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kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

Msg: 152 (view)

Is she too young for me? Posted: 11/15/2009 12:54:24 PM
Who cares, date who you want. Funny thing about these forums tho, no damn way to tell if someone is lying or telling the truth. Seems to be quite a few storytellers in these forums as a whole. Damn good ones at that. Oh well, forums make good fiction.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Breaking up and reading POF comments from the loser Posted: 11/11/2009 2:22:44 AM
Hey Pedro leave us Hungarians out of it

kim247365

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looking for intimate encounters on pof Posted: 11/8/2009 12:25:12 PM
MrY thats alotta bs, funny but bs nontheless. I changed mine from IE to other relationship, therefore I can still make it whatever I want it to be just like those that have LTR but oops have sex on the second or third date. I'm just honest about it and what I want. The only difference is what the stated type of relationship is that your looking for, but peoples behaviors indicate otherwise so when he/she dont come back they can cry foul and still appear proper to a bunch of strangers in forum (cause we all know how important that is on POF - Plenty of Foolishness).

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Phone Sex and Faking It Posted: 11/7/2009 5:00:32 PM
Sometimes men gotta phone sex like when simultaneously their magazines have finally sealed themselves shut and the keyboard is too sticky. If you can't do it in real time nothing better than hearing what one is thinking about doing to your P or your T or your C or your A with their T or their F or their C or their oh crap figure it out already this damn keyboard is sticking again, lol.

kim247365

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Msg: 32 (view)

real life Posted: 11/7/2009 3:45:53 PM
Cause were all just plenty of fish waiting to be caught and usually end up gutted (something people think they can avoid online). Ready, set, get your worms ready......Goooooo

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

Msg: 36 (view)

Dating someone who you`re sexually compatible but nothing more? Posted: 11/7/2009 11:22:24 AM
Comon now aaamm he did say in his first sentence it was "strictly hypothetical", oh now i'm shaking my head, never mind his response in msg 25 blew that white lie up or wait is the msg 25 a lie, crap.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Sex...Hurts? Posted: 11/6/2009 1:08:13 PM
Ok thats good, it is just possible he is too long for you and is hitting tht wall. This is how women figure out just how much penis is the good size for them or how much penis needs to find the opening out the nose. (ok not plausible) Def talk with him and experiment away so he knows just how deep he can go without causing you pain. I had an 11 do a number on me YIKES, so i FEEL your pain. Good Luck.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Sex...Hurts? Posted: 11/6/2009 12:37:56 PM
No your not broken. He is more than likely just slightly that much longer than the one from your past, enough to be reaching your cervix. Communication with your man is key here so its all the time, every time pleasurable for you both. A side note: if there was any spotting afterwards and your cramping best to see the gyno.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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This one I could use some help on.... Posted: 11/1/2009 4:39:05 PM
Well i see your in Venice which probably means your hitting the bars up and down 41 from Sarasota to possibly Ft Myers, seriously the women in those bars are only seeking attention and nothing else (well maybe their next high from some type of drug or alcohol courtesy of your wallet). You know as well as I do there are plenty of avenues for you to meet women who are better than that (Sarasota is loaded with places to go and things to do). Make better selections, check out the Tribune to see whats going on in the area. Good Luck

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Disgusted yet Not Flattered Posted: 11/1/2009 4:20:48 PM
There is nothing wrong with your pictures. Your a pretty girl with a nice figure, lighten up. I am curious tho, you say in your profile your violent, do you head butt dudes on the streets who look at your tit*s?

