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joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Must have job, car, house...are they after my cash? Posted: 2/9/2007 11:20:21 AM
Warning:::::: becareful my fellow nay sayers, women are kicking our asses now in education, actually all over the map, the tide is turning at an enormously fast rate, soon It might be us,,,looking for a woman that can support. Just the facts.

joeandgarcia

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Looks really are everything.... Posted: 2/1/2007 4:52:43 PM
Loveless,,,,I just looked at your profile and noticed it was pretty negative, from the start to the finish, First off, I think women ( and healthy men) are attracted to what you have, not what you don't have,,,what I mean by that is,,,,Don't say you are lonely or don't have friends, that just puts up warning signs that you have not matured emotionally. Tell the world (pof world) a few of your positive things and what you want. First you have to make peace with your self.....It sounds like you could use some cheering up in that area. Good luck.

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Father/Daugher relationship- - - Need some advice please Posted: 1/31/2007 4:54:05 PM
THis is very big,,don't let anyone rush you into forgiveness, wait until you can really see trust, until you can see that his changes are real. The most important thing to remember or think on for a while is this,, your father and his bad behavior had nothing to do with you, he was being a self centered fool, but you were just in the scene. Give this a little more time, watch him closely, let him know you are watching him closely and maybe this is just another scheme. My final thought is, this is very hard but if you eventually forgive your father and make peace with him, it will be the biggest thing you do in your life, If you hold onto the anger, hurt, disapointment and betrayel, it will be the worst thing you do, for your life and your childrens lives. Yes, this stuff can make you sick, it makes many people sick, it would be a good time to find a good therapist, a good therapist can really make this transition a good and positive one. Never, never, never, settle for a average therapist, it is the same as going to the brain store and saying , hey mister, I want to buy a brain for myself, I have 5 dollars, can I buy a really crappy one?.

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Does an illegal immigrant deserve the same respect as a legal immigrant/citizen? Posted: 1/29/2007 5:07:30 PM
As I read through all the post I have to say this, I stand on my first post, that we need to keep illegals out, and then respect everyone, respect all people, but after reading some of the white racist, lunatic, ramblings on this thread I think I changed my mind,,,,, respect all people, thats what counts, love everyone, strive to understand everyone before you ever think of judging them. Prejudice and hate is in every country and race, but when white people do it in this country it embarrases me, we have so much in this country to be thankful for, and when we act like mid evil ignorant nuts, it makes me sick to my stomach. To you people that have been slamming xemerican, you need to get a grip on reality. You sound like you are Hitlers puppets, speaking out of fear.

joeandgarcia

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Does an illegal immigrant deserve the same respect as a legal immigrant/citizen? Posted: 1/29/2007 4:02:54 PM
Pres. bush has created more splitting in every thing he touches, all people need respect, but we all need to follow the rules of a country, most countries require you and me to become legal citizens if we want to live in their country, for many good reasons. The law needs to continue to do there job and do it better, letting only legal immigrants to live in this country. We as humans need to continue to respect other peoples and cultures not letting government continue to use us and split us to move their causes of war. We have a strong and old connection to France and latin America, George Bush if the first President in over 100 years that caused serious friction with these people.

joeandgarcia

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collapse Posted: 1/27/2007 8:49:12 PM
He is right about China, it is growing faster than that actually, china is becoming a monster that will take a great miracle to stop it from eating itself up, it was a great enviromental disaster years ago, but now is increasing extemely fast in pollution, business, buildings and western progress, the stock market bubble of china is starting to put up red flags, when that falls or declines it will be a very interesting mess to all concerned. The author of this thread makes a good point, and we all need to take personal responsibilty the best we can to see things get cleaned up, stop wasting and improve recycling.

joeandgarcia

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why were vietnam vets spit on and iraq vets praised thats not fair. Posted: 1/27/2007 8:41:48 PM
I agree with the author of the thread, but we should never take it out on the young people that are in the trenches no matter where they are at or what they are doing, it is the politicans that put them their that need the fog knocked out of their heads. Hoorraay to all that served, and lets keep after the old rich drones that put them there. We need to spit on the amazing trio that started the mess in Iraq, bush, cheney, rumsfeld, I would like to see them all locked up. God bless all that serve.

