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 Author Thread: Why some men never want marry?
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 338 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/24/2009 8:31:33 AM
msg 336 lol.
Untrue other than the last two.
Having kids isn't scarey when you feel you can have faith in the womans general principles. Without doubt, at all.
Marriage to me is though. It completely unbalances things.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 46 (view)
 
How do YOU stop loving someone
Posted: 11/23/2009 4:34:20 PM
Sometimes when I see things such as this, I wonder.
I wonder if it would be better if feelings were so mechanical as to have off switches.
Or such as they are and beyond us, leaving us vulnerable to the great hurt. But with it true emotion.

Think carefully OP. Loss and pain are good. They remind you of things and play as great a role in your life as love and gain.

Go through what you must. Either the hurt will out last you, or you will outlast the hurt. Guess which I think will survive the longest.

Actually reading some of these posts, reminded me of an interesting question I saw once. "How do you want to be loved?" Its a curious one. A random thought for the day.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 93 (view)
 
Is being yourself really good advice?
Posted: 11/23/2009 4:25:14 PM
Who are you OP?
Your name? Nope thats a label. A jar marked pickles may or may not contain pickles.
Your job? Rather one dimensional to assume thats true.
Your age? Thats a measure for how long you've been on earth, not really you either.
Your hobbies? See job ...
Your body? That changes with time, entirely in fact. You however have remained constantly there.
These things are aspects of you though. But still none of it is who you are, exactly.

And then theres; if you are not you, then who are you? How will that relate to others, when you who you were starts to be as you are?

These are simple, fundemental questions.

Not to mention the suggested meanings behind the requirements behind the concept of not being you.
Such as, do you feel you are not enough, hence this requirement? If so why not? Also what sort of person do you wish to be with, one who is attracted to you or someone else? If the latter, which is the position this would put you in, would this not fuel, and further internalise that you are not enough?

And so on.
I prefer being me, being a picky pain the az as me, being someone who is only sometimes liked and disliked. At least its honest *shrugs*
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 13 (view)
 
sticking to your own 'kind'
Posted: 11/22/2009 1:42:52 PM
What exactly is my own kind?
Should I use; colour, ideology, height, wieght?
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 50 (view)
 
All or nothing…. or just settle for a companion
Posted: 11/22/2009 1:13:51 PM
Goldfish, eh? sounds interesting.
All or nowt, if/when I get my all then I will just settle.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 69 (view)
 
secret fancy
Posted: 11/22/2009 1:10:15 PM
2 when I was a kid. The others ain't secrets.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 97 (view)
 
Married woman becoming pregnant as the result of rape - does husband stay or leave
Posted: 11/22/2009 7:38:28 AM
msg 96, I respectfully disagree. I do not hold to the idea that a man will simply leave because she got raped. She may however never feel safe with her man and never really let him close again however, that would eventually end it. But thats not in every case, is it?

However - for those that think by opting to leave, therefore not taking responsibility for another mans child. That this is blaming the child. Please explain how.

Im all for holding a guy responisble for *his* offspring. I fail to see why someone else should. She wants his child, fine, go take up the responsibilty speach with that blighter.

Don't like it? Think I'm blaming an unborn? Tell me how.
In my mind, I blaming the woman for the choice to birth someone elses child, and then wanting me to be responsible for her choice.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 36 (view)
 
Playing the
Posted: 11/22/2009 12:57:04 AM
On saying to a telemarketer.

OK now that is funny as hell. Trouble is they almost never call here now. Nor the guys that knock on the door. Its a shame, they're depriving me of unannounced entertainment. Love winding those guys up lol.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 53 (view)
 
Self defence.
Posted: 11/22/2009 12:51:32 AM
Ahh Pikachoo your an advocate of the RLF technique of self defense then? Run Like F**K lol. I agree its highly efficient under the right conditions.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 90 (view)
 
Married woman becoming pregnant as the result of rape - does husband stay or leave
Posted: 11/22/2009 12:44:12 AM
I was taught by my mother, of all people! To not deny my feelings. Those are mine. Didn't ask you to like them - and I am not ashamed. I'd prefer being candid.

