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 Author Thread: Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 158 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/23/2009 8:50:50 PM
don't forget to add that those that accept the assistance of welfare help are giving the government far more control over their lives than a DNA test.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 76 (view)
 
A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
Posted: 11/23/2009 8:24:32 PM
^^ because it was an American company that had just come to Canada, and the 500 employees that had all started when I did, were still under the 3 month thing, they could fire for no reason what so ever if they wanted to. They then asked me back a few months later, I chose not to and the last call center I worked for here in BC was a good one. Now I do my work from home working on websites for now.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 73 (view)
 
A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
Posted: 11/23/2009 6:45:39 PM
Startek would be that call center lol. I assume the one in your area is stream, will never work there again.... they are not family oriented in anyway.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 71 (view)
 
A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
Posted: 11/23/2009 6:04:52 PM
i worked in a call center in kingston lost my job as the school called my daughter was ill and her father was on the road in another town working I was closer. Because I did clear it with the boss I thought it was ok, next morning he fired me in front of my team for having to leave my shift to pick up my 8 yr old at school.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
25 Things My Mother Taught Me
Posted: 11/23/2009 3:37:29 PM
don't know Carter'scutie, they tend to vote threads off here sometimes because it seems if it isn't agrumentative they don't want it.

Wasn't me that voted on it at all, kind of thought some of those were funny and once in awhile a thread like this is good.

Makes me wonder and have stated before why do they delete stuff like this and keep threads that talk about which smiley one likes the best as has happened in the relationship forum.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 68 (view)
 
A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
Posted: 11/23/2009 12:39:39 PM
^^^^ ya coming from a lady that claims I was too judgemental about a woman I knew who was on baby no 8 with daddy no. 8.

Guess shes somewhat judgemental herself...

When one works at a disability resource center as I do, I see them come in on a daily basis, as well I have had to use the system before, I know the benefits available and the amounts they are entitled to.

Here in BC and eye examine is only partitally covered. The Ministry pays, $43 of the eye exam and about $120 for the glasses.

In Ontario not sure about the eye exam being covered, but they are covered for $200 for glasses, if a person only gets $60 out of that chances are thay have used up a portion of that benefit. If they don't get any coverage for the dental they have definitely used it up as in Ontario (kingston area anyway) the coverage was $400 for the calendar year.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 481 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/23/2009 12:33:41 PM
that username, forgot about that supplement, i was basically talking about the main child tax one, it is a bit more than that for a child over 6 or so it says on my stub anyway like only a few dollars or so though.

Still can't get over there are actually people who believe $60 a month covers a child especially a baby, how about the NCP reduce their support payments to that and just watch how many will complain then that it is not enough.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 126 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/23/2009 12:30:50 PM
gotta agree with freeto I am female and believe fathers have a right to know as well. The child is half ours and half theirs.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 125 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/23/2009 12:28:29 PM
The information from the tests would only be available to those involved in it. It would not be public at least the idea I had come up with. Just as is your medical records, and blood tests, it is between you and your doctor, so all in all the results of the DNA test would be between the doctor and the two parties.

Would the woman who was raped, not want her rapist caught if they could do it that way? I know I would.

The sperm bank and donors would and probably could be worked around.

As for if a man has doubts, yes he can ask for a test, but some refuse to mostly because they know they are the father and don't want to be known that they fathered the child. (My son's father does it because he does not want the new girlfriend to know he never had a vasectomy he claims that he did)

I told her how about going off the birth control and see just how long it takes her then she can see who is lying, but then again he will say not his at that point as well.

I only think its a good idea as how many men will blantly say nope not mine when they know the child is, and then there is proof that the child is or isn't right at the time of birth. Bet you more people will either keep their pants up or keep it in their pants rather than cheating on the spouse or trying to pin paternity on any unsuspecting guy.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 479 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/23/2009 10:37:25 AM

I think an infant could possibly be raised on $60 a month far easier that an older child. If you do not count a mothers nutritional cost; breast milk is free. Infants do not care what they are wearing so long as they are kept warm enough and comfortable. Cloth diapers may have a large initial cost if bought new but, can be used many times over.