joeandgarcia

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Blind folds during sex. Posted: 1/27/2007 2:46:35 PM
most pharmacy's carry blind folds for sleeping, they are well made and very comfy, if your girlfriend is waaayyy uptight you can tell her you use it for sleeping. BUT, being tied up and blind folded is soooo much fun.

joeandgarcia

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Cut ties with ex girlfriend or lose current girlfriend.. Posted: 1/27/2007 2:37:22 PM
If the woman you are with now is for real, if she is someone you want to invest yourself in, then by all means, cut from the ex. I think this is a no brainer, the question of it all, I think, is in yourself? where is your integrity? where is your honesty? why would you ask such a rediculous question? It sounds like you are not ready for a serious relationship.

joeandgarcia

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Is it ok for your friend(opposite sex) to sleep over, if you're dating someone. Posted: 1/23/2007 7:54:53 AM
I am with Scotty on this one,,message 3,,, turn it around, your girl friend is going out with an very attractive man to dance and get drunk,,,and then wooooopppsss, it snows so they spend the night,hmmmm, this would be upsetting to me,how many more of these nights would I have to put up with, what would be the next excuse for you to need to spend the night out drinking with attractive single person? So if it is just dating and nothing serious fine, but if it is serious then you need to get serious,,,that is if you really like this person? or do you just like playing games still? kind of sounds like your still into the games...... actually it sounds like your into the head games big time, and then blaming the other person for your lack of spine.

joeandgarcia

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Do You Men Read Our Whole Profiles? Posted: 1/22/2007 4:30:54 PM
uuhhh, no! I can't read, I just look at the pictures,,,,,,hmmmm

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Creative Men Posted: 1/22/2007 4:23:59 PM
Interesting subject, some artsy types can starve, some are better prepared for the journey they are taking(properly educated). To put them all in a bowl never works, I do think most creative types have the natural ability to go deep in a relationship, but then get bored quickly, some of them anyway. I think it is rare, but happens, to find an creative art person that is educated in the business end of his/her work and can keep their work in an approptiate time table, like 9 to 5. I think a new relationship is a wonderful place to put your muse, but with time, the muse goes hunting for a new adventure,,,poetry, art, whatever...and if the muse is strong it might be calling at awkward hours. I also think age and experience helps out in this area alot.

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Pitbulls Banned!!! Posted: 1/22/2007 7:48:37 AM
Get rid of em.....I have seen many nice pit bulls, but, almost everytime there is an gruesome or awful attack to a person or another dog it is a pitbull, what makes them so different is there ability to lock their jaws on whatever the hell their attacking, and once they lock in, they are locked, and there is no sense going on in their heads, their natural tendency to lock just takes over. there jaws are extremly powerful and usually does extreme damage. I love dogs, but where I live, most of the people that want to be violent will use a dog to do their dirty work, and most of them have pitbulls, it is unfortunate, but many people get attacked from these animalsl I also believe the owners need to pay a big price for attacks on people from their own dogs. people dont need laws here, government opening up dog farms and all that, they need to look at the truth, and start fasing it. Dogs should not attack, and if they do attack someone, the owner needs alot of jail time and pay for all injuries and losses.

joeandgarcia

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Political correctness: preference versus being superficial Posted: 1/21/2007 8:38:31 PM
Self esteem is a stange thing when looking for a partner, I think most of my life I just would wait and see who was interested in me,,,because I didn't think I was worthy to go after what I really wanted. So, maybe some of these people just know what they want, maybe their self esteem seems stange to you, it is a little strange to me, but I could use a little of theirs.

joeandgarcia

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Traits of a person likely to commit marital infidelity Posted: 1/21/2007 8:28:03 PM
This is a wide and dangerous subject,like,,the great river that sweeps some of us away, leaving friends on the bank, waiting for a spirit to return...ha, that was good. people mess around on their spouses for different reasons, I know of one person that did it just because he could, come to find out later, his wife was doing it to him before he was.... but most people do it out of hurt, and then revenge. THE END. Most therapist write funny little reports to make a name for themselves, first out of hurt, then with time, revenge. Many times if you have the ability to get to someones truth that is in a terrible marriage, they will tell you in private that they tried to leave their spouse but he/she threaten to kill themselves if they left, this causes a cycle of caos that is hard to stop, who are we to judge this? unless you have been there yourself...

