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Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Ex asked to see me... I went Posted: 6/25/2009 9:20:53 PM
I posted because I had hope and I know it seams stupid but I did. Theres no hope now she didnt text or call or nothing after Sunday when she asked me if I knew she loved me bla bla bla she had a great time seeing me and she got what she wanted a massage ect. then nothing. I texted she responded but it was meaningless small talk. I asked her if shed do dinner she said yes this week. Then shit hit the fan her BF Tom found out she seen me sunday and he called me. As it turns out hes been seeing his EX anny and its a mess but Jens staying by his side even after her big "he dont love me speech" and she believes hes not cheating. Jen asked me to drop off her fav. candy when I passed by her house I did and Tom told me he doesn't want to hear that I'm dropping off "gifts" at her house and wtf... I'm so confused and so hurt and I know I should have left her ass so long ago when she was the one who wanted to be with me and she was the one crying but now its me whos broken. So yea your all ****ing right and I'm the fool. Its just when I seen her sunday the look in her eyes her smell her touch it was sooo amazing again I mean wow we did every thing together and I know you all will say it gets better ect. But can anyone tell me I will meet some one that will replace her? I don't think its possible to ever replace my first every thing I mean my god we tried to get preg. We were engaged and all we even were picking out apartments this is soo messed up I look at her and I see heaven even now i see some one that I would spend the rest of my life with and I know thats soo messed up for me to still love her but I do. And she soo dont give a damn about me and I know it. Well anyway thanks for all your solid advice I knew from the start what I should have done for some reason I just couldn't and I came running when she called. Go figure... Even now I wish shed call but i know i would all be meaningless so now I guess I go back to whatever I once was a year ago if I can ever find myself again.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Ex asked to see me... I went Posted: 6/21/2009 8:29:00 PM
Never mind I don't need more shit in my life. Could some one delete this thread since I'm apparently just a Troll? I will deal with this on my own I managed to get her to see me so its a start. I can figure out the rest with out this forum labeling me.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Ex asked to see me... I went Posted: 6/21/2009 8:19:33 PM
Yes I started a new thread, our relation ship is no longer at that stage or any thing like that its now turned a 180 and I'm in uncharted waters. I find my self being on of those guys whos messing with other mans woman. Or am I, I mean she was my finance before him.. IDK whats what hence the new thread.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Ex asked to see me... "I went" Posted: 6/21/2009 8:08:46 PM
I have no idea whats going on so all you ladies please chime in! My ex left me a few times for other guys (twice) she left the other guy #1 and came back to me. Now shes with #2. Shes been calling me non stop for weeks saying she loves me talking about us and having hope... Then her new man found out and told her it has to stop. She said it wasnt fair to him and said bye to me. (I finally said bye and I wasnt polite about it) 4 days latter I got a AIM it said she was soo sorry bye. The next morning she called I didnt answer. Today she hit me up on aim and it wasn't anything special She said she was sorry for leading me on and that she dont know any thing right now. She never wanted to hurt me but she did and shes sorry. Then 30 mins latter she aims me and askes if I wanted to meet up at 8:40 Ok I was like what? me? Shes like yea just to talk. We meet up she doesn't have long she has to meet her BF Tom in 45 mins. She has a car now asks me to get in shes just like "how are you" bla bla bla she says she does love me and she asks me if I know that I said its hard to belive you left me and bailed she says she knows. She put her feet on my lap asked me to rub them then her back and neck... She started to breath heavy and we were face to face she was laying against me and it was like old times. Tom was getting pissed she was late and that was that. She said she will see me more often and that Tom don't love her. He wont even rub her. I asked her why she wanted to see me she said it just seamed right. WTF IS GOING ON?!?!?! I can smell her all over my clothes this is the first time I seen her in months and god does it hurt. It sounded like she isnt happy with tom so what do I do I still love the girl and I still want to be with her even after every thing. Is there a proper way to do this?