Shame works on small children to manipulate their self identity. Not on fully developed men. You can try to make it about what ever you like for your shaming tactics to work. Your just proving a point, the point from where this stance has often developed from. Also your ignoring our issues/perspectives over a hypothetical situation, and stating with out reason we should see it from yours (because you think we should feel ashamed of ours). Curious.

Guess this is one of those things where some men and some women differ. Guess this is one of those things where we don't have to put up with this sort of thing if we don't want to.

"That's just low"
Is that a comment on the men, who do not wish to tolerate lying women, who will go that low. Or the women who will? The context of your statement seems to imply its about the men rather than the women.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 64 (view)
 
What we women do for a date..
Posted: 11/21/2009 2:28:30 PM
Huh? if you do this for you .... then what was the point in all this?
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 81 (view)
 
Married woman becoming pregnant as the result of rape - does husband stay or leave
Posted: 11/21/2009 2:11:03 PM
If I decided to get with someone who adamantly believed in no abortion regardless of circumstances - well I chose a whole package. I'll do my duty as per my choices.

If that is not true. Differing story. Its not enough that she was a victim (and will need a lot of support and care to get anywhere near overcoming it). She now wants me deal with her birthing another mans child and make me responsible for it? She wants me to deal with the pregnancy between us? She wants me to care for another mans child, that was not there before hand? So she wants to extend the victimhood?

Yea, what a wonderful thing to bring to a relationship. For better for worse? It goes both ways sweetheart.We aint talkin about a disease, but a conscious choice to make it worse.

It brings to mind such things as just how much of a rape was it?

For those that think that opting not be with someone who chooses a rapist above her husband is somehow making about the child - it aint, well thats not how I see it, and I guess others aswell. Guilt tripping over something like this aint gonna work.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 378 (view)
 
Should a man have a say regarding Abortion?
Posted: 11/21/2009 6:38:56 AM
*should'nt have the choice
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Wants to know about past realationship
Posted: 11/19/2009 9:38:58 AM
You told him about this, you now have a problem with him asking?
Who do you think you are to play such games?

Personally I would be very concerned. This other person, despite you saying its over represents some serious threat issues.

Does he know its over? Is he likely to accept it? Why is he in there? Why do you after dangling this tidbit of info now want to clam up? Are you playing games or are you doing something nefarious, beyond that?

I hope he reads this.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 36 (view)
 
Self defence.
Posted: 11/19/2009 7:00:22 AM
A belt round your trousers doubles up nicely as useful 'tool' for this sort of job.
weighted (or not)whip, restraint (having pinned or mid combat), block against other weapons, destracter, sling (both for breaks and rocks).

Also handy for making sure your trousers stay up.

While your at it, carry some loose change in your pocket to throw at thier faces when they move in on you. Its difficult to strike someone when theres a load of pennies flyin at your eyes.

Also handy for coke machines.

Completely innocent items you can walk round with for defensive purposes.
Also not normally looked at as weapons. Blades really dont work out so well. Also those are rarely thought of as weapons. With other items, if something does go wrong, it wont look like you had any intention other than seriously wounding if not killing.


Chances are you wont even realise you got these items when under duress tho ...
But just so those that do feel a need for defensive weapons - you can now feel happpier.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Whats wrong with people
Posted: 11/19/2009 5:49:16 AM
Hate is counter productive. It is also known as anger. It is sometimes apart of the healing process. Sometimes, somethings just have to be gone through.

Each emotion acts a lens, through which certain aspects in life/people are highlighted and brought to the forefront of your perspective. It can help you see and maybe learn somethings that you may not have learned without that insight.