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Is it wrong for a woman (married to an alcoholic) to have male friends online? Posted: 1/21/2007 6:13:57 PM
p.s,,pony girls message on 26 sounds a little better than mine, she sounds right on...

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Is it wrong for a woman (married to an alcoholic) to have male friends online? Posted: 1/21/2007 6:10:49 PM
Wow, life can give us some big whammies, Here is some tough advise, It sounds like when you ask about having men friends on line, you know you are getting something from them that you need to get at home but it is not available??? I think this kind of action will just make things worse! I think you need to deal with the big elephant in the living room, I think when you are in a situation like you are in,,,and you start getting male support it only gets worse, if the husband is becoming a worse alcoholic daily it will only get worse for everyone, it sounds like it is wayyy past time to deal with what is going on at home. Not dealing with what is going on at home will only make it worse, as you can tell some of us have been there done that. I strongly recommend you find a GOOD therapist to help you through this or a really good friend(female), Remember, there are a lot of bad therapist and a lot of misguided friends. I think you need to get out, and will need a lot of support doing it. You mentioned controlling and drinks alot, these are 2 ingredients for violence,,,you will need some help.

joeandgarcia

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Should I bring him with me OR NOT? Trip Advice NEEDED! Posted: 1/21/2007 12:08:39 PM
one of my best trips was by myself, you can have a very good time by yourself if you choose, it can be a great experience to be in another country (1000s of miles away from home) by ones self. I love to explore, rent a mopehead, they are a blast, anyway,look into the solo thing. one other tip, when travelling in another country be SURE, you are not travelling with some one that gets out of hand when drinking, most countries get a kick out of throwing drunk loud americans in the can for a few days. Check out the internet, it has lots of education and ideas about travelling alone!!! you can have a wonderful time, just be educated about the area, crime, where to go and not to go, and their laws,,,,,, or just take me, I am a fun person to travel with

joeandgarcia

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Obama's Muslim background Posted: 1/19/2007 8:26:39 PM
Hillary and George have a lot in common, neither one of them give a hoot about this country, this country does not have the brains to even know what a good man is, Obama does not have a chance, much like Dennis Kucinich, he is positive, talks the truth and can see the problem. Most citizens of this country Don't have a clue, maybe Georgre's terrible job will wake some up, but I doubt it, Iraq has left me very negative about humanity in the U.S. We need a man with muslim connections now more than ever, I dont mean connection by having a finger on a bomb, I mean a man with the ability to smooth things over and get us working with the muslim nations. All right then , I just convinced myself that I am going to back Obama, and I am going to start tonite,,you guys rock, thanks for the insight.

joeandgarcia

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Attack on Iran Posted: 1/19/2007 12:34:28 PM
Yites is right, what a mess we will get into if we attack Iran, U.S is great at building big guns, but terrrible at war, all we are doing in Iraq is building hatred and losing respect all around the world, we need to remember that we are in business with all these people and nations we are pissing off.

joeandgarcia

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would you date or marry a divorced woman?is another mans trash another mans treasure? Posted: 1/19/2007 11:10:44 AM
Wow, that is a pretty severe comment, so, it depends on the woman, usually anybody directly out of a relationship is a rec, angry, resentful, still blaming. When I look at my ownself, and compare myself to when I was 27 and just got married, to now,44 and been divorced for 7 years, I am much happier with myself and who I am, than when I was just married. I think alot of us get better with time and experience, but you are wise to know that not all do,, I remember a saying that hit me hard..." each experience either makes us bitter, or better". Was my ex my trash, no, not at all, she was a lesson to hard for me to learn(at the time) and so it is with most of us. Some divorced woman are wiser, more open, know how to help the relationship from getting stail, some divorced women are very angry and still wanting to behead a man, so the question is a bit general, so like most of the general questions, I give a general answer" it depends on the woman".

joeandgarcia

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Paid Dates Posted: 1/18/2007 5:02:35 PM
I think if you are not getting any dates you should, but use the experience to improve you socail stuff with women, get them to be as honest as possible, let them know you want them to be honest, if you are paying for someone to tell you what you want to hear, than that will make you unhealthy, one great thing abou the opposite sex is they can give us these wonderful hints on how to get our shit together. If I paid for dates I dont think I would share it, but, maybe I would, just do what is best for you, be true to yourself and your better health.