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 6/15/2009 11:30:54 AM
Well heres the end. I guess it needed to be said Josh to jenj show details Jun 14 (1 day ago) Reply Hey, This is the last time you will hear from me but I have a few things I need to say to you Jen. I am really having a hard time putting my feelings into words and I really don't know what to say to you after the past 10 months but one thing is clear to me. I love you and you will never be mine again. The past few weeks you have said all the right things and you have given me such hope for us and yet in the end you always ruin every thing. You said I should wait for you and give us time.. You told me we had a connection and I was still your number one and after every thing the calls the talk about meeting up and heck even the talks about making love and my hands... You still in the end cut and run. You talk about your love for me and how I'm always there for you. You mention you needing me for court and how you want a future with me and some day a family. You say all these things and then the next day you act like I don't even exist! That text Jen.. about how you talking to me isnt fair to Tom. WOW!!! Like any on this is fair to me! ME Jen!!! The guy you asked to marry you! The guy who bought you a ring... How is any of this fair to me? You call me acting all lovey dovy and talking about wanting to be with me again and then you say that this isnt fair to Tom... You knew him a few months you knew me nearly a year. The only thing that isn't fair is the game you play with mens hearts. I gave you every thing I had to offer and I loved you with my heart Jen and that means allot to me IDK about you but you meant some thing to me. I cared about you more then anyone you were my baby my precious my yum yum and I never thought the day would come that I'd hate you... But God I do Jen, I hate you so much for what you have done to me. How you just threw me out like trash over Tyler, Scott, and now Tom. And after everything you done to me I stood by your side always and I still was by your side today. now tho after every thing after how you just threw me aside again today.. I thought you changed I thought maybe just maybe Jen really cares about me. Maybe shes telling me the truth and really does want to be with me. Then you went and did this... After every thing we been through how could you? One things for sure Jen you arnt capable of love. You don't understand what it means to truly love some one and what it means when you tell some one there the one you want to spend your life with. That some one was you. Just know that you had a future with me and now you ended it before it even began. I may still have feelings for you Jen and I may still want to grow old with you but I know now that will never happen because of what you have done here today. You made a choice and it wasn't me... Don't call and don't write. Don't text and don't ever think of me again. My heart can't take it I swore I'd never cry over you again and here I am crying trying to type a email to you and I just can't take this any more. You must have no heart to have done this to me, no feelings at all... Your soo cold I wanted to spend my life with you, raise a family and grow old together. I'm so sorry you never loved me the way I loved you. I hope some day you find a man who will love you and treat you as much and as well as I have. If you ever find your self alone and in need of help (emergency) you can always reach me at 215-679-**** Its my home number. But please only if its life or death I can't take any more games I'm to fragile now. My cell is changing if I can't have you then I must move on. Goodbye, Skittle-

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 6/14/2009 12:54:42 PM
Its funny you know a girl can say all the right things... She really had me going there she had graduation last night. She wanted to see me today and all of a sudden she goes MIA then tells me Tom is getting mad shes talking to me its not fair to him bye. I don't get it. All these weeks shes been talking about US and wanting to see me and how tom doesn't treat her as well as I do and I need to give her time. Then this... Tom and I are meeting up he wants to go threw my phone it records all inbound calls. It has the last 3 months of jens phone calls about 6 or 7 hours worth a week. Just 2 days ago I was her number one bla bla bla she wants to meet me Sunday and get a body massage and she ended it with I love you. Yea hes going to ****ing flip. Its funny I'm meeting up with Bri tonight as well... A friend I guess, she had feeling for me a while ago I'll see how it goes. Shes not my type shes a tomgirl and I'm into the princes types but who knows. I need some thing new... I'm just not attracted to her... But its what ever at this point every one thinks I'm going to hurt her shes a V and a bit heavy set not huge but heavy and I just dont know whats what I'm at such a loss I mean could I love her shes there for me I mean... IDK God Jen was so simple for me to fall in love with and it wasnt complicated at first either we just happened. Now I am stuck dealing with a mountain of shit that never stops growing.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 6/7/2009 6:17:04 PM
umm... -Jon and Jens Father are friends. Her father helped Jon file a restraining order against Jen a few days ago. -Today I told Jen that her fathers been hanging out with Jon. I did this because her father "Steve" told her to stay away from Jon hes a prick and that he "her father" wants nothing to do with Jon either. (OIbviously her father is lying to her) -So Jen confronted her dad, he admited to it. (He didnt tell her about the restraing order tho, neither did I) -Steve Picked his daughter "Jen" up at 6 and said he was taking her to dinner. He invited JON! -They confronted Jen and told her about the restraing order and that shes going to court! -Jon knows I told Jen about his contact with Steve and it ended our friendship. -Jen and I were doing amazing (think marriage in a year) and now shes asking me to help her. -Jon had no reason to file the restraing order against her. She only texted him once in a blue moon (hi, how r u ect.) He knew I still loved her and was supposed to be my best friend. However he hates her so I guess he don't give a damn... -I have enough dirt on J to bury him behind bars for the next 25 years of his life. The question is... Is my life fit for TV? Like montel or jerry? Any shrinks on these forums?

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 6/3/2009 5:20:00 PM
Yep I got a text and then she called 2 mins ago before bed. She just don't get it I'm not going to be used by her any more

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 6/2/2009 8:44:07 PM
Well apparently sprint let me down shes still calling me and things were looking up she wanted to go out to dinner bla bla bla then she talks about us and wanting to be with me bla ba bla. Then she pulls the Jon card and says she cant see me or be with me if Jon wont talk to her because hes my friend and her ex and its just to awkward. today I went nuclear on her and I told her off again only this time i held nothing back. She said she never broke up with me she wanted time and I ended us (lie) and then she said she likes Tom allot and ** me and bye bla bla bla I said good off and die! I put my phone down I picked up my bottle of Everclear 190 and said good **ing ridens! Then a hour latter she calls with this innocent sweet and yet so sad tone and she says she don't want no yelling she just wants to talk. it was a I love you but I cant be with you you need to move on. I said great, good bye and hung up the damn phone 45 mins later. And so the saga continues... $50 bucks says she will call me tomorrow The funny part of all this.. Her dad Steve and Jon are meeting up tomorrow morning to go over a restraining order Jons filling against Jen. She doesn't even know its coming... Sure I could stop it like always but... well.. NAH!!!!!

