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 Author Thread: Would you go out with someone in the 45 plus group that has never been married?
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 328 (view)
 
Would you go out with someone in the 45 plus group that has never been married?
Posted: 11/4/2008 7:01:52 PM

No, because if they reach that age and have never been married are either commitmet phobic or mentally imbalanced.


Wow, I guess everyone is entitled to your opinion....

I'll be 48 next week, and I never married. Was in a 10 year relationship in my 20's, a 4 year relationship in my 30's, a couple of two year relationships in my 40's. Been engaged once, but after living with the guy for a year realized that I wouldn't survive a marriage to him. (He was on best behavior before I moved in, but became abusive after that...) Am I commitment phobic? If I was, those relationships wouldn't have lasted as long as they did. Am I mentally unbalanced? I can think clearly enough not to marry until I know the relationship has the potential to last. And in this age where marriage is seen as less of a necessity, sometimes you can find yourself mutually in love with someone who just doesn't see the point of going through the ceremony if you can still be together without it.

So yeah, I'd go out with them. It's the only way you'll find out what that person's about. If you've already got your mind made up about people before meeting them, why bother dating at all?
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 25 (view)
 
drama burnout
Posted: 6/14/2008 3:06:15 PM
[I think there are things that have happened in everyone's life that can be expected to influence relationships, but then there's "non-stop drama" that some people seem to relish.....and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to live their life in a 24/7/365 "drama shop", because so much drama is manufactured by people needing attention......and I suppose, to them, negative attention is better than no attention at all.]

Amen to that! Yeah, we all go through stuff, and hopefully we learn from it. But really, hearing "Sniffle, sniffle, sob, they took my kids away because when I went to prison for my DUI... hey, you know where I can score some vicodin?" Or, "I loaned my car to the crack dealer down the block and now I can't get it back..." Please! Come to me when you have a problem you haven't brought on yourself. I've ditched both male and female acquaintances for this kind of nonsense.
 Fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 48 (view)
 
Why is it so difficult for men & women to be friends instead of jumping to become lovers
Posted: 10/27/2007 4:20:10 PM
I think that a large part of it has to do with meeting on the internet.

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, the way in which people met was through activities which brought them to the same location on a regular basis, such as work, school or religious worship. While their mutual participation in these activities did assure that the people in question would have something in common, there was an implicit need for caution in proceeding with a relationship; if the relationship failed, things could become very uncomfortable, and one or the other person might have to find a new job, school or place of worship. Implicit in meeting over the internet is the understanding that if things don't work out, you never have to see the other person again; if it weren't for the internet, you would never have met in the first place, so the need for caution is eliminated...

While the internet is a great way to meet people I'd never ordinarily have had the chance to meet, I have to keep this principal in mind when I do meet someone online...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 32 (view)
 
I don't know what to do anymore......
Posted: 10/14/2007 1:32:46 PM
Whoa!

If you're going to be spending the rest of your life with someone, then each person needs to be thinking not only of their own happiness, but of the other person's as well.

In regard to animals...

If one of the two people really loves their animals, and the other is saying that they need to make a choice between the relationship and the animals, the choice is pretty clear. A partner worth keeping would never ask his/her mate to give up something important to them, or do something that would make them unhappy. A relationship is about two people, not just one.

If someone asks you to give up your animals, it's not about the animals, and it won't stop there. Run...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 182 (view)
 
Should I tell his wife?
Posted: 10/4/2007 7:23:16 AM
OP-

If I were in a restaurant and I was choking, I would want someone to give me the Heimlich Manuever. If I was out on the street and being mugged, I would want someone to call the police. In the same way, if my husband was unfaithful to me, I would want to know. It's no longer just a question of hurt feelings; std's can be fatal. The more time this scumbag spends cheating on her, the more in danger she is, so just as with other lifesaving techniques, the sooner action is taken, the better.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Porn Addiction
Posted: 9/29/2007 5:11:49 PM
Loved some of what you had to say about addiction, and would add to it... After 15 years in Al-Anon, I learned that drugs and alcohol stimulate a pleasure center of the brain that nothing and noone else can access; an addict will never find the love of their partner as satisfying as the high they get from their substance of choice. Never mind the fact that they are damaging real relationships and real lives for the illusions offered by their addictions. I suspect that porn is no different. The images presented are stimulating a visual center of the brain, but the images aren't real. I'm sorry to disagree with you on the part about patience, perserverance and love, but long experience has taught me that they're wasted on an addict, and the time you lose isn't time you will ever get back again. If your partner is more committed to their addiction than they are to you, you'd best leave them to it and get on with your life.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Would like to know if anyone is dating.
Posted: 9/29/2007 1:37:59 PM
Well, I'm going through the Sahara of dry spells, but my life is busy enough for it not to be troublesome. At this point, I'm not so much looking for love as hopeful that it will find me eventually....
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 57 (view)
 