joeandgarcia

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confidence Posted: 1/18/2007 4:47:11 PM
I agree with bellybiter,,,just keep the faith and keep on truckin,,,,

joeandgarcia

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A question for the Guys...Ever been TOO BUSY TO CALL? Posted: 1/18/2007 4:24:52 PM
the only time that I have been to busy to call is when I started losing respect for her, then I would just forget, but if I dig her I never forgot or got to busy.

joeandgarcia

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Long walks... Posted: 1/18/2007 4:01:09 PM
aaahhhhh, long walks on the beach are the greatest, once I start walking I can walk forever, but thats just me, hey if you don't like walks thats cool, but for me it is much better than talking to a therapist and it just puts me in a good place, I love hearing the ocean, if it is warm enough I love taking my shoes off and feeling the sand on my feet, its all good. Maybe you should try mosying, just wander for a while. It does the soul good.

joeandgarcia

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addvice on how to approach girls Posted: 1/18/2007 7:21:56 AM
I learned everything I know from George of the Jungle, Ape read this out of a book to George "say whats a nice girl like you doing on a plane like this?". try it, I havnt had a date for a while but I think it works. If that dosnt work try, puffing up your cheeks and pounding your chest,,oh and dont forget to throw leaves up in the air. Now as far as keeping them around, thats easy, hand cuffs....some women it works better than others,,warning, when removing handcuffs some women become violent.

joeandgarcia

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Mini skirts, low riding jeans, .........and cleavage Posted: 1/17/2007 7:54:46 PM
o,k 100% honest, I only want them to dress with a mini skirt and showing cleavage for shock value, and some rebellion from my childhood, but really what I want in a woman is one that has the same idea as I do of what sexy is, a black dress, string top, stops about at the knees, and when we are driving in the car she folds her legs and shows some extra leg.. now to me that is very very sexy.

joeandgarcia

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Mini skirts, low riding jeans, .........and cleavage Posted: 1/17/2007 5:28:19 PM
This is not easy being totally honest on this one because there are so many different parts to it all, but, sexy dressed women do make me crazy, I really like going out with them,,here is what happens though if I am with someone that is really connected to my life,,,I work with professionals, and some of them are pretty uptight and when they see someone with their body parts showing or very sexually dressed they lose respect for them, and I want people to respect the person I am with, I dont know if I felt this way before I had a daughter, but I am more that way now, so honestly i will put it this way, if it was just a date, yes, dress as sexy as you want, but if we are going to be for real,,,, dress sexy but dress where people respect you, not just other men but where everyone respects you. thats just me, I like to see people express themselves and wouldnt want to talk anyone out of dressing wild. Maybe I just shouldnt date until my daughter goes to college, than I can be wild again.

joeandgarcia

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Normal Men Posted: 1/17/2007 3:02:49 PM
flo1968,,, you say you are seperated and your profile reads like a sailor, maybe that if giving some men the idea that is how they are suppose to talk back to you?

joeandgarcia

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attitudes about equality Posted: 1/17/2007 2:36:17 PM
The change of roles has brought a lot of confusion, it has brought on a very positive shift to humanity,,,but,,, it is causing a lot of pain in the process,usually when a change happens like this, pain is involved, any big social awareness change has brought right along with it tremendous pain, from civil rights to womens rights. I think the question is,,,what and how are you dealing with the change? what are you doing to help the change be a positive movement? what I have noticed is it doesn't matter if your a woman or a man, but if you are supporting the change with anger, you are not helping.

joeandgarcia

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BE YOURSELF: Good Advice or Total BS? Posted: 1/15/2007 7:01:04 PM
If your looking for the connection,,,then be yourself 100%, then when you find someone that likes you 100% you found a good match, the older I get, the more I see no reason to fake it. I think it is bad mojo for yourself to fake it, also. Probably what this life is all about is figuring out who we really are, how the hell are we going to do that if were faking it? Not that I havnt a few times in my life.

