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Thread: women hate short men
women hate short men
Posted: 8/6/2012 7:27:00 PM
I have recently realised that I am still young, I have time, and being based in a populated city environment, I always have the chance to meet someone new. There is always a back up plan. For me that is the leg lengthening surgery if all else fails given a set time limit. I just wish that there were more women out there who do not have this strict rule of a man having to be a minimum of 5 feet 9 (preferably over 6 feet). Height is over-rated, especially when there are so many other more valuable attributes to consider in a potential partner.
The number of women who don't care about height is unfortunately on the decrease. At least I myself have stopped hating my own height. I don't think I am short. To me, my height is not a problem, but such realisation does not bring me the results I wish to achieve. I would rather have leg lengthening surgery before I give up on women, and I am not ready to give up, sorry.
It is very important to love oneself as a person and not give oneself a hard time, but of course self-perception counts for shit if the results are not being achieved. I have also stopped hating myself. I look towards the future and I will stand stronger for my principles. I don't have to always prove myself to others. I am entitled to my own decisions without having to make announcements to the world. Some people may not like that, but I have learned that it is their problem not mine. I have found love for myself as a person, but I still have challenges ahead such as finding a girlfriend and job.
The girlfriend is still a priority. At the very least I need to be going on a lot more dates. There are women out there who don't care about height, but it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack whilst taking heavy punches along the way. At least now I accept that and I will do my very best to get out more and meet more women and see how it goes. I am working on a time frame becuase I do not wish to wait forever and I do not wish to paint pink fluffy clouds over a situation that is not moving forward.
I believe that fate has given me the challenge of possibly having to undergo leg lengthening surgery, should luck not come my way. Life is not handed on a silver spoon. Sometimes one has to trust in their own instincts, not bow down to the pressure from others, and stand up for who they believe they are, even if it does involve seemingly crazy, unusual or risky shit. I now know who I am, and nothing is going to change that. Leg lengthening is hardly the easy option, it will require rocky-like determination and mental strength to get through, should I ultimately decide to undergo it.
If I recover successfully from the surgery, I will know once and for all that I can overcome any obstacle in my life. I agree that mircales can happen, so I shall not jump the gun. I shall maintain some patience and see what fortune comes along my way first. Either way, I am open-minded and prepared for my destiny.
women hate short men
Posted: 7/30/2012 5:21:44 AM
Here is the link:
just so you know for reference
I am 166.5 cm tall = between 5 feet 5 (1/2) and 5 feet 5 (3/4)
women hate short men
Posted: 7/30/2012 5:21:01 AM
It is about understanding the balance of what exists in the world around you. To deny that height discrimination does not exist is utterly foolish and delusional. To deny height discrimination is the equivalent to denying sexism, homophobia, racism or anti-semitism. Believe it or not, there is even attractiveness discrimination. Modern society and standards created by the media and so on are further magnifying these problems.
Some of these issues were not as severe back in the 70s for instance. Certainly people are less racist or homophobic today than they used to be, but be warned, height discrimination and attractiveness discrimination is on the increase. Society is placing an increasing amount of pressure on the value of appearance, especially for the younger generation.
Tackling height discrimination has split into 2 camps. There is the national organization of short statured adults (NOSSA) who fully recognise the existence of, and problems caused by height discrimination. They are trying to get society to change its bias against short men in particular (as discrimination is far more prevalent against short men than it is against short women). Basically, they want society to stop discriminating against shorter people. But that is going to be a long and hard battle for decades to come. Look at the evolution of combatting racism, anti-semitism and homophobia as an example.
The other camp is devoted to helping individual men change themselves rather than society. One example is the website "make me taller" where men who have actually undergone leg lengthening surgery have told of their joy of eliminating or reducing any further experiences of height discrimination. Again to deny that this is happening is delusional becuase there are numerous reports of people who have successfully gone through the leg lengthening surgery process. I predict here and now that within 10 - 20 years many more men will be making themselves taller via some form of surgery or procedure. Look at the evolution of breast enhancement surgery as an example.
