Most men I know who hoard their money from their kids...often end up choaking on it! ...just sayin Tealwood!

Amazed my old thread was resurrected although I am sure I was not the first to experience this kind of thing. I never did get one red cent from him for my daughter- she is still at university and mostly supporting herself with occasional cries for financial help to me

Skip the American advice, don't go see a lawyer (unless you have other matters to deal with too) as you will end up just paying for them to tell you to take it up with CSA, who you'll likely need to talk to as they are the best for tracking down such matters.
No Doouglass, parental responsibility ends at 18

What was the Outcome?

The Court found that:

•It was the expectation in this family that the parents would provide some level of financial support (if it was available to them) for the child to pass through school or university.
• In this situation it was necessary for the parents to provide the adult child with a level of financial support.
It was not unreasonable for the adult child to provide for half of his financial needs.

In deciding whether Child Maintenance should be awarded, the Judge gave regard to the following considerations:
•The Father would not be asked for any advice or guidance in regards to the child’s academic decisions;
•The Father would most likely not receive any “thanks” for the financial support; and
•The Father would not be able to enjoy the child’s academic achievements.

The Court took into account the fact that the Mother and Father had similar incomes and earning potential. However, as the adult child had been estranged from the Father for several years, the Judge did not think it was “necessarily proper” that both parents contribute to the adult child’s financial support equally.

The Court Ordered that the Father contribute 20% of the child’s expenses, which amounted to $3000 per year. The payment was to be made in a lump sum, as it was likely the Father would only provide the maintenance under duress. The sum of $12,000 (for the remaining 4 years of study) was Ordered to be invested in an interest bearing account and released in $3,000 instalments at the beginning of each year during the years the son would be engaged in study.

However, we are not emotionally involved and have been separated since Nov 2011. I am emotionally available for the RIGHT woman.

A woman with good moral standing and self respect typically does not seek men that are separated. Simply stated, you are still a married man. Until that changes, your selection may be slim. There may never be a chance of reconciliation between you and your estranged wife, however, women reading your profile don't know that.

In my limited experience in the dating world, it seems like women are drawn to butt holes.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/03/24/chinas_girl_students_losing_out_to_bias.html

China’s girl students losing out to bias
In the fiercely competitive race for university spots, some boys are being admitted with lower entrance scores

Chinese girls have become victims of their own success. They are scoring higher and higher on standardized tests, prompting universities that want roughly equal gender enrolment to accept less-qualified male students. It is tantamount to affirmative action for boys and it is making many young women furious.

Scouring the websites for evidence of discrimination, women’s rights activists have discovered even higher gaps for foreign language and performing arts majors.

Women’s groups are trying to put together a lawsuit — if they can find a plaintiff willing to go to court.

A lot of catch and release here on POF, for sure. And I agree, it's not just a single parent issue. It's a human instinct and morality issue. I have trouble finding people with that standard even within most churches, so it's impossible to find them on this site. At least, in my experience.

Learning/Education are important: MA in Family Counseling and my BA in Theology with an emphasis Applied Linguistics(Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Syriac, Coptic, Aramaic). I am a counselor; with a passion for children and families. Probably the coolest part of my job is working with kids. IQ and emotional maturity are vastly more important to me than age. I'm not going to be like oh, she's perfect, except she's 20/40. Age is a number. IQ is a number that counts.

James 4:12 God alone, who gave the law, is the Judge. He alone has the power ... There is only one Lawgiver and Judge—the one who can save and destroy. So who are you to ... Who are you to sit in judgement on your fellow man?

So, we're saying now that only men who are stupid and have no chance of being anything in their future date single mothers? That's a wee bit offensive. I, for example, have a nearly 2 year old, and my boyfriend, whom is not my son's father, is very successful.

I'm not a single mom but have friends that are and they all have successful, good looking& fit boyfriends and only one of them has a child of his own. I find they're actually more selective with even higher standards as they can't have just anyone around their kids.
These women take care of themselves and look good, so it really depends on the person!

It's funny how so many average to below guys will come on here and post ignorant things towards single moms.