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

Msg: 326 (view)

Sex on a First Date - Does it Kill a Potential Relationship? Posted: 10/18/2009 4:54:40 PM
Would seem to me everyone on here, male/female has an ex regardless if they had sex on the first date or the tenth date. It won't make or break a potential relationship, it is what it is, sex.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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do young guys make bets on older girls Posted: 10/16/2009 4:35:20 PM
Who cares. Have fun, use em, then toss them aside like a broken toy. You have no other use for them. Or, if it bothers you then just block em.

kim247365

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A real woman Posted: 10/11/2009 5:14:49 AM
Real women don't allow men to label how she should appear, how she should think, or how she should behave to satisfy their needs. They are accepting of who they are and they treat all men/women respectfully and don't belittle others for what they have physically or financially that they don't have or are currently striving to obtain. Being manipulative, hateful or judgmental of any human being without knowing the person devalues yourself as a real man or real woman. We don't have to like each other but we sure as hell don't have to be hateful to each other. Love who you want, strive to get who you want just don't belittle those who you don't. Totally unnecessary. Lint Spotter said it best, can be for both women and men.

kim247365

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How does one define what is a recent photo? Posted: 10/7/2009 6:46:30 PM
So whats the problem. If your that adamant about not dating fat women then just tell her that. I don't date fat women, so if you have gained weight since your posted pic then I don't want anything more to do with you "for obvious reasons", whatever your "obvious reasons" are. Seems pretty simple to me.

kim247365

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Do I have grounds to hate my dad's wife? Posted: 10/5/2009 10:20:41 AM
Hmmm, is she allergic to dogs perhaps? Married in Dec 08 and its now Oct 09, almost a year has passed how has your dad been? Has he been happy, depressed, spending wild amounts of money, are you still in contact with him? You don't have to be comfortable around her but you do need to respect the fact that she is dads wife. I would be keeping my eyes and ears open at all times and not let the bitterness get in the way of maintaining the loving relationship you have with your father, cause when hes gone, hes gone. Only you can decide which is more important.

kim247365

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Msg: 63 (view)

How do you react.... Posted: 10/4/2009 4:48:16 PM
^^^^^^that was big mistake to post and also not always true. Plenty of white and latino guys with awesome length and girth, ya know the good stuff.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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You like this girl now what? Posted: 10/4/2009 12:15:44 PM
No brainer. Her best friend is helping you out behind the scenes, huh. Well grow up already and quit acting like your 10 years old and ask her out.

kim247365

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why do women judge a man on what he have or have not? Posted: 10/4/2009 12:00:11 PM
Haha, Bodypro you forgot about the drunks and the naked couples in the CLOSED AFTER DARK areas. Personally, I don't think its the type of work you do, but def. how you feel yourself about the work you do. Even tho we are wise enough to know that the grass isn't always greener on the other side, we still think that way sometimes, and usually end up landing on a pile of dog shit when we jump the fence. AND White Canopy says it best.

kim247365

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Msg: 63 (view)

I'm on the couch ! Posted: 9/30/2009 5:51:40 AM
You have gotten some good advice in here. First, you need to get those kids into their own beds, then you must talk with your wife and ask her what you can do to help her out so she's not so tired so that you both can work on keeping the romance and your marriage alive. Having a date night, helping with dinner, contributing to household chores, suggest she go out with her friends while you stay home with the kids, all may seem like little things to you but can be a major thing to her. Don't expect a night of wild sex the first time you do these things either. If it is that she truly is tired this should help, if she's using it as an excuse, nothing you will do will change her mind. Without a strong husband/wife relationship the kids suffer. And sex is part of keeping that relationship strong. If you both are still in love with each other, then you should both be doing whatever it takes to keep your marriage strong. Everyone in the family benefits.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Ladies, How can I be more like one of you? Posted: 9/26/2009 7:23:05 AM
If he wanted a woman, wouldnt he be with one. He obviously wants to be with you, so just be you. I mean so far that is what attracted him to you to begin with and apparently is what is keeping him with you. You have to ask yourself is being even more "lady like" what you want or what he wants? Like any other sexual relationship, experiment with each other, find those secret pleasures and most of all have fun with each other.

