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justingg

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Msg: 48 (view)

Why do guys LIKE to torture girls? Posted: 8/28/2006 12:41:37 PM
I don't like to torture girls, there's no sport in that. Puppies on the other hand...

justingg

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Do you look at the profile if you get a brief message? Posted: 8/28/2006 12:35:03 PM
I've found that I get a better response rate with shorter "shout outs." If you're saying more than "Hey, I think you're attractive, and I think we'd hit it off." They won't bother reading it, and won't respond.

Justingg

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Why do all my BF's cheat??? Posted: 6/18/2006 11:18:52 AM
Maybe you're attracted to the cheating type.

Justingg

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Just Ask .... becoming far too common Posted: 6/18/2006 11:09:00 AM
Ever notice how it's mostly men that do the "Just Ask" thing? Nyuh-uh. I did a quick survey last week, and of the women who come up on My Matches, about half had something similar to "Just Ask." I'm sure there are more men that have it, but there are more men in general. I think proportionately there are more women in here trying to ride on their looks.

Justingg

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Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ? Posted: 6/18/2006 9:30:34 AM
By the way doesn't the phrase "good men" refer to tall, dark, handsome, rich & not gay these days?

Justingg

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What ever happened to Love? Posted: 6/18/2006 9:26:38 AM
no need for a Prince; just someone who shares the same values, morals, and some of the same goals, whose willing to be an equal partner, can hold an intelligent conversation, and feels the same for me as I do for him. (imagine the following with a very snooty British accent for full comedic effect) Ladies and gentlemen, I want you all to observe a rarity in the dating world. A woman who isn't looking for a "prince." While it does not escape my suspicion that this might be a forgery, this long begotten female has been held in secret in the deepest depths of singledom for men to search for. This particular item is priceless due to its rarity, if true to form.

Justingg

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Too nice? Posted: 6/18/2006 9:17:59 AM
I disagree. I think you need to let them know that they don't have you. If the woman has already won you over, what's the point?

Justingg

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Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ? Posted: 6/18/2006 9:13:17 AM
I may not be a good man but I'm an awesome dude. Dude. Dude!

Justingg

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Do You Men Read Our Whole Profiles? Posted: 6/18/2006 8:04:14 AM
Do You Men Read Our Whole Profiles? No. And I know women don't read ours. Nobody bothered to comment when I had in my profile that I was looking to cheat on my wife, or that I was an ex-con, that my "services" required a down payment, or when I claimed that I was once a woman. I still got replies, but nobody ever commented on these things.

Justingg

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With the amount of porn out there you think it would be eazy to find friends with benifets.But no!wh Posted: 6/17/2006 1:29:59 PM
I doubt that the increase in porn has anything to do with women running out in droves to buy some. Yeah, something in the OP's logic seemed faulty.

Justingg

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Unattractive? Posted: 6/17/2006 12:38:32 PM
Its hard to say with the sunglasses on, but with what I can get from that picture I doubt you could be unattractive enough for it to be a real problem. Besides, there are a lot of women who just aren't receptive to meeting people in non-sanctioned places (bars, clubs, ...country clubs, uhhh...bars, uhhhh... other sanctioned places). And yes, I'm a straight man commenting that another man isn't ugly. its happened before. Get over it. I'm secure in my masculinity.

Justingg

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Do Men REALLY Like to Cuddle? Posted: 6/17/2006 12:27:51 PM
Pfffffhhh. No. The sooner I can get out of there the better.

Justingg

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Men posing with cars Posted: 6/17/2006 12:17:36 PM
Cars are like girl-nip. Drive around in a fast, sleek car, and you can't shake the women off. So they want the women to know that they have a nice car.

Justingg

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What ever happened to Love? Posted: 6/17/2006 12:11:32 PM
Love? What's that?

Justingg

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What is the best piece of advice ever given to you by someone Posted: 6/17/2006 12:04:28 PM
"Real men sleep with lots, and lots of women."