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Do Cheaters Regret or Reform Posted: 5/29/2009 6:37:51 PM
I thought yea but I have been proven wrong. If you love some one enough you should be able to push another off of you and walk away... I did and I was plastered and had a broken heart at the time. So if some one cheats I'd say yea they will do it again.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/29/2009 6:33:35 PM
I never used a condom no. At the time when we were very actuive I was her one an donly man and she only ever been with 1 other and I know Jon is clean. So we felt safe she got tested anyway before we started. Now tho yea I wont go near her without another test and a few months of solid dating. Its funny she called last night didnt ask about me or nothing she called to **** about jon and then when I asked if thats all she wanted she said "I didnt have to call you I choose to" So yea I sent 2 texts after I hung up on her and hey were very clear and blunt. I loved her she ended us its over kinda texts. Well she didn't respond and I didn't care and then today at 10PM I got a call and she keeps crawling back. I got the I love you and I don't want you out of my life. I cant see you because of my parents but when I get back in the fall I am going to collage and I will have my own car and I can see you with out my parents knowing. bla bla bla She mentioned TOM a few thousand times so... Drum roll please!!! I Just enterd her number into my block list on my sprint account I am soo happy! *and soo upset thinking I just passed up a chance to be with her in the fall It is what it is tho Shes with tom and I cant keep getting hurt I need to move on. So hopefully thats the end of Jennifer. If she shows up at my place (she said Tom would bring her) I don't now what I'll do so if you see a new thread titled "Hey they got PC's in prison" then you know what happened...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/27/2009 10:01:57 PM
no I know I know. Part of me sees it as a challenge and I never back down from a fight. I want her and yet I want her to be normal I know this wont happen any time soon. I just need to work on me and wait and see what happens. Maybe I'll meet some one else maybe me and jen can be friends or maybe more then that only time will tell. Shes been diagnosed with manic depression so maybe medication will help balance her out... (fingers crossed) If shes on anything yet IDK.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/27/2009 9:40:37 PM
Thats just it I don't like my age there no fun lol I could be wrong but what I loved about her was her immature fun personality. She called it her heywired side. One minute shed be singing to mama mia the next shed be choking me to listen to the sounds I make when I tried to talk. She was just fun. Not very bright at all way below average but she was upbeat and happy. Its hard to describe she just was such a kid at heart and yet IDK just fun to be with. She could act 14 or 40 romantic or slutty she had every thing... sadly tho shes messed up in the head. As for the preg thing no one knows any thing. See jen was prematurely born and due to her size (5ft 89lbs) she has issues... I'm not going into details but shes very small every where and the chances of her getting pregnant is around 10% to 20% according to her gyno. Now she has very irregular periods were talking once every 6 or so months and her hormones are all over the place. So who Fing knows anymore. I was NEVER aloud to use a condom I would try but she would just hop on before I had a chance and shed just say "if you want to we can stop and put one on near the end) bla bla bla she never would let me crazy woman. Yea I know how stupid could I be but she was on the pill as well (Now I find out she didn't always take it). Now tho after being with 4 guys since me I can tell you this much. If I EVER hit that again it will be with a RUBBER The real question is am I really that lonely... Face it everyone.. I'm alone and hurt and she can make things all better at least for a while so if I don't find someone soon to keep me grounded and Jen don't push me away its going to happen.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/27/2009 7:41:12 PM
I had a really good call with her yesterday as I posted. However last night she texted me I hope you feel better bla bla bla but ended it with "do me a favor tell Jon I miss him". I didn't respond and I ignored her texts today and then a hour latter she blew up my AIM (it sent them to my mobile then she blew up my phone and then called. I never answered. .. I don't know if I'm going to ignore her for good or not but right now shes with a sex afender named Tom and thats all I need to know. If and when she cleans up her life I'll be here. I do still love her and would come to he rescue in a heart beat but right now she don't need me she has Tom and god only knows who else. Besides why call me and act all hurt if I ignore her I'm not her man..

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/26/2009 9:31:27 PM
Oh she knows what I did for her she even admited to screwing up today. I just know shes still with Tom and she even said shes not getting to into him it wont last so what ever. I'm doing my own life now and when she comes back from her vacation if I'm still alone maybe I'll see what we have if she improves or settles down. If not then I'll try to be friends... ok its jen so friends with benefits I guess what it comes down to is she is messed up and I'm still in love with her. I know I cant have her right now and that much I have accepted. I just don't want to say Bye to her for good not yet. I still have feelings for her and I'm too alone to get rid of her. Do I make sense or am I making the wrong choice?

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/26/2009 11:59:27 AM
She texted me "Hey" at 845 this morning I guess she regretted last night and what she said I never responded tho. She called 1 min after her school let out talking all nice and sweet and sounding concerned for how I am doing. She asked if I was talking to any other girls yet I said no and she asked why not. I just told her I want to work on me for now and I still need to get over her. She then went aww and started talking about US and how she misses my hands and the rubs I used to give her. Then she said she just don't know if its worth trying us again. THEN she mentions Tom and how she has to say shes sore just to get him to rub her for 5 mins. I take it shes still with him... what ever I guess if I play my cards right I could see her again in some way shape or form but that 11 min phone call just ripped my heart out and yet made me happy... Whats wrong with me?