the first date and he wont respect your pet
Posted: 9/8/2007 7:34:31 AM
3rdedition, I have to agree with you.

Mind you, I love animals and have three cats who are strictly indoor cats. If a date were to complain about my cats jumping on my furniture, I'd have to say that it's my house, my furniture, and my cats and none of his business. However, if I were walking a dog, no way would I let it pee on someone else's property, and animal-lover or not, if I saw someone allowing their dog to lift their leg in the direction of my parked car, there would definitely be words, and I wouldn't care how special the dog's breed was. That date's suggestion might have saved the OP from an a$$-whooping someone down the line.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 39 (view)
 
Get a grip of the reality of your age
Posted: 9/2/2007 8:19:28 PM
I guess the truth of it is that I don't really even think about my age, and I'm sort of surprized when other people do. Yeah, I do suffer from occasional stiffness and the grays are coming in thicker, but then again, it's not totally unheard of for a person in their twenties to suffer from arthritis or have grey hair. I've certainly grown more accepting of myself, and spend a lot less time trying to make myself over into something or someone that I'm not...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 83 (view)
 
Brokeback Mountain
Posted: 7/29/2007 10:48:00 PM
Hey Brownsugar!

I just saw the movie on dvd, and I agree with your assessment. The movie was deeply resonant for me , and I'm about as heterosexual a woman as you will ever find. It was less about two gay men as it was about being unable to be yourself or to love the person you love because you are trapped in a certain place and time. I also found the contrast between the mountain and the protagonists' homes to be an interesting commentary on relationships in general; the choice seemed to be between the beautiful but unpredictable, and the stable but suffocating. What the protagonist wanted but were unable to achieve is what most of us want but few can achieve: a relationship which remains spontaneous, but can be relied upon. In the end, Heath Ledger's character, like many of us, chooses solitude over settling...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 49 (view)
 
Why does it feel like there is no one out there for me???
Posted: 7/29/2007 2:17:07 PM
OP, honey...

I know where you're at... When I was your age many, many, (oh, so many...) years ago, being part of a couple, knowing that there was one person out there who not only could love me for who I was but would love me because of who I was, was of the highest importance to me. Years later, after a number of failed relationships, I realized that being alone was far preferable to being in the wrong relationship. That's when life really started to get good. I began using all that time I wasted on fretting about being in a relationship on things that really made me happy on my own. If someone were to come into my life now, they'd find someone who wasn't dependent upon them for happiness, which takes a lot of pressure off of them, and makes it better for everyone all around.

Hey newmn, loved your post, loved your profile. Shame you're so far away...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 278 (view)
 
eHarmony...STAY AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!
Posted: 7/27/2007 2:06:02 PM
A quick update on my previous post...


I also was rejected by E-Harmony, even though I'm a Christian. I thought it was kinda funny that they wouldn't even try to match me with with anyone, but at least they didn't take my money. I guess being unique has it's advantages....


I recently changed internet service providers, resulting in a change in my e-mail address. Out of curiousity, I revisited E-Harmony and took the test again. For some reason, I'm now accepted, matchable, even desireable!!! (Heeheehee!)

Isn't it amazing what a little change of e-mail addy can do?
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 62 (view)
 
QuirkyAlone?
Posted: 7/27/2007 1:36:23 PM
Hey Nick Thinker-


I was wondering. Quirky Alones, what is their sex life like. When not in a rel, what do they do? Abstain? Self satisfy, for how long? Have 1-niters, FB or FwB? How long can a QA go w/o some sort of sex/Eros? Is that why they/we are "quirky", lack of sex?


Check response #27. I actually answered your question there...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 27 (view)
 
QuirkyAlone?
Posted: 7/26/2007 8:30:45 AM
Hey Nick!

