The point is not that sex is all-important, or the most important, or that sex is the only factor anyone is considering.

Nobody is supporting you, stud. Most people disagree with you, and most people assume you have no idea what you're talking about.

You're just a kid who doesn't understand what the adults are saying, and mouthing off on a topic you know nothing about.

And this disagrees with any of us how, exactly?

You're just different from most other guys.

I didn't call you a loser. You did.

That's why the burden is upon YOU to present your opinions in a clear and concise manner, moron.

But you have no understanding whatsoever of the people you disagree with.

it bugs me when ppl say "still a virgin" when theyre 18 or so because when are you supposed to lose it when youre 12?

It would be nice, however, if you didn't oppose those to the rest of us who disagree as if we were all horndogs who can't keep it in our pants. -molonel

OK, I have one word for you.....WUSS!!

She's using you because you LET her! Women want a challenge.....they want what they can't have. She can have you anytime she wants you. So where's the challenge? You're not her boyfriend...you're her fallback position. What's worse is you ALLOW this to happen to you. You willingly allow her to play you like a fiddle.

You really want to know what to do? Stop doing things for her! When she asks you to come down, tell her your busy. Stop calling her every day. Stop IM'ing her every day. When she calls you, every now and then tell you have a call on the other line and HANG UP. Then DON'T CALL HER BACK. Wait for her to do so. Go out of your way to make her think that, like her, you have something on the side. You have a life. You have things to do and places to go and people to see. And if she wants to be a part of your life, then she's going to have to put forth some effort.

Also, the next time she needs something from you, DON'T GIVE IT TO HER!! Tell her "gee, that's too bad....but I know you. You'll figure something out." or "you're a rescourseful person. You'll find a way to make it work" something to that effect. When you do see her, take to a bar or club, then as soon as you get there LEAVE HER THERE. Go off and talk to another girl or 3. Make sure she sees you doing this. On the way home brag about how many phone numbers you got that night (even if you didn't get any....tell you you got some).

One last thing. The next time she mentions her other guy, make an excuse and either close out of messenger or hang up the phone. Do that EVERY TIME she mentions him. If she wants to keep talking to you, she'll get the hint after a while and she'll stop doing it.

You're the one in controll here. You have to stop thinking with your heart and start thinking with your head. It's hard as hell to do, but it can be done. You do this, and I guarantee you she will either a) leave you alone, in which case she was never attracted to you to begin with, or b) she'll suddenly see you as a challenge and SHE will start chasing YOU.

Listen well, young Padewan.

Of course I would wait until marriage. But keep in mind that I'm a unique creature. Most guys wouldn't. And she would have to be really special...but that's obvious, I would never marry someone unless we knew we were meant for each other.

Of course, I think the "other things" would be close enough to the actual thing to get the idea of what intercourse would be like. But I'm nevertheless shocked at how much value people put on the sex act itself...I would think that the attractiveness of someone's body and personality, as well as how that person relates to you emotionally and life-goal wise, would be the deciding factor for marriage. Weird.

I could wait but, sex is addictive to some some ppl. I guess it depends on the individual

i now exactly what i typed

but you are analyzing every word typed

you know nothing about the man that the woman was talking about yet you are ready to defend him

and i just stated an opinion

and no one ever said that this man had sex with someone underage and that was why he was charged with rape...that subject came up later... so who is assuming

so you and your buddy above you can talk trash to me all you want...but it was you that was assuming...

oh geessesh..you guys just jump to conclusions....and you are reading far into what has been said...no bother even wasting time with close-minded people..not all but some...
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oh yeah p.s. there is a big difference between 15 and 17 and 15 and 30...and raping someone violently is much different than stat. rape..so please...read before you type..

He was 25 and "she" told him "she" was 14.

He tried to meet a minor for sex..lucky for her ..she was really a he.. and a cop.

I'm a prude,never smoked pot,never been loaded,don't have casual sex.Oh well.Maybe i need to start a why don't guys want nice girls thread.

Honesty is required at the very begining of a relationship! Some say that opening your heart is the most honest act any human being is capable of doing, wether in love or friendship....................marriage is a different story :)

It's what you do that makes you a good human being, not what you do NOT do.

Please note, I'm not saying anything about you, personally. I don't know you.

But neither am I particularly impressed by someone whose only claim to morality is abstaining from activities which are, in and of themselves, neither good nor bad.

and well jazzhomie, then 90% of the population is damaged goods in some way

But it is in the eyes of the woman/man what is nice. What is nice to me may not be what is nice to another woman. When a man looks at himself (or a woman) as nice that is great and hopefully they find a person that they wish to have as a companion to view them the same.

They should consider themselves lucky to be with a guy that is so sweet and would take care of them..thats how u gotta look at it guys..if they dont appreciate you, then there not worth it, move on

Men give love to get sex and women give sex to get love.

When it rises....generally "sex" is on the cards.