Don't forget cloth diapers will need to be also replaced every once in awhile, babies do not stay the same size forever, they need to be laundered as well. They need baby food between 4 to 6 months. Would love to see the one's who claim $60 will cover a baby or any child for that matter for a month. Guess in your eyes they do not need toys, baby equipment, etc.

I don't know about you but $60 a month doesn't really cut it, especially when a snowsuit for an infant is $30 and over. Some also don't have the luxery of a washer and dryer at home and have to go to laundermat, with a baby I am doing laundry at least one load a day and cloth diapers would add to that. It costs $1.50 a load to wash and $1.50 load to dry so one load a day means a fair bit of money spent on doing laundry everyday. That would amount to about $90 a month right there. I am not saying that is everyone's scenerio either, but I have been there where I had to do my laundry at a laundermat... I now own my own set, but with that comes the water, the laundry soap the extra hydro to run them. I could go on endlessly about things that get used more with a child, but it is pointless as I myself would be well over the $60 limit.

Why do you think the child tax is more for a child under 6? Rather than older? I would tend to think maybe because younger children outgrow things faster than a 12 yr old? Just a guess but I find that my son goes through more stuff right now than my daughter does currently as she isn't outgrowing her clothes almost every month. She also doesn't have several dirty outfits a day.

Anyway I think its stupid to put such a low amount onto that just because a parent feels that they really want to put the least amount into helping to support there child.

And before anyone lights into me for it, I do not receive CS and probably never will
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 104 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/23/2009 9:38:16 AM
I would like to add, about the what if the father didn't show for the test, well if everyone had it when they were born eventually everyone would be in the system, then father doesn't show up, no biggie as they can run a match .

My idea wasn't so much about cheating etc as it was about some men saying not my kid, yet many get their knickers in a knot at the thought of the idea. If everyone had it done, no one is singled out as it would be as routine as them taking the blood tests once your child is born.

My sister and I had it done to see if we did indeed have the same father, haven't in 10 yrs had anyone ever say, hey so and so has this or that because of a DNA test.

It would make the world so much easier, not only on the paternity thing, but also unsolved crimes where they can't find a match to what they would collect at a scene. Think about it, maybe crimes would go down if people knew their dna was on file and they could get caught a lot more easy. Rapists and murders wouldn't be roaming the streets for years before they got caught etc.

If people and it seems mostly the women are dead against it, have the feeling they would be thought of lesser class, then they shouldn't sleep around with anyone so they don't know who the father is. We women can't deny the child is ours, and as long as we haven't been sleeping around or cheating on our spouse we really have nothing to hide.

In the case of adopted children, etc, when old enough they would know this anyway I would hope. THey should be told at some point in their life. It also may make finding their bio parents easier.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 75 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/22/2009 9:06:43 PM
I would tend to lean towards those that don't like the idea would have something to hide.

I have nothing to hide, I know who the father of my children is, he only denies the boy, and only after the birth of him. He was all excited for awhile, however once the babe was born he made sure he couldn't be found except through his work.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 471 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/22/2009 7:34:11 PM
i find it interesting that V_C comes in says something about someone like what I am wearing in my pictures then disappears again.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 63 (view)
 
A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
Posted: 11/22/2009 11:20:19 AM

^She got the max.payout. Perhaps when she really can't see anything they may give her $200?

Kind of like the another friend with teeth cracking. If that's not a dental emergency verified by her dentist...then what is?


Maybe because she possibly had already used a portion of the max $200 for the glasses and the $400 for basic emergency dental within that 12 month period.

I lived in ontario on assistance once about 2 yrs ago and those were the rates then. Your friend may not be telling you the whole story.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 467 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/22/2009 11:14:59 AM
I will also add about what I am wearing in my pics V C, in the summer most people wear tank tops, which is when those were taken. At least I am not afraid to put my pic up.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 466 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/22/2009 11:11:45 AM

You allways assume. I guess the functionality of your brain does not connect with your optical nerve. I know what the cost of clothing is but look at your pic " what are you wearing".


he's baaaacccck!!! lol.

What's wrong with what I am wearing? You didn't pay for it so it is no concern of yours, nor is it gap or any other brand name.

