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 Author Thread: Why do guys chase then flake?
 Vampiel
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Why do guys chase then flake?
Posted: 8/23/2009 1:46:35 AM
Well without more information, and just going by what you said... in short it sounds like the men that "catch your attention" are just looking for an ego stroke. Change the type of men that you give your attention back a bit and youll get different results.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Empathy...
Posted: 7/14/2009 7:23:29 PM
While its true we are instict driven, humans can dictate their actions through logic more so than other animals so the masculine and feminine areas become much more mixed. How do we define whats masculine and feminine this day in age other than sexual preference?

Aggressiveness? Independence? Courage? Kindness? Ambition? Dominance? Pity?

While you could assign certian traits to a label and call it a masculine or feminine trait, that same trait could also be seen in many females or males. Especially within modern society.

Men tend to mainly show whats considered masculine traits especially early on because women are more attracted to it, after a while he may open up to what could be considered more feminine traits if hes comfortable with his own masculinity. Although you could argue that its not really a feminine side, just as females could have whats considered masculine, so is it really male/female sides of each other?

I dont find women difficult to understand more than I would any random male to understand.

As far as your question is concerned I think it would be a strength for any person to have a better understanding of male and female perspectives. Knowledge is power no matter what it may be.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Singles Cruise
Posted: 7/10/2009 9:54:21 AM
Sounds like a lot of fun!
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 13 (view)
 
please share your blueberry recipes!
Posted: 7/9/2009 6:12:47 PM

Blueberry yummy.


I agree!!
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 2191 (view)
 
My Joke Thread.
Posted: 7/9/2009 6:11:37 PM
Those are some pretty good ones keep em coming!
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Lentil Soup...
Posted: 7/9/2009 3:36:21 PM

ALWAYS interested in anything with lentils.


I knew someone that put lentils in spaghetti.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Husband doesnt want her to drive
Posted: 7/8/2009 8:56:18 PM

Men who dont wish for their wife or woman to have such freedom, or independance, or self empowerment often feel bad about themselves and they fear secretly that if she gets too independant, too out there, she will not need him any longer or she will discover someone better then he is.

Then there are men who are just bastids who want a woman under their thumb like she is his possession - no point in me commenting on men like this - I might lose my cool exterior if I venture into that subject.


On of these two makes the most sense to me, probably the first suggestion which is what I was thinking. He is very clingy to her.


OP -- VERY controlling behavior actually.

But to answer your question as to the "why" someone wouldn't want their SO working or driving...if she was working and/or driving then she wouldn't be home all the time to coddle him, cook for him, clean for him, do his laundry and so on and so forth. As you said they've been married most their lives, so he's used to the routine. If that changes and she gets a job, then he'd have to fend for himself, of which I'd say he's likely not able (or willing) to do.

He probably imagined having to cook for himself, and clean himself, and do his own laundry and damn near had heart failure or shat himself. In his mind, it's probably "Daddy brings home the bacon...Mommy does the rest".


Thats an interesting take on it but she has supported them to at times to in the past.

Just a side note : no ive never even met her. We talk online and debate each other and talk about relationships in general. It just peaked my curiosity as to WHY a guy would do this to someone? I really dont get why someone would not want their SO to even drive?

I agree with you though cfn09 that some people jump to abuse, I dont think thats the case as far as physical abuse is concerned but I to think their is some mental abuse.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Husband doesnt want her to drive
Posted: 7/8/2009 7:53:57 PM
Im just curious if anyone could give me any insite on this because its somewhat confusing.

I know someone that has been married for a very long time. Her husband "lost" her car years ago. Meaning it was broke then he took it to a friends house to fix it and she never saw it again. All the time she is asking him to get another car going for her and she wants to drive and goto work. Although her husband doesnt want her to drive or work.

I realize this is very controlling behaviour but im just curious as to what would be going through someones mind for them to not want their SO to not work or drive? They have been married most of their lives. They do have two children but they are grown now and in college and dont live with them.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Should I Really Believe this?
Posted: 7/6/2009 7:05:24 PM
I agree there could be a few things going on here. Either he is over his ex but is just using her for sex and she may or may not know that. Or he is trying to play both of you, however she apparently knows about you and you about her so my guess is option A which would be he is using her for sex while looking for other women. The question becomes does she know hes just using her for sex and doesnt really want to come back to her, or is she ok with them just having sex and just wanted to mess with his new relationship for various reasons. Although there is a small chance hes actually no over her and is confused himself.