My happiness as an individual rests on the foundations of achieving certain "keys in life". These keys are 1. being in a loving long-term relationship, 2. having a long-term job and 3. feeling comfortable in the long-term with my appearance. Different strategies and different solutions are required in order to achieve these keys.
The most important key is being in a long-term loving relationship. My reason for that is because even when I was working in long term employment, I was still very much lonely and still very much unhappy. When will people learn that relationships are far more valuable than money? The support and joy from being in a long term-relationship would have a profound positive effect on how I feel about my appearance in addition to my motivation for returning to long-term employment. Therefore I have to look at how I am going to achieve such a goal. I have already proven that having a job alone is not the answer to my problem.
Telling me that being a shorter male has no negative impact on my romantic opportunities whatsoever, that I have just as much of a chance as a taller man is utterly foolish and utterly delusional. The real debate is about accurately measuring the level of that negative impact. You are right, there are short men who find relationships, therefore my problem is entirely psychological. Silly me. But ok then, you tell me why I am single now, and have been for over decade. Don't tell me, bad luck right or perhaps my personality? I have a wonderful personality and I can tell you that many women have told me that they would date me if only I was taller. Well im sorry but my patience has worn away and I am no longer willing to delude myself with pep talks. I want results now. It is like the manager whose football team keeps losing matches but yet he keeps on trying to convince everyone that his team's next match will be the beginning of a successfull winning streak. Once a manager has lost a certain number of games, he gets fired. End of.
My intellectual research and my own experiences with women thus far have lead me to confirm my belief. Some short men are luckier than others and have different experiences depending on who they meet. If I got lucky in my 20s for example and was today in a long term loving relationship, I would have experienced far less height discrimination, because I would not be on the dating market. More importantly I would most likely not be the unhappy person that I am now. Of course there is nothing medically wrong with my height. Most young women are utterly shallow and have unrealistic standards such as expecting a man to be at least 5 feet 9, in order for him to be attractive enough. However, I cannot change what women think.
Therefore there are only 2 ways for me to achieve my particular goal. The first is for me to simply continue to play the numbers game. Keep on meeting women wherever and whenever possible and if I get rejected, I should simply just move on to the next woman. I should forget about my height and let my natural confidence and personality shine through. Surely my luck is bound to come good at some point right?
However, I am a human being and everyone has his or her breaking point. I have already undergone this strategy for many years but with no success whatsoever. Life is not a training montage from Rocky where belief and determination alone will result in the required achievement. Thats hollywood brainwashing. What I have gained is valuable feedback that I would definintely have had numerous romantic opportunities had I been 3-4 inches taller. I would rather die than accept having to go much longer without success. I am already 31, I deserve to be currently in, or at least have been in numerous long-term relationships by now. My life cannot remain in its current situation. I have gone through this too many times. I do not want to be rejected anymore for being under 5 feet 9. Under 6 feet or some other reason other than my height, ok yes thats fine. I am not that greedy. But no more simply for being under 5 feet 9. I am sick to death of it.
Therefore I look to actually becomming taller myself through surgery in order to increase my chances. Despite my instincts to undergo such a strategy, if I really was mentally ill, I would have undergone this surgery years ago. I began contact my orthopaedic surgeon back in 2005. I have been studying and considering this surgery with intelect and with caution during all that time. I have tried to live my life without this surgery for as long as possible. But I simply do not have the strength to rely on my level of luck anymore. I need more luck. To me, it is no different from, for example, trying to apply for a job without the relevant qualifications. Keep telling yourself that eventually you will get that job but all the while you have bills to pay with no salary coming in. Ones chances for certain jobs in the job market are minimal without the relevant qualifications or currency. Adequate height is a currency that I simply do not have.
My conclusion at this point, is that I am going to explore the possibility of having a so-called "mental disorder" simply becuase I have no realistic alternative at this point. I am waiting for a new leg lengthening technology to arrive in 2013. The other reason is also to placate some of my friends or family who oppose my decision for the surgery. Not everyone disagrees. Some of my friends actually support my proposal. My appointment with the mental health professionals is on the 9th of August. The NHS have been useless thus far and have been flaffing about all this time. I am going to ask them to put me on medication as my most realistic chance of effective treatment at this point. It almost does not even matter whether or not I have a mental disorder, if surgery turns out to be only thing that can make me happy, then im going to take that risk. Life is not handed on a silver spoon. Sometimes you have to take risks or do some crazy shit in order to move forward with your life.