Oh and I never lied and got pregnant, nor do I have a ton of what I don't need, I also do it on my own, no CS as he is one of those that runs and hides.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 38 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/22/2009 11:06:45 AM
I have to agree with the skin color thing, my daughter is darker than my son. Both children are Mohawk, cree, and Irish on my side and Kiwi on their fathers side. My daughter was born with blond hair that has since turned darker, and has blue eyes even though they claim brown eyes are dominant (dad has brown eyes) The boy was born with very dark hair and darker skin than he has now, he has gone lighter since birth. His eyes are an even deeper blue than his sisters, he is beginning to look like his father.

As it goes, genetics is something we will never fully understand. Much like my sisters, all of us except one is dark haired, the blond one no one knows how it happened yet, DNA test had shown she has the same parents...so go figure. Sometimes it comes from generations back, same as height, my ex and I are not tall people, there aren't tall people in our families, yet my daughter at 11 is the same height as me... gotta wonder where that comes from.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/21/2009 9:18:05 PM
it really doesn't mean a child is the man's just because they are married. There are still cases of married couples where the man denies it is his child.

Plus here in Canada the father has to sign it so married or not if he doesn't want to sign it he doesn't have to.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
Posted: 11/21/2009 8:52:29 PM
What do people think of this?

I think it could be a good idea as it could eliminate issues such as mine where the father even though we were together and have an 11 yr old and 7 month old from denying the youngest as his. His thinking is because he cheats so does the other person. However he refuses to do the paternity and even trying to serve him papers is proving difficult.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Would a man be accepting to this situation, or is it useless to even try to meet someone?
Posted: 11/20/2009 8:28:40 PM
Pretty much what the others said here, the fact you live off the cs, makes many wary as they feel they could end up in that situation themselves.

I wouldn't be proud to announce that either that hey I am at home living off the ex while he works so I can pay the bills. No way.

It will definitely be hard to find someone who will stick around if that be told to them.
But all in all there are some who will date you, and there are those who won't.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 457 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/20/2009 7:04:17 PM
The comment about the $60 sounds like it comes from V_C a poster who a few weeks ago claimed almost the same thing. He even went to the extent of claiming he bought clothes for his sisters kids all name brand like gap, and it cost under $30 a month.

A the comment thats all a NCP should contribute is $60 a month, go get a life, obviously you don't live in the real world.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 40 (view)
 
SING FATHER, PRIMARY CAREGIVER. Can I lose in Family -HELP Court?
Posted: 11/19/2009 9:35:04 AM
also very interesting click on history other thread where he was then pretending to be the mother is now gone and his name shows here as lindsay may, but in the history as B. freeman.... geez could have at least made a complete different account if he/she felt the need to play some attention seeking games.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 37 (view)
 
SING FATHER, PRIMARY CAREGIVER. Can I lose in Family -HELP Court?
Posted: 11/18/2009 10:59:36 PM
Citybushgirl Prince Edward Island
SignCapricorn
Height5' 10" (178 cm)
Age31 year old Man <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relationship N/A
Smoker? No
EthnicityOther Ethnicity with Brown hair
Body TypeAthletic
Religion Christian - other
ChemistryView his chemistry results






I am Seeking a Man
ForHang Out

Do you drink? No
Marital Status Single
Profession Mother<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Smarts Masters degree
Do you want children?Yes
Do you do drugs?No
Do you have children?Yes
Do you have a car?Yes

Interests
Everything and anything



he's a 31 yr old male with most likely the exes picture, but HIS profession is a mother?

Are we missing something here?
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 36 (view)
 
SING FATHER, PRIMARY CAREGIVER. Can I lose in Family -HELP Court?
Posted: 11/18/2009 10:57:31 PM
BTW this OP is a male with a woman's picture up, has prentended to be the father and rhe mother... don't even waste your time with this poster.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 30 (view)
 
adjuvented or non-adjuvented
Posted: 11/18/2009 9:25:03 PM
When I lived in Ontario Vaccines were forced, if you didn't do it the CPS would apprehend your children saying neglect.

I have friend who's son is now 16 he was fine and normal until an injection and was found to be autistic. It made me wary, however here in BC, we have no choice, it must be done or the children can not enter school.

I will not take them for flu vaccinations, formaldahyde and metals don't belong in the body.

Fab-mom your comment on tylenol? Stupid really, its not posinious, it doesn't contain metals and formaldyahide and dead animal cells and stuff, there is a major difference between vaccinations and tylenol.