kim247365

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Mixed signals Posted: 9/22/2009 5:08:46 AM
"By the way, I'll decipher "I'd make a shitty boyfriend" for you. It's a play on the old standby of "It's not me, it's you". It's CRAP. He's saying "I don't want to be tied down with the likes of you". That or "I'm happy banging you when it suits me... playing with your emotions and using you for sexual gratification... but try and tie me down, and I'll come up with a lame excuse so I can look for greener pastures while you gobble my Johnson without a committed or loving relationship"." That's a bunch of crap. Maybe thats what you would think or say but your not him so don't use your words to put in someone elses mouth for the sake of getting your digs and hurtful comment in to belittle and hurt the OP. Some people just aren't ready to be in a committed relationship and they have their reasons. If it was known by the both of you from the beginning what it was, as soon as you started to have feelings for him you should have broken it off. Since you want more and he doesnt you need to break it off now because your not going to change his mind and you will only get even more hurt and even angry.

kim247365

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Msg: 69 (view)

Why is it ok to do him if you think you`ll never see him again? Posted: 9/20/2009 7:48:42 PM
I never used the word "power" and "game" together and neither did i say all men think that way, obviously they don't. Hell, even some women use those terms towards other women just because its not something that they could do (not having sex without having the love, and thats fine too). I'm a 46 yo woman who has already done the 18 year marriage, and faithfully I might add, resulting in 4 kids then had the 5 year relationship after that,, also faithfully and was even celibate for 3 years after that one. Now i just want to enjoy a mans company sexually when I want it. So why label me a slut for that.. Neither one of us is getting hurt by each others behavior because its known up front that thats why we are together at that moment, for sexual gratification period.

kim247365

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Why is it ok to do him if you think you`ll never see him again? Posted: 9/20/2009 8:13:49 AM
Obviously it doesn't matter what you men think of the woman who will have sex with you and never see you again because obviously she only thinks any worth that you have is only for that moment. It use to only be a "mans" game, well now women got "game" and the men dont' like it. So go ahead with your antiquated judgements of women being "used", "sluts" and "whores". Everyone is an individual and they have the right to do what they feel is right for them. I see alot of people in these forums who get so caught up in certain topics that they reveal things about their SO's and yet contradict themselves in other forums. Alot of glass houses being shattered, just makes me laugh. Fact remains, when two people get together, if they are ready for love and all the signs and symptoms are there it will happen, regardless of ones past and regardless of what work may or may not be involved in making sure the relationship is successful and healthy because they feel you are someone worth having in their life. And if you don't think relationships take effort then you shouldn't be in one, your not ready.

kim247365

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Good O, Bad Sex? Posted: 9/19/2009 8:40:56 PM
Haha, no Gypsy don't get up and leave thats when you grab him by the hair and mash his face in your, well you get the idea. O, O, Ooooo

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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What Guy Would Say This? Posted: 9/19/2009 8:31:09 PM
Well if he's a player he's new to the game and seriously sucks at it. I agree with Jim, he wanted to see what kind of reaction he could get out of ya.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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A Question About 2 Situations - 1 Conclusion Posted: 9/19/2009 8:16:55 PM
Did i miss the memo that being nice to your fellow humans is now considered a "social disease". Now everyone has a motive when they say strike up a conversation or hold open a door or smile, jeeze this is juvenile thinking.

kim247365

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Impatient in meeting Posted: 9/19/2009 5:30:17 PM
Or, maybe the guy met someone while on vacation and he's dating her so that's why he didn't contact you again, and it never was about meet me now or never just your assumption, jeeze. Why not meet as soon as possible, people can mislead and manipulate just as easily on the computer and telephone for as long as they feel its necessary, if that's their agenda. Just because you have been sending emails back and forth for 2 weeks or a month and talking on the phone dosn't count for sqwat.

