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007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 560 (view)

Love,Quality of life and who pays Posted: 11/21/2009 9:13:19 AM
Well... I supported a man. Ended up losing everything to his bad investments. He managed to talk me out of my all my savings. Supported him, supported his "business" venture. Lost everything, including my good name. He took off...probably to find the next victim... NEVER AGAIN will I spend one minute of time with any man who looks for ANY money from a woman. Consider this little modification and you know why men are bitter. Well... I married a woman. Ended up losing everything to this bad investments. She managed to force me out of my all my savings. Supported her, supported her living standard. Lost everything, including my good name. She took off...probably to find the next victim... Guess which scenario is more common???

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 547 (view)

Love,Quality of life and who pays Posted: 11/20/2009 3:30:22 PM
Do you think because you cut and pasted that it now makes yours a fact? Cuz it doesn't. Your opinion is no more fact than that poster's! S/he said women "are providing for themselves"; you said "This is rarely the case". Do you have proof to back up that statement, since you are calling him/her out for his/hers? PROVE it's a fallacy with some objective figures. On the same token, your rebutal to my claim implies that you have more experience in dating women than me. As such, I will asset that I am more qualified to speak from a factual point of view to this issue that your ability to condem the same. That is of course assuming that you are not dating women.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 1191 (view)

are women playing GOD when they become pregnant Posted: 11/20/2009 3:17:41 PM
Sigh....if you don't want this to happen to you, please use protection. Maybe you missunderstood. The statement did not refer to women who are pregnant and it is most certainly not releted to the use or lack of protection. The statement refers to women who have not achieved pregnancy yet use this litte threat as a mean to punish or catch a man's attentionn (usually occurs at the end of the relationship). The mere existence of such threats or false claim, and I am sure I am not the only man who has heard this song and dance, is a direct reflection of how women understand the power that can be wielded in the name of pregnancy.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 1187 (view)

are women playing GOD when they become pregnant Posted: 11/20/2009 2:18:11 PM
For the women on here: Please help me understand why some slective darlings choose to use the "im pregnant" threat once the relationship has ended or about to end. Maybe im just a feeble mind, but one cant help to feel that some women view the pregancy or even the mere prospect of a pregancy as a lever to excersise power. Any thoughts.

007clone

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Msg: 541 (view)

Love,Quality of life and who pays Posted: 11/20/2009 1:48:34 PM
Most of the women who want a man who is financially stable are usually financially stable themselves, or are living a decent life and providing for themselves. They just want someone who is on their level. Is that so much to ask for? No one wants to carry someone else. The same with men who want a woman who is on their level. I don't see what the problem is here. Interesting fallacy. Lets take a closer look at this statement since it highlights the fundamental problem of rethoric and reality. Most of the women who want a man who is financially stable are usually financially stable themselves, or are living a decent life and providing for themselves. This is rarely the case. However, most women are more than capable of providing for themselves, but not in the social strata they desire. They just want someone who is on their level. Yes, their level or above (preferrable the latter). Is that so much to ask for? Depends on what you bring to the table. The same with men who want a woman who is on their level. I don't see what the problem is here. The problem is simple; women makes on average $.72 for every $1 a man makes. To balance the equation, men more often than not marry or engage in a relationship with women with lesser income as the option to demand or expect a partner of equal is simply not there.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 140 (view)

What's the reward for Chivalry? Posted: 9/20/2009 2:19:02 AM
The reward for chivalry is internal. It is honor If it is such an internal bliss, why do women not extend chivalry to men?

007clone

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Msg: 19 (view)

When Universal Health Care Arrives in the USA, Will Women...? Posted: 8/27/2009 1:29:37 PM
When universal health care arrives, you'll be paying for Octomom to have 14 more kids. This is such an ignorant response to an ignorant question. If people would only set a side a little time to learn about issues instead of following lobbyist influenced messages like sheep we would have a better conversation regarding UHC.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 43 (view)

What would you guys do? Posted: 8/27/2009 1:06:23 PM
OP. You did not angle the question correctly!! You should have taken a page out of the woman's rational book and communicated your dilema as follows: "I feel that my GF is not sensitive to my feelings and that the chemistry is fading because of her selfish actions. I have tried to give her hints but she is trivializing the sincere strain her selfish actions have on our relationship and my devoted love. She is not considerate of the emotional and chemisty connection that I deserve......" See...by spinning your rational as excemplified above you can position yourself as the victim, hence making people sympathetic for your cause as the neglected and violated man you truly are lol!!!