Was quite intrigued by your post regarding Players.

In the interest of adding more info to the QuirkyAlone profile, (and possibly more fuel to the fire, I found the following quotes in the FAQ section of a website entitled, www.todolistmagazine.com:


Q. Are quirkyalones celibate?
A. Quirkyalones are not celibate. That said, we don't have that much sex either. However, we are human and when pressure and frustration builds we do go on the occasional sexual spree . . . which brings us to our next question.

Q. I know someone who is constantly hooking up but doesn't get into relationships. Is she quirkyalone?
A. Good question. If your friend's standards for companionship are very high, but for a Saturday night fling, very low, she goes by another name. This person is a quirkyslut, and she should wear that title proudly.


It suggests that QuirkyAlones are as likely to be predators as prey...

BTW, am not sure what my personality type is, but I'm a Scorpio...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 1 (view)
 
QuirkyAlone?
Posted: 7/25/2007 6:37:28 PM
I recently became aware of a new description for a type of single person: the QuirkyAlone. On her website about this group, Sasha Cagen describes them as follows:


We are the puzzle pieces who seldom fit with other puzzle pieces. We inhabit singledom as our natural resting state. In a world where marriage and proms define the social order, we are, by force of our personalities and inner strength, rebels.

Yet make no mistake: We are no less concerned with coupling than your average serial monogamist. Secretly, we are romantics, romantics of the highest order. We want a miracle. Out of millions we have to find the one who will understand.

For the quirkyalone, there is no patience for dating just for the sake of not being alone. On a fine but by no means transcendent date we dream of going home to watch television. We would prefer to be alone with our own thoughts than with a less than perfect fit. We are almost constitutionally incapable of casual relationships.

It would be better to be untethered and open to possibility, living for the exhilaration of meeting someone new, of not knowing what the night will bring. We seek momentous meetings.

By the same token, being alone is understood as a wellspring of feeling and experience. Our weekends are full of intricate rituals. There is a bittersweet fondness for silence. All those nights alone, travelling, going to movies alone—they bring insight.

"You should not let yourself be confused in your solitude by the fact that there is something in you that wants to break out of it. People have (with the help of conventions) oriented all their solutions toward the easy and toward the easiest side of the easy; but it is clear that we must hold to what is difficult."


This description seems to fit me pretty well... Anyone else?
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 135 (view)
 
Why do young men think older women are interested in them?
Posted: 7/19/2007 7:16:09 AM

Ive' had the same type e-mails, I think, they think, I'm desperate!!! One thing about being older, Ive' heard it all!


I tend to agree. I've even stretched the margin to +/- 10 years, but the last guy to e-mail me was only 19. It brought to mind that old joke...


Women are like cow chips... the older they are, the easier they are to pick up...


Old I am. Cow crap I am not...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 83 (view)
 
Saw My Wedding ring On My X Husbands New Girlfriend!
Posted: 7/18/2007 7:23:20 AM

Well Princess, I think it would depend a bit on how serious he is about the new girlfriend. The prblm is, there are children involved. If you feel you absolutely positvly have to make sure she knows she's got your old ring, then you need to be gentle - after all - SHE'S not the one that was married to you - he's the one your emotions should be felt towards, if you are feeling anything about it at all. Maybe the next time you see her, just GENTLY (not flipantly or spitefully) tell her that the ring looks much better on her (say it like you honestly mean it). She will figure the rest out for herself. Don't have your ex in the room when you do it though - this doesn't need an asshat for an audience. Or, you could just have a little grace, realize it's not HER fault, and let the matter alone. The only time I'd speak to the ex about it, is if you had intended to give the ring to one of the children, and you feel strongly about it. Good luck with your decision.


Possibly the best response I've seen posted...

While many respondents replied that the ring is a symbol of a relationship that no longer exists, I think they're missing one really important factor: With two children between them, their relationship will NEVER be over. The OP will be connected to this excuse for a man until the kids reach adulthood, and possibly for the rest of their lives. The fact that he took the ring without even letting her know, then gave it to someone else who would be wearing it around the OP indicates that he is either incredibly hurtful, or possibly the most dense human to ever walk upright.

Frankly, OP, if you don't say anything about this behavior, you can expect more of the same in the future, and it's gonna be a real long future. If you really want the ring back, say something.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 74 (view)
 
Chemistry
Posted: 7/16/2007 7:19:15 AM

well exactly, you can't possibly know if there's any chemistry between you and someone until you meet!