Anger and thus acting hateful is a destructive thing, it is meant to be. How this destruction is used is another question. Destruction is apart of the creative process in learning. Holding on to it, using it as a protective sheild is truely destructive, and tempting for many. (consider the idea of deciding never to let a woman close again, as you fear that if you have not changed sufficently that this will just repeat. Now this is true destruction, walking away and not staying with another cheater once you find out on the other hand means that what ever you went through is learning curve and things got broken and fixed).

Healing is a creative process, somehow we need to decimate an old thing, and in its place build a new thing. You can't build a new building if you leave the old one there.

OT: OP, The good news is that you have realised something that a lot of other people with that pattern don't. Well done. Also you don't as such have to change. Yet it would be advisable to develop yourself. Spend some alone time. In fact, do yet don't. Maybe fill that void with something else for a bit, expand your horizons. Live and learn. The only thing that I would suggest you take from it, is the little bit self worth development you have gained (decide not to stay with cheaters, practice it)- go through the thoughts and feelings that you must (I don't mean study it per se, just let it come and let it go).

Consider that through time a person can only become more fully themselves.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 377 (view)
 
Should a man have a say regarding Abortion?
Posted: 11/17/2009 9:17:26 AM
I don't think men should have a choice, neither the responsibility. No taxation without representation lol.
They say they are independant. Very well be so.

As one poster stated, she is more than willing to be deceitful, how can we know the rest won't be. Because they will be honest, perhaps?

I know some will argue the man should take responsibility. So should the woman, unless its about financial responsibility for your choices. Women have the choice as to whether they are parents, men as to whether they are sexual. These are not comparable. The result of the choice, is whether someone else is a parent (irrespective of thier choices), the other is whether someone else can (legally) be sexual with them. There is no comparison.

I do support her body her choice. I just don't support a lack of equivelent for men.As its a matter of self determination. Basic human right, unless we consider it reasonable to consider only gender is worth of human rights of this caliber.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 327 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/16/2009 6:01:19 PM
Ya know I did at one point consider marriage.

I considered the devastation it caused my father. His brother. Family friends. My friends. By this I mean the divorces.
By this I mean the stress, the social repercussions, the financial repercussions.
I considered what-ifs of her being abusive. I saw the results of abusive women.
I considered the probabilities of being the custodial parent should my prospective partner be abusive. These chances turn out to disheartningly low.
I considered how the women turned themselves to be their previous husbands enemies.

I considered I have known of only one divorce where this was not true.
I considered that the only marriages I knew of that did not end via divorce were people as old as my grandparents.

I was a young man when I considered this. Nothing much has changed.

Then there came the world of stats. This compounded my perspectives.
"Damn it I was right. Its not just this area of the world, its an epidemic!"
Well something along those lines popped in my head.

Marriage is about honour. Honour is about giving things value and respect where there would be none/little without the honour. What exactly in this society suggests this is true of marriage? Of many things? Pretty words mean nothing, without compounding actions through the generations proving it.

You, reading this, may disagree with me. This is fine, feel free.

To the kindly person who suggests that there marriage is required of a guy to be a provider. I call BS. I know exactly what I felt when I held this small child in my arms.
I was a proud new father - so much of this world that she was to grow in needed sorting out. It was a new thing, not only the child, but who I was becoming with it. I was a father. Shame the DNA said she wasnt mine ... I can't really tell you what that did to me. And I realised, this is only a small taste of what a divorce could do for me.

So viewing this and other areas where it has been discussed, I consider it to be an insane proposition. Bear in mind its nice to be wrong, sometimes. So far nothing convinces me I am.
Perhaps one day I will be convinced, I have my doubts.

What does it boil down to?
A conviction that although marriage although marriage represents the old values, the system no longer does, peoples values in other areas by default negate the values of marriage. That the costs are too high, the balance of power, unbalanced. Why make myself more impotent to do anything in the worst case, simply by becoming married?