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 540 (view)

Do women cook anymore?? Posted: 8/27/2009 12:51:13 PM
Do women cook anymore?? Nop. So you better learn quick. Just like they need to learn how to swat the spider!

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 11 (view)

What to do when they won't leave? Posted: 8/27/2009 12:44:10 PM
Any thoughts on how to get rid of a construction crew? Stop paying them! That works every time!

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 260 (view)

I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 8/27/2009 12:25:52 PM
Why can't be the creatures in the wild? They have it right and we have it backwards. 1.The males are made colourful to attract the hideously plane jane females 2.They fight for the right to mate then await her approval 3. She let's him hit it and has some babies 4. They live happily ever after until someone gets killed/dies With the exception of the emperor penguins, #4 is untrue. So let me edit #4 to something more applicable to your wildlife analogy. 4. Alpha male continue his conquest with the objective to mate with as many fertile females as possible to assure the survival of his genes. 5. Once female becomes too old to produce offspring, Alpha male moves on to a younger and more viable candidate. I agree that primarily women dictate who they choose to date. However, men often choose whether or not they want to stay once their conquest is completed.

007clone

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Msg: 259 (view)

I think Girls have it a lot easier than Guys when it comes to Love, Dating, Relationships, etc. Posted: 8/27/2009 12:15:33 PM
The reason why is because it's easier for a girl to get a boyfriend than it is for a guy to get a girlfriend. This is very true in OPs age group. The pendlum of that equation swings over to the other side around age 40 though. So OP, give it 20 years and you will be in the driver seat, especially if you make sure to make something of yourself.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 226 (view)

Is this enough to ditch her? Posted: 8/27/2009 12:08:11 PM
I get urges for cheating on her, and its getting uncontrollable now, especially when she's not giving me any. (No she's not getting some herself...). Sure she is. She is most definately getting some on the side but she is good enough to cover her tracks and make you believe that she isnt. Her point is that, she wants to get married and then get down to this. So she is exercising blackmail as well. OP. Trust me, you do not want to travel down this road (or isle).

007clone

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Msg: 116 (view)

If we are all all that why are we alone? Posted: 8/25/2009 11:10:52 PM
If we are all "all that" why are we alone? Because we are not all that! How hard is that to grasp!

007clone

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Msg: 100 (view)

Why does the guy always have to initiate the date and relationship? or at least most of the time? Posted: 8/25/2009 11:06:12 PM
Why does the guy always or most of the time have to make the first move? Because often women are the ones who choose who they want to date. Then it is often the man who choose whether he wants to stay in the relationship.

007clone

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why do young guys chase older women and vice versa? Posted: 8/17/2009 1:18:59 PM
Im curious, i am constantly being messaged by guys fifteen years or more younger than myself and have noticed that guys in my age range tend to go for much younger women........can anyone enlighten me??? Sure. I assume you can handle the truth so here is the no nonsense answers in a nutshell. Younger men chase older women as they are perceived as easy, non committal lays. Older men chase younger women because they are better looking.

007clone

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Msg: 71 (view)

Where are the love-help articles for men?! Posted: 8/17/2009 12:46:16 PM
I'm gettirng tired of all the self-help "looking for love" articles that pop up on these sites advising women on how to understand a man and keep a man. That is because women is gullable enought to trigger impulse buying. Where are these converstations happening for and between men?!! They are not as men will not fall for the emotional sales pitch.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 781 (view)

would you marry for money? Posted: 8/8/2009 6:21:27 AM
would you marry for money? This question is assured to trigger a lot of honest responses....right!!! So lets answer this question from the other side of this equation. Let me assure you POFers that personality and looks improve dramatically in line with percieved wealth!!

007clone

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Msg: 647 (view)

Why do men have affairs? Posted: 8/8/2009 6:11:12 AM
If you're a male, like most other males, you would probably never suspect that your partner is cheating, not only because of your wife’s or girlfriend’s seeming disinterest in sex; but also because you have the belief that your wife or girlfriend is a “good girl.” Unfortunately, males are frequently left/divorced by their wives and girlfriends without ever knowing about their wives' and girlfriends' infidelities. This paragraph is so good and true that it deserves to be mentioned again!!