Couldn't agree less...

I think of chemistry as the way two people react to each other (like chemicals...) It can explode or just fizzle depending on any number of factors. The way in which a guy/girl expresses themself (or fails to express themself) can attract a person as much or more than a cute face or hot body.

Something to think about when you write your profile...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 42 (view)
 
What Do You Expect???
Posted: 7/12/2007 10:35:08 AM

I have no expectations of people... and I'm never disappointed.


I am, however, frequently shocked...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 43 (view)
 
i dont date anyone i cant see myself marrying
Posted: 7/11/2007 11:32:12 AM

I have never understood the dating for fun thing.


I don't know about anyone else here, but if dating isn't fun, I don't want to do it. I already have a full time job, so I'm not making the search for a husband into a profession.

Once again, the guys I date are in no way being led on; we're always in total agreement regarding our degree of committment. They may have qualities that I don't want in a husband, and I may have qualities that they don't want in a wife. At the same time, we're not trying to change each other into what the other wants; we just appreciate each others good qualities, and enjoy fun activities together. (And I'm talking about dinners, movies, plays, amusement parks, etc... We keep our clothes on and our hands to ourselves...)

I'm sorry if I'm supposed to feel guilty about that, but I just don't see what the problem is...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 38 (view)
 
i dont date anyone i cant see myself marrying
Posted: 7/10/2007 6:43:30 PM

Really! If I limited myself exclusively to dating my chosen angel, I'd probably NEVER date; BUT my decision would deprive me of the bulk of all the learning experiences and lessons on human interaction I could derive from life (maybe even a few lessons about the birds and the bees). I could never, in good conscience, hold earnestly made plans to meet, close up, such wonderful people as my beautiful friend Indigo Rose and others, because I would be tethered to the thought of "saving myself" for my angel.


Ah, Thudpucker, you raise an interesting question...

What, exactly, defines a date?

If I go to dinner, a movie, have a night in watching videos, etc... one-on-one with someone of the opposite sex, at what point does it become a date?

There are men in my life that I consider myself to be dating because for all intensive purposes, the meetings are very much in the form of a date. We have gotten to know each other enough to realize that marriage isn't an option, yet we still like getting together, and are continually getting to know each other better. The time I have spent with these people is an important part of my life and not something I'm willing to give up easily...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 31 (view)
 
i dont date anyone i cant see myself marrying
Posted: 7/10/2007 10:43:38 AM
Wow, didn't think I needed to clarify...


isn't that possibly "leading a guy on". Do the guys you "date" know you'd never marry them.
I'd be too worried about giving a woman the wrong impression, and stomping on herfeelings to just 'date" a woman for fun, with no intentions of ever wanting a serious relationship with her.

and often, if a guy were to date a woman he'd never marry,( just because he likes her company), a lot of women would gang up on him and call him a "player"


A) He knows that I don't want a serious relationship with him, so I'm not leading him on.
B) He doesn't want a serious relationship with me either, so I'm not getting lead on.

Are we never supposed to spend time with anyone we're not walking down the aisle with? I hope I don't have to limit my social contacts to people with female genitalia...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 20 (view)
 
i dont date anyone i cant see myself marrying
Posted: 7/9/2007 1:37:39 PM
I can somewhat see your point, but...

There are guys I've dated over extended periods of time just because I liked their company. I did that just last night, as a matter of fact. The guy is an absolute sweetheart, with a big heart, a great sense of humor and a very upbeat personality. Beside that, he's as cute as they come. He would be a really great catch if it weren't for the fact that I've watched him drink to the point of blacking out... numerous times. So while he's a really great guy, I know that I could never marry him. Does that mean that I won't date him? I wouldn't have as much fun without him...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Relationship Role Models
Posted: 7/7/2007 12:36:53 PM
I did a search of the forums and have not found this thread yet, so here goes...

Is there one couple that you can think of that you believe has the kind of relationship you would like to have, and if so, what is it about their relationship that you find ideal?

In my case, my parents come to mind. While they had their occasional arguments, they respected each others differences, and always kept a united front when they faced difficulties. The most lasting impression for me was when my mother was dying of cancer. Not only did my father stand by her through years of battling the disease, he always made sure that she knew how much he loved her, and how beautiful he thought she was. Then, after mom died, he took care of my mother's mother until she died. To this day, I look for a man who will stand by me like that.

