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 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 22 (view)
 
wagon trains, government land, and homesteading
Posted: 11/24/2009 8:17:32 AM
Dreams... not to shatter your illusion; however, I would think that before you offer to give one a science or a math lesson you would learn how to spell and not talk to adults as though they are babies. I am sure the baby talk was meant to get your point across and maybe that works for you down at the playground but here in POF you will find that talking down to people really doesn't help get your point across.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 9 (view)
 
wagon trains, government land, and homesteading
Posted: 11/23/2009 1:40:08 PM
Goodness, I hope that the reason we went to the Moon was about the betterment of all mankind; just as I hope all of our space exploration is. Come to think of it; with 2/3rds of the Earth being underwater... what about investing more of our money to learning how to do more with the Planet we have. Perhaps we should be thinking more about the way we treat this planet and look for ways to clean up the mess we are making before deciding to parcell off new planets.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 399 (view)
 
Gallup Poll
Posted: 11/20/2009 5:32:36 PM
Obama falls below 50 percent in Gallup poll
A symbolic milestone is reached as the president's approval rating drops further
By Alex Koppelman
For the second time this week, a reliable pollster shows President Obama's approval rating falling below 50 percent. On Wednesday, it was Quinnipiac; now, it's Gallup. This new survey will likely prove the more symbolically important of the two, due to Gallup's long history and the weight it's given.

49 percent of respondents in Gallup's poll said they approve of the job Obama's doing, compared to 44 percent who disapprove. According to the pollster, Obama's fall below the 50 percent threshold is the fourth fastest of all the presidents in the post-World War II era. Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton beat him to the mark.

That said, the value of these numbers is mostly symbolic, and if history's any guide, it's likely that he'll be back up over 50 percent soon. But this kind of data has a way of scaring members of Congress who are unsure about whether or not to back the president.

 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 70 (view)
 
Walmart sets its sights on ruling the retail world.
Posted: 11/19/2009 2:40:14 PM
Good article Earthpuppy! As a Public Health professional it is nice to see this information being out out in forums that we normaly wouldn't expect it.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Costco Nixes Coke products over pricing dispute
Posted: 11/17/2009 12:58:57 PM
The Walmart and giant retail stores like them do pose a dilemma for consumers.. on the one hand we want to buy American so that we keep jobs here in the United States and on the other hand we want better deals for our money and many manufactures were price gouging us and brought some of this on themsleves before moving their factories out of the country. The article below represents just such a dilemma. I am kind of torn between supporting a company that provides jobs for Americans such as Coke and thinking that maybe I should not drink coke to show support for retailers that are trying to bring lower prices to consumers. It's a vicious cycle and my worry would be that a boycot of coke would put even more Americans out of work, but for heavens sake it is time that some of these companies think about lowering or at least freezing prices until we are back on our feet to help us help them by buying American.

Costco Nixes Coke products over pricing dispute
Costco nixes Coke products over price dispute, but analysts say negotiating tactic will fizzle

By Emily Fredrix and Sarah Skidmore, AP Food Industry Writers

ATLANTA (AP) -- Costco customers may have to look elsewhere for Coca-Cola products now that the retailer has stopped carrying them because the pair are fighting over prices. The public squabble between one of the nation's largest wholesale club operators and the world's largest soft drink maker is likely to fizzle quickly. But it reveals real tensions as retailers and product makers square off on prices.

As shoppers continue to grapple with the recession, retailers want to win their favor by giving them low prices. But that has been creating tension between product makers like Coca-Cola Co., who are working hard to maintain profit margins while meeting retailer demands.

Typically such negotiations take place behind the scenes, but once in awhile, a public dispute erupts.

"Beneath this surface of harmony, it's a dogfight out there," Gerry Khermouch, editor of Beverage Business Insights, said Tuesday at an investor meeting held by the soft drink maker at its hometown of Atlanta.

Retailers want to wield more power in determining pricing with product makers, who they depend on to stock their customers' favorite brands, Khermouch said.

Costco has been aggressive in putting up signs on store shelves and notices on its Web site.

"Costco is committed to carrying name brand merchandise at the best possible prices. At this time, Coca-Cola has not provided Costco with competitive pricing so that we may pass along the value our members deserve," said a message on the company's Web site labeled "Price Alert!"

A Costco executive confirmed the move Monday but would not discuss the matter further.

The wholesale club operator, based in Issaquah, Wash., is not removing products like Coke and Diet Coke from store shelves, but it does not plan to restock them "until the matter is resolved," according to the message on its site.

Coca-Cola said in a statement late Monday it won't comment on ongoing negotiations but said Costco is an important customer and that it is committed to working with it "in a spirit of fairness."

This dispute is notable given the size and visibility of both companies, said Jim Hertel, managing partner at retail consulting firm Willard Bishop.

"It's not unprecedented, but it doesn't happen every day," Hertel said.

Earlier this year grocer Delhaize SA in Belgium said it would no longer stock at least 250 Unilever products because the food and consumer products maker was making "unprecedented" demands that would force retail prices up 30 percent, the two companies reached an agreement within months.

But the pricing pressure is more intense at Costco, whose business model is designed around offering lower prices than traditional retailers.

Hertel said most likely, the companies will recognize there is a mutual interest and will find a way to resolve it.

"These are complex relationships and hugely valuable," he said.

Who will win? Beverage analysts said don't bet against that famous logo.

"This is not going to bully Coke into changing its pricing strategy," said John Sicher, editor of trade publication Beverage Insights. "I think Coke is going to basically be focused on the right price and right market for its products, no matter what."
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 269 (view)
 
Men love naked women
Posted: 11/17/2009 11:13:35 AM
hmmmm the imperfections in a woman's body do not really have to make her less desireable or less beautiful to look at naked. There really are few things as gorgoues or as worthy of exploration as the naked body of the woman that you care deeply about despite any imperfections.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Why do people lie?
Posted: 11/17/2009 11:09:44 AM
I think a more fair question is why do people get taken in by people with practiced well rehearsed lines? You may want to consider that for some of the smooth talkers that both men and women seem to naturaly warm up to because they are "outgoing" or "fun", are that way because they have polished their act up by doing the same thing over and over again through the years to get what they want. Maybe take a second look at that guy or girl who is painfuly shy or awkward when they approach you and realise that they are that way because they havn't practiced those lines on a dozen men or women before you.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
most popular mixed race relationships
Posted: 11/11/2009 12:28:52 PM
Not so sure that I would agree with you. I also think that white men dating black women is becoming very prevelant. Then again so is hispanic men and women with both black and white men and women.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Is sex a chore to him?
Posted: 11/11/2009 11:36:27 AM
Kit, believe it or not stress has a huge impact on a mans ability to concentrate and perform sexually. I know that you guys have discussed it but maybe just be a little patient and try and help reduce the stress level. If he is kind and considerate 98% of the time, I am sure it is not that you don't satisfy him.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Do Men Like Hearing There Name Said In Bed
Posted: 11/11/2009 11:32:05 AM
Of course we like knowing that at the moment of cumming we are the one you are enraptured with.....
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 344 (view)
 
Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 11/11/2009 5:56:19 AM
It does look like much of the Country still clings to the hope that the President can turn things around and that he is popular; however, there is a growing sense that we are moving in the wrong direction and it's hard to tell people who are unemployed and suffering that they just have to be patient while we are bailing out banks and corporations. The article below, I thought does a good job of presenting a balanced look at the difficulties we are facing.


AP National Political Writer Liz Sidoti, Ap National Political Writer – 7 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama still has the approval of a majority of Americans, but it's an increasingly pessimistic nation.

The public grew slightly more dispirited on a range of matters over the past month, including war and the economy, continuing the slippage that has occurred since Obama took office, the latest Associated Press-GfK poll shows.

This comes at a time when he is trying to revive the struggling economy, considering sending more troops to the 8-year-old Afghanistan war, muscling a health care reform overhaul through Congress and hoping to push through other ambitious measures like legislation focused on climate change.

People were gloomier about the direction of the country than in October. They disapproved of Obama's handling of the economy a bit more than before. And, perhaps most striking for the commander in chief, more people have lost confidence in Obama on Iraq and Afghanistan over the last month. Overall, there's a malaise about the state of the nation.

"It's in pretty bad shape," said truck driver Floyd Hacker of Granby, Mo., a Democrat who voted for Obama. "He sounded like somebody who could make things happen. I still think he can."

Still, Hacker said, he questions the president's approach to the economy, what the U.S. is trying to accomplish in Afghanistan and Obama's focus on health care, adding, "He can't handle everything at one time."

Public attitudes like that are troubling for a president trying to accomplish an ambitious agenda at home while fighting wars abroad, as well as for a Democratic Party heading into a critical election year. It will have to stave off losses that a new president typically experiences in his first midterm elections. A third of the Senate, all of the House and most governors' offices will be on the ballot.

The findings underscore just how quickly the political environment can change, a lesson for out-of-power Republicans who are buzzing with energy after booting Democrats from rule in Virginia and New Jersey governors' races last week.

It was just over a year ago that Obama won the White House in an electoral landslide and Democrats padded their congressional majorities. The country was riding high with optimism by just about all measures when Obama took office in January.

Hope and change were in vogue back then. But change didn't happen overnight, as the rhetoric of campaigning crashed headlong into the realities of governing. And hope slipped in a country that always has clung to it.

Now, Obama's approval rating stands at 54 percent, roughly the same as in October but very different from the enthusiastic 74 percent in January just before he took office. And some 56 percent of people say the country is heading in the wrong direction, an uptick from 51 percent last month and 49 percent in Obama's first month as president.

The economy is by far the most important issue on Americans' minds. Unemployment hit 10.2 percent last month even though the administration has promoted glimmers of improvement and many economists say the recession is over.

Those jobless figures help explain why as many people said the economy got worse in the past month as said it got better — and it's not many people who thought it got better, just 22 percent. Most say the economy stayed the same, and just 46 percent approve of how Obama is handling the economy, compared with 50 percent last month.

"He did good on getting Wall Street up and running. But I'm not going," said independent Jay Huffaker, 33, of Knoxville, Tenn., a construction worker who has been unemployed for a year and a half. The country is in terrible shape, he said, adding, "It seems like it's getting worse and worse and worse and worse."

The nation also has grown more lukewarm on Obama and the wars as he tries to wind down the one in Iraq and considers ramping up the one in Afghanistan.

Compared with October, 45 percent of people now disapprove of Obama's handling of Iraq, up from 37 percent; while 48 percent now disapprove of his handling of Afghanistan, up from 41 percent. A majority of Americans oppose both wars. And more than half — 54 percent — now oppose sending more troops to Afghanistan, an increase from 50 percent last month.

"We either need to do something to win the wars, or just come home," said Republican Heather Johannessen, a stay-at-home mom in the suburbs of Minnesota's Twin Cities, who thinks the U.S. is in a holding pattern in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

On health care, about half of the country approves of how Obama is doing on his signature domestic issue — virtually unchanged from October. In a major victory for Obama, the House passed a sweeping overhaul of the U.S. medical system over the weekend. But the fate of the measure is uncertain in the Senate, where moderate Democrats who are necessary for passage are balking at the cost and various provisions.

Only a third of the country approves of how Congress is doing.

The AP-GfK Poll was conducted Nov. 5-9 by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Media. It involved landline and cell phone interviews with 1,006 adults nationwide and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Upstate NY congressional seat battle
Posted: 11/2/2009 2:00:35 PM
"So is it good that the GOP seems to be killing off their own moderates to, um, "purify" their brand? Any thoughts about this race and its significance? Thoughts about long term consequences? Predictions on Tuesday's race? "

It really has been a long time coming in truth the two parties are so far apart that a party made up of Moderates really is what we need. Maybe one day we will get one if the two party system that seems to have a lock on our politics doeasn't smother and kill it off like it has all recent attempts at 3rd parties.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 117 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 11/1/2009 3:13:23 PM
"I am convinced that whenever we exaggerate or demonize, oversimplify or overstate our case, we lose. For it is the predictability of our current political debate, that keeps us from finding new ways to meet the challenges we face. It is what keeps us locked in "either/or" thinking: the notion that we can only have big government or no government; the assumption that we must either tolerate 46 million uninsured or embrace "socialized medicine."

It is such partisanship that have turned Americans off. What is needed is a broad majority who are re-engaged and who see their own self-interest as inextricably linked to the interest of others. "

Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p. 39-40 Oct 1, 2006

Now those are great words and the reason that I voted for President Obama, what I want now is to see these words actually put into practice by all of us. And that my friend will be my last word in this post because it has already lasted too long and life is too short to argue for the sake of arguing which is all any of us are really doing here because it isn't going to change a thing as long as we are so divided.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 115 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 11/1/2009 2:04:50 PM
"You want to do something for the common good ... tell these people about what it's like for your fellow vets to be discarded by the VA and not even given a dime to live on even though they are so disabled there is no way they can work and then they get told by the likes of some of these people in here that they are just lazy good-for-nothings and that if they would just get off their butts they too could have insurance."

