Personally, I'm hoping for the rapture . . . then I can have all their stuff and we can move on.

It doesn't seem as though you've addressed the "every other nation and society" statement, even though you assert that it is "catagorically true." Fairly sound examples, though. Good start.

Actually, there was justification in your "explanation. Let's at least be honest about that.

"...the historical fact of why..." Now if that isn't a red flag of oversimplification then I'll be a monkey's uncle!

You're trying to hide the ball here. Careful what you call intellectually dishonest. Keep in mind that you don't have to defend the US against implications of being some evil empire. It gets you off track and it's really not the point.

That is your response to a poster calling fundamentalists ignorant of world events. Do you always support gross generalizations so vigorously?

What you have illustrated is that you have a biased, one sided, limited and self serving vision of history and apparently no relevant understanding or awareness of the broader world as far as current events and circumstances.

even if this were true (which it isn't)

sounds a lot like what my five year old nieces and nephews say when caught doing something bad.

"well, johnny did it too."

barbarity on the part of someone else is not an excuse for it on your part.

Oh yes, I forgot ignorant. Fundamentalists in every religion tend to be extremely ignornant about history and current world events and situations.

any nation that enslaved an imported population for 250 years and then repressed them brutally following that

has 4% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds wealth

has 10 million children who lack hot food every day

has the largest prison population per capita in the civilized world

has killed at least 100,000 civilians by bombing in the last ten years doesn't have a lot of room to be calling other civilizations barbarous.

Really? Or do a lot of men on here **** because the chick they have a hard on for does not write him back, and we all know that means she is a stuck up **** who is looking for Mr Perfect, and only goes for bad boys, and is probably a dike, and is just looking for a free meal and, and, and, ....

Students in public schools are fed huge doses of anti-American and humanistic propoganda. Joseph Stalin would be proud to see the progress of the American public school system in turning our youth in to radical communists.

Hmm - why are the carmakers having such problems now ? Japanese competition?

but if the Japanese experience is anything to go by, there could be major economic problems down the line.

I believe the world has always been a hard, cruel, killing, evil place, except for brief periods of specific history. I think that during the Victorian era and the proceeding 50-75 years, individuals in the western world were trained and cultured to present more civil, humane and formal virtues, so most people were less cruel and more gentle and genteel; while armies went out to conquer and cruelty stayed mostly on the battlefield and women stayed at home learning to be proper and obedient.

I think you win for coolness story.

In fact PETA is practically considered a terrorist organization because it stands in opposition to our society's position on animal rights.

Personally, I find it much easier to admit to my immorality and lack of authenticity, than to lie to myself. I will never proclaim that decent, ethical people, fighting a just cause for animal rights, are "terrorists" out to destroy our way of life; I know better; do you?

I am unsure if you were insulting me or the other poster, but insults do nothing to further a discussion, regardless of the receiver.

As per topic, I was wrong about history. I was not there, that does not change my stance on the idea of a Central Banking System.

quite the history student huh? did you notice the Great Depression started with the crash of 1929. the Federal Reserve Bank was created in 1912 and FDR didn't even become president until 1933 . and the Fed was created because of the Panics of 1873, 1893, and 1907.

The concepts that gave birth to the World Bank arose out of the neo liberal globalization movement in the 70s, and was pimped by western leaders like Reagan, Thatcher and Mulroney in the 80s, ...it's a failure. The idea was to shift power from nation states to economic market forces and mega corporations (no national loyalty, just a loyalty to greed). This methodology was akin to viewing societies through the prism of markets, as opposed to people.

Many nation-states, presented with utter financial failure have opted out of the model, and in spite of the hew and cry of the globalization proponents, they have all seen their national economic catastrophes turn to recovery, and even thriving economies, by adopting a positive nationalist stance that was the norm prior to the 70s/80s.

People who hurt animals are truly worthless garbage.

$7,000 fine for the idiot firing his gun out a window of his truck.

She must be pretty stupid to think her intestine has a head, arms and legs.

No, but being married has been known to make a person suicidal.

Due to me not attending yesterday the judge felt that my appeal to vary the order was just tit-for-tat, he wouldn't allow CAFCASS to get involved. Nor would he force my ex to attend mediation to sort this out faster (which is the result I was hoping for).

And how many of those people actually need medical attention on the days when they don't have coverage? It isn't having a significant effect on overall life expectancy if they can go in the following day/week/month.