OK, now it's your turn...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 76 (view)
 
To the Just want a good man women
Posted: 7/4/2007 7:31:27 AM
As for the looks don't matter camp. Don't make me laugh. Of course they do. He has to look good to ME. I have to look good to HIM.
No way will I be interested in getting wrapped round a man if I can't stand the sight of him and my ego can survive the fact that there are millions of men out there who Won't find me pretty either.


Amen, sister!

There are certain personality traits in a man that I find desireable. While I don't need a man to financially support me, I would like him to be responsible with his own finances; I don't need to spend the rest of my life paying off someone elses debts. I'm faithful in relationships, and consider fidelity extremely important; I shouldn't have to make weekly trips to the gynecologist to treat the STD de jour that an unfaithful partner brings home. Kindness, consideration, humor... all good things. But I have to have some attraction for my partner. What I consider attractive may or may not be attractive to someone else, so I'm certainly not limiting my dating pool to pretty boys. But I refuse to close my eyes and think of England everytime things get intimate because the "good" guy who wants to date me is physically repulsive to me.

P.S.: Am I the only one that's noticed that many of those complaining about never getting responses have no picture posted?
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 34 (view)
 
Trusting someone in a new relationship
Posted: 7/4/2007 7:10:05 AM
I'm sorry, all you trusting souls out there, but my trust has to be earned.

I used to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, take everyone at their word, but I found that too many mistook my kindness for weakness. It's not that I completely mistrust everyone; experience has taught me to measure the value of what I trust a person with against their track record. If the person hasn't been around long enough to have established any kind of track record, I take it real slow, and keep anything of value to myself.

A friend of mine recently lent her car to a guy who she said she had known from childhood. He failed to return it to her on time, then it wound up being towed, and she wound up having to pay a couple of hundred dollars that she didn't have to get it back.

Responsibility and Integrity are NOT a given. As they would say on Hill Street Blues, lets all be careful out there.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 64 (view)
 
Go Grey or dye?
Posted: 6/30/2007 2:58:17 PM

I have had my hair highlighted blond. It is woven in with the silver grey and my natural colourand looks great. No roots showing up around the two week mark. It lasts about six weeks and then needs a touch up.


I do the same thing!

I have very dark hair, and increasing, but very scattered gray. Not being good with home haircolor kits (it winds up on the walls, the floors, the ceiling...), I was going to the hairdresser all the time to cover the gray roots. Now I just highlight every few months, the gray blends in, and it looks flattering. It's just the thing for a low maintenance girl...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Partner trying to change the way you look
Posted: 6/29/2007 9:07:03 AM
I guess it would depend on what they want to change and why.

If the person sees the potential for a better version of me by way of a change that is of no harm or detriment to me, and that is reversable should it not be an improvement, then I don't think I'd have a huge problem.

If the person is asking me to do something permanent and potentially hazardous in order to make me more like a completely different person who he can't have, then we have a real problem....
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 47 (view)
 
A prude?????? Am I the only one???
Posted: 6/26/2007 6:09:10 PM

None of us are OBLIGATED to go with Anyone we don't want to..........



IF and WHEN I determine you are sponge worthy, I will decide whether or not you get the honor of seeing my Victoria's secrets!


Amen, Sisters!

Unfortunately, there will always be a few out there that think that every member of the opposite sex should just roll over and play doggie for them. If they can't accept your right to your own standards, they should just keep walkin'...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 1007 (view)
 
What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 6/26/2007 5:52:27 PM
It's a pretty good way to guarantee that you'll never be happy again.

It's kind of related to what Clint Eastwood said in "Unforgiven":
It's a terrible thing, killing a man; you take away everything he has and everything he's ever gonna have.

If there's a possibility for even greater joy ahead, why risk it?
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 123 (view)
 
so you viewed me and now what?????????
Posted: 6/23/2007 7:36:21 PM

When you view someone it is a strictly enforceable contract that binds your souls together... You form a covenant that is unbreakable and you must commit to one another in some kind of serious way.


Snort! (Ok, that was just me laughing...)