kim247365

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How many women would admit to this???? Posted: 9/16/2009 5:16:30 PM
This is hilarious. Yup just like there's plenty of men who will bang us "sluts" while seeking a LTR and waiting for months or more for that woman to "put out". Oh I'm sure there are alot who will protest very loudly "not me", oh paleeze. Everyone needs to grow up. If a woman is comfortable with her sexuality and practices safe sex then who is anyone to pass judgement. I could almost guarantee if we peeked into everyones closests we'd find more than just fancy clothes and a shitload of shoes and that goes for men and women.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Girls, I need your advice urgently. Please help! Posted: 9/15/2009 3:58:11 AM
Am I reading this right, you have never spoken to this woman but you say shes the most amazing woman ever and you love her? Thats not love thats lust. But whatever, why not just approach her and ask her out, doesnt seem that difficult and you have nothing to lose and alot to gain whether she says yes or no.

kim247365

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Ive got big balls! Posted: 9/15/2009 3:36:52 AM
Actually tea bagging is when the guy is straddling your face enough to "tea bag" his balls in your mouth like a tea bag in a cup.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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unique divorce problem Posted: 9/14/2009 1:32:28 PM
Whoa, do you come with your own cage and leashes. Seriously, this is a very bad idea and sorry to say but you have been and are the rebound guy. You would at my best guess last another year at the most and that will be filled with so much drama that no 23 yo should have to be bothered with. I say run don't walk and live your life.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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NSA - What Are The Chances?? Posted: 9/13/2009 8:56:17 AM
You need to end it now. If you didn't tell him at first meet that your not looking for anything exclusive you need to tell him now and simply stop seeing him. I know for myself if I feel for one moment that I'm startling to think about someone more than I should be, I have to stop seeing that person as a NSA cause it only means feelings are coming into play. I'm not a hearless, unfeeling b.itch. I only play one. And, yes it is possible for people just looking for NSA to have their moments of thinking "what am I doing, I want more than this". Just as its possible for people that are looking for LTR to say "fu.ck it, it's been a month of no sex and I want some now". Let's face it, whatever your looking for it's always going to be an emotional rollercoaster of back and forth feelings. Just don't blame anyone but yourself for the choices you make. Be prepared to get hurt and to end up unintentionally hurting someone else if your not honest about it with yourself and them.

kim247365

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Msg: 31 (view)

What do you think would be the best way to get to a smoke free society? Posted: 9/11/2009 4:40:48 PM
The Federal and mostly State governments would lose literally billions and billions of dollars if there was no cigarette taxes to collect. Where do you think they are going to get that kind of money? Do you really think your government wants a smoke free society? Publicly, yes; privately, no. Take for example the $250 billion law suits against tobacco companies that are being collected over what, the next 25 years and longer as long as they stay in business but will end uncollected if they should go out of business. Would politicians shut down an industry that supplies so much money? Honestly, what do you think? Google your state and see how much they collect on cigarette taxes. It will send your idea of a smokeless society "up in smoke".

kim247365

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Do you reflect on what you attract? Posted: 9/10/2009 7:01:02 AM
Well can't explain for the single moms, but as far as what you term BBW, probahbly due to the fact that you have made it quite clear in your extremely rude and nasty forum posts your hatred for fat women, they more than likely wanted to see what the man with fat face has to say in his profile that makes him think hes so special Nothing to do with being attracted. Ugly on the inside has made you ugly on the outside You reap what you sow!

kim247365

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now I have herpes Posted: 9/6/2009 12:25:09 PM
If someone told me this information and I had seriously been considering a LTR with them prior to this, I would need more time to think about my next move. Give him time and leave it alone and let him get back to you. I'm thinking either way he will let you know his decision. Afterall, it is a major thing to think about and not to be taken lightly.

kim247365

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Something to ponder. Off Topic... Posted: 9/3/2009 12:35:45 PM
Ya can't say don't put love, kids or faith into it because for alot of people that is what keeps them going and strong. You should read the book The Five People You'll Meet In Heaven, I believe it will give you some insight to your question, and no it's not a religious book.