Justingg

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Is it just south florida? Posted: 6/17/2006 11:33:17 AM
Just assume that women under 35 are going to be shallow wherever you go. Sorry.

justingg

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Whats your take on Posted: 6/17/2006 9:09:18 AM
NoNameHero, I'm sure you guessed by now, most women don't read your message, they look at your picture, and filter from there.

justingg

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What is shallow, really? Posted: 6/17/2006 9:06:30 AM
Actually, I have a friend (total geek) who is entertained by science books, and lecture tours. He comes out to the bars and concerts with us, but will also get tickets to see some scientist talk about stuff I can't begin to describe. Its his job, and what he does for fun. Of course, he's very celibate, so the original point still stands. Intelligence and education are valued if it results in more money. Some people are like that.

justingg

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Saw his emails..I am not the only love he has Posted: 6/17/2006 8:56:28 AM
Woohoo! Let's hear it for adult relationships!

justingg

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Are we the McDonald's generation? Posted: 6/17/2006 8:50:50 AM
I think there are people who would disagree with the internet dating thing being "too easy." I do agree that we are the instant gratification generation, though. Its just as true in real life as on here.

justingg

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Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 6/17/2006 8:45:46 AM
I don't date women over 120 lbs, so all's fair.

justingg

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Dating a guy with no car... Posted: 6/17/2006 8:19:01 AM
Women don't date guys, they date status symbols. Its a competition.

justingg

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WHERE have all the cowboys gone? Posted: 6/11/2006 10:07:24 AM
1) I believe that most if not all of us out here are no longer interested in playing the game that you speak of any further in our lives especially once you hit the 30's and the 40's. Well I don't know about 40's, but it sure seems like people are still playing in their 30's. People are growing up a little slower these days. We simply should not and do not want to play the whole competition game as to who will win the girl/boy. Aren't those games played in high school or in your early 20's? Should it not be now at this point in our lives that if we like each other that we simply go with it and enjoy each other's company, not play a game with the other's heart but just simply enjoy who we are with?? Maybe it should. I'm just saying that regardless of what should happen, this is what does happen. 2) I do not know your friend Mikey whom you speak of but I don't believe that he is not finding dates because he is honest and genuine, it could simply be that he does not offer enough of a stimulant to women of a more confident nature. Actually, I would if anything say the opposite. Mikey (not his real name by the way) is the smart, funny, cultured one in our group. He's a bit of a geek, but he's the guy who actually makes "grown up" conversation. He's the only one of us who went to university instead of community college, the only one with a real job, making real money. Now granted, he's not really the outdoorsy type, but he can't even attract the indoorsy type of girl. He's an interesting guy, he's just not interesting to women. Now I admit, maybe part of his problem is that we can't actually find these women with a more "confident nature," for him to hook up with. I think the other part of his problem is that he's not the kind of guy who will boost a woman's confidence, because he admits he's not the Alpha Male. I convince a woman she's getting the Alpha Male, and they think they're something special, that boosts their confidence, and boom...they become interested in me. ...sooner or later I am going to be turned off by your game playing tactics if you have not shown your true self. It may begin as a fun game but sooner or later we must put down our game pieces and show what is underneath the masterful mind... Maybe so, but with so many guys like me playing the game, how do you know which guy is which? How do you know that you're getting someone who's just playing, or someone who's being genuine? If my honest and genuine traits are a red flag to some that they really aren't the ones for me as I feel that these are two of my best traits and in today's society I believe that is rare to find them. If I may be honest, a woman who is honest and genuine is like a green flag to me. It basically tells me how to act, and who to be. It sounds a bit slimy, but if I'm interested in someone, I'm not going to take my chances on just being me, I'm going to be the person they're looking for. If you tell me that right up front, it makes becoming that guy even easier. The women who don't do that are the ones who are playing games, and I know how to act for that as well. Honestly, what I'm trying to say is that the kind of guys you're looking for are out there, but they're guys like Mikey. And one of two things will happen to him, either he'll keep on being Mikey, and he'll probably find someone great down the road, or he'll give in and start playing like the rest of us.

justingg

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Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ? Posted: 6/11/2006 9:40:36 AM
I do believe that there are good men left but very few and most are taken.If there not,usually there pretty paticular in what they're looking for in a woman especially when it comes to looks.Also they just came out of a bad relationship and/or not looking for anything serious at the moment and ladies we all know what that means......right!!!!and that is my opinion. How are we defining "good?" This "good" guy doesn't seem to me like he would really qualify, unless your definition of "good" involves a very particular kind of looks.

justingg

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Why do Men ask to see your pics then NEVER talk to you again....? Posted: 6/11/2006 9:33:33 AM
Because you didn't put your pic up to begin with?