I refer in whole to the legal thing. I have nothing against the ceremony, other than its not my religion.


These kind of conversations remind me of the one about pregancy(as a physical pain) versus passing kidney stones. My position is theres no requirement for one to be more painful, it is enough that it is, both require attention and are equal in the sympathies due. To belittle one over the other is about supremcy(one person being worth more) and competition(attempting to prove it).

There is still more I could say, the bulk I have or alluded to. Many others have also, and I tire of it.

Lastly - if this is of importance to you, and it aint going to happen. Then perhaps your core values don't match. Perhaps you never loved each other how you both needed in the first place.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 128 (view)
 
Must have car and job=gold digger?
Posted: 11/15/2009 6:38:36 AM
Must have car and job=precursor for 'gold digger', but not an indicator.
Attitudes and actions displayed are better indicators.

However stating this from offset -could- (not should) be taken to be an indicator, still there maybe mitigating factors. It still comes down to: Attitudes and actions displayed are better indicators.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 181 (view)
 
Strong Willed Women
Posted: 11/14/2009 7:03:08 AM
First define, exactly what is meant by 'strong willed woman'. Then I can tell you my thoughts on it. There are too many shades of grey to it.

Then theres the issue of what many people say they think they are, and actually are.
The first issue I have is that many people say they are strong - and are anything but.
Moving on ..

Simple definition one, doesnt set her self up to be passive aggressive, does express her self, is not manipulative, can and does compromise, is not abusive/overbearing. Can handle being wrong decently.
Breath of fresh air girl - should I find one I may well want her.

Simple defination two, holds back key information (becomes passive aggressive), shouts, uses violence (verbal, emotional, physical - atleast one), has issues compromising, is overbearing, has issues with being wrong.
This type usually considers themselves strong as well. Each thing they spin to themselves as markers of being strong. They are as well - there are bruises and losses of self esteem in the other proving how strong they are. Extreeme prejudice is used in handling and keeping them out of my life.

This is highly simplistic.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Are there women/men who wait as long as 6 mos. before sex?
Posted: 11/13/2009 4:57:29 PM
Not to soon, not too late. Besides some women change their character alot once sex has happened. Not in good ways. This is useful to know when weeding them out.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 16 (view)
 
To the guy doing my wife..
Posted: 11/13/2009 4:15:35 PM
I don't know I had a now ex gf, and a guy was getting very interested in her.
I couldnt stand there - I said things to that effect, to him. In front of her.
What? I beleive in honesty ...
I also told her it was over.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 30 (view)
 
independent women fall the hardest
Posted: 11/13/2009 5:33:00 AM
OP:
Whose to know, some do, some don't. Some will, some won't. Just because one is one way, another maybe another. Each moment is a possibilty of change.

If this is more about what I think it is, you don't need a reason to believe you might or can fall hard in love with someone. You may or may not. Besides what does it mean to do so? Each of us may ascribe differing things to this. The important thing is to care for it when you do.

msg 23.
Evidently? Umm. Ever considered theres balance?
Light without dark means theres no day and no night. A person might at first think no dark means long days, but only until they live it. Vice versa.

You might want a guy that knows how to have fun, your style way. But I bet you might want one that knows when to stop and be something else as well.

What is it with people and extremity? Extremity in their views, often colouring how they act, often colouring how they view others as well. Is it to make things easier to catagorise and and understand? Black and white, is useful at times. Shades of grey too. Wonder what happens when the world is full of colour?
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Playing the
Posted: 11/12/2009 3:27:26 PM
Thats wrong. I'd prefer the humor with honesty.
At least then I could respect them after.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 21 (view)
 
New laws for men who pay for sex with vulnerable girls...is it enough?
Posted: 11/12/2009 8:43:40 AM
msg 16, in the uk we have the Interpretation Act of 1978 which states:

"In any Act, unless the contrary intention appears,—

(a)words importing the masculine gender include the feminine;

(b)words importing the feminine gender include the masculine;"

As yet I haven't read the Bill, nor, as far as I am aware is this yet an Act.
The question hangs on has an intention in this been made expressly obvious as to only apply to women. And lastly, this is the real important bit (on your point), will sexism prevent it from adaquatly protect male in the same way it does female.