Guys you are not some great catch just because you don't have kids, I know (gasp) shocker, right?? Lol...

You feel sorry for him?

He just recently told me he still wants to see me, while seeing other women.

And why do I worry about the women he could date?

I get worried about who my ex is going to date and bring around my kids

You each have to trust each other enough to make sound sensible decisions with regards your childs welfare.

I also don't know when or how to meet a new man, I am home with my kids most of the time and work. I am only free Friday nights when they are at their dad's house.

Im not bringing men around my children until I know its serious and I know we are going to be headed down the aisle.
Im keeping my children away until I know its real

He started hooking up with women the week he moved out.

The thought of him with girl after girl angers me.

Most people say I look better in person, I guess im not bad lol!!! I say just chill and have fun,relax,dont take life so seriously ,smmmiiilllleeee!!!!!

Only those willing to pay or who like stable jobs and addresses will ever pay/be garnisheed

It's stated plainly, right in the second paragraph

K when u learn other language as well as I did Englush than judge me. Yes English is not my native language. Until than shut the hell up bc u know nothing about me

^^^You are missing the point tealwood, went right over your head.

I made the mistake of trying to rekindle dating someone

You learned he's not good relationship material and at the same time you got your hormones balanced, you probably needed some sex and he was no more than a convenient lay and a little dating practice getting ready for a real man. That's all he was good for....just practice. Take a shower and rinse that man right out of your hair and put on your best clothes, or go buy some new ones and get ready for the real deal to come your way.

He's beneath you and not worth another second of your time. Now go have some fun!

Good grief.

Not wanting to deal with someone else's kids and everything that comes with it (like last minute cancellations, crazy ex wives or husbands who are always in the picture, not having much free time alone because they always have their kids, rarely being able to do something impulsive because the parent can't get away for the weekend without an act of congress, and the list goes ON) doesn't make someone 'shallow.' It just means it's NOT a lifestyle relationship they care to take part of. "Shallow" is when someone judges another superficially purely on their looks or their worth. It has nothing to do with not wanting to deal with someone's kids. Jesus.

I just love how you claim people are so 'shallow' because they don't want to date you because 'your kids are your world,' then your very next sentence tells exactly why they don't want to date you - because they'll ALWAYS be "second place." Gee, I can't imagine why tons of people aren't literally knocking each other down to be first in line to sign up for that.

That does make you shallow. Deal with it.

Being a single parent is hard enough. Yes i want the person to know that my child comes first and no we cant just pick up and have hook ups and go out spur of the moment but the thing that upsets me is that you guys automatically assume because we are single mothers that we are looking for a daddy for our children! sorry no! thats not the ccase. I can take care of myself and my child i dont need a mans help which i have proven and been single through most my childs life im looking for a companion not because I need one but becuase I want one to share my life with.

^^^You don't..You can't do that without being biased and that is not fair to your kids.
If you kids ask about their Mom, tell them you don't really know the answer to why their Mom dosen't visit.
Make sure they know they are safe with you and always will be no matter what.

I think once you have kids you need to be ten times as picky about who you date.

I think you missed my point, or I wasn't clear enough or whatever. It's fine, probably my fault. I'm personally not complaining, I know the shakes. The problem we have here is that people thinking that a kid is baggage in a negative sense, and that a single parent who has done the right thing and taken the reigns in this little persons life is passed up for somebody less responsible and much less dependable...even by other women who have kids. Just an observation.

Why can't we get dates? Because women are just as shallow as men. Of course who ever we date will come second to our kids.

12.) You blame your ex for all your child's behavior problems

Baggage comes with life, it's baffling that the good baggage...like raising and taking care of kids on our own..like being incredibly responsible...can be such a turn off by so many.

Once again, your attempts at bullying fail. Your continued harassment of me,

It is your preconceived misconception & lack of comprehension, I imagine, that leads you to your stated conclusion, as I have said nothing of the sort. It becomes clearer & clearer, as you continue to post, that you do in fact feel that bullying will bring you victory. I feel sorry for your offspring.

You have demonstrated nothing more than that you like to argue & enjoy the role of schoolyard bully. It's not about being right, it's about not sitting idly by while you attempt to take my posts taken out of context.