joeandgarcia

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Help! I'm INTO my financial advisor...don't know what to do????? Posted: 1/15/2007 11:52:13 AM
Hey,,,fwblooking,,I am on the bet, count me in, I will bet 360,000 Iraq dinars, I think that is equal to 1 U.S dollar, ha, I have been doing my home work. I think she should date him.

joeandgarcia

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Help! I'm INTO my financial advisor...don't know what to do????? Posted: 1/15/2007 11:46:12 AM
Each company is a little different in this area, a lunch is very normal, most companies frown on their employee's having sex with the customers and running,,meaning using customers to get laid, but most companies dont mind as much if it is real and they are actually respecting the customer and mabye even the M word. Actually many companies will fire the employee that is fratinizing with the customers, so if his intentions are good, I am sure it will not get him in trouble. Am I clear here??? in laymens terms,, if fred the employee out boinking all the customers? or is fred the employee falling on love with one of the customers? that is a big differense.

joeandgarcia

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A Few Extra Pounds Posted: 1/15/2007 11:33:52 AM
I just think honesty is always best, we all have some sort of flaw, mine,,,ugh,,is I got into debt and am digging out of that hole,,I let women know that right away, why? because I dont want to have to be squirming around about it, I dont want to have to play any games to survive with her, could it keep me out of a relationship until I get my shi- straight? yes, but that is o,k to, if you are 50 lb.s over weight then you should be happy with someone else 50 lbs over weight,,thats just the way I see it. SO, I dont think the author of this thread was complaining about over weight,,I think he was complaining about dis-honesty.

joeandgarcia

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Does any one have some advice???? Posted: 1/14/2007 8:21:02 PM
The great thing about love is it tears us to shreads, like nothing else can, this just makes me laugh, you say you are very needy and you just fell in love with a man that is going to be gone for 40 days??? yahoooo. Well bless the heavens because they just have given you a chance to fase your neediness,,your needyness will probably chase this guy off, so get hobbies, friends to talk to, more hobbies, find good books that interest you.Good Luck P.s Dont call him from a bar and tell him how much fun your having though!!! My ex use to do that when we lived apart and it made me crazy.

joeandgarcia

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walked over time and time again Posted: 1/14/2007 2:20:55 PM
p.s people raised around abusive people usually end up with them, I believe it is because they think the "KICk Ass" way of thinking is bad so they give it up!!! whatever you do, you need a kick ass attitude, it does not matter what or where, writing computer software or building roads, writing poetry!, dancing, boxing. Male energy has been connected to many bad things in our history, but you still need that strong male energy to not let life kick your ass. It is only bad if you do bad things with it. I think you need to get your mojo back.

joeandgarcia

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walked over time and time again Posted: 1/14/2007 2:14:22 PM
I think it is an important clue into our lives when we say that all our relationships have been this or that,,yes you need to change, or keep getting kicked around? Change is not easy, this does not mean you need to be an ass ho--, it just means you need to figure out a few things, there is usually something is us that brings on abuse, something we are doing, we are hiding from, or trying to hide from the one your with. I say take full responsibility, then you will see a change that you will like. These abusive people are our teachers, if we dont learn anything we will either get more of them or live alone. So the question is, what am I doing to let people THINK they can run over me? Now I am going to say something that is hard to hear, but listen real close and in a couple of days answer back,,,,Do you like to feel sorry for yourself? Many people do, and dont know it, that is a great place to start. Do you blame others for you not reaching you full game. or blame life circumstances? Do you like a little drama now and then? Hope this helps.

joeandgarcia

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What triggers you to run... Posted: 1/13/2007 9:37:56 PM
Almost all the woman I have dated, their fathers were hard drinkers, I think it was the times, but I try to see what part of this I play in the whole role or act, I think it is my lack of self confidence, not going after what I want, but only going after woman that come after me,??? or something like that, and not taking more responsibility on the hard things to change so I will have more self confidence. so there, I was honest with the therapist this time.