Either way hes not being honest, since he was busted hes now using the can we at least be friends to still try to make a connection with you.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Is this to much to ask?
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:41:56 AM
I disagree with JM, its not about faking interest but rather about being in a relationship and being understanding of the other person. Each other have their own needs and desires.

If one is going through school that is a major goal and the partner, while they may not be interested in the subject should be supportive simply because its important to the other person. To brush it off as 'its not my thing' is being dismissive to the person that should be the most important person in their life.

Its not about trying to change someone but simply realizing there are TWO people in a relationship with each others own wants and desires. While its better that your interests intersect for the most part, at times they wont, thats when the 'give and take' in a relationship comes into play.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 7 (view)
 
don't give up , there are some really great people on POF !
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:38:48 PM
Its just another outlet im sure some people get lucky and meet a good partner its nice to hear once in a while.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 539 (view)
 
shaved bald men
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:29:47 PM
What about semi-baldness.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Being picked up at work
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:17:47 PM
Oh jeez there is a woman at work that has tried to hook up with me for so long yes it became annoying. After frequently ignoring her advances over a few months she finally got the hint. I prefer not to just flat out say it to her since she sits right next to me and that would have made it a bit akward work enviroment but almost had to just to get her to back off.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Is it okay to want to meet new men when...
Posted: 7/4/2009 1:35:29 AM
Wow this is really a grey area and I admire your character Elena for wanting to be so up front with this. However we all have some personal things that could make most anyone simply look over us without getting to know us and weighing the 'negative'. We dont wear our negatives on our sleeve but if it goes into something more its certianly up to you to put it all out before it becomes more serious and they can weigh that after they get to know you. If you put it out there at that point they can choose from there after getting to know you and thats the best thing you could do. I wouldnt simply say it right off the bat though (our attention to new people is almost non-existant if we are turned off initially), but I would be up front with it after they got to know you a little bit.

Best of luck with your condition.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 12 (view)
 
What should I do?
Posted: 7/3/2009 11:10:36 AM

...then he gets frustrated and pulls away again.


Then its clear that whats already been mentioned is the case. He's not ready for a serious relationship and your the last person that would be able to help him to be in one because he views you as 'what he doesnt want' right now. He has to deal with his own issues for a while.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Need a little help understanding the workings here
Posted: 6/30/2009 7:57:17 PM
Are you looking at the top row? As stated thats more random and could show the same person more than once even if they didnt view you again...
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 36 (view)
 
To settle or not to settle?
Posted: 6/30/2009 6:51:01 PM

Not a silly question at all but if they delete your thread it might be for redundancy -- no, I see people who settled and although they seem to tolerate it well, it's my idea of hell on earth.


I agree but dont tell them that.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 34 (view)
 
Older woman, younger man...
Posted: 6/30/2009 6:33:13 PM

Reality Stinks...but I have been where you are...DATING younger men is fine, have a RELATIONSHIP with them is not. They aren't on the same maturity level.


I disagree ive seen some 25 yr old women that were more mature than some 40 yr olds I know. It just depends on the person.

OP You need someone that will give back and he seems incapable, you could stay friends but I think it would continue to consume your time and play with your emotions so I think you did the right thing.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
What is the qualities of a good man?
Posted: 6/30/2009 3:32:59 PM
Isnt this a question you should be asking yourself?
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 11 (view)
 
How come guys do this ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:38:22 PM
If this guy was such a nice guy its likely he didnt tell you what he was really thinking and just tried to be nice the whole time. Its good to find someone nice but blunt honesty is a valuable trait.

He probably didnt want to hurt your feelings during the date, its easier for him to just cut you off than simply tell you whats on his mind.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 8 (view)
 
I found the man of my dreams
Posted: 6/29/2009 4:50:43 PM
Best of luck for the both of you!
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Are guys here just looking for sex?
Posted: 6/29/2009 2:10:41 PM
I have to question the intentions of a man "warning" a woman that all the men on here just want to have sex. Sounds like he is trying to get you to trust him by using cheesy lines.