Filing for divorce is not exactly the same as "forcing a man out of his home". Your stats prove nothing at all. To be honest, perhaps if more men actually did acknowledge potential problems their wives wouldn't be filing for divorce in the first place.

At least acknowledge that this is changing, as more men are taking active roles in the lives & parenting responsibilities of their children than ever before. The truth is that when fathers dispute custody, they tend to prevail, and joint custody is rapidly gaining favor. This is a good thing, no?

Any idea or statistics regarding the number of married individuals who have filed for divorce against a partner who abused them?

Soooo let me get this right, your saying that if the parents share 50% custody and 50% legal custody, the parent that makes more should pay 80% and the parent that makes less should pay 20% or numbers similar depending on what is actually made for raising the child?? Because if thats what your saying....I say you make absolutely no sense at all, your math is jacked up and I'm done talking to you and this lady's and gentleman is how our CS system works.

Your statement only furthers my belief that you have an agenda to pursue. From whence did you ascertain this "overwhelming majority"?

"The Divorce Experience: A Study of Divorce at Midlife and Beyond"

AARP The Magazine, found that 66 percent of women claimed to have initiated their split.

Two-Thirds of the Time
It’s the wife who files for divorce in about two-thirds of divorce cases, at least among couples who have children. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the proportion has changed slightly over the years; for example, in 1975, approximately 72 percent of the divorces in the U.S. were filed by women, whereas by 1988, only about 65 percent were filed by women.

A study reported in the American Law and Economics Review in 2000, "These Boots Are Made for Walking: Why Most Divorce Filers are Women" also showed that more recently, women file more than two-thirds of divorce cases in the US. Even though the individual states’ data vary somewhat and the numbers have fluctuated over time, throughout most of the 19th century about 60 percent of divorce filings were by women.

Moreover, in some of the states where no-fault divorce was introduced, over 70 percent of the divorce filings were by women. Among college-educated couples, the percentage of divorces initiated by wives is a whopping 90 percent.

It hardly seems like parents are concerned with the lifestyles of their children, when they turn to divorce on a whim, rather than sticking it out and, you know, RESOLVING their differences.

consequences are, for the most part those that would logically follow a specific action, age appropriately. If a 12 yr old with a cell phone is told that bedtime is 9PM,

I got rapped on the knuckles with a wooden spoon by Mom once when I was about four - that's all it took. My brothers and I would go to church and want to crawl under the pews - it's always a tough thing to control energetic kids in church, but Mom would open her purse and show us the spoon - that veiled threat - showing us she was still 'packin' heat - was enough.

Rules were made to be broken...boundaries were made to be bent or to be twisted and pushed to see how far you could expand the supposed line in the ground.

find it interesting that IQ tests are dismissed when it is mentioned that there are race-based differences, but they're all of a sudden Revealed Truth when it comes to parenting...

Please don't attempt to present my argument as anything other than what it is. Certainly, when a primary breadwinner loses their source of income, entire families have to sacrifice. For the majority of parents, the sacrifice is borne most heavily on the adults in the circumstance. We do whatever we can to provide our children with what they have to come to be comfortable with, what the parents have decided that those children should have. My response was to a post suggesting that children of parents who decide to separate find themselves in a position which sets all children at the same level, as, if you read back, the post stated that cs be set in relation to cost of living rather than income level. Please take your unrelenting agenda elsewhere.

Don't be such an azz! I AM the primary breadwinner in my family, and I am quite confident stating that I likely know more about sacrifice than you, and certainly more than you imagine.

you were, perhaps, enough of a doormat to not speak up & allowed your partner to run roughshod over your finances is on you. I try very hard to retain a quality of life for my children that was decided for them, by my ex husband and myself together, not by a standard of living set by uninterested parties, and in spite of his shift in priorities. Certainly we have adjusted and our priorities have shifted, but I do what I can to allow my children to retain the largest portion of what they enjoy the most. Give it a rest with your arguments of x percentage of custodial moms. Perhaps you have found yourself wallowing in a bit too much of the "happy horsesh&t" left from your days on the farm, but I'm not buying it.

one mother who took cues from her baby about when she was working too much. So she worked less, survived on less...and cried for all the cs she could get.

why do you think the system should be based on cost of living, rather than aimed at keeping a child in a situation, financially speaking, that both parents decided that the child would live in? If a child has been raised in an environment that allows them to have music lessons, dance classes, a pool, etc., why should the child sacrifice those things?

