independent, while for men, it's pretty much a given. A stay-at-home mom is far from being a woman if he had to follow by the standards that are set for men.
The standards are certainly different between men and women. A woman is significantly more likely to get a "pass" for being a financial burden than a man is. Personally, I blame it on the prevalence of so many pvssy beggars, combine with men being a little more realistic about what they can get as far as a partner is concerned. Honestly, I don't think this mystery guy would even be chasing after Ms Curviest if his finances were in order. As Tom Leykis likes to say, "your girlfriend's weight is inversely proportional to how much money you make."
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drink and smoke, frequency vs amount
Posted: 1/18/2013 12:41:52 AM
I put socially......I have had 2 beers in the past year.
2 beers in the past 18 days? Man I'm impressed. Lol
Yeah, I think about some of the screenings that I've been through and if I told them that I drink a beer a day, and drink quite a bit on one of my weekend days, they would probably assume that I'm a raging alcoholic. I think "socially" is probably the best bet for people that drink, but they don't have to get drunk more than once a week.
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Would you do this?
Posted: 1/17/2013 1:25:39 AM
I would consider it a worthwhile investment to show my kids, among others, not to drive drunk....and I am sure the vision of me burning that truck down in the cow pastures with a gallon of lighter fluid in one hand and a match in the other would scare them straight well into their adult years, so they would NEVER drive drunk. And any kid who does dare to drive drunk, the others will be whispering "dont do it man, dont you remember what O and C's crazy ole redneck mama did when they got busted driving drunk"....
Then they would work the rest off.
The Peter Pan "It won't happen to me" complex overrides your rationalization. But hey, at least you'll have peace and quiet because your children's friends would never want to come over. You're "the crazy parent that overreacted."
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Would you do this?
Posted: 1/16/2013 6:34:48 AM
Sell off the car? yes.
Air out my dirty laundry like that? No
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One take on why some men won't date a woman with kids
Posted: 1/16/2013 6:31:29 AM
Well said, hun. Too many people judge and give mothers hard time. We may be mothers, but that's not the only thing that defines who we are. We are much more and probably better to date than girls who lead single selfish lives.
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Some people just go out of their ways to urinate all over the English language.
VTEC-
Indeed, it sounds like she's saying "childless = selfish." Firstly, I think she's wrong. Secondly, I don't think being selfish is necessarily a bad thing.
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ready for the next step but the other person isn't? what to do?
Posted: 1/16/2013 12:54:37 AM
As usual, if the other person has an issue, kick them to the curb and find someone better instead of trying to work things out. That seems to be the motto of the average POF forumite. The general attitude here kind of makes me wonder how my parents (or other older couples) have been together 37 years as of this past December, especially when they bicker/argue as much as they do.
OP, have you actually seen any progress in how he acts and him breaking down his walls, or has he just been completely guarded this whole time? Consider that you may be close to the point of a transition.
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how to get child support payments lowered?
Posted: 1/12/2013 12:03:19 AM
So, new debts are acquired, and yet it is simply expected that the child maintains their lifestyle. Your priciples are overridden by pragmatism. That's especially true when you tell one parent to suck it up and work more and/or find a better job to support a child that they barely see. Even in a good economy, people can't just find better work at a drop of a hat.
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