I looked into a tree and saw a squirrel... now I'm pregnant with his furry little child...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 22 (view)
 
now that you are OLDER/MIDDLE AGED, do you spend less time on grooming?
Posted: 6/22/2007 12:18:19 PM
I spend much, much less time on primping now than when I was younger...

I shower, wash my hair, and use deodorant daily, but that's just basic grooming, like brushing your teeth twice a day. I still have my hair cut once every 8 weeks at a salon, but as more grey started coming in, I opted for professionally done highlights rather than constantly dying my hair dark. (Much less work, and a much softer look...) As my hair has gotten longer, I stopped blowdrying it to prevent damage. Experience has taught me that less makeup works better in the long run; mascara only winds up in racoon circles under my eyes, eyeshadow wears off unevenly, dark lipstick winds up on my teeth, nail polish chips. (The last time I wore makeup was for a photo shoot; I put it on so that the lighting wouldn't wash me out, and I removed it ten minutes after the shots were taken.) I had the eyebrows and liner tattooed on years ago. Now it's just concealer (where needed) and lip gloss and I'm out the door. Oh, and the clothes are from WalMart or Target; I don't have the money to spend on clothes that I did back in the '80's. (I don't think anyone has the money now that they had in the '80's.... ) I think I look better than I did back in the years when I was blowdrying, styling, polishing and painting.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Making Someone Who Doesn't Love You Stay Anyway
Posted: 6/21/2007 11:24:38 AM
Actually, it's pretty simple....

When two people get together, both are generally on their best behavior. After a period of time, both partners become their real selves, sometimes for better, but usually for worse...

Unfortunately, first impressions can be lasting.

It's not that people want to stay in an unhappy relationship; it's that they want to stay in the happy relationship that they only thought they had. They're not really in love with their SO; they're still in love with the person that they thought that their SO was, and who they think that their SO could be again. It's not until the person realizes that this "love of their life" was just an illusion that they can move on....
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 125 (view)
 
I LOVE you......I'm just not IN LOVE with you...
Posted: 6/21/2007 11:10:54 AM

Basically you get up every morning and decide whether you are going to continue to work toward the better good of a realtionship. Its not about love, chemistry, being in love or any other fancy name you want to throw at it. These are part of it, and they come and go. The main part of being in a relationship is ones choice to make it work or not. The bad part is that both people have to wake up each morning and make the same decision.


Codedout-

Well, I know that I'm at least the second person on this thread to agree fully with what you just said. I've heard the "I LOVE you......I'm just not IN LOVE with you..." line said to me, and I've said it in return. I knew that when I said it, I was doing the other person the biggest favor in the world; I was telling them that while I deeply appreciate the unique, wonderful, God-given person that they are, and the joy I get from having them in my life, I also recognize that either they or I lack the qualities needed to satisfy each other on any continuing, long-term basis. I, for one, know that I'm neither a girly-girl or a domestic goddess; anyone looking for those qualities will never be satisfied with me, and eventually they'll make me more than aware of it. On the other hand, a guy who's not easily affectionate, or who's constantly critical won't keep me satisfied for any extended period of time; in the back of my mind, I'll always wonder if there's someone else out there who will.

Bottom line, you have to decide whether the person who said that to you can offer enough to keep them in your life, or whether they will continue to cause you pain, and decide from there....
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 234 (view)
 
Is kissing more or less important to you in a relationship as you get older?
Posted: 6/20/2007 1:22:14 PM

As you've gotten older, is kissing more or less important to you in a relationship? Do the kisses you receive from the opposite sex today seem to have the same passion, intensity and sensitivity as the kisses you remember from your teenage years? Do the people you kiss today seem to consider kissing just a preliminary to the "good stuff?"


Unfortunately, most of the people I kiss today see it as a preliminary to the "good stuff", so much so that a really good kiss has become the "good stuff". It's also become a really important screening process. If a partner lacks the passion and imagination to be a good kisser, they're not likely to find it as a lover.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Is Chemistry Overrated?
Posted: 6/20/2007 2:53:48 AM

Yes, it is. In the order of what makes things work, chemistry comes right after good manners.
If you treat people with respect, and there is no chemistry, you will come out of it with anything between a good acquaintance and a great friend.
If you treat people with respect, and there is chemistry, you will come out of it with a best friend and an amazing lover.
If you treat people w/out respect, and there is chemistry, you will come out of it with 3 months of amazing sex and another 3 months of pure hell.
If you cannot have chemistry with someone who treats you with respect, well, I've already answered this one.