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 646 (view)

Why do men have affairs? Posted: 8/8/2009 6:07:57 AM
Men cheat as well but it's usually not because they always think the grass is greener. I don't think there's as much life changing thought put into it. They're acting stupid as well but don't have the entitlement mentality that women have Men cheat because the other woman is NOT you. She can be less attractive, have less going for her and be worse in bed and men will still cheat! Why? Because she is NOT you.

007clone

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Msg: 155 (view)

Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags Posted: 7/30/2009 6:08:04 PM
What a great post! I hope more men and women (boys and girls) get to read it... Thanks for caring about all of us gals trying to find the right kind of guy Hardly! This was a self serving troll post from a bitter POFer.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 20 (view)

My girl got pregnant, she dumped me? is this normal? need some advices..thanks Posted: 7/29/2009 2:07:18 PM
we've been together for several months now...i found out that she's pregnant when she did the pregnancy test in front of me... it turned out positive... then months passed we're still doing alright... one day she and her sister fought something...after that day she dumped me...personal reasons she told me... i didnt have a chance to explain my side.. she didnt explain why she dont wanna see me again...she dont wanna talk to me..for some reasons..i dont know why.... You might want to pursue a DNA test there slick. Chances are the baby isn't yours.

007clone

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Msg: 205 (view)

How important is money? Posted: 7/29/2009 2:03:16 PM
Money and more specifically the credit rating is important. There is alot you can learn from a persons credit history in terms of personality type and personal responsibility.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 854 (view)

would you date a stripper? Posted: 7/17/2009 4:38:14 PM
would you date a stripper? NO! They know how to get money, they lack self respect, they understand how to manipulate people, and they can be completely deceptive. Also, they will not quit their job because they "love" you. This is accurate. Then watch how they become born again Christians once their looks and sexuality fade.

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 215 (view)

How important is chivalry in an relationship to you? Posted: 6/27/2009 12:09:43 AM
Seeing such Pavlovian responses to such banal gestures, and the immediate "approval" rating in the eyes of so many women, I have to admit that only a fool would overlook this most effective way of being perceived as gallant and charming. This advice about being chivalrous has been most compelling. I'm always wanting to know just what to do, in order to be more seductive. Thanks for the tips, ladies. Correct. The savy womanizer and/or abuser has already perfected the art of deceptive chivlary to reach their end goal. If it sounds to good to be true, its not.

007clone

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Msg: 204 (view)

How important is chivalry in an relationship to you? Posted: 6/25/2009 11:54:00 PM
chivalrous behavior: considerate and courteous behavior, especially shown by a man toward women The problem with statements like the one above is that it underscores the underlying absence of reciprocity all while highlighting a thinly veiled entitlement expectation.

007clone

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Msg: 133 (view)

can men be trusted Posted: 6/24/2009 2:08:12 PM
This is what happend I was on craigslist I was looking under strictly platonic section. Redflag one! About a month or two ago We met for lunc I even called and told my husband that i was going to lunch with my friend Redflag two! And I am sure you told your husband that is was a male you met on Craigslist. Okay people I am so not interested in this guy except for as friends Sure, and the Iranian election was legit. He says the guy being a guy is after more then just friendship. And your husband is correct! Now yesterday i went to lunch with my friend again Is there a reason you do this even though you know that it upsets your husband for obvious reasons. How would you feel if the roles were reversed?? Im sure you would be singing a different tune!

007clone

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Msg: 81 (view)

Marriages Fatal Flaw Posted: 6/13/2009 3:50:22 PM
This might be an off topic question, but what are the benefits and/or incentives for a MAN to get married in todays society?

007clone

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Msg: 91 (view)

What women really want from a guy Posted: 6/12/2009 11:16:46 PM
I am a great catch! I am looking for a mate not a date. My guess is you would not have the qualities I am looking for and offer a man because your response was not respectful or kind. Don't take it personally. I was just using your listing of qualities to group them and make it easier for men to understand the weights of the 3 primary categories. You see, most MEN are under the illusion that their personality, kindness, good listening skills, chivalry etc are the ways to peek a woman's sincere interest. These are the traits all women say they want, but really don't care about all that much. You see, I am an avid believer in forming opionion on what people DO, not what they SAY. And frankly, the traits that attract a woman to a man are: 1. Money and Power: 50% 2. Looks: 40% 3. Personality: 10%. But don't be upset, men are more shallow than that. All that matters to men is a woman's looks.