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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first love, does it fade? Posted: 5/26/2009 12:08:48 AM
How was the relationship ended? For a while it was easier for me to remain in contact with Jen and she helped me move on knowing that she was there in my life gave me some comfort. Love changes you will always love your first I'm not sure if that love will fade in time or not. I hope it does or else I'm screwed too

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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first love, does it fade? Posted: 5/25/2009 11:52:58 PM
well I am still dealing with my first love breakup I am finding it easier to turn all my feelings for her into hatred. Luckily for me my first turned out to be a super slut 5 months into the relationship and tore my heart out with a few abortions so its going to be much easier for me I'd assume. However like you I belive I will compare all other girls I ever meet to Jen and what we had at first. May I ask as to why you no longer talk?

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 11:25:30 PM
hey hey I just got done taking out the trash I got rid of Jen today for good (I'll hear from her again but I'm not going to bother to respond thats for sure, she loves Jon and I was just used. What ever we had at one point may have been real but she killed it not me) Jons back from his vacation so he has cell service and just had to hit me up ASAP bla bla bla I didnt get around to figuring out what to do with his ass yet. Tom, well poor Tom got what was coming to him (I swear I didnt lay a hand on him) tho hes royally F'ed up Rob and I concluded our business deals today, I wont associate with any one who still deals drugs and heroin. I can live with drinking socially and cigs but other then that its just not worth it. So yah to me. 3 down in one day That leaves me with one so called good friend Jon who is there for me when I need him but still he screwed my girl so IDK about him and one distant friend who's honest but a 24/7 busy man he don't have time to chil daily so hes not really there for me... Oh well at least its mostly over with...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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When eating pu$$y Posted: 5/25/2009 10:53:55 PM
Its funny my EX always tried to push me away then would yell at me for stopping lol

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/25/2009 9:33:52 PM
it doesnt make sense we spent nearly a year together all the things we done all that time we spent and she acts like I'm meaningless its worse then I thought she doesnt care at all about me! What the heck happend I remeber the good times like they were yesturday all thoes aww come here babe all that kissing and cuddling thoes long nights till 3am on her parents couch. The make outs in Hollister... Every thing we did the cooking the cleaning the baby vids, church family fun nights the weekend getaways the family dinners the hospital trips the pregnancy scares the sex every thing! And what she just goes on with her life like it never happened all happy and dandy with her **ing family and her sex friends while I'm here with a broken heart! wtf did I do to deserve this from her?!?!? I treated her better then any man ever will! No one would take the abuse and BS that I went threw to be with her. Her entire family told her she was a slut and trash and I and I alone sat there and held her as she cried and went on about how she needed me, then went on about Jon and how she misses him and I still **ing stayed by her side WTF!!! I should have left her after she cheated on me the first time and now here I am at 12:30 in the morning spending another night up alone and miserable just like every other night while she sleeps comfortably... How can all that time we spent together have no meaning for her!

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/25/2009 8:19:30 PM
I texted her "Happy memorials day I hope your ok! Nite Nite" she said "Thanks" 45 mins latter. Then instantly texted Jon "I know we all parted. things r good 4 me. i keep in touch wit josh. and think of u. i hope we can be friends again in time. best luck in everything." Jon FWD that text to me as soon as he got it. Then she texted me "How r u and j" I said "Im ok tho I miss ur calls..." she said "Yea" I asked her "R we going to stop talking" her response "IDK. i mean j wont talk to me so maybe 4 the best yea" Thats it. There you go... **** HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! URGH!!!! I love you josh bla bla bla J wont talk to me bye.. WTF she don't give a damn for me any more she just wants me to make Jon talk to her. Its funny he called and asked me if its ok for him to call the cops and report a breach in the restraining order. I told him do what he wants I'm done with her. She just killed every last hope I had for us and managed to turn all most all of my love for her into hate. Good job Jen!

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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What is your number one fantasy? Posted: 5/25/2009 3:46:15 PM
uhhh My fantasy was to be tied up and roughed up by my girl, you know rough sex, biting choking ect. It actually was better then I thought happened in her bed room while her parents were home lol It added to the excitement... hers was me eating a ice cream sundae off of her and some rough sex/rape.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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why dont most men keep it trimmed ?? Posted: 5/25/2009 3:18:33 PM
IDK I always kept my self bare for my ex. Tho in reverse I wish shed of kept a little landing strip or some thing just because shes the same size of her 12 year old sister and it made me feel like a pedophile being with her.