joeandgarcia

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What triggers you to run... Posted: 1/13/2007 9:31:47 PM
Oh my God, some of these threads are better therapy than a 100 dollar and hour therapist. O,K I think anger at men in general, because I feel there is no way to beat that, to out do it, so to speak, my ex's father was an abusive alcoholic, she didn't trust men, now when I hear a woman I am with say that all men are ***holes, I freeze. Cold women, any sigh of a lack of sex drive,,that scares the hell out of me. A woman that stays mad, dosnt want to talk, but just be mad. A woman that cant talk through a problem, but she freaks and runs out the door as soon as the truth of the problem is in clear view. O.K I feel a lot worse now, can I have my 100 dollars back??

joeandgarcia

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Can Lieut. General Petraeus get the job done in Baghdad? Posted: 1/13/2007 4:19:27 PM
It is a new kind of war, the old ways are out,,the only chance the muslims have against us is what they are doing, kind of a cat and mouse suicide bombing, we dont know who the enemy is,much like vietnam, when you invade a country you never know who the enemy is, you could be having dinner with him or he may be working in your police force, also like vietnam it could be the child with a bomb in the baby doll, it could be a 12 year old boy with a gun, and the list goes on and on, the point is, when you invade, the country becomes your enemy.

joeandgarcia

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Should you be dating if you have no time? Posted: 1/13/2007 4:03:43 PM
I got myself in the same situation as far as my own personal life,,when I turned 40 I just said no more exuses for my unorganized crazy life,,I cut up up the credit cards, went to business school full time(at nights) work more than full time to pay off old debts, and am trying to raise a daughter.(oh and last year I got braces on my teeth). So I know people can get very busy, it just depends is this a permanent life style for him?,,will he get more time soon? will this change? and make sure he wants to see you really really badly, that he just isnt that excited about you, that is the most important part here, in my crazy schedule I could still see someone twice a week and have sleep overs some times....so,,just dont get fooled.

joeandgarcia

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can we change somebody Posted: 1/13/2007 10:34:22 AM
You need to learn to love the imperfections of your partner, lover. People have been changing each other ever since adam and eve, it is a tricky business, but if your in a relationship you are always changing the person your with and they are always changing you, just by living with each other this happens, but in the business of really wanting to take head on some changes in another person here are a couple pointers. 1. Start from where they are at. This means no judgement, accept them first,,this will open their heart to you. 2. Change yourself and be changing when your are trying to change another or assist them in changing themselves. When you are not changing or growing and you tell someone else to, it just lacks power and feels of a lie. 3. No what you are doing. you are not changing someone like a tire, you are assisting them or guiding them to see differently, HELP them to look forward to the journey, that is the secret or one of them. 4. Why? what is your true intention? always go back to that, ask yourself why am I helping this person and be as honest as you possibly can, if,,,it is for your own gain, in any way, you are on the wrong track. why? because Kharma will always make greedy manipulation back fire, it just happens sooner or later. 5. Those that made the greatest change in history never asked for anything, they were change it self, if we look at those around us and can say no one is uplifted, profited, grown healthier for being in my presense,,we truly were not much of human beings.

joeandgarcia

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Is the war on terror equal opportunity or just for a select few? Posted: 1/12/2007 7:51:31 PM
epsilonbj,,,well said, right on,,and with that one truth I will go to bed.

joeandgarcia

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if you were a parent.... Posted: 1/12/2007 3:50:42 PM
Just thinking about this almost sends me to the emergency room,,sorry, I am focused on 3rd grade, I dont even want to think about that part yet,,I hear horror stories from my friends that have teenagers, studies show that in areas where teenage sex is out of control that the one thing they all had in common was a t.v in there own room, unchecked, seperated from family social system, unmonitored t.v watching and so on was a part of it all, parents and teens agreed. I dont know the answer but it is sure a scary question.

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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The Modern Democracy Posted: 1/12/2007 2:03:04 PM
No matter what or where,,sooner or later corruption slips its shady head in,,A strong force of human enthusiasm is required now, like many years ago when this country started and started the constitution,,we need men and woman again that can work for their country, not their party, or especially not their religion, but their country,,I believe strongly this country can shape up again,,you and I just need to get to work. I t is harder now because the population is larger, which brings in many factions,,which older countries struggle with that we put our noses up to,,but now we are moving into that same problem. What would motivate us is a voice for the country, we don't understand that in this country, vietnams constitution (communism) is not about the self, it is about the country, and taking care of the country,,they new very well that they needed that to survive over there, it is about the worker, the cow(that provide food and milk), the factories that provide the life nessaccaties that it does, that is what their constitution is about,,we need to realize that as long as we are only for ourselves we are doomed to fail sooner or later, and pres bush is a perfect example of self greed and where it will take us.