kim247365

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sex is a good thing people Posted: 9/3/2009 6:59:59 AM
I have never felt shame, regret, fear or felt like a bad person for having sex. Sex is awesome and fun and a great stress reliever. Just because someone enjoys NSA sex doesn't automatically mean they have an STD either, I sure as hell don't. Seen in these forums way too many times people in "committed", "long term" relationships talking about what STD they got from their partner, so that can happen in any type of relationship that isn't celibate. So why do people do it? I think it's because some believe love and sex go together, they need to feel that "connection". Well thats all well and good if thats what you need, but for those of us who don't need to feel that "connection" and just want some awesome, mind blowing sex, ain't nothing wrong with doing the "tango" and getting it done and see ya again maybe. Don't really care one way or the other. I used you and you used me and we both knew this from the get go so why should either one of us feel bad about it.

kim247365

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Is it better for a woman to swallow? Posted: 8/24/2009 10:06:29 PM
It can be thick like toothpaste as it oozes from the tip I let it collect on my tongue as gravity makes it drip I move it so it coats my mouth and taste it like fine wine I lap it up with ecstasy because it is all mine I suck and nibble the skin around it because it leaves a taste A saltiness that calls to me, can’t let it go to waste

kim247365

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Musicians: what's hot and what's not Posted: 8/6/2009 3:28:28 PM
One word "Slash"

kim247365

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Sex with no strings attached, is this possible? Posted: 8/4/2009 4:03:26 AM
Of course it is, its a lifestyle. Where your going wrong is having it with your boss, BIG, BIG MISTAKE. Hopefully for you she is a believer in love and sex as two seperate entities.

kim247365

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Are all women nuts?/Where are all the good ones at? Posted: 8/4/2009 3:24:39 AM
Working in the security field myself, thats quite an accomplishment at your age BUT being a non-connected third party can only say theres his side, her side and then the truth. The water, as we all know, has nothing to do with it, it can only make women pregnant not cheaters. You might want to think about the type of women your surrounding yourself with. Just a thought.

kim247365

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Cheating!!!! Posted: 8/4/2009 12:58:39 AM
I'm just curious OP you stated earlier that the dude waited till everyone was gone and she was piss assed drunk, and who told you this information? If it was your GF that would seem odd to me that she could remember that information but not that she was suppose to be in an exclusvie loving relationship with the man of her dreams. Sounds kinda shaky to me. I think those tears she shed were cause she f*cked up and was feeling guilty. Then again, alot of people who cheat feel guilty afterwards, does'nt stop them from doing it again and again, especially when they know they will be forgiven for it . It's your life and you're the one who has to live it so you need to be the one to decide if the relationship is worth trying to salvage. I speak from experience, it's going to be hard. Theres no such thing as forgive and forget. Cheating is not something you just forget happened, therefore there is no way you can truly forgive it. Getting drunk is just an excuse people use in the hopes they will be forgiven for inexcusable behavior. Good luck to you in whatever you decide. Either way it's gonna be painful.

kim247365

Joined: 1/8/2009

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Did you keep your wedding photos? Posted: 7/30/2009 7:44:32 AM
I didn't keep mine, he is not the reason i am the woman i am today, i am. If i had them i would just be shaking my head "what a waste of 18 years of my life", but thats me. However, perhaps you and your daughter could sit together and go thru them and let her pick the ones she would like to keep and just put them in an album for her, especially if she has a good, loving relationship with her father. My kids don't, but if he had been a loving father and stayed in their lives i'm sure i would have done this.

kim247365

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Sickness and in Health Posted: 7/26/2009 11:32:45 PM
I agree 100 percent that laughing at the sick and disabled is utterly deplorable. Hmmm wonder if my life would be better if i laugh at my son when he has his next seizure or gets on that short bus with all the other disabled students to go to school and attempt to learn something despite his brain damage, yea thats real freaking amusing. Laughing with them as they try to overcome their fear is one thing to laugh at them is just dispicable. As far as the OP i'm willing to bet that he had already been through it and just didnt have the strength to watch someone he loved go through it again, whatever it may have been. So I wouldnt take offense to it.