Josh.1985

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 2:02:03 PM
Oh no it wasnt like that I helped her that night but that was it. We just started to talk for a week then we met up with Jon his new girl Becky and Me and we had a campout. Jen and I talked for 3 more weeks before I seen her again I went to her house and we had a romantic dinner and the first kiss. 2 days latter we met again and hung out as a BF and GF and we just were together. I made her wait a month to take my V. I didn't date a whore she was that innocent sweet girl when I met her. Other wise I would have never been with her. Its what she loved about us our Sex Tree as she called it. It wasn't until people started to break us apart that she went physco. She rebelled against her family told her mom she was moving in with me she even walked around her house and called herself Jennifer S. My last name Her mom went nuts and then every thing went down hill. I wouldn't be in love with her still if we didn't have some thing great at one point. I had no intentions of using her I didn't even think I had a chance with her I figured she was way out of my league. Even Jon thought it would never get that far or even a first date. I think thats why he gave me his approval.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 1:54:20 PM
Yea thats the sad reality of all this. I feel that if we weren't fighting and going down hill Tyler wouldn't of had a chance and Jen still regretted it and came crawling back. That was painful but fine she was semi right we wernt doing that great. She didn't go slut with the rest until her mom told her I was too old for her and started to inter fear. I know Jens easy but I did have her faithful and to my self for a good 4 or 5 months it was the other elements that destroyed us. I mean yea if she really wasn't soo messed up she wouldn't have gone slut and there wouldn't be a problem but shes selfish and has no morals. She likes****and sadly right now shes not aloud to have mine so shes taking every guy she can get. If her mother didn't know about Jen wanting to marry me or the apartment I'd be with her right now on the beach at least having a good time. Basically Jen bailed on me when mommy said no and thats when Scott and Jon and Tom came into the picture. Jen should have said I cant be with you I wont go against my mother. Instead she said I love you and we talked and played pretend relationship.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 1:35:54 PM
Well shes NOT pregnant I held the damn stick my self he claims she must have tried to put it in her.. Its all too much for me I want Jen back plain and simple and Jon, Rob, Tom, Scott, Tyler, Mat, Luke are all about to disappear I cant take this shit any more. Shes been quiet for 4 days now and shes in another state. In 3 months she will be back for good and I'm going to go door to door if I have to and find out whos messing with me. Me and Jen were PERFECT every one knew Jen loved jon still he was her first duh! Ok, but we were perfect together until Jon started to talk to her and then she cheated had a one night stand with Tyler then I took care of her did the abortion thing and she asked me to take a chance on her and I was going to till her mom got in it and said shes to young then she went whore behind my back. Tyler and Scott and Tom knew Jen was with me as well as Jon they ALL KNEW she had a man for almost a year now and that she asked me to marry her. As far as I'm concerned they deserve to take a ride in my trunk. This is how it is: Jon= loved her at one point, hated her mother and bailed. Hooked me up with Jen Tyler= Showed a interest in Jen, me and Jen were fighting she had a one night stand and regretted it. I took care of the rest and forgave her. Scott= Were friends then made out and she told me. She took me to meet him and he thought they were dating. I left her with him and went home. She broke up with him to be with me. Then ****ed him then went out with me one last time to say goodbye over dinner he called she told him he said FU bye. She stayed with me. Jon= started talking to her because I asked him to to help me solve this Scott crap and ultimately they hooked up. Luke= Beach boy toy Mat= unknown element, meet him once they made out before my time hes scared shitless of me and my .38 so hes not a issue. Basically Jen settled down with me started to get over Jon I was her second BF and now shes gone super slut I guess shes lashing out and in 3 months I may have a shot with her if she settles down. But all this guy crap and my so called friends has to STOP! I need to make a choice and clean up this mess once and for all. I can keep one... Rob, Jon, or hopefully Jen. Take a guess who I will pick...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 1:21:25 PM
Yea I'm sure. Jon was Jens first and Jen is STILL madly in love with him. He went as far as a restraining order. If Becky and Jon didn't fall apart so much I don't think Jon would have even gone near Jen. He hated to even talk to her he really hates the girl. But hes a man whore and Jens a beautiful petite girl thats right up his sex alley. Basically shes the ultimate Toy the girls a world class **** and sadly she knows it and shes gone whore for now.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 1:10:29 PM
it started out ok. He dumped her twice after a year and a half relastionship and she needed help she was locked in her basement he didn't give a shit so I went and thats how we met. My friend Jon just told me hey she could be a good learning experience for you go ahead and use her, ** her and dump her. Yea... Ok how about not! We fell in love and the rest is history. Then she cheated on me then asked me to marry her then did what ever with jon again then scott then she dumps him to continue to be with me then while were playing dating she plays "friends with Tom" a guy who was a friend of mine that I knocked the out for sneaking up on me and jen while we were "Busy" and touching her. So yea ok ** my life... Lesson learned, People are POS

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 11:28:38 AM
BTW a big thanks goes out to any one who takes the time to read this I know its allot