Personally I dont think much until I read the bill in entirety at another time.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 69 (view)
 
Brainy women are less likely to marry?
Posted: 11/12/2009 8:34:47 AM
regarding msgs 67 & 68

I have met some wonderful people who I can honestly tell you were smarter than me by a long shot.
Some of them I felt not to great around. (intimidated perhaps, but somehow its not the right word.)
Some I thought were great people, I felt quite comfortable around them.

It depends on the person, some people need to feel superior, either in a blatant way or a not so blatant but still need to. These people I dislike.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 276 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/12/2009 8:29:19 AM
Well after reading this and the 'typical' and 'general' hate toward men, that is seemingly more prevalent, from many posters has convinced me of a rational stance to take toward marriage.

Don't ever do it.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 80 (view)
 
Women the superior sex
Posted: 11/12/2009 8:19:14 AM
A woman holds superiority over herself, a man himself. The rest is down to war.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 36 (view)
 
Prenatal DNA test for babies of affairs
Posted: 11/11/2009 12:49:11 PM
I think it should be allowed providing the husband is informed and its confirmed by an irrefutable method that it is the husband being informed.

He has a right to know that she has been exposing her self to potentially fatal diseases and with that, knowingly him. He should also be offered legal aid and she not as she is opting to be negligent.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Have you cheated death?
Posted: 11/11/2009 12:45:30 PM
Lets see ...
When I was a kid, the car door just sprung open despite child safety locks. While going round a round about. one foot hooked under the seat and a hand on the door kept my face inches off the road. My mother hit me for this - I had done nothing. She then told me off for not shouting. Ever tried shouting with your out the window when the cars traveling fast?

Another time, near the top of a cliff, climbing, no saftey gear. All but one of my holds broke loose. Lucky someone grabbed my wrist before that went too.

Got spiked in a pub. Paramedics couldnt find my pulse for chunks of the ambulance ride. I was conscious - just unable to communicate at all. Bloody git.

A few other close calls, but thats plenty.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 357 (view)
 
Should a man have a say regarding Abortion?
Posted: 11/11/2009 12:37:48 PM
Since I'd be the only one paying child support, and condoms do break more than I'd like. There is;
have sex = I want child, possibly without being in a couple.
dont have sex = I dont wont child.

Women are however entitled to a sex life, and self determination.
As a man Im not. Guess thats the deal.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 110 (view)
 
Women V/S Men
Posted: 11/11/2009 12:31:25 PM
Boys rule, girls make good pets.






What, its in response to a earlier post.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 73 (view)
 
Women the superior sex
Posted: 11/9/2009 4:52:03 PM

lol I don't mind admitting to playing on my femininity to get things done by a man :p

lol I don't mind admitting that I have walked away from idiots with that attitude.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 15 (view)
 
living with a partner with an ex addiction
Posted: 11/8/2009 11:16:01 AM
Personally I think anyone recovering from an addiction, needs to spend time just being themselves without the addiction. Develop an identity of themselves without it, before being in a relationship.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Women the superior sex
Posted: 11/8/2009 11:12:30 AM
MSG 42 :) yes they are.
If I tell you all that your all superior to each other how does that work?
Or all inferior to each other.