It is rather interesting that people believe all the hype about this H1N1 stuff, so if it were all over the news the world was going to end tomorrow would you believe that too?
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 38 (view)
 
A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
Posted: 11/18/2009 4:09:22 PM

Because child support isnt considered income for assistance.


Most provinces consider it as income and therefore lose dollar for dollar on their assistance checks. So for example max check is about 800 or so here, say you get $200 in CS, you only will get a assistance check of $600.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 14 (view)
 
adjuvented or non-adjuvented
Posted: 11/17/2009 5:02:34 PM

Just ask for the nasal-based vaccine by MedImmune.


We don't have that version of it here, it is only available in the US. Also we have the choice here whether to get it or not, and I decided not to. Why pump our bodies with more stuff than we need to, more people have died from the regular flu than this one.

It is so funny how someone says something, it hits the news and we have an all out panic over it.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 391 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/17/2009 3:55:52 PM
I have to agree with notdesperate.

Why should the non custodial parent work 24hr? They do have a life as well, just as we do.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 162 (view)
 
Multiple children by multiple partners
Posted: 11/17/2009 1:14:23 PM
^^^ only if you are doing it for the sole purpose of having children with every man that enters your life and kick them out have the baby and go get knocked up by another man and do it so you don't have to work and stay on welfare, then yes,

I have no problem with it, to each their own, until they sit on welfare having children so that they do not have to work. If you can afford your children and want to have tonz of them by different men, then so be it.

Hell why not have about 6 more, I am sure there are plenty men out there willing to hop in the sack and up and leave.

Anyway I say no more on this subject as those who have accused me of being judgemental have done such themselves in other threads.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Explaining to a Child why a parent is absent
Posted: 11/17/2009 12:43:05 PM
With the back dating of support, it is generally at least here from the date the order was made.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:16:10 PM
it mostly gets confusing as people tend to just copy and paste what someone said with out actually using the quote feature, if they did and it really is pretty simple to do, then things wouldn't get so confused.

I only pointed out the bikini as svlenta blue commented on OPs hair, was just pointing out there were things about her other posters may not like... like such a dumb thing to pick on hair
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/16/2009 1:55:18 PM
See thats where learning to "quote" things properly leads to less confusion, what Carmina posted of a profile was NOT HERS, it was someone else's.

How many people actually read things in here before jumping on someone?

You all jumped on Carmina for her profile so she brings up an even nastier one yet you guys all think it is hers because once again people only read what they wanted to and missed the rest.

How about we all start using the darned quote thing so it gets less confusing....
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 357 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/16/2009 11:05:49 AM
I agree there should be on actual costs of raising a child, but that amount should not be left to be determined by the parents as there are some that have posted on these forums before that the costs are extremely low, by saying diapers is about $20 a month, clothes $30 etc, those ones would end up paying as little as possible.

It should be an amount set in stone, and based on which area you live in as each area has a different cost of living.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/15/2009 11:04:06 PM
Sweetness I only said what I did as that poster was picking apart the OPs profile maybe you wanna check out bikini girls profile, she had no right to say anything nasty about OP's profile when hers is not so nice.

And what you quoted was from bikini girls profile, not the OP's guess one should learn to read first though.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/15/2009 6:04:33 PM
I agree with that one comment, how can people pick apart someone's profile when they expose most of their body like one poster on here. Get many men asking for sex? If so thats why. Why can't some of you actually wear clothes, rather than bikini tops that don't really cover it all?

think about that before picking apart someone else's profile.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 350 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/15/2009 4:27:34 PM
have to agree with wondering sole that is insane to pay half their income.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 71 (view)
 
birthing stories!!!
Posted: 11/15/2009 3:37:24 PM
I went into labour with my daughter on labor day that year.... 3.30am and of course had stated to her father I bet thats when it is going to happen. Well I am sure I woke up all the neighbors couldn't walk down the stairs it hurt so bad. I guess they heard me a block away screaming lol. Well the midwife lived a half hour out of town and must have drived so fast as she passed us on the way to the hospital....and was getting in elevator at the same time.

During labor he told me to stop yelling it couldn't hurt that bad so the midwife turned to him and told him to have a watermelon come out his ass and see how good that feels...