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Friendship questions Posted: 5/25/2009 11:21:34 AM
Sorry long post but this is my biggest issue in my life and I need this sorted and I cant figure out what to do any more. I have a few questions I have been cleaning up my life so to speak and allot went down this past week and weekend and now I have a few choices to make. I was wondering what your thoughts were on having a best friend whom you been through allot with good and bad and sadly well illegal I know that when the shit hits the fan hes a phone call away and always there when I need him... but... My EX told me he had sex with her 2 times while we were dating. I actually had his phone when she texted him about it! I aproched him (this was over a month ago) and he was shocked looked right at me and said tell me now if you believe her. Now I trusted him with my life and Jen was a liar at times so I said no I don't. We talked about it all day and time went by... She said she was pregnant with Jons kid a few weeks latter and he called me up and said we need to talk. He said it was just once and only a 3 min BJ in his car she said she needed to talk to him about ME and he was already at the mall Jen said stuff about his girl Becky and how she didn't love him bla bla bla and then went down on him. Now Jon lies to almost every one hes a good friend or so I thought and were like 2 peas in a pod but now I have trust issues and I cant help but think that he really did have sex with Jen while i was dating her. She is his ex and her first so IDK... Ok so thats the first question what do I do with him? Second question, Jens has been calling me 2 times a day for the last few weeks she called Thursday when I was with a old friend that I havnt seen in a year. He took my phone and said hi to her and chatted and then she had to go. He took her number from my phone and said hed talk to her and try and fix us I was like wtf umm... Well he called her a few times and Jen hasn't talked to me since! He told me she said some ones been saying some things to her about me that she doesn't believe but she isnt sure and now shes not calling or texting. I texted her asked how she was yesterday she said "Fine" and didnt respond to my next text so I let it be. Its been 4 days now and I think some ones messing with me. I only have 2 friends left Jon and Rob my other friend Tom was dating her and she dumped him Thursday. So how do I figure this one out? Whos back stabbing me? Jon wants me and Jen over with he knows we will keep going back and forth and its bothering him either he wants her again (I doubt it) or it bothers him I been with his EX or he fears I wont get a apartment with him if Jens around. Rob on the other hand after talking to Jon thinks I should let Jen go for my own good but called yesterday saying don't worrie we can fix this and get Jen back. At this point I want to bury my head in the sand! Oh and Jen gave Rob her beach house address since he was going to the beach last night and he called and asked if he should stop by and say hi... Hes 42 with 3 kids and a wife why would she give him her address... Is any of this making sense I know I must seam like a total ****ing idiot at this point my lifes soo screwed up.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 40 (view)

How to handle a broken heart. Posted: 5/24/2009 10:40:09 PM
wait I just read your first post wtf... Dude I got cheated on 3 damn times and my BEST FRIEND got a BJ from my Fing girl. Granted I have all there home addresses and numbers and I did dislocate my friends jaw I still don't see how blaming the dude for your girls actions is appropriate Yea ok.. If he knew she had a man yea thats disrespecting you theres a man code here but its just as much her fault as it is his! I been down this road heck my girl intentionally took me and my friend to meet the one kid just so we could kick his ass and you know what, I told him good luck and left my girl with his ass. Kicking some ones ass doesn't change nothing and now a days you never know what will happen afterwards.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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How to handle a broken heart. Posted: 5/24/2009 10:30:33 PM
I'm still going through it my self and it doesn't help when she calls you a few times a day saying I love you bla bla bla either then silence for 3 days... I'll tell you this much tho what does help is a good bottle and a few underage drunken girls! wait... never mind No to be honest I don't even sleep any more I'm up 24/7 thinking about her and thats not going to change any time soon. Try to just get out and do some thing crazy! Just remember to wear dark clothing and use gloves and always wear a old disposable pair of shoes! Keep your Cell OFF! Getting a call while going about your business or a text will screw you over most phones run a GPS now full time for weather reports ect. Oh and DON'T use YOUR own car... If you have to swap plates with a similar make model car for the night... Good Luck!

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 137 (view)

Men receiving oral Posted: 5/24/2009 9:24:39 PM
oral sucks lol Ok I just never had good oral I guess but damn coco butter and those little hands and thats a different story omg But really I never got off on a BJ before but if I did I wouldn't care what she did with it. Just as long as she doesn't try to insert it into any umm special place... yea...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 179 (view)

Do you suffer from feeling out of their league? Posted: 5/24/2009 7:29:45 PM
I think humor can bridge and cross all league boundaries

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 13 (view)

Windows7 Rc, have you got yours? Posted: 5/24/2009 7:27:58 PM
Yea windows 7 isnt that bad

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 177 (view)

Do you suffer from feeling out of their league? Posted: 5/24/2009 7:22:02 PM
Yea actually I have felt that way my first (and I didn't know this) is a Patron she has a 7 million dollar trust at the age of 18. When I met her I just seen a beautiful casually dressed fun loving little girl then all of a sudden I got to her house and holy shit I don't belong! The first time I went out with her family to dinner there tab was in the $500 dollar range and I nearly shit my self they do that a few times a week. But hey I was lucky in a sense that she wasn't looking for a rich guy just some one sweet and romantic that would love her for her and not that 10 star ass. I always felt like I didn't belong due to my bank roll and the fact that she was so damn cute but hey she didn't mind my weight and she loved me for me so I was happy while it lasted.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 119 (view)