Why do so many people feel the need to use us to make their points? The truth of the matter is that I will never get rich from the VA payment that I get for my disabilities; however, I wouldn't say that the 1500+ a month that I recieve is " not being given a dime". It did mean that I have to get another job when I retired because, although I also get a retirement check and a disability check, it isn't enough to be totaly comfortable but then again, I never expected it to be.

Luckily, I did get another job and even though it didn't come fast enough to save my house; I do know that I am at least in position to recover eventually as long as I am able to continue working. By the way, I got that other job based on the fact that I took advantage of every free minute that I had over my 27 year military career and earned 4 diffrent degrees while in the Military to prepare for the day when I no longer would be. They paid for that also...

Long and short of it is that while I didn't get rich from serving my country I feel that I made a good life for myself and that despite some temporary setbacks I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and I refuse to be bitter and let those setbacks make me hateful and divisive.

[I live in a combat zone. I'm the one who's out there taking care of all the casualties of that war.]
Are you really comparing what you do to me being in a combat zone? I won't even dignify that statement with a response.




I also find your comment that you "quote what you want to quote" in order to "prove your point" to say more than I can ever say about those that spew hate and divisiveness in their attempt to negate meaningful change. Why didn't you comment on the quote from the President?
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 112 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:57:22 PM
"I guess you just weren't in the right place at the right time. I was one of the people that was asked to spy on my fellow Americans ... and when I refused, they threatened to take away my job. So don't come in here and tell me it did not get this bad, because I know differently.

We were often referred to as "treasonous traitors". "

I am going to throw the "BS Flag" on the above statement just like I threw it in another post when you said that those of us who where going to vote or supported President Obama and served in the Military were being shot by our fellow soldiers on the battle field.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 110 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:44:24 PM
Cotter...

What business do you have putting my profile on a post to further your own agenda? Do you honestly feel that it is your right to say and post whatever you want no matter what and no matter who you step on? Wait, what am I saying? It is your right to say what you want in a public forum; many of my friends made sure that you have that right. I will acknowledge your right to do so; although you seem to feel that if others say what is on their minds and don't agree with you that they are enemies of America.

I am sorry if the fact that I don't choose to wallow in misery and cry "oh woh is me" upsets you. Does it really bother you that much that I choose to try and have a more positive outlook on life despite whatever troubles I may or may not be going through?
That I feel we really can reach common ground and unite as a Country for the better good? It's funny to me that my outlook bothers you so much since you claim to be such a loyal supporter of the President and much of my current philosophy was developed reading The Audacity of Hope awhile back in a FOB in Aghanistan. Does the following seem familiar to you?

" [During the early part of my US Senate race], no blinding insights emerged from months of conversation. What struck me was how much of what they believed seemed to hold constant across race, region, religion, and class.
I told them that government couldn't solve all their problems. But with a slight change in priorities we could make sure every child had a decent shot at life and meet the challenges we faced as a nation. This book grows directly out of those conversations on the campaign trail. The ideals at the core of the American experience, and the values that bind us together despite our differences, remain alive in the hearts and minds of most Americans. The topic of this book is how we might begin the process of changing our politics and our civic life. I don't know exactly how to do it. But I offer personal reflections on those values and ideals that have led me to public life, and myown best assessment of the ways we can ground our politics in the notion of a common good.

Little clue for you, spend much of the last 8 years of your life in and out of combat zones like I have and you will learn to enjoy what you can in life and spend less time insulting others for your own enjoyment. You will also have much less tolerance and more distain for those who spew hate and divisiveness that leads to conflict and come to the conclusion that only by finding ways to further the common good and unity can we really make a diffrence.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 106 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 11/1/2009 11:53:15 AM
Cotter, while I agree with many of the things that you say.. specificaly that all Americans deserve healthcare without going to the poor house. You lose ALL credability when you say that those who do not agree with you or your viewpoints are enemies of America. None of us have been appointed as the person who gets to decide who is and isn't an enemy of America and just because you say it enough times doesn't make it so.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 103 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 11/1/2009 11:31:49 AM
"From where I sit, taking my family into consideration, things just aren't that rosy and whether you like it or not, the Republicans really do look like the "enemy of America" right now.

I know you mean well by coming in here and posting the "Pollyanna" stuff, but could you at least make it a little more realistic? "

I retired from the military after 27 years last year and my house will be auctioned off by the Mortgage Company on the 4th of November so believe me, from where I sit things aren't so rosy either Cotter. Again, all this hate spewing and disruptiveness isn't doing a thing to help out me, you, or any other person in this country except those that want us so busy divided and fighting amongst ourselves that we don't have the inclanation to sit down and make some basic fixes to making this a better place for all of us.

My "Pollyanna Stuff" believe it or not is the way that we need to approach fixing things because otherwise anything that is put in place by one party will be easier to be overturned when the other party takes power..which sooner or later they will. Until we stop thinking as Republicans or Democrats and start acting as Americans there will be no lasting change except for those that none of us wants.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Third party aka Independent
Posted: 11/1/2009 7:54:22 AM
Third party challenges in NJ, NY are warning sign


NEW YORK – Third party candidates are shaking up two major races in elections Tuesday, and the success of those candidacies is a warning shot fired at both major parties by voters angry at government and disillusioned by politics as usual.

In New York's 23rd Congressional district, where longtime Republican Rep. John McHugh stepped down to be Army secretary, Dede Scozzafava, the candidate chosen by state GOP leaders to replace him, was forced out of the race by a surging Conservative Party candidate, Doug Hoffman. High-profile national Republicans endorsed Hoffman, saying Scozzafava, a state assemblywoman who supports abortion rights and gay marriage, had abandoned core GOP values.

In the New Jersey governor's race, independent Chris Daggett has gone from afterthought to player in a contest pitting the unpopular incumbent, Democrat Jon Corzine, against Republican Chris Christie.

Daggett is not expected to win the New Jersey contest, and the GOP split in upstate New York could throw the race to Democrat Bill Owens.

But the impact of those candidacies on the high-profile contests points to an anti-incumbent, anti-establishment sentiment that could be a prevailing theme in the 2010 congressional elections and beyond.