She was born in a half hour of us getting to the hospital. Very fast labor i guess I hadn't felt the majority of it over night.

With my son it was a scheduled c-section as my daughter was 10lb 4 oz as I had undiagnosed diabetes. I had to take insulin this last pregnancy sugar levels were very high and I still take it.

The c-section was uninventful really didn't feel anything except when the numbing started to come out from the spinal it felt like I was still sitting...then the doctor says its a boy. My friend who came with me and I both were surprised as the ultrasound said a girl. Those tend to be wrong anyway.

Now to laugh at how he was conceived... in the van... we thought it would be fun to do some camping on one of the gigs, uhm well I need to say no more.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 157 (view)
 
Multiple children by multiple partners
Posted: 11/15/2009 1:57:48 PM
No not in States, Canada and each Province is different, here in BC it is 2 years unless you are a single parent then up til your child is 4 - 5 which is why many of them have another to avoid getting cut off. In Ontario it doesn't have a cut off but you are asked to work if your child is 5, so again some have another kid to avoid having to look for work. I know families back east who have been on assistance for years and years. However Ontario will soon be adopting the BC way of putting a time limit on it.

And the social services has been called about this family, they choose not to bother, they were apprehended once and returned, apparently the foster families could not handle the children they were right out of control. It's pretty sad really.

I feel more along the lines of mandatory drug counselling and stuff, don't do it don't get the funding pretty simple.

And from what I read on these forums some men have a hard enough time accepting a woman with one child because it is someone else's let alone having to deal with 8 of them. I guess that the fathers aren't involved leaves a lot of baby daddy drama out, who would want to deal with that? I know if I were involved with a man who had fathered 8 kids with 8 women I don't think I would stick around, shows lack of comittment and lack of morals.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 153 (view)
 
Multiple children by multiple partners
Posted: 11/15/2009 12:18:13 PM

^^^I would never condition my love or respect for my children based on their poor life choices....just as I have not conditioned my love for my parents based on their unplanned choices in life...


unplanned choices my ass... they planned to have sex with daddy number 8 how is that unplanned? Daddy no 8 like previous 7 daddies is no longer in picture baby due soon. Let's see I almost guarentee she will be pregnant with baby no. 9 by daddy n0, 9 within 3 months of having baby no.8. Thus extending her stay on welfare for another 5 years... glad you approve of such... if its so great why don't you go do it too?

I can at least pride myself in knowing I have more self respect then to go out and have kids with some random guy off the streets just to stay on welfare so one doesn't have to work. You miss the whole point of anything I said.

You are all acting as though I put you in this catergory, yet I have not. Do any of you have this many children with different men who are no longer involved in the children's lives because YOU kick them out of it? Do you sit on welfare and smoke pot and take up daycare spots the working people can use? Do you purposly go out and get pregnant 3 months after having a baby with yet another man? If you do, I suggest you smarten up and get a brain and possibly quit having more children that one cannot afford living in this lifestyle.

It becomes my business when said person is banging on my door several times a day, because hydro has been cut, can't pay rent, can't buy groceries because they spend their money on drugs and alcohol and are just to stupid to understand maybe just maybe if they quit having babies they could half ass feed the ones they have without bumming off the neighbors.

Geez by baby daddy no 5 they should ha ve clued in that is if there is anything of a brain in their head.

You don't like what I said or are offended sorry I offend you, as obviously you must lead this sort of life this girl does to be offended so much.

you totally miss that the ones i am referring to baby daddies are NOT involved and are booted out while said mum is pregnant, then she repeats the cycle time and time again. That is where I lose respect for them, these children are being affected by the men in and out of their lives. Maybe if the guys were around more than long enough for her to get knocked up and maybe if she had a clue who any of the fathers were I would think differently. As like you I am entitled to how I think.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Check this site out
Posted: 11/14/2009 4:35:05 PM
We have something sort of along that lines here but its just fresh fruit and vegetables, we pay $10 a month for a bag of this and get it around a week or so later, it is all locally grown as well, and is not a welfare program and there is no limits. The place I work for is one of the host sites for it as well. We pick up the produce and then hand it out to the clients who ordered.