How did your parents find out that you were having sex? Posted: 5/24/2009 5:31:59 PM
When I left her house I had a leather jacket and my girls bra got hooked onto the inner stitching and it took a ride with me. My mom found it on the coat rack the next morning.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/24/2009 1:25:55 PM
I'm familure with BPD I know what I need to do in regards to Jen. I just can't do it... The truth is she cheated and we fell apart but shes not a full blown case of BPD she and Jon "her first" lasted a year and a half he just left her because she wasn't deep enough for him she was more like a rich piece of ass with no personality or so he says. I seen more in her then that I still do. Its just we were fighting over little BS that was meaningless and then she just drifted away to Tyler and when we got through it we were stronger together. Then came the (take a chance one me, marry me) and the apartment and her mother ended us. She hooked Jen up with Scott and she did all she could to push Jen away from me because I was a threat. I tried to play nice with mommy and then Jen got pissed at me saying I was dating her mother not her. Any way yea Jen has problems but shes not THAT bad she just is roaming around she cant be with me shes 18 and lives at home mommy says no so its no. Shes not going to sneak around her mothers back she needs her for her car insurance, summer vacation, cellphone, food gas ect. I just have to move on some how I guess... And me well I'm hooked on one girl that I just cant let go of I wish to god shed call me say I Fing hate you leave me alone. Instead of the I miss you I love you but I cant be with you right now crap. I sit here miserable and cant even eat while shes on vacation with her beach friends and no doubt her boy toys. Maybe I need a hooker

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 97 (view)

My gf’s crazy fantasy Posted: 5/24/2009 11:30:30 AM
actually its kinda easy I been there and done that with my EX. Just make sure she doesn't know its coming! I took her camping and I went for firewood and I fell and made it sound like i was hurt. She came running to me and my buddy was there he got her from behind with a sack and just tied her up and left. I then took over from there she had no idea what was going on until it was all over and believe me it was kinda fun! Tho I never heard the end of it...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/24/2009 11:12:33 AM
I guess thumbs wont work on these forums http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9435/8542055217orig.jpg http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7001/8587376082orig.jpg I just feel like I been spoiled by a rich brat with a great body and now I know that I may find a girl who will treat me better in the long run but she will never compare to my first love and sadly my first was my dream girl.

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/24/2009 11:09:24 AM
No I hear you all I just keep holding onto those first 4 or 5 months of heaven we shared. I know its foolish but I'd give anything to have them back. Part of me hopes that when she returns in 3 months we could start over and maybe this time it will work I always hold onto hope with out it I'd be lost. I know theres plenty of other woman out there its just she was very unique and no one will ever come close to replacing her I mean idk I just feel like I will always hold every girl I meet to her and no one will ever come close to making me as happy as I once was. I can still hear her voice in my head her "aww come here, baby I'm sorry" she was soo damn sweet and cute and lovable and I thought innocent and now I feel like I been spoiled and ruined for life. Its not like I'm ever going to find another girl like her again... Its kind of like a guy and his car... I drive a 98 Cadillac Eldorado ETC and I love it! Some day she will leave me and I will need a new car but I know a Kia wont make me happy. I mean I'm used to a Caddy... The Kia may get me from point A to B and it may be semi reliable but its just not the same the class is gone. I will never be happy driving it period! Now look at me I'm not a very attractive guy or at least I have low selfesteam. Now look at what I fell in love with I mean I doubt I will ever find a girl like her again. Her personality was out of this world and physically she was the girl of my dreams. [URL=http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cellphone089.jpg][IMG]http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5135/cellphone089.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8587376082orig.jpg][IMG]http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7001/8587376082orig.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Maybe I'm just looking at this the wrong way but I doubt I will meet another 5ft tall 89lb dink any time soon with a Ferrari and if I ever do I doubt she would even give me a second thought. I know it sounds like I'm thinking with my other head its just shes what I fell in love with my very first every thing and shes the one who broke me in. Thats what I'm going to want for the rest of my life now. I mean I love the mall and Starbucks and fine dinning and MTV and Lifetime and smelly sprays OMG see what I mean she ruined me! I'm not even a man anymore...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 530 (view)

Re: Most Wild Place You Had sex! Posted: 5/24/2009 10:13:05 AM
Well it may not be wild but we used to have sex at my girls parents house and her sister and brother would come downstairs all the time. We just had a blanket over us with the lights off and she kept her face covered with a pillow till they went up Actually that was a daily thing lol Gota love living rooms