"What it says is the public is looking for less self-interested parties and candidates who can reflect the needs of a very frustrated public," said Douglas Astolfi, a history professor at Florida's St. Leo University. "We have two wars and we're in a recession that neither party seems to address in any positive way. There's a deep sense that government has abandoned the common man. People are frustrated and angry."

Indeed, a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll released last week found that trust in government is at a 12-year low, and half of all Americans now support the creation of a new political party.

Both parties ignore such sentiment at their peril in 2010 and perhaps into the 2012 presidential race.

In Senate contests from Florida and Kentucky to New Hampshire next year, conservatives furious at the Republican establishment are mounting primary challenges against more mainstream candidates favored by the national party.

On the other side, Democratic strategists worry that progressives, disgusted by the big money bank bailout and disillusioned with President Barack Obama's lack of fight on issues such as a government-run health insurance plan, might keep some people from voting. That could cost Democrats seats up and down the ballot.

Political operatives are keeping an eye on independent voters — an important and growing group that often decides elections. Will these voters send a signal to politicians Tuesday as well or will they stay home and leave it to the more ideologically driven base voters in both parties?

That was the case in the New York race, where polling found Scozzafava had fallen well behind her Hoffman and Owens, making it essentially a two-man contest days ago.

Sensing opportunity, ambitious conservatives across the country have jumped on the Hoffman bandwagon. The most prominent is Sarah Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee and a potential high-profile contender for the White House in 2012.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, also looking at 2012, has announced his support for Hoffman. So has Chuck DeVore, a conservative California assemblyman hoping to run in a U.S. Senate primary against Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett Packard executive backed by national Republicans to take on the Democratic incumbent, Barbara Boxer.

Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich had endorsed Scozzafava, drawing the enmity of conservative bloggers scoffing at the possibility of a Gingrich presidential run in 2012.

Hoffman's rise infuriated leaders of New York's Republican Party, who insisted Scozzafava was a good fit for the district which favored Obama last year, but is one of the few still held by Republicans in the Northeast.

In New Jersey, Daggett, a businessman and former Environmental Protection Agency official, has appealed to voters who are turned off by both Corzine and Christie and fed up with the candidates' campaign bloodbath. Daggett was widely believed to be the winner of a televised candidate debate and has been endorsed by The Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J., the state's largest newspaper.

John Weingart, associate director of Rutgers University's Eagleton Institute of Politics, said Daggett's candidacy had succeeded in giving disillusioned voters a competent and credible alternative to Corzine and Christie.

But Weingart said lack of money, the institutional obstacles to a third party candidacy and a growing awareness among voters of the ideological differences between Christie and Corzine would cause Daggett's campaign to stall.

"To vote for an independent candidate, you have to believe either that the person can win or that there is no difference you care about between the Democratic and the Republican candidate," Weingart said.

A Quinnipiac Poll released Wednesday found Corzine ahead of Christie by a 43-38 percent margin with 13 percent for Daggett and 5 percent undecided. But a majority of voters said they had an unfavorable view of both Corzine and Christie.

In the 1992 presidential race, money wasn't an issue for billionaire businessman Ross Perot, whose rise was powered by the same kind of populist anger brewing today. Perot vastly altered the dynamic of that contest, running as an independent and winning 19 percent of the vote.

Democrat Bill Clinton was the beneficiary of that three-way contest, taking away the presidency from George H.W. Bush with just a plurality of the vote. Clinton did so in part by adding a populist flair to his message, drawing voters who had been attracted to Perot.

Detachment from the major parties some of the success of New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, another billionaire who appealed to a city craving for competence in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.,

Bloomberg, who ran as a Republican that year, announced in 2007 that he would switch parties and become and independent, leading to speculation he would run for president at some point. Bloomberg is expected to cruise to a third term on Election Day.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Is It Time to Secede Yet?
Posted: 11/1/2009 4:43:19 AM
"Is It Time to Secede Yet?

Yes! Yes we should! "

So who is going where? What happens in California after the seccession? For instance do the blue parts of the state get to secede from the red part? How about New York? How about the south? She is blue but many of her citizens may classify themselves as red.. are they forced into relocation camps?

Get real we are all in this together and only together can we come through it and remain a truely great nation....
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 96 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 11/1/2009 4:37:25 AM
The enemies of America are those who would stifle opposition and debate from any of her citizens. Only through inclusion, regardless of political ideology, good honest debate and compromise can we ensure that we have a nation and a government that provides for the common defense and promotes the general welfare while ensuring that all her citizens are able to enjoy life, libery, and the pursuit of happiness.

Calling those that disagree with us based on political ideology "enemies of America' is counterproductive and only stirs up hate and animosity while ensuring that we are so polarised and divided as a nation that we can't see the forest for the trees and finaly take steps TOGETHER to achieve what we all really want which is the ability to enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Is It Time to Secede Yet?
Posted: 11/1/2009 3:40:44 AM
Goodness, sure we have our problems as a nation but then again who doesn't? We have been a great nation because we disagree and have a diverse population with differing points of view. We have simply lost our way in the past few years and seem to have problems coming together in the spirit of compromise to enact laws and policies that reflect the common good.

I sometimes wonder if it is our need to "win at any cost" and "be the best" at everything that makes us look at our leaders and feel that they are weak when they compromise on legislation. This lack of real political debate (not argument or one party dominating the other and pushing their agenda down their throats) and the lost ability to compromise both among the voters and in Washington is what has us off track and polarised.

Is it time to secede? Not on your life!! It is time to regain your pride in being Americans and hold your heads up high. To take positive steps to keeping this the great country she has always been by restoring America as the beacon of light that she once was to the world. The country that had millions of people over the last 200+ years give up EVERYTHING they had just for a chance to reach your shores and make a better life for themselves and their families. I know, my family did it. My mother brought 4 kids to this country 36 years ago and changed my life for the better forever and it pains me that you guys can no longer see that this is still a great county with great people of all races and cultures.

The diverse races and cultures whether in blue or red states are essential to OUR future, in fact I think if you look a little harder you will find we are not really as red or blue inside as we all appear on the outside we have red hearts and blue arms and legs and we all want the same things in the end. We just need to talk to each other and compromise together to get those things.
 Templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 1 (view)
 
No trick: 2,000 kids knock on White House door
Posted: 11/1/2009 3:22:59 AM
Can we all put our political diffrences aside for a moment and whether or not we agree with the Presidents policies and directions agree that this was an extremly classy and well done show of support both to to our military families and to some of our nations kids ? As a recently retired military member, I for one would like to say "Bravo Zulu" Mr. President and thank you for taking time to celebrate with those families and kids. I am certain you provided them with a moment that they will treasure and reflect on for the rest of their lives.