We are also opening a community food connection much like the angel ministries where if someone only needs a little of something, such as flour, a few eggs, etc, they can buy just the few items.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Embarrassing moments brought to you by your kids
Posted: 11/13/2009 7:34:32 PM
I nursed my daughter til she was 2 and remember being on the bus coming home from walmart, she was yelling I want boobie for the whole bus to hear and tearing at my shirt. Should have seen the looks.... her father laughed when he heard that one when he got off work.

Another time we had lamb for dinner one night, and she asks about Mary's little lamb if that was the same animal. Of course her father said yes. She went to school next day and I got a call from the teacher. Apparently the whole class was in tears, She had told them when they were singing mary had a little lamb, that she had eaten Mary's lamb for dinner.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 341 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/13/2009 6:48:07 PM
I wouldn't hand the kids over to my ex, he told me he would get custody and then place the kids for adoption as then he wouldn't have to pay support. Pretty bad what some will do to get out of paying support.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 339 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/13/2009 6:27:24 PM
Why don' t the men who feel they shouldn't have to pay CS, just do that and take off to another country never to be found again? I hear a lot of men whining how they have to pay to help to support OMG get this their own children.... how awful.... Quite alright to support them as long as you are with their mother for those that do, but once ya split its like you think you divorce your kids too.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Bass Guitar Players.
Posted: 11/13/2009 5:22:22 PM
Pretty much what they all said. I find new strings need lots more working in. I play bass, mine's 4 string sparkly purple and my sons father who has been playing for years has a 5 string bass.

And yes the bass strings are thicker i find i had to press harder than i did on the classic 6 string.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Well you chose them
Posted: 11/13/2009 10:21:13 AM
Everyone makes mistakes, the idea is to learn from them and not continue the cycle repetitively.

I to get tired of hearing, well you chose him he had to be like that before the baby. Geez if he was, I would have left after I had my daughter, however I stayed another 10 yrs.... why? Becuase up until the last little bit when I was pregnant this time, things changed, and for the person who posted people don't change, answer this.

Are you still the same person today you were when you were younger? If not that would mean you have changed. We all change we grow up (well some of us) we learn from past mistakes (once again some of us)

I also notice that it is mostly said to women who leave the relationship, that we picked them and should have seen the red flags. Or the comment that when the relationship ends we do it for money not because of other issues.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 319 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/12/2009 7:37:34 PM
So as a post stated awhile back in order for it not not to benefit the parent as well when they buy groceries if they are in the low to middle income bracket the custodial parent should eat kraft dinner and beans and the child get steak and potatoes right?

How about you non custodial parents try living like that then?
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 310 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/12/2009 11:10:53 AM
I wish my ex would even just pick up a pack of diapers or buy some groceries etc for his kids, I don't need to see the money really I do it on my own, my biggest thing is wanting him to visit his children as he has never even seen his son.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 307 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/12/2009 10:12:40 AM
SilverHawk,
How old is your son? Why not start up an RESP for him it doesn't take much even $5 to open it and if you never put anything else into it again it will still accumulate about 18,000 for the child for their education when that time comes. That's what I am doing for mine.

This is also a Canada Wide thing not just out here on the west coast.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 136 (view)
 
Multiple children by multiple partners
Posted: 11/11/2009 9:38:13 PM
I left him, he didnt leave me and had I not left I'm sure he would have just kept doing what he was... he wanted the family at home but wanted the others as well.
 matariki sweet
Joined: 5/9/2009
Msg: 302 (view)
 
An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
Posted: 11/11/2009 3:43:20 PM
And HPotters,
Why should women be embarrassed to get CS. I don't get it, but many do. The kids may have no respect for the parent that didn't bother when they really needed that piddly little $200 a month. Most don't get no $1500 a month.

What should the other parent have to do? Nothing? Not support the child they helped create? After all if they were contributing within the relationship, be they married or not, it is still their child. I would think the child would have more resent for the parent that didn't even pay a cent towards their care.

Ya I know my kids will respect me for doing it on my own, but they are going to resent their father for not even bothering to help out in anyway. They will think, or at least I am pretty sure, that their father didn't care about them very much.

I also notice by a few of your posts you have an issue with inter racial children and families. Nothing wrong with it. Love is love and knows no boundries.
 
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