Women rule .... at moaning and claiming they are superior!
Dont we apprently live in a patriarchy?
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Are we becoming Androgynous?
Posted: 11/8/2009 10:47:15 AM


A real man is strong
A real man doesn't cry, doesn't moan, doesn't complain, doesn't get sick, and doesn't need to go to the doctor every time he sneezes.
A real man makes decisions and lives with the consequences.
A real man accepts responsibility for his actions and his words.
A real man is firm. If life is a b*tch, a real man will slap it and move on.
A real man is macho; a real man is tough; a real man doesn't show emotions.
A real man is the backbone of his family and doesn't have time to be weak. If spiders scare you, you'll never be a real man.
A real man is focused
A real man knows the difference between what's important and what isn't.
A real man doesn't waste time on stupidities that don't bring him any profit. Sure, there are things you can do as a hobby -- I like to shoot ducks -- but it must have a purpose.
A real man focuses on power, money and family. He doesn't focus on sex. Sex comes as a result of having power, money and a wife.
A real man knows the importance of family
A real man will keep his family strong and pass on his ancestors' history and traditions.
A real man knows that his children are God's gift and should be treated as such, even if he disciplines them from time to time.
A real man doesn't gossip
A real man keeps his mouth shut. He shelters information and rations his words.
A real man does not reveal more than he has to and doesn't engage in girlie talk about others.
A real man doesn't discuss things he doesn't know about or people he has never met.
A real man's word is his bond
When a real man makes a promise, he keeps it. If he can't keep a promise, he doesn't give his word.
A real man would rather die than break his word.
A real man knows that his words are as powerful as his actions, and that they must be taken at face value. That is why he rations them (see above).
A real man strives to be a role model
A real man respects himself and others at all times, unless, of course, he has been disrespected.
A real man sets an example for his disciples, and especially for his children.
A real man sets the tone for his children and keeps them from discovering that he has weaknesses.
A real man makes his own fortune
A real man doesn't settle for handouts or charity when it comes to his personal fortune. A real man isn't satisfied with papa's money. He spits on Lady Luck and decides his own destiny.
A real man who inherits goods from his forefathers takes his inheritance and turns it into 10 times what it was.


Therefore ........

A realwoman is weak
A real woman cries, moans, complains, get sick constantly, goes to the doctor for anything.
A real woman defers on decisions and lives without consequence.
A real woman accepts no responsibility for her actions and her words.
A real woman is doormat. If life is a b*tch, she bends over.
A real woman is unfocused
A real woman focuses on sex. Power and money comes as a result of having sex and a husband.
A real woman gossips

blah blah ... just imagine the rest of that list inverted.
Ummm ...

Not so sure on this, something isnt right. Or is it. Nah. Nevermind.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 59 (view)
 
Brainy women are less likely to marry?
Posted: 11/8/2009 10:31:54 AM
Anyone simply considered they opt to co-habit only instead of marry?
After realising that they may make a loss in divorce?

Its possible, no?

Perhaps some guys are threatened by a smart woman, perhaps some smart women feel a need to impress on the guy how smart they are, perhaps ....

Perhaps some of them are just sexy classy ladies. I like someone that can hold a good conversation. Screw the analysis.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 45 (view)
 
How Many Of You Are Doing This?
Posted: 11/8/2009 6:27:34 AM
Firstly I'd say - perhaps, sometimes these books have value.
Possibly for those that want to study, for others to get an inkling of what for others is common sense and lastly for the author and publisher.

red flags, some are common sense. Some are not. How many of you went out with a complete fruitcake, and now better recognise how to avoid it again?

quirks, 'cute' quirks, and things you love ... well, subjective... here I can see something - if you aint got over the last one(s) you might get over picky. Its a defense mechanism. Live, learn.

Settling? Yea, why settle when you can search for Jesus in the people around you, surely one of them must be perfection itself, complete with sun shining out of the back orifice.
Its not about settling - its about being real. Sure there preferences, not the same as being real, or settling. Not one of them are the same as the other - possible may overlap though.