justingg

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WHERE have all the cowboys gone? Posted: 6/11/2006 8:59:58 AM
Again "justin" it is sad that you view finding love as a game and that you have to basically have the upper hand or be the strongest player in the "game." It is a game. Some people are good at it, some people are bad at it. Some people win, some people lose. You play be the rules, and convention, and etiquette. Like taking your hat off for a lady is a rule (or at least etiquette) in your game, that isn't in mine. You break up with someone in person, or they bad mouth you. Sleep around, and you get a mean label. There are rules, and you play by them, or get penalties. I'm sorry but I do not view love or finding it as a game but as an adventure where two people can open themselves to the idea of trusting each other and ultimately being themselves, not putting on some kind of face because they are in fear of getting hurt or being played? I don't put on a face, I'm always me. I just choose what type of "me" I'm going to show. Men need to be mysterious. If I were honest and open women would have nothing to do with me. Like I said about Mikey above, he's honest, and open about who he is, and where does it get him? Women are looking for the Alpha Male (as has been said numerous times on this board), of course there can only be one Alpha Male (leader of the pack) at a time, so we have to compete to gain your interest. Mikey either chooses not to play, or can't play and so he's willing to settle for someone else who can't play. I choose not to settle, because I know I'm good at the game. So you can honestly tell me that with this way of thinking that you have that you are successful with women and in relationships? I'll say that I do okay. I am sure if I were to meet you or someone like you I would definitely be able to read that you hold off on giving yourself and to me that would be a red flag that I would not be receiving the real YOU in a relationship. Maybe, maybe not. But people know that Mikey's not playing the game, he seems to put the real him out there, and that sends up a huge red flag to women that they can do better than him, because he can't play. And I bet in the end, you get that red flag too.

justingg

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WHERE have all the cowboys gone? Posted: 6/11/2006 8:17:33 AM
I wouldn't quite put it that way. I've just learned how to play the game, and I've been pretty darn successful at it so far. You may see it as betrayal and bitterness, but I see is as just learning the rules to the game. No sense being bitter about it, I know how to play now. If you've ever seen the movie Swingers, I have a friend who is our Mikey in that movie. He is exactly the guy you've described. He is honest to a fault, he's the smartest in our group, he's really a good guy, he treats every women with genuine respect (even if he doesn't like them). But he doesn't play the game. The guy's about 30, and he's probably still a virgin. I know he hasn't been laid in at least 3 years. There are guys like that out there. But for me, there's no reason to be that way, because ultimately the odds are against me. Its like evolution. Those who don't adapt to the rules get left behind. Survival of the fittest.

justingg

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If you were once overweight yourself....will you now date a person who is trying to lose weight?? Posted: 6/11/2006 8:06:23 AM
This is kind of funny. When I was in high school I weighed about 260lbs, and I was made fun of a lot for it. There was this one girl, the typical blond cheerleader, who would make fun of me about it a lot. I'm now down to about 175, and looking damn good. The other day I ran into the same girl, and she had packed on a good 40 or so since high school. I enjoyed it very much. For those wondering, I resisted the urge to make fun of her. In answer to the question. No. I didn't get respect for anyone back then, nor when I was losing the weight. If I hadn't lost that weight, I wouldn't get respect now. I've earned the right to be shallow, I'm going to enjoy it.

justingg

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WHERE have all the cowboys gone? Posted: 6/11/2006 7:55:54 AM
Taking off your hat whether it be cowboy or a baseball cap is a sign of respect wouldn't you agree? I would think that is just common sense. Well, I'd say not exposing you to my hat-head is also a sign of respect. I don't think I've ever taken off my hat to a lady, and I do just fine. No, we are not all looking for the macho guy..........that is a huge misconception in my books. I want a man to be a man and be strong, but also be able to show his compassionate, caring, and kind side as well. Then I think the majority of women out there have ruined it for you. I've learned not to do that under any circumstances, and again, I do just fine. I have been with men who felt they needed to play the macho act and kept themselves reserved probably due to fear of looking weak in front of other men Actually, its often for the women too. Remember men have a social role they're supposed to play, and they play it for everyone's benefit. Those who don't play are labelled as "sissies", or "geeks", or "weak." In the same manner women have a role to play to, and they know if they want to get noticed they play that role. Its just the way things work.

justingg

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First Contact: Generic emails vs. Creative Writing Posted: 6/11/2006 7:40:53 AM
From My Matches: There were 36 profiles: -33 had pictures. -15 had three or less interests. -10 were indecisive, boring or simply said nothing in the "first date" area. -22 had vague profiles Of these 22: -2 indicated they were only here for the forums. -2 didn't have pictures at all. -1 had a picture of a dog (actual dog, not that she was ugly). -15 had what I would call generic profiles that didn't say anything. -3 had something like "If you want to know more, email me." -2 had something like "Just looking to see who's here." So of 36 women on here right now, only two would be worth contacting. And I'm still not gonna.