007clone

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Msg: 57 (view)

What women really want from a guy Posted: 6/12/2009 8:47:54 AM
Simple. respect kindness fun financial responsibility and stability with some assets eg. home or condo of their own and some cash in the bank-No debt compatibility reasonably fit and healthy knows how to dress appropriately when dating good hygiene not looking for a barbie doll or a twenty-something person well educated Lets break this down so the males on this site understand the value proposition and how these characteristics really rank: 50%: Money and Power. -financial responsibility and stability with some assets eg. home or condo of their own and some cash in the bank-No debt -well educated 40%: Looks. -reasonably fit and healthy -good hygiene 10%: Things women say they look for but can't give a rats a$$ about. -compatibility -knows how to dress appropriately when dating

007Clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 25 (view)

Marriages Fatal Flaw Posted: 6/11/2009 6:50:03 AM
If spousal support were abolished, and custody was always granted to the parent that can provide the best environment for the children, without preferrential treatment being given to either gender, maybe marriage would have a fighting chance. Actually, that would just increase the amount of men filing the papers. What you quoted here are the primary reasons men don't file for divorce (money & custody).

007clone

Joined: 4/14/2009

Msg: 643 (view)

Slept with 83 people Posted: 6/8/2009 12:42:51 PM
Yeah, but wouldn't that make a guy a stud. No. A 26 year old male with 83 partners would be considered a dirty**** Most likely a walking bio-hazard, just like this girl!!

007clone

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Female Serial Cheaters - Strong Personality? Posted: 6/4/2009 11:16:20 PM
1. Would you say these women typically fall under the strong personality category? Domineering, confident, decisive, strong-willed women. (They might have underlying low self-esteem issues, but I'm curious more about how they come across.) Usually the opposite. The quite and reserved ones are the ones with skelettons in their closets. 2. What is their family background? Is there a missing parent? If so, which one? Usually raised by a single mom who has been married and divorced a few times. 3. Are there other patterns or stereotypes to considering when thinking about FEMALE serial cheaters? Sexually abused women tend to be more liberal with sex as they equate sex to love or compassion.

007clone

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Msg: 63 (view)

He is 32 and lives at home? Posted: 6/4/2009 11:01:28 PM
I only got past the first paragraph, too much to read .... but I read enough and all I got to say is.....WHY would he be a loser??? That is so flipping SHALLOW that it's sickening......no different then the other demoralizing, judgmentalists out there who think their own 'shitt' don't stink...... I agree. Some of the women here do not realize that the little precious metal miner is showing up between the lines. Love is irrelevant, what he can provide (or the perception thereof) is of uttmost importance.

007clone

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Msg: 132 (view)

What if you were being tracked by your cell phone? Posted: 6/2/2009 12:44:22 PM
what would you do if this was done to you? I would kick the duche to the curb!!! Is he abusing you? If not, then it is coming soon.

007clone

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He is 32 and lives at home? Posted: 6/2/2009 12:42:18 PM
If not for the fact that he's got no drive for anything, a better job, place to live, etc. he'd be good BF material? And I who thought women only cared about a man's personality. My problem is, I really like this guy So what is your problem?

007clone

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Internet dating: sucks for guys, good for women. Posted: 6/2/2009 12:25:09 PM
Most women dont want a rich man, a super intelligent man, a fancy car, or a "KEN " doll. Good luck believing that. What women say and what they really want are two different things. Just look at all the "nice guys" threads. They would not exist if your thesis held water.