Finding chemistry is not hard. Finding chemistry with someone who does not use you like a human toilet is very, very, very hard indeed.


Scorpio-
I couldn't haved said it better myself..... (So I didn't even try!)
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Settling for 2nd best
Posted: 6/11/2007 12:33:18 PM

I have decided to just let him do as he has choosen...


Gee, OP, that's mighty big o' ya, but I suspect that you didn't have that much say in the matter...

I don't think your friend is the first person in the world to want to get on with his life when he couldn't have the one he wanted. And while he may have jumped into a new relationship a little fast, he probably would have settled down with another partner eventually. Just a fact of life...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 92 (view)
 
How do you know if you have met the one?
Posted: 6/11/2007 12:23:30 PM
This thread has really made me wonder as to whether another thread should be started...

Can you really find "the one" on a website?

All of the guys I've been in meaningful relationships with have been people who I have had reason to interact with on a regular basis and get to know. They've been men I've met at school, work or church. I wasn't really attracted to them when I first met them, but through regular exposure, I became familiar with their personality and character. Then, one day, blammo! All of a sudden, they became incredibly attractive to me, because of the people I knew them to be...

This may be a case for regular POF get-togethers!
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 133 (view)
 
Dating Turn Off Triggers
Posted: 6/11/2007 12:07:02 PM

-picking his nose while eating


Only while eating?

My turn off is a guy who wants me to change everything about my life for him...
Change my job, my religion, get rid of my pets....
There are a lot of great looking women on this site, so if all you like about me are my looks, look elsewhere!
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Choosing a mate based on Unconscious Psychological need to resolve childhood issues?
Posted: 6/11/2007 12:00:25 PM
I have noticed that I have a very pronounced tendancy to date men who share characteristics with my father. (Working class, plain spoken, strong work ethic and, unfortuately, a love for cigarettes and alcohol) What I never fail to find amusing is that when my father meets these guys, he invariably hates them!
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 1464 (view)
 
Why men wont date independant women
Posted: 6/11/2007 11:41:42 AM

MANY women simply use the word "independent" to make sure it's understood she's NOT looking for a man to provide her( and maybe her kids) with a roof over their heads, bail her butt out of deep debt, fix her house and or her car....
And then there are men who can ONLY feel comfortable with a woman they've "rescued"...again it doesn't say much for the guy's self esteem, or maybe he has to feel superior and in control.


When I describe myself as independent, I'm not just telling a man that I don't need him to rescue me, I'm also saying that I'm looking for an equal partner and companion. The only expectations that I'm putting on the guy is that he be enjoyable company. Unfortunately, I've dated (and dumped) too many guys who just wanted me to cook their meals, clean their house, watch their kids and listen to their nonsense for no other apparent reason than that they have male genitalia. How on earth do I benefit from that? On the other hand, if a guy's open to cooking and cleaning together, can drop the whole master/servant mindset and wants to have a bit of fun, we could have something...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 57 (view)
 
How Quit is Quit?
Posted: 6/11/2007 11:07:35 AM
"Honestly as a smoker think Once a smoker always a smoker... should be a 12 step program to take the quitting one day at a time... I should have listened to my daddy when he told me if I started (at 15) I'd never be able to quit! This from a man who one day up and quit and never smoked again. I made it for 7 weeks one time because I thought I was surrounded by non-smokers whom I respected, then one day saw one of them light up and that was that. I hate being so weak.... try to stop at least once a year It is the hardest thing in the world to quit! I only wish the non-smokers could understand that smokers do try.. and fail....! Maybe a little compassion for the addicted to tobacco would work wonders in aiding us smokers to quit, besides all the bitter unconstuctive stuff that is thrown our way. "

GirlFlower, my heart goes out to you....

I read somewhere that nicotine addiction is harder to overcome than just about any other, including addiction to heroin. There actually is a 12-step program for those trying to quit smoking.. visit http://www.nicotine-anonymous.org/ for details.