I don't think of perfection being involved in the equation. I prefer other words. Someone with whom it works well.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Brainy women are less likely to marry?
Posted: 11/6/2009 6:50:20 AM

A study carried out by Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Bristol universities in 2005 found that the likelihood of marriage increased by 35 per cent for men for each 16 point increase in IQ, whereas for women, there was a 40 per cent drop for each 16 point rise, suggesting either that men aren't interested in clever women, or that clever women have no interest in getting married.



"men aren't interested in clever women" = they are not being given options by men

"clever women have no interest in getting married." = well just that, whatever the reason

Im going to assume that success and intelligence are going hand in hand.
Im going to next assume that being intelligent, they will have worked out what sort of men they want ..... And have been unsuccessful at getting them. Maybe theres not that many of them.

Does this mean theres anther thing to add to their possible list?
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 23 (view)
 
She's a rock wall...
Posted: 11/6/2009 6:28:12 AM
Fella I recognise those signs. Get out. This is not the game for you.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 37 (view)
 
should i try to win her back?
Posted: 11/5/2009 1:35:39 PM
If you win her back, I hope her front, arms, legs and head come with it.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 59 (view)
 
Our 15 year long relationship ends and he meets someone on here and starts a family in 9 MONTHS!
Posted: 11/5/2009 1:34:11 PM
Jesus is watching you. Jesus is the name of a rottweiler. Get running until this all behind you, far far behind you. If you don't it will bite you in the azz.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Gold Diggers, or someone of that ilk
Posted: 11/4/2009 5:16:20 PM
"guys STILL don't do as much house work and/or child rearing"
Some/many/lots of guys are all guys? Single male parents, are a myth too, I suppose?
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 149 (view)
 
Do abusers end up alone?
Posted: 11/4/2009 2:42:50 PM
Sqt.Q - since your first assumption was that a man abuses, why should the authorities think differently to you? Or that its only really bad if a man hits, as your words imply? What if she has a weapon and shes in the way of your only escape? What if you have no training? What if in this situation the assumption all men have superior force is wrong? What if the authorities decide to turn up 1hr later?

I just wonder as a person in your position, viewing these additional points, in the realisation that abusers will tend to do things when their abusee is in the weakest position, what would be your wisdom? Simply die, because if they dont you'll get em?


OT:
I think abusers should end up alone, but thats not what they are about. I also think that people should be taught how to identify these behaviours at an earlier age to ensure that they do. If you get out before the emotional abuse and isolation stratagies are completed they usually don't have the guts to do become physical. Not that that helps those in the middle of it atm. I think its not a simple clear cut thing.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Ex girlfriend shows up at work, eggs my house. help?
Posted: 11/4/2009 10:45:50 AM
Yep if women ruled the world ... lmao!
Think carefull you know what they are like, legal threats maybe? Maybe not ... shoose wisely and good luck!
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Who is fooling who ?
Posted: 11/4/2009 10:37:38 AM
Better to be a fool than an idiot. At least fools learn.
Only a sales people and politicians care for how others decide about thier words, all others are sharing them. Think about it.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Time wasting?
Posted: 11/4/2009 10:32:16 AM

you are gonna be disappointed if you think you will find your soul mate on here


Oooo I dunno bout that! I think its a typo ... its possible you might find your sole mate on here ....
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Are we becoming Androgynous?
Posted: 11/4/2009 9:02:32 AM
@ msg 2 - my lil sister at 17 could bench that easy! lol. And no she wasnt a muscle bound freak. Sheer muscle strength determines little than the weight you can shift, and only that. Don't under/over estimate someone just becasue of that. My other, younger sister could punch a (13 stone) guy clean across the room - she couldnt bench that.


OP - evolve or die. Be who you are, not who think others think you should be.
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
How to cause a panic on Wall Street
Posted: 11/3/2009 6:59:16 AM
I wonder that was really behind the financial crisis ......
 gardentree
Joined: 3/20/2009
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Chinese girl...
Posted: 11/3/2009 6:56:46 AM
Tell her you really like a chinese a girl, and that you really want advise - then use it :)
 
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