007clone

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Msg: 278 (view)

Can you keep her happy without spending money? Posted: 6/1/2009 1:29:05 PM
Out of curiosity ( and i work in real estate)- are you upside-down on your mortgage (vs. value)? Sometimes people think that there is no equity in their home and don't know the actual value. Do you know the actual value of your home? If not, email me and I can walk you thru free, tangible ways to do so. You can't sell it if it's not on the market. I have suggestions about that as well. What a shameless sales pitch!!!! Listen up here Ms. "Now is a Good Time to Sell or Buy". You don't know the value of the home either. Pulling old comps don't tell you shait about the fundamental value of property. You should have learned that by now as all those folks you put in a home with the "now is a good time to buy" slogan are now getting wiped out! But then and again, that pitch is the difference between you eating lobster or ramen noodles. If you haven't figured it out yet, there is a whole new wave of Repos about to hit the market. Not to mention that 2010 and 2011 is about to mark the largest resets of Alt-A and Option arms ever recorded. You add this to increased unemployment and inflationary pressure and you have your second tsunami hitting the real estate market. What? You think it is over????? So if you feel the needs to council OP on how to improve his financials, tell him to long gold and equities and short the treasury.

007clone

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Msg: 51 (view)

Sex as a weapon (or at least a tool) Posted: 6/1/2009 1:05:35 PM
Wow that must have been a major blow to your ego man. Maybe next time take away something she values or something she holds in high regard. Obviously sex with you isn't one of them! I SECOND THAT

007clone

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Msg: 66 (view)

Online dating doesn't work Posted: 6/1/2009 1:02:43 PM
The best you will most likely get from POF or similar sites is just meeting people and cups of coffee that will seem like an endless series of interviews. Seems like you fail the interview. Are you qualified for the job for which you are applying lol!

007clone

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Msg: 149 (view)

what do men consider overweight? Posted: 6/1/2009 12:54:27 PM
for example, is average/curvy attractive and you draw the line at obese? or do you not prefer average weight women and think thin is most attractive? Healthy is most attractive!! Obese is not healthy, nor is anorexic.

007clone

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Msg: 162 (view)

Why do women want men their own age? Posted: 6/1/2009 12:27:47 PM
Do women really find that much more in common with men their own age? Yes. And stop chasing those 20 year olds. After all, that is the root of your complain.

007clone

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Msg: 28 (view)

Asking your partner about STDS... Posted: 5/29/2009 8:32:16 AM
I wouldn't mind dating someone with an STD if they were open about it from the start. Are you insane!!! STDs and the presence thereof is absolute deal breaker! And yes, you had every right to ask the question. And given his response, they were garanteed an STD (most likely HPV).

007clone

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Msg: 33 (view)

I still dont get it... Posted: 5/29/2009 8:20:47 AM
The simple truth is that he did not want a baby and did not take very kindly to forced fatherhood. This is the reason he pushed you aside as soon as he found out you were pregnant. Birth control works if you actually use it. Human error is the reason it fails. And that would be the simple truth!! OP, to him, your a dream killer!

007clone

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Msg: 236 (view)

At what age do we lower our standards on dating? Posted: 5/28/2009 2:12:52 PM
I know exactly when I lower my standards. It takes me 5-6 drinks in 2 hours. Then, I start lowering my standards. :) Yep. Isn't that just a biatch. Then you have to pull off the Coyote the next day lol!!

007clone

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Msg: 17 (view)

Going out with a cop, a good or bad idea? Posted: 5/28/2009 1:00:49 PM
OP. Most cops have an ego and power issue which translates into relationships.

007clone

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Msg: 165 (view)

Why Must It Always Be the Man Who Make First Contact? Posted: 5/28/2009 12:57:32 PM
OP. I can't emphasis with your dilema or question. Women are plenty agressive these days and won't hesitate to make first contact. As a matter of fact, the more I lay back in bars, the more I get approached.

007clone

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Msg: 233 (view)

At what age do we lower our standards on dating? Posted: 5/28/2009 12:50:48 PM
They aren't some highfalutin demands. That line is often blurred, in particular when once self perception of worth is distorted.

007clone

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Msg: 1382 (view)

Do You Men Read Our Whole Profiles? Posted: 5/28/2009 12:31:40 PM
Do you guys read our whole profiles or just the parts that you want to see. I get emails all of the time from guys that don't seem to have read through mine. Nop. Guys start by looking at the photo. If it is good enough, then they move to phase two which is evaluating whether the photo is representative of your current looks. If it is, then they hit you up with an e-mail. That would be the male profile review process.

007clone

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Msg: 220 (view)

You call this Dating? Posted: 5/28/2009 12:24:56 PM
All these little "rules" are hilarious! And I love the equality double standards that run rampant on this board. Exactemundo! The rules of the game has changed, but most women has yet not gotten with the program.

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