Regardless of the outcome of my treatment from the NHS, simply out of curiousity itself, I will be visiting my orthopaedic surgeon in approximately October in order to be fully informed of the advantages and disadvantages of the NEW leg lengthening procedure due in 2013, just to at least understand how it all works if nothing else. Leg lengthing surgery technology is on the increase which is why in 10 - 20 years people won't even be having this debate. Men that feel short will just go and get a height job. I wonder how many people regret having a nose job for instance. One of my friends had a nose job and I can't tell you how much happier she has become with her life as a reult.
That therefore allows, in all probability, one year for the NHS to cure my so called "disorder", or for a miracle to happen where I somehow meet a woman to whom my height is not an issue and with whom I can begin a long term relationship.
If I fail to achieve my relationship goal or remain uncomfortable with my height by that deadline, then I am definintely going ahead with the surgery and if I can't have the surgery, (as I am fearful that one of my friends or my family might try to sabbotage my opportunity "for my own good"), then my reaction will be seek the means to end my life.
I realise that my words sound somewhat distressing, but this is who I am. Take it or leave it. I am being honest and I am being myself and letting you know where things stand.
women hate short men
Posted: 7/19/2012 10:47:39 AM
The reason why i am definintely going to get lengthening surgery this October.
I am 167 cm or 5 feet 5 (3/4) -
I really am having the operation with a top specialist orthopedic surgeon in london. I have been in contact with him for 7 years. I do understand the costs and risks involved but I tried every alternative method such as drugs and counselling to get over my height issue,all of which has failed miserably. Things have got so bad I can't even leave my flat. Surgery is indeed a final solution, but that is becuase there is NO other way for me to be happy. Its surgery or suicide for me. sorry
On a brighter note - I firmly believe that leg lengthening surgery is going to take off world wide and it won't be long before it is performed as routinely as a nose job. I can already name this developing procedure now - height job.
Posted: 7/12/2009 4:16:59 AM
I am 5 ft 5 (3/4) and I will be having 2 operations to lengthen my legs.
The first op will take me to 5 ft 8 and the 2nd to 5 ft 9 (1/2)
99% of women will not fancy a guy shorter than them. That is my belief. Either I accept that or I do something about it. I am doing the operation for my own self esteem rather than to get women. I dont want to be tall. I just hate being short. To me its simply wrong. Its not psychological becuase Ive tried every treatment under the sun and my opinion has not changed in the slightest.
what is the shortest height of man you would ever date
Posted: 6/30/2009 4:44:39 PM
In response to some of your answers. It is truely no joke.
I really am having the operation with a top orthopedic surgeon in london.
I do understand the costs and risks involved but I am seeing one of the best British surgeons so I have faith. Plus I tried every alternative method such as drugs and counselling to get over my height issue. All of which failed miserably. Surgery is indeed a final solution, but that is becuase there is NO other way of being happy.
This I know for certain as I have dealt with it for years.
In fact I am considering 2
The first operation will take me to 5 ft 8
and the 2nd to 5 ft 9 (1/2).
I have chosen to do this for me not necessarily to attract women. Even if I met
a stunning 6 ft model id still want to be taller.
I also wanted to know what women would think if she was in a happy relationship with a 5 ft 9 (1/2) guy but then found out he USED to be 3.5 inches shorter.
Some replies on that question would be great.
Thanks again for all your replies so far.
what is the shortest height of man you would ever date
Posted: 6/30/2009 12:45:49 PM
I am truthfully 5 ft 5 (3/4) but in August I will be having a leg lengthening operation to become 5 ft 9 (1/2). I chose this height because I would be happy with it and it is the tallest possible I could be without my body looking heavily disporportionate.
I am asking 2 questions:
1. What is the shortest height a woman would date becuase I will be able to find out how many women who might be interested in me who never would have before.
2. What would a womans reaction be to finding out that a man she is dating used to be 3.5 inches shorter.
Your answers would help a lot. Thanks. Justin
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