kim247365

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No Second Date Posted: 7/20/2009 11:47:58 AM
Wow, people on an online dating site only using people for sex, the shame, pftttt

kim247365

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Why do we women do this to ourselves? Posted: 7/8/2009 1:48:29 AM
ok, i know i will catch some flack for this but my advice date like a man and you wont get played like a b*tch, there i said it

kim247365

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Does anyone have anything good to say about their EX? Posted: 7/4/2009 10:02:23 PM
As for my exhusband of 18 years, only good thing i could say is he still has a job so the state can garnish his wages for child support. As for my exboyfriend of 4 years, was his decision to part ways due to medical reasons on his part. I can't say enough good things about that man, and i still do after parting 3 years ago.

kim247365

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Should I ask adult child's mother to help her daughter? Posted: 7/3/2009 7:17:25 AM
I'm actually surprised shes not in jail. I have known young men to work three jobs to be able to pay child support and be able to somehow pay their own bills. I have also known men who were behind in payments sit in jail asking how the hell can they pay the back child support sitting in jail, and they were told to figure it out for themselves. When my kids lived with their father for a year, I continued to get child support checks (his wages were garnished). With every check that i got, i copied, cashed, and handed it back to my ex along with a signed receipt from him. Everyone said i was crazy for doing that and all i could think was how the hell do you figure that, he has the kids, the money is for the kids not for me. I really could not comprehend the reasoning for their statements. It boggled my mind to say the least. Well he figured out for himself it was easier to pay the child support than to actually be a father so they were back with me after a year. (to which i knew was gonna happen anyways) You really need to let the courts know what is owed. As long as she knows your going to allow her to not pay, there will be no effort on her part to do so. And don't forget those tax returns, I imagine everything she gets back for years to come will go towards back child support. Ok you may have the nice guy syndrome but think about this would she have been this generous with you if the shoe was on the other foot. This is why the courts have to be involved so the emotions are kept out of it and what is right is done. I dont think you gave birth to that child, she didnt ask to be born, and it is every parents responsibility to provide for that child regardless. I find it amusing you hear how the economy is bad, people losing jobs, houses, cars, but what amazes me is when they are able to come up with money for when they really want something (and 9/10 its for entertainment purposes). No damn difference for a mother that doesnt pay or a father that doesnt pay. It's just sad any way you look at it. Ok, thats my vent, (exhaling) feel better now. Good luck to you.

kim247365

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Dominant vs Submissive, for real Posted: 7/2/2009 7:57:34 AM
True, there are different levels and types to a Dom/Sub relationship. Also, there are alot of people who dont realize they have Dom or Sub tendancies until they happen to get involved with someone that has encouraged trying it and then they find that they like it very much because it magnifies their sexuality 10-fold. But I think we can all agree that the major issue in this type of behavior/relationship is the trust factor. Again, not an expert on the subject just based on personal experiences.

kim247365

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Dominant vs Submissive, for real Posted: 7/2/2009 6:43:25 AM
I think you may be confusing the Dom/sub relationship with the Dom/slave relationship, completely different. As Emruld had stated subs have a choice to participate in what is demanded. Slaves on the other hand do not. In fact, when your a slave to someone your whole life (inside and outside the bedroom) is controlled by the Dom. You make no decisions on any issues and must get permission from the Dom to do anything. And , as a slave, if you work, be prepared to hand that paycheck over to your Dom, they will spend it as they see fit (for themselves and/or the slave). Punishment is swift and severe for disobedience. This is also the type of lifestyle where you will find slaves in cages. What draws people to feel the need to be a slave, that i do not know. But what I do know is that it definitely exists. I have turned away many men and women who have come to me saying their Dom of 5, 10, 15 years had passed away or they felt was getting ready to release them and wanted to know if i would take them. There is a website www.adultspace.com that has an advertising section and there are men and women in there looking for or desiring to be slaves. Note: I am not an expert on this subject, just my observation.

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