It's about putting YOURSELF in a position where your child pays attention; it's about teaching appropriate consequences for inappropriate behaviors.

Tealwood: you are lying. I never took away from my child any presents she received from her father's family. The issue then was a very different one. Your comments are demagogic, but that's a byproduct of your usual hatred for single mothers.

I, for one, am NOT saying that a swat is necessarily abusive, but I am stating that is is NEVER necessary, nor is it effective, as far as teaching a child proper behavior. Physical actions towards a child are nothing more than an outlet for a parent; perhaps a means of gaining control or stopping a particular behavior at that moment, but never a means of relaying appropriate behavior for any situation.

the mom turned out to be a nothing, and I have a nice support system that includes a sitter

I have in no way authorised this woman to post pictures of my child.

unauthorised picture

My state is a 50/50 state. meaning both parents get equal custody automatically unless something occurs that creates the need for that to change

Joint Legal Custody: Joint legal custody means that both parents have the legal authority to make major decisions for the child. It should be noted that parents can potentially share "joint legal custody" without having "joint physical custody."

Joint Physical Custody: This form of child custody is also called "Shared Custody," "Shared Parenting," or "Dual Residence." In this situation, the child/ren live with one parent for part of the week (or part of the year), and live with the other parent during the remaining time. The division of time spent at each location is approximately equal.

And if you have time and the MPP secretary hasn't hung up on you yet...ask them how you can track down the Bio Father's who have either abandoned their kids or just denied them.

but i do find alot of women dont want men with kids unless they have children already

I too am a sole parent who doesn't get child support. Sure, I have my court order but I don't get it and I've never received it. So with that understood, just who do you think is paying my family's bills? I am. Single mothers aren't living in boxes under the railway bridge waiting to be rescued!

I would be perfectly fine with paying for 3/4 of the bills if someone was that extreme based on the two I have at home,

Some of us single mothers work our arses off, have homes nicer than yours, no debt, and pay all their bills. Or is the concern only applicable when your financial situation is better than ours and no longer relevant when the situation is reversed?

Men get mad at women for this, but heck they will stick that pole in anything that walks... Adjustments can be made on both sides of this fence..... Just saying...

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012, a baby from Abbott Northwestern Hospital in Apple Valley, Minnesota was sent to the wrong mother while his biological mother slept.

On October 10, 2011, it was discovered that two Russian newborn girls were switched 12 years ago in a town in the Ural Mountains. The truth emerged after the ex-husband of one of the mothers refused to pay alimony for the child on the basis that she looked nothing like him.

On December 9, 2006, two newborn girls were switched in a hospital in the Czech town of Trebic. The families did not find out until September 2007, when a couple of friends of one of the fathers made fun of him for not being the biological father of the baby. DNA tests proved that the girl was indeed switched.

In 2001, it was reported that a 35-year-old woman from the Canary Islands had discovered that she was one of a set of identical twins and that she had been accidentally switched at birth with another girl. She grew up as an only child, until a friend of her twin mistook her for being that twin.

In 1998, it was discovered that Callie Johnson and Rebecca Chittum had been switched at birth in 1995 in Charlottesville, Virginia. The switch was discovered when a DNA test of Callie Johnson to determine paternity for child support found that she was not biologically related to either her purported father, Carlton Conley, or her purported mother

In 1992, it was discovered that Canadians Brent Tremblay and Marcus Holmes had been switched at birth 21 years earlier. The error was discovered when Brent and his twin, George Holmes, met each other at Carleton University in Ottawa.


The cases of the children of two South African women, Margaret Clinton-Parker and Sandra Dawkins, whose sons were accidentally switched at birth in 1989,

Kimberly Mays and Arlena Twigg were switched at birth as a result of a medical error in a hospital in Wauchula, Florida;[7] the

In 1953, at Pioneer Memorial Hospital in Heppner, Oregon, two babies were switched. In May 2009 the women discovered they were switched.