By CHRISTINE SIMMONS, Associated Press Writer Christine Simmons, Associated Press Writer – Sun Nov 1, 12:22 am ET
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama on Saturday doled out presidential M&Ms and dried fruit mixes to more than 2,000 trick-or-treaters, marking their Halloween at a White House event partly aimed at honoring military families.

Dressed as superheroes, pirates, fairies and skeletons, the kids came in with their parents from Maryland, Virginia and Washington D.C., and lined up on the orange-lit White House driveway.

Standing outside the White House front door, the Obamas smiled, chatted and passed out cellophane goody bags that were also filled with a sweet dough butter cookie made by White House pastry chef Bill Yosses. Kids also received a National Park Foundation Ranger activity book.

Mrs. Obama wore furry cat ears and a leopard-patterned top. Obama said the kids looked adorable, as well as his wife, "a very nice looking Catwoman."

A big, stuffed, black spider dangled in a web of string from the top of the portico, and pumpkins had sprouted up around the columns.

Meanwhile, an odd cast of figures wondered around the North Lawn, including skeletons playing musical instruments, walking trees and "Star Wars" characters. The night's arrangements took a month or two to prepare, the White House said.

The loot handed out was just part of the treat for the visiting kids, who were chosen with help from the Education Department.

"He touched my hand," said a beaming Tiera Thomas, 11, of Washington, D.C., after she picked up her candy from President Obama.

The Obamas spent about a half hour passing out candy to trick-or-treaters, ages 6 to 14.

Then they headed inside to the East Room, where the first couple attended a reception for military families and for the moms and dads who work at the White House, along with their kids.

Obama thanked the military members and their families. "We are so grateful to you," he said. "Especially now, a lot of the times, you guys are separated. It's tough. The spouses who are at home are serving just as much as folks who are deployed. So we are just so thrilled that you guys could be here."

The president, dressed in casual clothes, was one of the few not in costume. Even Obama's press secretary, Robert Gibbs, was dressed as Darth Vader, the "Star Wars" villain.

It was also the first White House Halloween for the Obamas' daughters, 8-year-old Sasha and 11-year-old Malia.

But the White House would not say what Sasha and Malia were wearing, even though hundreds of other children their ages were in costume in full view of the media. The White House referred back to the first lady's comment to Jay Leno, that finding out what Sasha and Malia were wearing would require "security clearance."

Over the years, the winter holidays have been the ones to get the full treatment at the White House, with Christmas trees and tinsel all around.

The Obamas are not the first, though, to show Halloween spirit.

President George H.W. Bush and first lady Barbara Bush hosted 500 children on Halloween in 1989, loading them up with fun loot but also teaching them about the dangers of drugs. The kids came decked out in costumes; some Secret Service agents came dressed as clowns.

In the Clintons' first year in the White House, the Great Pumpkin returned. A huge orange jack-o'-lantern was formed around the front entrance to the White House, with the front door to the mansion serving as the middle tooth. The first couple's daughter, Chelsea, was 13 at the time and the house was stuffed with pumpkins
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 36 (view)
 
Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home?
Posted: 10/31/2009 1:56:58 PM
As I see it, both sides here are being infantile and the hate that spews out from the majority of the posters on some of the postings right now are shocking and shameful. You are using the protection of being online to say things to and about people that most of us would never ever say to another human being in real life.

We negate the moral high ground when we stoop to using these types of tactics and treat each other as less than human. Using words such as DEMOCRAPS and REPUGNICANS is as deplorable as questioning each others patriotism and humanity.

Patriotism and humanity do not belong to one party over the other and most people, Democrat and Republican, just want what they think is best for the majority.. we simply disagree on what is best and how to go about providing it.

As long as we are so filled with hate that we can't come to the table and provide for the common welfare through meaningful dialogue and compromise that leads to lasting change and improvement NOTHING will get better.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Ethics panel scrutinizing dozens of House members
Posted: 10/31/2009 5:25:54 AM
At what point do we treat politicians who are taking bribes and selling their votes the same way that we do anyone else who robs and steals? Don't we deserve to have government free of corruption? I don't think we are going to get one until law makers are shown that they are not above the law themselves.

Larry Margasak, Associated Press Writer – Fri Oct 30, 10:24 pm ET
WASHINGTON – Dozens of lawmakers have drawn scrutiny from their ethics monitor this year for everything from financial dealings to travel and campaign donations, according to a leaked account showing an active House panel secretly at work.

Seven of the lawmakers — four not previously known — serve on a defense appropriations subcommittee that divvies up money for Pentagon contractors.

Most of the names and investigative subjects, mentioned in a summary of the ethics committee's work last July, were known. But the summary — obtained by The Washington Post — shows the widespread scope of preliminary reviews and investigations the panel can have before it at any one time.

If anything, the document rebuts arguments of some watchdog groups that members of the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct — the ethics committee — do little to investigate their colleagues.

The document shows the scrutiny involved some 30 members last summer, but it lumps together lawmakers who are subjects of a complete investigation with subpoena powers with those who may simply have asked for a ruling on a proposed trip to be financed by a private sponsor. Full investigations by an investigative subcommittee are announced publicly.

Committee Chairman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., and ranking Republican Jo Bonner of Alabama, went further than usual on June 11 by announcing they were examining the conduct of some lawmakers on the defense panel even though no investigative panel was formed.

Members of the House Appropriations Committee's defense subcommittee had steered targeted appropriations called earmarks to clients of a now-defunct lobbying firm — PMA — and received contributions from the firm and its clients.

The names of defense subcommittee chairman John Murtha, D-Pa., and Democratic members Jim Moran of Virginia and Peter Visclosky of Indiana had previously surfaced in connection with the inquiry.

The document adds the names of Norm****, D-Wash.; Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio; ranking subcommittee Republican C.W. Bill Young of Florida and Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan.

All four have received campaign contributions from PMA's political action committee and employees. Donation figures compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics show that:

_PMA's PAC and employees together were the single biggest source of political money to**** in each election cycle from 2003 through 2008 when donations are analyzed by the givers' employers.**** received roughly $89,500 from them during that period.

_The lobbying firm's PAC and staff also were Kaptur's top single source of donations by employer during the 2008 election cycle. Collectively, they gave her about $28,500 for the last election and $12,500 for the 2006 election, a total of about $41,000. They gave her nothing in 2003-04.