My next door neighbor, a stunning woman who could have easily been a model, died from throat cancer caused by smoking. I'll never forget the image of this once-beautiful woman, bald from chemo and with a mass in her neck the size of a baseball, puffing on a cigarette. My own father still struggles with his habit, even though he now has emphysemia. It makes me wonder how cigarette manufacturers can sleep at night...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Christian-other?
Posted: 6/9/2007 2:20:08 PM
I used to attend Calvary Chapel, which describes itself as a non-denominational church. Calvary Chapel has worship centers throughout the United States, and is VERY Bible-based. They really don't make up the rules as they go along; scripture is consulted regarding every question in life, and daily study is encouraged. As the church itself doesn't align itself with any particular denomination, I certainly wouldn't have the audacity to do it for them. I did, however, find my transition into the Baptist Church to be very smooth.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
what does emotionally unavailable mean
Posted: 5/22/2007 9:09:32 AM
I wouldn't say that an emotionally unavailable person is "just not that into you"; I think its that they're not able to be into anybody at that point in time.

My favorite description of an emotionally unavailable person is that they are like dogs listening for a high pitched whistle that only they can hear.....
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 57 (view)
 
FORGOT MY BIRTHDAY!
Posted: 5/22/2007 8:40:46 AM
Smart Blonde...
You were right to pick that screen name!

I waited four months for an ex while he was finishing up an eight-year prison sentence, took him in when he had nowhere to live, and drove him around because he had no licence. The night before my birthday, we even made plans to celebrate. The night of my birthday, he stood me up so that he could go to a strip club with his buddies, then was offended when I expressed my disappointment in his actions. I forgave him that and more, but his behavior never improved. It wasn't until after we split and I started dating much more considerate men that I realized how much I had put up with, and how much time I had wasted with him.

OP - Your partner's actions are just a taste of things to come. Run while you can...
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Attraction in your 50's
Posted: 5/10/2007 3:49:15 PM
I'm proud to say that I'm 46, born in November 1960.

I can't entirely agree with the statement that age is just a number. My friends range from their 20's up to their 80's. What I most notice with my younger friends is that the experiences they are having and the lessons they are learning are ones that I've had, learned, and fully processed years ago. My older friends must get a good laugh hearing me talking about what I'm experiencing now. I can't, in any aspect, imagine that I was more interesting, attractive or desireable when I was in my 20's than I am now. As far as I can see, I've just gotten better as I've gotten older.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 52 (view)
 
Accept Me as I Am....or forget about it?
Posted: 5/10/2007 3:20:17 PM
I have two sisters, and a very quirky ex-boyfriend who is still a very good friend. My one sister didn't approve of him because, as she said, he was "wierd". My other sister made a great observation: "Everyone is wierd to some extent. The question is, is it a wierd that you can live with?"
My ex is a heavy smoker, snores VERY loudly, and is quite an unusual (and at times, totally unkempt) looking man, but is such a sweet, kind, generous, and considerate soul that those less desireable traits were really easy to overlook.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 27 (view)
 
So Round So Firm & So Fully Packed! So whats the Problem!
Posted: 5/10/2007 1:33:54 AM
One of my co-workers can't see what the big deal is over having six-pack abs - he's got a keg!
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 53 (view)
 
Night Creatures Arise!
Posted: 5/8/2007 8:28:58 PM
I've been working 11pm - 7:30 am for the last couple of years, and my social life has actually been pretty good. For me, the problem had more to do with my days off. Originally, I was off on Wednesday/Thursday, so having to be at work by 11pm on Fridays and Saturdays really cramped my style. Now that I'm off on Saturdays and Sundays, life is pretty good. Most of my friends work when I sleep and sleep when I work during the weekdays, but I can catch them from 7pm - 11pm during the week, and pretty much the entire weekend. Plus, I love having the days available to run errands and schedule appointments.
 fanny
Joined: 7/5/2004
Msg: 70 (view)
 
Instant attraction V grow on you
Posted: 5/8/2007 8:18:59 PM
The love of my life (thus far) was a man who initially wasn't even remotely attractive to me. When I found out that he was interested in me, my first thought was "It figures... the world's oddest looking man would have to like me." But as I got to know him, his kindness, consideration, and sense of humor bowled me over. Before I knew it, I was absolutely head over heels for him, and he looked like the most beautiful man on earth to me. I was with him for four years, and we are still good friends to this day. On the other hand, I've met men who were initially very attractive to me who eventually repulsed me by there actions. I guess the key is to meet in situations where you will be exposed to the person on a regular basis, like at school, work, or a social organization, and decide how you feel about the person over time.
 
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