And I'd take you bet for all you've got. The census report where the 47 million number came from states that less than 16% of that 47 million had no healthcare coverage at all throughout the entire year surveyed.

No, in fact, you just made mine. People get access to them without the need for a Universal Heathcare system.

I, for one, do not want some government 'official' deciding if my life or the life of my child is worth trying to save.

I never said you claimed that the gap was widening. The point in mentioning that the gap isn't widening is that if universal care was responsible for the gap at all, the gap SHOULD BE widening. It isn't, hence unniversal care isn't responsible for it.

#1 - not all trips to a health care provider or facility will prolong a person's life. If I go to a doctor and they tell me there is nothing wrong with me will I live longer then if I hadn't gone?

#2 - Not all who have healthcare insurance make use of it. The longevity numbers are for the total population. You could, under your theory, raise the longevity rates by getting people who already have insurance to get better/more frequent medical care. Even if there was 100% coverage, you still wouldn't have 100% participation.

#3 - those who don't have healthcare coverage in the U.S. aren't a static group. The often touted "47 million" that don't have healthcare coverage in the U.S. is actually 47 million people that didn't have coverage at some point during the 2 years prior to the survey. Some may have only been without for a day.

#4 - a large portion of the uninsured aren't U.S. citizens (45% of non-citizens in the U.S. have no insurance) and wouldn't be covered under any of the proposed health plans so their impact isn't going to be changed.

You can claim that it doesn't make sense but the stats don't lie.

Heath insurance does little to impact longevity overall.

Advances in medical science drive those changes.

The discovery of antibiotics and widespread use of immunizations did more to impact longevity in the industrialized world than anything else.

Octomom might be the extreme,

but there are numerous premies born in the United States where the parent's tab is picked up by the the state/federal government just as Canada paid his daughter's.

While the U.S hasn't surpassed these other countries, those countries haven't made gains on the U.S. either.

]The trend lines all remain on a parallel and implementing universal care in the U.S. isn't going to change that.

if insurance did not cover it all , the child can be covered by Medicaid (in the US) as catastrophic care. The social worker assigned to you in the hospital should be working on it at time of birth. Granted there is about a 3 mo period before it kicks in , but you shouldnt be getting a bill once its pending- they can & do backbill

[This disclosure signals the end of the dollar. Just to remind you, it has been alleged in this story, that there will be a "bankers' holiday" in September, where all withdrawals are frozen, to be followed by the introduction of a totally new global currency when they reopen.
Anyone who prefers to have cash in their pockets better take heed! Tomorrow will be very different from today. Better hurry with those last minute purchases of shotguns and canned goods.

They at least credit from me for standing up and risking their lives for their beliefs. Something most people won't do .

All 7 Billion people on the planet know exactly what happens, the stone sinks.

How do you distinguish correct insight from incorrect insight? ( Philosophical quest).

Thank you waz and alli... I had yet another scare... I am only a fingertip dialated... and not dialating anymore. Hopefully they have stopped until it is closer to my due date.

Just occured to me; we've got 'Ask a Girl' and 'Ask a Guy', where's 'Ask a Gay'?

guess you will never admit you made a mistake when you said the yellowcake info was rushed up the chain of command in order to score brownie points even though the record clearly shows Cheney learned about it from his aide who had been told about it by Italian intelligence.

I guess it's too much to expect you acknowledge a fact. That's too "political" for you.

It's interesting how you're willing to talk about the politics of this with others who agree with you, but when I point out your errors of fact, you claim I'm talking about the politics of it (though I'm not) and refuse to discuss the politics

I do know that there are places that can harvest Canadian Geese, and have shot them for shyts and giggles then dumped over 30 dead birds over an embankment.

I am an avid supporter of eco-terrorism, frankly. I was happy when they burned down Vail properties a few years ago. It takes radicals to make "normal" people understand how bad it's gotten.

I disagree with your assessment about this show in particular not gaining support for anti-whaling. The popularity of the show sort of points out that is IS garnering support -- perhaps a lot of people never knew how icky whale butchering is; now they do, so can be outraged.

India is expecting to retire the VIRAAT in two years when they commission their refitted Kiev class carrier, which would be the ex-ADMIRAL GORSHKOV (I wonder which poster on this thread might get a kick out of that).

Iraq is an interesting situation and "Intelligence" played a lot smaller role than politics.

I know some of the people who monitored our ground assets and those of the enemy. Countless times they saw our assets closing in on an objective in superior numbers and with the tactical high ground only for the attack/hit to be called off and for them to stand down.