_Tiahrt raised roughly $19,750 from PMA's PAC and employees from 2003 through 2008.

_Young collected about $9,250 from the 2003-04 election cycle through last year.

The Pentagon budget panel had such an allure for Kaptur — who represents a Toledo-anchored Rust Belt district — that in 2005 she gave up her party's top seat on the agriculture subcommittee to claim a rare open seat on Murtha's subcommittee. She would have become one of a dozen Appropriations subcommittee chairmen had she stayed put.

A spokesman for Kaptur, Steve Fought, said she expected to be cleared.

"The congresswoman has always emphasized openness and transparency, and it almost goes without saying she will continue to cooperate," he said. "She's saying there was no quid pro quo."

Dicks said, "I can assure you that I have always conducted myself appropriately and in accordance with all applicable House rules and statutes. I am confident that all of my actions as a member of the House have been appropriate, and I expect that when all the inquiries are concluded, I will be completely exonerated."

Tiahrt said he has no reason to believe he's under investigation by the ethics committee.

"Projects I submit that are approved by both the Appropriations Committee and the full House are made available online with my name appearing next to the initiative," he said. "I also routinely issue press releases for these funding requests because I'm proud to fight for worthy projects that help protect our troops serving overseas and that create thousands of direct, high-quality Kansas jobs."

The document was leaked to The Washington Post after a junior ethics staff member saved it on the hard drive of a home computer. The staff member, who had information sharing software, didn't realize that someone could download the file but was subsequently fired anyway.

A House staff member, speaking anonymously because he was not authorized to discuss the matter, said the committee employee's actions were inadvertent but violated House rules requiring the safeguarding of official documents.

The Recording Industry Association of America said the disclosure was evidence of a need for controls on peer-to-peer software to block the improper or illegal exchange of music. Some lawmakers have tried for years to bring this about.

Mitch Bainwol, the group's chairman and chief executive officer, said, "It's now happening (in) Congress' backyard, and that should be a powerful catalyst to enact real reforms to protect consumers."

The most prominent lawmaker under investigation, House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., has been interviewed about his personal finances, the document showed.

However, it revealed less than the committee's public announcements about the ever-expanding investigation of Rangel's travel, financial deals, fundraising and financial disclosures.

Earlier this month, the committee announced it authorized nearly 150 subpoenas in the Rangel investigation, interviewed 34 witnesses, produced 2,100 pages of transcripts, reviewed and analyzed more than 12,000 pages of documents and held more than 30 meetings.

The Justice Department often asks the committee to suspend its work when prosecutors are looking at the same allegations. The document said this occurred in the case of Rep. Alan Mollohan, D-W.Va., whose finances came under scrutiny some three years ago.

"As I have said a number of times in the past, I do not know whether any investigation is ongoing or not. I have not been contacted," Mollohan said.

Subpoenas were authorized to the Justice Department and National Security Agency for intercepted communications in an inquiry involving Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif. News stories have reported she was heard in a 2005 conversation agreeing to a request to seek lenient treatment for two pro-Israel lobbyists accused of illegally disclosing national defense secrets.

Charges were dismissed against the lobbyists at the request of prosecutors.

Harman has denied she had contacted anyone seeking favorable treatment for the lobbyists, and she has asked the Justice Department to release any transcripts of her recorded conversations
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Mature Adults in their Sexual Prime ??!!!
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:12:51 PM
I don't know about 50 yet, but at 46 my sex life is great and enjoyable. I will also say that sex with a woman in her 30's and 40's is fantastic as women seem to be losing their inhibitions and getting more comfortable with their sexuality and bodies as they age.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 322 (view)
 
My body,My choice!
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:04:10 PM
They did "NOT" get really sick. They had the normal reaction to their body creating antibodies to ensure that it would be able to fight off a severe illness when they are exposed in the future. Also 97% is a pretty hard number to swallow especially with the "really sick" if 97% of the population recieving flow shots got really sick within 48 hours the country would shut down and it would be a lot more noticable than someone claiming that 97% got sick on POF.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 90 (view)
 
Troops support Obama by 6 to 1
Posted: 10/29/2009 1:52:19 PM
"My daughter was in the military and told me how much leverage that voter registration was worth.

I have the impression that it's no different in our own military. From what my daughter tells me ... the best way to go is to register as an "Independent" ... that way, they can't get you for anything but wanting to vote. She should know ... she was an officer ... Weapons Intelligence and served in the Middle East.

While the "Shrub" was in office, troops who did not support him had to keep it quiet or risk being chastised and mistreated ... even death. If in any kind of war zone, they still have to be very careful to voice support for OBAMA because it's so much easier for their fellow troops just to shoot them and claim "friendly fire".

My daughter told me that if you value your life, you just don't say anything about supporting OBAMA. She also said they stop at nothing to check up on you so she never wrote anything down in emails and never spoke about it on the phone either.

She told us how she felt in person before leaving and told us if she died under any kind of suspicious circumstances that we needed to pursue it ... most likely it would be political.

I think it's sad that our service personnel have to have that on their minds as they go into life-threatening situations. So they are supposedly fighting for others to have freedom of speech and they don't have it. To speak their minds would risk death at the hands of their fellow service personnel.

That's why the support for OBAMA is probably much higher than we'll ever know. They just can't safely show or speak their support."

I just retired from the Military after 27 years and I am going to say that what is posted above about the military hounding you for your political affiliation is absolute and utter crap, in fact, it's an outright lie that people are penalised or punished for being either Democrat or Republican. I voted for Obama as did some others and had friends and fellow service members that voted for McCain; there was no stigma and no hiding in closets afraid for our lives. I see a lot of attacks in these forums and a lot of people claiming to speak or know what the military members do or don't think. Truth is we are just like everyone else, some of us are democrat , some republican, some independent. If you want to claim to speak for us then go right ahead and give yourself a false sense that you know what is going through our minds.. you have the right of free speach and people that i have known over the years died to make sure you have it so say what you want, but how about stop spreading lies or insinuating that we kill each other in battle based on what damm political party we support. Get a clue, in combat we don't give a shit who is President at the time or what damm party they belong to .. we care about surviving and getting home to our families.. period
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home?
Posted: 10/27/2009 5:34:37 PM
A senior US official in Afghanistan has resigned in protest at a war he says cannot be won — as eight more US troops died yesterday making it the deadliest month in the eight-year conflict.

The resignation of Matthew Hoh, a senior Foreign Service officer and former Marine captain, reverberated as far as the White House, not only because of his superb credentials but also because of his view that the presence of US troops is fuelling the insurgency.

