I think that there is a major guilt trip happening here, and that is why the defensive posture. You know it is wrong, so you go on the attack. You have to justify your actions.

Lil Wayne plays guitar most likely much better than the self described "serious musicians" who have posted on this thread so far in dissent.

Only in the universe where Spock has a beard.

If my buddy tells me he can see auras...he's not running on blind faith...that's his reality...I think it's cool...I feel no need to try and tear his reality down...he could very well have tapped into an ability that 99% of the population haven't developed....

--Eating meat is the number one source of animal cruelty and suffering on the planet.

I don't eat meat. I eat fish.

No I don’t eat meat, It started about 25 years ago, I gradually cut back until about 20 years ago I quit completely. I am still cutting back and am mostly vegan now. I still enjoy the odd Ice cream and I eat some seafood. I don’t miss meat at all

Is HIP HOP
going to go away soon?

thoughts?

Yes, a serious musician would make such a post and it would be accurate.

In Darwinia however, the impossible is not a problem. Just Believe.

Are you saying you instinctively want a harem?

I really think Couture is gonna drop Nogueira...That old man is a beast!

My* dog dreams of catching that damned rabbit!

If I read or hear about an experience from someone who has nothing to sell me...why would I just disregard it as nonsense?

No, I really don't it is why I ask questions...

Florian could have easily complained about the numerous eye pokes he received from Penn when he lost, but said he won't use that as an excuse for his loss. Kenny's vision is STILL blurry, yet he won't grasp for excuses the way Penn does.

Keep applying with the zoo Cyke you'll get the permit to have your harem one day. You might have to move to a more liberal country (aka Sweden) to full enjoy your harem however.

Dreams on the other hand... when your dog is lying down sleeping and then starts whining and moving his legs like he's running... he's having a dream.

The aren't self aware like we are, they don't think like we do, I agree with this.

even vegetables I have read somewhere scream in pain as they are cut or cooked

I think only a fellow Winnipegger could truly appreciate what you are saying.

The steaks we enjoy today may be replaced with delicious & nutricious plates of cooked locusts, crickets, various larvae & other delicacies... Bon appetite.

have we ever been thinking about someone we know real hard and you call that person up and the first thing they say is" OH MY GOD I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT YOU!!!!" It does make one think.

Not in this lifetime.
I'm just another run-of-the-mill meat devouring godless heathen.

One being the fact that humans almost unanimously claim that the torture done in factory farms is not immoral.
I think it can be shown that eating meat is not necessary, it is unhealthy, and hard on the environment, so the only reason left is that it is done for pleasure.

Who says animals have no morality? Animals in the wild have certain rules of conduct and such... A mother caring for her young... Or even my old dog who would let the smaller dog bite him all over without retaliating because he knew that she was no match for him; he would even watch over my brother in law's baby when they came over and made sure the baby didn't get hurt and such.

I think that animals do have morality and can know right from wrong in their own way. I would even dare say that there are more immoral humans than there are immoral animals...

How can you know that? Aren't you making an unproved assertion (better known as an assumption)? Having watched animal behaviour, I have observed some animals display what appears to be "self awareness" & caring. I also know some animals DO dream. As far as aspirations go, I haven't observed that, but can't deny that they might have a sense of it, though really, why would anyone, human or animal aspire to something if they are happy & content?

Unfortunately, all of this is heresay and assumption, and to one degree or another, much of it is false.

If you raised a bunch of humans the same way as you raise pigs in a factory farm, taken from their mother at birth and kept in a pen their entire lives, not given an education, or taught to speak, read, or anything, I believe they would act exactly the same way as pigs in a factory farm. I doubt they would feel sorrow, love, compassion, dreams, etc.

however that last one about not agreeing with killing intelligent animals puts you on a slippery slope. What level of intelligence is the clear dividing line between food and too intelligent for food? Is IQ (or similar measurement) the criterion? Why? If intelligence is the criterion, then you should have no problem with extremely low IQ people (as dumb as many animals you'd consider food) being slaughtered for food because some people find them tasty.

How is that tasty meat tasting right now?

Tell ya' what. How about rather than have PETA wasting its time protesting and throwing paint on people wearing furs and generally looking like a bunch of nutters, why don't they try something a little more practical? How about concentrate on projects that increase and reclaim land for agriculture? How about working on ways of improving crop yields? Reducing crop loss to disease and pests? Then they can reduce the need for meat.

Then you should be OK with soylent green too, or would you prefer the more natural product? There are societies that eat people as a matter of their nature. Are you OK with that? (to be ethically consistent you should be)

I would say that the only way for humanity to survive is if we quit eating meat.

I added a couple to the list for you cyke.

Do the lion think this is wrong?

how many come backs does the guy really need.

You have no idea if God exists or not...

i understand where you are coming from, really i do. Go on believing what you want to believe

In truth some animals and mammals are probably more intelligent than some of the human race.

The new F1 game coming from Codemasters looks pretty good coming mid 2010.

Also Microsoft will now have the title as it had been a Sony exclusive for a while.

prayer is an applied skill ~much like anything else that you've ever attempted to do. That your skills might be lacking and the results difficult to find