In 1951, a hospital in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin, the babies of Mary Miller and Kay McDonald were accidentally switched.

In 1931, at the Leiden University Medical Center, the girl babies Agnes van Vegten and Lenie van Duyn were switched. Suspicions didn't rise until two decades later, when the girls met at

if blokes are shallow enough to turn woman down due to the fact that they have chi;ldren then there not worth it ;)

i have a little boy who is 4 but unfortunately lives near dover so i only get to see him every other weekend which im gutted about

and who is not controlling and obsessive which going by my past partners i have not yet come across lol

I am single mum and every New Year is becoming more and more of a lonely time...kids not welcomed to most of the New Years parties and the rest of places that do invite kids are either rubbish or really expensive...I do have friends but many of them either go back to their countries to be with their families, or go to parties (where kids not invited) so for the 4 year I feel a real pressure - WHAT TO DO FOR NEW YEAR? My son said to me the other day: "Mum, I am not really looking forward to Xmas and New Year, it's just going to be like an ordinary day for me I guess..." That's so painful to hear :(

Do you people have some ideas, or nice traditions that you can share to make this time of the year more bearable? Please share, I am sure I am not the only one on here who has this problem...

From my experience, the best approach is too have a family meeting to discuss the guidelines, expectations and parenting plan before a custodial parent reliquishes custody to the NCP (or in your case Dad), so that there is a clear and decisive plan. Being a parent is a thankless job at times..and what kid would't want to live at a house with no rules!!

I do agree that a boy needs a male role model and even though there are some things my ex is not a good role model for, in other ways he is decent.

If I would of known this was going to happen, I would of stayed, I really wish I would of stayed now.

I still think this is a manipulation from his father. If dad is asking my son "if he is okay with going back and forth" when it is time to come to my house, it is obviously playing on my son's mind.

^^^Exactly what I was thinking m_church.

Single moms are so unrealistic when it comes to relationships and their children. I guess that's another reason on the huge list as to why most of them are still single. Lmao

*Shake my damn head

I am skeptical of the odds in finding a suitable date, let alone someone to have a relationship with, as a single father. Personally I have found that the dating pool has little potential. Before you rip that statment apart let me explain.

1. I live in a sparsely populated Nebraska town. (smart people get out early and only come back to visit)
2. I am at an awkward age. I'm 29 years old...which puts me in-between the younger less experienced single mothers, and the more experienced and established lady. Most women that I am interested in are not interested in me after they find out I'm a single father. Women in my age group seem to be interested in other things. ie: Establishing their own familys with childless men, or they party hardy.
3. As a single father I consider that my freetime is owed to my children. I find it difficult to put myself out there in my shallow pool with the feeling that taking a chance only ends in rejection or failure to launch.

I can only ask if anyone else has had difficulties like mine and how to find success in rural farmville

I can relate to where your going with that but,I won't turn this into a contest. Just believe me when I say that I've dealt with a lot with my son's mother. In Alberta it's 50-50 now.

In Canada, family law is primarily statute-based. The exclusive jurisdiction of the federal government handles marriage and divorce under section 91(26) of the Constitution Act, 1867 and is legislated under the Divorce Act. Pursuant to the Divorce Act and relevant case law, the federal government has jurisdiction over custodial and access matters and spousal and child support during or after divorce.[1] The provinces have exclusive jurisdiction over the solemnization of marriage under section 92(12) of the Constitution Act, 1867 and jurisdiction over spousal and child support, property division, custody and access, adoption, and child protection as part of the provincial government's jurisdiction over property and civil rights under section 92(13) of the Constitution Act, 1867 and jurisdiction over matters of a private nature under section 92(16) of the Act. Each province has an Act that addresses the rules of property division.[2]

Joint Custody
Custody refers to the right to make the important decisions in a child's life: decisions such as where the child goes to school, medical treatment, religious upbringing, and so on.

Because they are "yes" women (insert rolly eye here)