News of his resignation came as eight US servicemen died in a series of roadside bombings — a day after 14 Americans were killed in two helicopter crashes, bringing the number killed this month to 55. Officials said that the troops were killed in two attacks on their convoys by “multiple, complex” bombs in southern Afghanistan. An Afghan civilian working with the military was also killed. The attacks suggest that the Taleban’s weapons are becoming more sophisticated and lethal.

With President Obama appearing ready to send more troops to the country, Mr Hoh wrote in an emotional four-page resignation letter: “Put simply, I fail to see the value in the continued US casualties or expenditures in support of the Afghan Government in what is, truly, a 35-year-old civil war.”

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Mr Hoh, who spent six years in Iraq where he was cited for “uncommon bravery”, continued: “My resignation is based not on how we are pursuing this war, but why and to what end.” Many Afghans, he said, were fighting the US because its troops were there.

Hundreds, maybe thousands, of groups across Afghanistan had few ideological ties to the Taleban but took its money to fight the foreign intruders and maintain their local power bases, he said. Even if the US increased its commitment, it would take years, if not decades and generations, and many billions of dollars to achieve success.

Mr Hoh decided to make public his resignation, which took place in September, in yesterday’s Washington Post. “I want people in Iowa, people in Arkansas, people in Arizona, to call their congressman and say, ‘Listen, I don’t think this is right’,” he said.

He spoke of the multiple, seemingly infinite local groups — “it’s localism. I would call it valley-ism” — that fed an insurgency “by what is perceived by the Pashtun people as a continued and sustained assault, going back centuries, on Pashtun land, culture, traditions and religion by internal and external enemies”. Mr Hoh, who joined the US Foreign Service this year, was by July the senior US civilian in Zabul province, an area with a strong Taleban presence.

Karl Eikenberry, the US Ambassador in Kabul, tried to talk him out of resigning, even offering a post as a senior embassy official. Mr Hoh was then flown to the US, where he had a meeting with Richard Holbrooke, the Obama Administration’s Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. Mr Holbrooke asked him to join the State Department Afghanistan team. Mr Hoh accepted, then changed his mind a week later.

Mr Holbrooke, speaking to The Washington Post, said: “We took his letter very seriously, because he was a good officer. We all thought that — given how serious his letter was, how much commitment there was, and his prior track record — we should pay close attention.”

Mr Holbrooke said that he did not share Mr Hoh’s view that the war “wasn’t worth the fight”, but added: “I agreed with much of his analysis.”

This week Mr Hoh is scheduled to meet Vice-President Joe Biden’s foreign policy adviser, Antony Blinken, in the White House. Mr Blinken and Mr Biden oppose sending more troops to Afghanistan. Mr Hoh’s resignation comes as new polls indicate that half of Americans are now opposed to the war. President Obama’s delay in responding to a request for at least 40,000 more troops by his ground commander, General Stanley McChrystal, is also taking its toll politically.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll indcated that 63 per cent of Americans did not think that the President had a clear plan for dealing with Afghanistan. In a speech at a naval base on Monday, President Obama said: “I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm’s way.”

He is expected to make a decision on troops between November 7 — the date of the Afghan run-off election — and November 20.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 39 (view)
 
Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America
Posted: 10/27/2009 3:52:50 PM
Jesus, after reading these posts, I can see why America is in trouble. The left and the right hate each other so much that they can't see the forest for the trees. We spend so much time and energy pointing fingers and blaming each other that NOTHING changes to make this a better country for ALL of us.

Disagreeing with each other is perfectly fine and is as American as Baseball and Apple Pie used to be; however, at the end of the day we have to find common ground to make sure that all of our citizens are afforded what our Government is supposed to provide and that is the protection and the ability to enjoy LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS. Look around you! While we bicker and argue MILLIONS of our fellow citizens are in pain and in need. We should ALL be ashamed ! What is changing while we bicker and argue? Are we making things better for our citizens by bashing the president or by bashing the politicians of either party?

It's time to grow the **** up, look in the damm mirror and admit that we are ALL at fault.. we seriously ****ed up and let things get out of hand and until we stop trying to blame others NOTHING will change for the better!
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Mother relinquishes all rights to her son because she can't afford his healthcare
Posted: 10/20/2009 7:11:49 PM
It really is time to stop the bickering back and forth and realise that we do need universal health care here in the U.S.

One thing that I will say though is that it can't be dictated by any one political party or agenda. We need to bring in our brightest and best and have them develop a system that is fair to all our citizens without political ideologies being involved.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 232 (view)
 
My body,My choice!
Posted: 10/20/2009 7:00:59 PM
"I'm not going to " thump my chest and quote my credentials" however, you
Sir, are way out of your league in personal credentials and bedside knowledge
in comparison. This very thread is an obligation to warn people to make an
EDUCATED decision before you let someone jab you with something many
of us who practice medicine "bedside" feel, that may do more harm than good.
I am not saying ALL vaccines are bad, I'm saying I feel the SWINE FLU
is one that Thousand of Healthcare workers will agree with me, is something
I would not reccomend to any of my patients."

You are right, I am obviously WAY out of my league in personal credentials as compared to a health care worker who is trying to scare the public in order to justify the fact that he doesn't want to take a vaccine that he has been ordered to take to protect the public. Just a tip though before I write this discussion off for good; I would tend to wonder what type of credentials a person with a PHD in Public Health living and working in Georgia citing the MMWR may or may not possess before I write them off in my arrogance.

As I said, and as anyone who has taken some graduate level courses in health care as you seem to be implying you have should know, there is a totally different viewpoint at how public health and the medical community view things when it comes to these things. Public health looks at the health of the community versus the needs of an individual and the medical community worries more about the health and well being of the individual patient. You don't really seem to do either, you are just worried about yourself which makes me wonder why you are in the health care field.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 230 (view)
 
My body,My choice!
Posted: 10/20/2009 5:03:10 PM
" Sir, if you believe that injection of N1H1 flu shot is as simple
as getting a PPD ( we get them twice a year) then I cannot
even hold a disscussion with you on such a level. "

It was a comparison pointing out that it is simply a matter of having to do some things because you are a health care worker; you know, one of the primary high risk groups listed in MMWR for testing for TB "health-care workers who serve high-risk clients;"

You are correct though that a discussion between you and I on this topic is probably pointless due to the fact that my PHD in Public Health makes me see the issue from a community health perspective that you obviously don't feel any obligation to protect.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 229 (view)
 
My body,My choice!
Posted: 10/20/2009 4:47:20 PM
"Yes,
then we would see how effectively the system runs without one-third of the employees.