Short answer = yes

What percentage of woman on this website want to have sex = %99

What percentage is looking for a long term relationship = probably around %90. Most of us would like to find that one awesome person that rocks our world its just a matter of finding it. I dont think you would meet many people that would say if they met someone that was their ideal person they wouldnt go into a long term relationship with them. Course im just one guy so you can add that opinion to the thousands and take a tally.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 22 (view)
 
What would you prefer?
Posted: 6/28/2009 10:43:08 PM

really from just reading their profile. when u have very specific desires in a person and specific things u know u don't want. no questions asked.
like kids for example,
u might know for a fact u don't want to date a person who has kids and once u see that on their profile, its a turn off
and other things. basic stuff i guess


Well in that case I wouldnt want a responce if your in no way interested but perhaps you could make that clear on your profile? Put up some qualifiers of what your looking for such as you dont want someone with children, and expand on a few things that are to your taste.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 20 (view)
 
What would you prefer?
Posted: 6/28/2009 10:31:24 PM

I guess it makes sense to people that make dating and relationship decisions based solely on looks but personally I need to have a mental connection with somebody to want to be with them.


Oh see now you went and said it, the foundation of a healthy long term relationship - mental connection. Everything else is superficial to a certian degree although looks are important, but they dont need to be 'hot', you certianly wouldnt want to be with someone you thought was ugly even if it was just physically.

Not all men and women are like this though, they would rather 'be the boss' instead of viewing their partner as an equal.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
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What would you prefer?
Posted: 6/28/2009 9:15:56 PM
How are you going to get to know someone if you dont talk about common interests and it bleeds out from there?

I dont see how you could really really really want someone other than strictly on looks just from a few pictures and a profile without talking about some common interests first and see were it goes from there.

If you only judge people based on looks then yes I would prefer that you didnt respond. I realize looks are important but they are just one factor out of a lot of things, and I believe not as important as many other aspects of a person.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 17 (view)
 
No more Mr. Nice Guy
Posted: 6/28/2009 12:04:35 PM

What's a nice guy suit? Does it have to be dry cleaned?


Perhaps he is looking for someone that can clean his nice guy suit?
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 79 (view)
 
Weirdos and Freaks
Posted: 6/28/2009 12:00:58 PM

and what's with the Underwear Talkers?!?! i can't be the only one who gets the Underwear Talkers...


Underwear Talkers?
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Is this nature's joke on us?
Posted: 6/25/2009 10:46:57 PM

destructodave, how is that game playing working out for ya???

For me personally if a guy did that crap for a while I'd get the impression he's not interested, therefore I am not going to knock myself out on him either, in fact I will be long gone with someone that doesn't play games like that...

Last year I met my SO, I wrote him, I actually didn't think about him in a romantic sense, because I was tired of all the freaking lying and games I had dealt with for almost a year... However he was into something I wanted to learn more about, so I wrote him, asking if he'd care to share more about it...

We started e mailing, sharing interest, and then he even cracked out his web cam so I could see what he looked like as a person, NO NAKED STUFF, what a change...

We met and the rest has been history...

Had he played the of call once in a while, and act all uninterested, then he'd get that back in return... However some people have the right chemistry and things just maybe were meant to be...

OP, dating is hard, yes I have often felt it was some sort of universal joke... Just as going bald, having periods, grey hair, wrinkles, morning sickness, bad baby diapers, colic, and a host of other things that simple seem like things we could go without in life...

If it were really that easy would we have as much of an appreciation in finding that one person????



Perfect example nexthyme, in a dating sense women are more interested in a guy that can sweep them off their feet from the bat, which is why many men have to play the game and so do many women. They simply dont know what they are missing from other guys that dont give them that thrill initially which is why they lose interest. Which is also why 'players' get more attention from women. They give them that fantasy and they fall for it.

Notice nexthyme wasn't interested in a romantic sense initially, she just wanted to pump him for information in another sense, and from that got to know him better, and low and behold their actually was something there more than that! If it werent for the "non-romantic" interest, or "player" thing off the bat they might have never really gotten to know each other.

You want a real woman, that isn't confused by a guy that tells them what they want to hear, just be yourself, you want to "snag" a woman put up a front im sure you will get more of them.

Personally I really could care less about quantity and value quality much more.
 Ammo80
Joined: 6/10/2009
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Why do they all pull away?
Posted: 6/25/2009 4:43:40 PM
It sounds like they are confused and dont know what they really want out of a long term partner. There are pheromones released in the brain when you first begin a relationship that only last so long. This will actually help to keep a couple together for a while but they eventually dissapate over time as you get used to each other. Then they may notice some little things they may not like about you and it could build up, they begin having thoughts that the grass might be greener on the other side.

Just remember its their loss! I think you should just take the lessons of how they were and learn from that and dont repeat the same mistake of picking up another man that you think might repeat that. Yes, some of us do actually know what we want and who the keepers are.
 
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