justingg

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WHERE have all the cowboys gone? Posted: 6/11/2006 7:24:24 AM
Now typically if one is to think of a "true cowboy" say from the South especially, we would think this would be a man that represents the qualities of a gentleman, There are guys who are gentlemanly... respect, romantic, Lots of guys act like they respect women, and are romantic...And most women fall for it. take his hat off when he approaches a lady, Does that include ball caps? speaks from his heart (like in the songs you know) That would be the kiss of death. No chance, no way, if a guy were to "speak from the heart" most women would likely dump him, or in the least put him on probation until he started acting macho again. Seriously. courteous, and the like. Corteous is bad too. Am I just living in another time where men/women courted and the man actually tried to win the woman's heart instead of just getting her to bed? In my experience the guys women want are the ones who don't need to win the women over. The ones who actually try to win a woman over, are the ones the women don't want. I mean, if the women wanted him, he wouldn't have to win them over, now would he? Its the instant gratification, sweep-me-off-my-feet, "gotta feel butterflies" era.

justingg

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Misrepresentation Posted: 6/8/2006 12:54:48 PM
Sometimes good looking people are more f d up than fugly ones... I pass on both pretty good looks and f'd up life and f'd up looking... both suck. ???? Interesting how you assume "fugly" people are "f'd up." Freudian slip perhaps?

justingg

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Misrepresentation Posted: 6/8/2006 12:52:16 PM
Here's what I've noticed: If someone who says they're fit turns out to be fat...its a lie. if someone who says they're fat turns out to be fit...its a pleasant surprise. Let's say you go out with a guy said he was poor, or was just getting by financially. but you later found out that he was actually quite wealthy, but wanted to make sure that you weren't hoping to get a piece of his fortune...how would that play out? Is it still a lie, is it forgiveable?

justingg

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WHY WOMEN DON'T RESPOND: A REBUTTAL Posted: 6/8/2006 12:47:40 PM
Why on earth would you respond? I think this rule only ever applies if the person who sent the email put some thought and effort into the email. Even moreso if they put a lot of effort into their profile. In such a case, I sorta think you should put some effort into a response. If their email says nothing, and their profile says nothing, they really shouldn't expect a response.

justingg

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What if he is a music nerd and she isnt? Posted: 6/8/2006 12:43:57 PM
I'm a big music fan, and have a huge collection. But, its not everything man. If she's not into it, I'll learn her. Its just not a big deal. Of course, if she doesn't have big hooters, that's a different story.

justingg

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The 50 to 1 rule Posted: 6/8/2006 12:41:59 PM
How exactly would you go about approaching so called woman? Like...should I say Hi, my name is blah blah, and talk about something? or should I go straight to the point and say, I was wondering if you would like to go out sometime? Ive proly got a 3 to 1 chance, considering my looks but I suppose its worth a shot. I'm willing to fork out 5-bucks if you can get a video tape of yourself going up to said woman and saying..."I was told I have a 1 in 50 chance of scoring with you, whadaya say?"

justingg

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The 50 to 1 rule Posted: 6/8/2006 12:39:38 PM
another great place to meet them, i am surprized no one has mentioned this... the little league baseball field, tons of single moms. takes a little effort, and you have pay attention but hey i would say some 50% of the girls are single... I really like this idea, except that I'm childless. Someone needs to open Rent-A-Kid for times like these. "Yeah this is...um...Ryan...yeah, that's it. My son Ryan...And you are?"

justingg

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Alone too long?? Posted: 6/8/2006 12:36:09 PM
whew...that was fun... Next!?

justingg

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Slim, Slender, Average, Athletic, Fit....now what??? Posted: 6/7/2006 12:18:20 PM
"Averege means up to 50 overweight..." I hate to tell you this...the average man is technically about 35 lbs overweight (210 lbs at 5'10, compared to 175 on the BMI), it might be higher if you're thinking about older age groups. I'm pretty sure average women are about 30lbs overweight by the BMI. So average seems realistic.

justingg

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The 50 to 1 rule Posted: 6/7/2006 12:02:24 PM
Next time I see the Jahovah's Witnesses Downtown, I'll ask how well this 50 to 1 ratio works for them...

justingg

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Alone too long?? Posted: 6/7/2006 11:59:17 AM
"I wasn't referring to every single poster ~ in fact, I clearly stated that I had only read the first and last pages." The old "I was misinformed" excuse? Nice cover. I have read the majority of the posts in this thread, and you were probably more than a little off base. "I'm well aware that everyone has a bad day" Uh-huh.... "my point is that the whiny "poor me" attitude isn't going to win them any brownie points." But the "I didn't mean to be mean, it just happens" attitude has them running with roses right? "No one can like you until you like yourself, and a little introspection never hurt anyone." And the best way to do that is to tell them that they're all a bunch of mama's boys. That's just a self-esteem milkshake right there!