They would be asked back in a New York minute. "

I remember a lot of Air Traffic Controllers using that same logic to go on strike back in the 80's. They were sure surprised when it backfored on them and they lost those jobs.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 217 (view)
 
My body,My choice!
Posted: 10/19/2009 6:43:03 PM
It has nothing to do with the employer wanting him to release them from liability; it has to do with Health Care workers needing to be available to be health care workers during an outbreak. It's no diffrent than being required to do your annual PPD Screen or are you somehow ducking out of that also?
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Broadband a Right?
Posted: 10/18/2009 8:08:18 AM
On the 20+ million that do not have internet access or who have not used email, I wonder if anyone bothered to ask them if the reason that they do not is because they don't want it. There really are people in the world that feel being tied down with cell phones and internet access, email etc makes life MORE hectic and complicated. Just a thought.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 47 (view)
 
Eagle Scout/Soldier Suspended from High School
Posted: 10/17/2009 5:58:52 PM
"Isn't America sick enough as it is?"

America has problems just like everywhere else; however, as someone who was born and raised in Scotland and has traveled all over the world, I find America to be a great country to live in not "sick." America is a great country just by the very fact that she allows so much dissent and free speach among her citizens.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Some help here.. How do i..
Posted: 10/16/2009 2:00:22 PM
What? You are on a dating site looking for intimate encounters? Who knew that intimate encounters could come out of dating?
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Political Leaning/Allegiance?
Posted: 10/13/2009 6:01:23 PM
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 76 (view)
 
Homeland Security report.
Posted: 10/13/2009 4:19:22 PM
Wow, lotta anger here! Try and stick to the facts and and calm down a little with the personnal insults. It really is possible to disagree and debate without spewing hate and telling each other to shut the F*ck up.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 238 (view)
 
We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 10/13/2009 3:17:23 PM
Interesting viewpoint Dino and I agree about the power flipping back and forth between the two parties, as well as, voting for whatever party seems to suit us at the time. Isn't it interesting that the control seem to pretty much just go back and forth as though they are just handing the torch over for a little while to calm the masses?

I totally agree that the system needs an overhall and would be very supportive of term limits. The problem with term limits though is that it's a local decision and in instances like Cook County which you mentioned, why would the system allow term limits as long as they are controlling who gets in?
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Food Inc.
Posted: 10/12/2009 6:47:34 PM
And in this as in all things lately, we have to ask where is our Gov't and the protections that they are supposed to provide their citizens. Our Government is bought and paid for by the Corporations and we need to wake up and demand accountability.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 51 (view)
 
3 days no cigarettes is driving me NUTS!
Posted: 10/11/2009 6:45:16 PM
4 D's = Delay- Cravings last 20 minutes
Do Something Else= See above
Drink Water
Deep Breaths

Also consider Chantix
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 161 (view)
 
How important is a THREESOME???
Posted: 10/11/2009 4:15:13 PM
"Personally I think whatever two consenting adults (...or three...or four) want to do in the privacy of their homes is thei business. However, I think that's something that should have been dealt with before children and engagement. If the 3-some meant that much to him he should have 'manned-up' long before he made his committments (...which engagement and having a child are) and dealt with this issue"

It was brought up when they first started dating. He didn't spring it on her after the engagement and pregnancy. I am wondering if she made it totally clear to start that she never would or if she let him think she was considering it and would later. Men and women really need to make sure that they are sexualy compatable with their partners instead of thinking that if they ignore it or put it off long enough the other will forget it. Threesomes are something that some people enjoy and perhaps he sensed that she was never going to do it and that he would be trapped in a marriage with someone that he was not sexualy compatable with. It should have been worked out when he first expressed the desire, not waiting till she was pregnant, engaged, and perhaps thought she had him no matter what.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 74 (view)
 
Catching someone nude by accident...
Posted: 10/11/2009 12:15:11 PM
No Libra; however, judging from the picture you posted of yourself enjoying the rectal exam... I can see why you would assume that.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 18 (view)
 
why do women give out there number but then dont answer
Posted: 10/11/2009 12:11:03 PM
^^^ Cinder, you need to bottle your secret to staying so young and attractive looking and post directions for obtaining it on the internet.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 71 (view)
 
Catching someone nude by accident...
Posted: 10/11/2009 9:31:04 AM
When I was first in the Navy years ago and was in service school, I was dating a girl from my class and decided to go with her for the holidays. We were to stay at her parents house and had let them know that we would not make it till Saturday morning.

We were realeased from class early so decided to go ahead and leave for her parents house and got there late friday night. Not wanting to wake anyone up, she took me around the back way to come in through a den that had been built onto the house. Imagine my surprise when we walk in and her parents had obviously planned a romantic night with candles etc and the look on her parents face as we walked in on her dad taking it in the butt from the strap-on that her mother was using on him. My gf was mortified and I couldn't help but get a hard on at how sexy her mom looked naked with a strap-on. Needless to say I couldn't keep my imagination from running wild everytime I saw her mom and taking it out on my GF later. Wonder of she knew she was getting it so good because of how turned on her mom had me.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 32 (view)
 
sex and the single mother
Posted: 10/11/2009 9:06:37 AM
Hot Post, chrishallett, but what does it have to do with the subject of the forum.

#1. No, I don't see them as any easier than other women. In fact they may be a little more selective based on past experiences and knowing that actions have unintended consequences.

2. No, as long as it is handled correctly. Discretion is a must and acting appropriatly if inroduced to her family and kids.

3. No, I think that situations are diffrent and that sometimes two people just click and sex happens sometimes on the first date and sometimes on the 5th date. There is no right or wrong date to have sex on.
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Paying for Sex-Can cost you your job?!
Posted: 10/9/2009 1:20:16 PM
^^^^ it wasn't a bandwagon that was very jumpable..... and I suspect that he is out looking for a new job for his "friend" ..
 templar_2
Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
what would you do?
Posted: 10/8/2009 4:09:42 PM
Well at least he was honest and upfront about it. You have to ask yourself if that isn't worth something and really saying something about his character and trustworthiness. A lot of guys, including guys that you may have been with in the past, won't say anything and leave you to take your chances.

When you look at the stats on herpes more people seem to have it than don't and you may have it for years and never know it. Give him a chance and see where things go? Do your research and make sure that you take precautions if and when intimate.
 
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