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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How can men stop having feelings so quickly? Posted: 5/23/2009 9:43:44 PM
Well it depends on the man from my own personal experience if the man is hurt enough and theres another woman there for him its quiet easy to move on. Some just hide there emotions and pretend to be moving on. Others just sleep around and figure loves to hard anymore. You really can't group all men as a single entity were all very different from one another. But the bottom line is if some one can say bye break up and be done with you for good then I'd question if they really had feelings for you...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/23/2009 9:21:56 PM
Is there any hope for me and her? I mean she broke up with me soo many times now and every time she calls me back saying sorry or I love you or heck, hold on AIM chat log lol Tell me what is going on in her head I need a girls view on this. The log is from last Sunday since then she called every day up until Thursday night then silence. Keep in mind she broke up with me a week before this chat... JenJones (552 PM): i am going to my cousins graduTION midgardpimp (5:35:13 PM): I hate graduations i didnt even go to my own lol midgardpimp (5:35:27 PM): I only wanted to go to yours well for you lol midgardpimp (5:35:30 PM): I cant stand them JenJones (5:35:42 PM): lol they r so much fun JenJones (5:35:46 PM): u r boring JenJones (5:35:57 PM): but very romatic midgardpimp (5:35:58 PM): hahat hanks midgardpimp (507 PM): yea I suck I guess JenJones (523 PM): no u r sweet JenJones (526 PM): and i love u midgardpimp (557 PM): well maybe in time I can take you out with the band midgardpimp (529 PM): if you can escape from your family for a weekend that is. JenJones (536 PM): yes JenJones (544 PM): do u still want to make love t me JenJones (552 PM): or did that go away midgardpimp (556 PM): do you really think we ended for good? JenJones (513 PM): yea i thought we all were done JenJones (556 PM): i want to make love midgardpimp (505 PM): do you still want me? JenJones (521 PM): carry me to your room and slowly work my clothes off JenJones118 (523 PM): and yes midgardpimp (523 PM): could you call tonight? JenJones (537 PM): yea BTW she never called and that night she wen tout with tom to Hooters... errr... Now shes broken up with him and niot talking to me... I'm at a loss here girls HELP!!!

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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How bad is it? lol Posted: 5/23/2009 9:09:42 PM
haha thanks I suck at this. Is there any thing I should add about myself?

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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How bad is it? lol Posted: 5/23/2009 8:57:04 PM
lay it on me I rewrote it many times I just don't know how to sum me up.. Maybe I should just say Honest caring and a complete idiot IDK I mean what does one say in a summery of ones self...

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/23/2009 8:03:44 PM
Its just wow I mean we cooked together we went to church together we were 100% our selfs when we were together then all of a sudden she cheats then asks me to marry her then goes super slut over night! Its funny her dad told me to save my self and stay away from her shes not worth it bla bla bla he thought I was with her for the money and her body when I all really cared about was her. Well she hasn't called me since Thursday still nothing today she told Rob a friend of mine happy Bday and said to say hi to Josh (why all of a suden after she breaks up with Tom she cant call me idk) but I do know she will call and thats what scares me. Heres a question... My best friend her first love ( I was her second) got a BJ from her a month ago when we were still together. My other friend Tom went into hiding after he told me shes trash to leave the whore alone then turned around and dated her. My last good friend Becky My best friends ummm EX ( I know its messed up) got soo upset over what happened with Jen she flipped on her and told me I was a Fing idiot and she and Jon went sour so shes out of my life as well... WTF I lost all 3 of my close friend over 1 girl... WTF is going on! Well Jon is still around but I can't trust him so whats the point... I don't even know how to restart my life I'm unemployed from my ankle injury and my so called friends all did my girl wtf... Seriously is there any good people living near me?

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

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Some help me make sence of this Posted: 5/23/2009 2:51:15 PM
Hey thanks for that I know what I should do or at least what my mind say its just every one tells me she never loved me I was just being used but the way she shook and cried in my arms the twinkle in her eyes the things we been threw and the times we shared. I can't just throw that away believe me I tried and every time I start to wake up and face the facts she calls with that sweet innocent voice and she talks about us and missing my rubs and wanting to see me and oh god it starts all over again. I don't think I will ever stop caring for her and honestly she isnt that bright I don't want to talk bad about her but any guy that shows her interest now gets some and shes not into protection at all shes been in and out of the hospital 2 times now and its tearing me apart just watching her destroy herself. I mean that was my baby my precious my yum yum. What the hell happened she died her hair black got a tat and a few more piercings she hooked up with Tom a crack head ex con and she even stopped bathing daily. When we were together shed shower 3 times a day it was rediculas its like she literally just don't care any more! Our last phone call was 2 days ago and she told me shes done caring wtf shes only 18! Her family is nuty her mom and dad are divorced she sees a therapist and well Jen was premature by 3 weeks. We all thinks she has some issues but god wtf! Now shes down at the shore with her rich grandparents and there 7 mil beach house and I bet shes having fun not giving a damn while I'm over here throwing up every thing I eat and whats worse is other then 1 friend I'm all she really gots and she wont ever leave me alone unless I change my number but God I don't want to do that but I dont want to hear her say she loves me either. This isnt love its God awful she asked me to marry her and tried to get pregnant with my kids ( I didn't know) I'm going nuts!

Josh.1985

Joined: 5/13/2009

Msg: 61 (view)

What is your expectations of the perfect man/women for you??? Posted: 5/23/2009 2:37:21 PM
The perfect woman for me? To be honest all she would need to do is love me for me I never had any expectations of anyone other then that... Were all human and we all make mistakes but if she loves me for me then thats all that matters no matter what I'll always be there for her in return. I mean IDK were all different and we all have our issues heck I have a friend whos been with over 50 girls in the past 3 years he practically has 3 or 4 girls at all times. Hes just looking for that perfect woman for him and he wont ever find her... If a girl will truly love me then thats all I need any other drama or BS that comes with her I can deal with just as long as she stays my baby.

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