Justingg

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Would you change your looks for someone to become more attractive to them? Posted: 6/6/2006 4:39:45 PM
No one should change their look. If the other person is shallow,THEY ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO CHANGE THEIR ATTITUDES AND TASTES IN THE OOPOSITE SEX.!!!! Is that any different from someone who is interested in you only if you don't change your look?

Justingg

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why does my gender matter more than my character? Posted: 6/6/2006 8:39:04 AM
Telling you...0%. Some people might get lucky every once in a while, and judge somebody based on all of their other traits, which happen to fall in line with someone who has good character, but there is not a single person in this entire world, living today, or probably within the past 1000 years who has ever been an actual good judge of character. We judge people on about 1000 things before we even hear them speak. About a million before we have any insight into their character. And you think there is even one (1) person out there who can filter out these millions of other points, and actually see what kind of character they have? And you think there are people who do this with every person they meet? I doubt it.

Justingg

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The 50 to 1 rule Posted: 6/6/2006 8:32:09 AM
Just go out there and try at least fifty and see what happens. I can't wait for the guys who come back here after 51 and glue your ass to a wall. C'mon you know its gonna happen. Frankly, I know a guy who would be jumping off a roof after about 5.

Justingg

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why does my gender matter more than my character? Posted: 6/6/2006 8:17:13 AM
ok so if a woman stuffs a guys life ,,,hes got the right to go and blame all women for his downfalls ,,,hmmmm l dont think so That's not what I said. I said its unrealistic to expect that the world works any other way. What percentage of the population would you say are actually good judges of character? What percentage of the population would you say make assumptions about people based on unfounded stereotypes, gerenalizations, and baseless assumptions? I'll give you a hint: the answer to one is 0% and the answer to the other is 100%. I'm not saying its good, I'm saying its the way the world works. Stop whining about it.

Justingg

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why does my gender matter more than my character? Posted: 6/6/2006 8:03:36 AM
why does my gender matter more than my character? Because people can see and judge what gender you are. They can't see and judge character. If you think things work otherwise, or will ever work otherwise, I recommend stepping back into the real world.

justingg

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I tried to be polite...now what? Posted: 6/5/2006 11:35:02 AM
Yeah, you replied. That was nicer than most guys get. If he doesn't get the hint, its up to him to figure it out, not you to hit him over the head with it. You did your part. Block him, ignore him, whatever.

justingg

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I just don't get guys all together Posted: 6/5/2006 11:13:49 AM
You seem almost shocked that a guy you thought was nice turned out to be a jerk. Is this really something new? Guys will be the guy they think you want, and when they've got you hooked they revert to who they really are. Oops, I shouldn't be giving away trade secrets.

justingg

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Alone too long?? Posted: 6/5/2006 11:06:57 AM
After looking at the past few pages...wow this sure attracted the projections of some of the most arrogant kings and queens of false bravado didn't it? Some people actually find empathy, patience, and sensitivity attractive. Luckily, I'm not one of them...

justingg

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Would you change your looks for someone to become more attractive to them? Posted: 6/4/2006 5:05:29 PM
I can't believe you all would just lie like that. I'm so disapointed. I know that 80% of the men in here would shave off a beard for a woman they were interested in if she said she liked clean shaved men. I bet half would shave their chest if it would help. I bet 80% of the women would wear their hair differently, or decide not to wear their glasses if a man they was interested in said he liked women with (insert hairdo), or without glasses. I bet there are balding men in here who shave their head to attract women, or grow goatees, or facial hair of some sort, or a leather jacket to appear more attractive to women. I bet there are women who wear high heels because they think men will like it, or push up bras, make up, low cut tops, or absurdly tight jeans to get attraction. And I bet at least half the people in here go to the gym regularly, or have been on a diet in hope of the sexy body for the opposite sex (I know this to be true from general statistics about people). What's the difference between doing it for a particular person of the opposite sex, or doing it for the opposite sex in general? And yet nearly everyone in here says they would not. I can't believe you all would lie like that. I want to go on the record as saying I'm being honest.

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