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

Msg: 247 (view)

Do Not Support 1st U.S. Army Officer to Speak Out Against Iraq War Posted: 1/12/2007 11:58:57 AM
about volunteering ,,, when these young boys grow up they believe the U.S military to be a place to go to, to be the good guy, to shoot or rid the bad guy, most of them are natioanal gaurd, they signed up to protect this country against natioanal disatsters and incoming attacks, NOT ever thinking they would be sent off to invade a country that has done no wrong to the U.S, and especially as big of a dumb ass mistake as to invade a muslim country in the midst of a bunch of other muslim countries that do not like U.S . what a cluster Fu_ _ we have created..The main thing is we all take responsibility and be more careful and get more involved...and I say hooray for the soldiers that have the courage to say" I will no longer kill these people, just because they done want me to invade and take over" . But more importantly for you soldiers on this forum,,the time will come,,like vietnam, when, those that got us out of vietnam were the heroes,,the brave, I suppose the soldiers that get us out of Iraq will be the only ones with a self,,they can live with someday,,really, look around, I see many of the soldiers doing vietnam all over again, because they dont believe down deep that these people should be being killed, and the thousands of women and children that have been killed and will still be killed while we are slinging our big guns around. Wake up, the christian muslim problam is huge,,way bigger than something a gun can ever cure.

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Fox News Ratings are in the tank Posted: 1/12/2007 9:14:51 AM
When I was in Mexico people down their thought fox news was a state channel, because it was so bias, when I told them it was not, they were shocked that us U.S citizens could be so gullable,,

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

Msg: 240 (view)

Do Not Support 1st U.S. Army Officer to Speak Out Against Iraq War Posted: 1/12/2007 9:08:32 AM
This thread sure gets my heart pumping, it has many emotional subject in it, what I want to say to the 2 Army men that spoke up on the first page of this thread is this,,I work for the government and am well aware of the "dont think" mentality they try to teach us, and in my career if we all listen to it thousands of abused children wouldnt get a chance because of the rediculous government system, why do they get a chance?? because we the people do think when the government tells us not to!!!!!! I hear the same problem loud and clear in the army,,who is the bravest in the army now? Is it the man that shows up to Iraq, sees it is a big lie and says" no I will not fight, I believe this is a lie and we are killing and doing more damage than good"?, the way I see it, that takes an enormous amount of courage, maybe you are to young to know history, but the largest crimes set upon humanity are the crimes of people thinking there government knows best, that they must do their duty to their government, that is the mind set that causes great destruction. If you are the least bit informed you know we are not fighting Iraq, we are now fighting the muslim belief system, we are fighting something invisible, we are fighting the tides. This is another vietnam, we are getting deeper, the death toll is rising on all sides, and now we have convinced ourselves that people should be happy when we drop a bomb on you..Thank you U.S for dropping that bomb on my nieghbor hood, for killing my uncles and relatives, now let me enjoy your democracy that will be destroyed the minute you leave, wether that is today or in 20 years

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

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Compliments, being a gentlemen and other forgotton traits.. Posted: 1/11/2007 9:28:52 PM
I work with a building full of professional women, and worse they are therapist, so most of them are very offended in any hint of a male out doing a female, in my life it just feels the need to treat a woman like she needs something is over, open a door,,most of them just look at me like I lost my mind, or say" uh I can open my own door thank you" and get huffy about it, the roles are all a little messed up where I live,,I am not sure what is suppose to be going on there and It appears that most of the rest of us are not sure either. honestly parts of me miss it and parts of me understand why it can be belittling, it usually represents your the weaker sex, you cant lift something,,lucky for you the man is here,,,that kind of stuff.

joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006

Msg: 10 (view)

Self Help Posted: 1/11/2007 9:22:30 PM
I think it is the real stuff, we dont want to look at, stuff way down deep that only our ex new about and told us to change and we fought them about it, maybe attitudes or money management, when we get older people pick up on this fast and dump us quick,,what some of us need to do is look long an hard at that.? maybe, or not.

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