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Thread: heard on the raido
papa1973
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heard on the raido
Posted:
7/2/2009 6:48:01 PM
Yes it's ok, until it turns "serious."
Usually "serious" to me is the first kiss.
If we're exchanging bodily fluids then to me that's serious.
papa1973
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Justifying Cheating?
Posted:
7/2/2009 4:37:47 PM
"It's obvious that we can't be attracted to the same person forever but men and women see sex in totally different ways. Most men do not need an emotional connection for sex yet it is how most men can and do express their love."
Spider
I can't imagine having sex with someone I didn't care about.
Just that men get that "emotional connection" super quick, like I can look at a woman, not even exchange conversation and be thinking, "Wow look at her, she looks so sad, looks like she's had a hard life, if only I could take her in my arms and make the pain go away..."
That's pretty much "guy thinking." For me personally there's always a deep sort of empathy involved in sex.
Whereas I think for women they're not into empathy, they want an emotional COMMITTMENT that you will not only take them into your arms NOW but keep them there indefinitely, and that you will make their well-being one of your top priorities.
This manifests itself as legal and financial constructs to keep the man PAYING HER because it represents the continuation of COMMITTMENT on his part.
I think on a subconscious level many women CHOOSE to make less money, because these legal and financial constructs BENEFIT the lower-earner, and thus represent the COMMITTMENT that she wanted from him from day 1.
In other words if she makes less money, he is FORCED to action his committment.
Like the example of the doctor who offered a 1 time lump sum 500k vs monthly payments.
Of course she'll take the monthly because it forces him to remain in her life and keep his committment to her.
papa1973
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Justifying Cheating?
Posted:
7/2/2009 4:24:41 PM
Considering the opinions of both men and women regarding all the frustrations of being married.
Why does anyone think being marriage is ever a good idea?
How can you stand before God and your community, and make a vow that you will NEVER EVER EVER be with anybody else?
Doesn't that sound a little uh...disingenuous?
Does anyone nowadays actually BELIEVE that???
Marriage is essentially a financial agreement. It says "everything we all make is ours" which is good for the lower-earner (usually women) and bad for the high-earner (usually men.)
It can take months and years to dissolve the marriage, during which time any sex by any party could be considered "cheating."
Of course I want "real love" and so do most people, but it seems to me that marriage is the OBSTACLE to real love rather than its catalyst.
If you don't love someone anymore, all it should take is the words to SAY SO, then you can go love who you want and theres no cheating.
But with marriage there's umpteen months of court deliberations, financial hardship, etc before either party can MOVE ON.
papa1973
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is it ok to continue a relationship when i know i don't love?
Posted:
7/2/2009 4:05:08 PM
Make a decision. Either let her go NOW, or decide to continue and give her all the love you can.
Yes I believe loving someone is a decision. The "goosebumps" etc are just in the beginning, I don't know anybody who feels that way 5-10 years down the line. I think people EXPECT a relationship to be all ice cream and lollipops forever.
It doesn't work that way.
If you care about her, if her well-being is one of your priorities in life, then make the decision to be with her forever.
If you can't make that committment to her in your own heart, then let her go now so she can find a committed man.
papa1973
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Should I ask adult child's mother to help her daughter?
Posted:
7/2/2009 3:50:23 PM
The "equal rights" thing to do : Make your ex sell the house, collect the 10k, get a second and third job, and contribute to the well being of her offspring.
The "man" thing to do : Suck it up and provide for my child as best I can, because my ex is a worthless sac of protoplasm and about as useful to me as a hole in the ground.
papa1973
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Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control?
Posted:
7/2/2009 3:37:36 PM
You have no assurances other than her word that she's on BC.
Considering that women are master liars and manipulators, that should give you pause right there.
Even if you use a condom she can still use it to make herself conceive.
I use the "soak the boys in hot water" method of having control over my own reproduction, at least until male BC becomes legal in the US.
papa1973
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Should I have just kept my mouth shut?
Posted:
7/2/2009 2:55:47 AM
He's embarassed.
Instead of "Honey you did X Y Z wrong"
say
"Honey you're a GREAT lover, I want more, do A B C for me next time"
where A B C is foreplay, kissing etc etc
papa1973
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Something ALL women on pof should put in their profiles
Posted:
7/2/2009 1:23:51 AM
This post should have been addressed to the FELLAS not the LADIES because that's where the problem lie.
To avoid the "steak hoes"
1) Basically if YOU are inviting someone, its basic civility that you pay for them. Since %99 of the time men approach women, guess what, we pay.
2) Spending alot on a date to impress her is a sign of weakness and supplication, she will not respect you for it, but she will certainly enjoy her free dinner.
3) Likewise expecting that since you paid for X Y Z then she OWES you a phone call etc, that is also weakness and supplication, you become essentially a "john" that pays for her attention with your money.
4) Every step in the dating process is an opportunity to SCREEN. I asked a woman once "What would be a great date to you?" She said "A broadway show" But guess what, since I don't know her well enough to spend $110 on her, I politely said goodbye and hung up.
5) Someone mentioned a diner, I really like that idea. You can order coffee/tea, chat, if you don't like her then pay the $3 check and leave. (suggest she leave the tip
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6) Learn to say NO. "Will you buy me a drink?" Um no. Will you buy me this teddy bear? Um no. Publicly women will say they hate this, but internally they understand YOU DO NOT WANT TO BUY THEIR LOVE and that puts you ahead of most guys. Most guys are so desperate and needy, buying her any piece of crap for approval, they LIKE it but they do not RESPECT it, that's immediate "beta male" status.
7) All of the above does no good UNLESS MOST GUYS PRACTICE IT. If 99 guys spend $500 on a first date, and 1 guy spends $5, the expectation is that if you play smart then you're "not worth the time", but if ALL guys spend $5 then playing smart becomes the norm, steakhos get upset, and everybody has a good dating experience.
That's my 2 cents fellas
Peace
papa1973
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What's your deal breaker? (re profiles first glance)
Posted:
7/1/2009 11:57:42 PM
Deal breakers
1) Has cats - Cats make me sneeze plus they just suck
2) Short haircut - not looking to date a guy
3) Too involved in politics - you won't change the world, give it up
4) Is an atheist - soulless ppl don't interest me
5) Feminist - Usually angry at life, angry at men, angry at everything
6) Angry sounding profile - Life is too short for anger
7) Refers to herself as "Princess, Queen, Diva, Her Royal Highness etc" - If you're a princess then I'm Barak Obama lol, you pretentious clown
papa1973
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Thin Overweight Average
Posted:
7/1/2009 11:35:55 PM
5'4 is fine I was thinking like 4'10 in the "too short" category
I dated a girl that was 4'10 I felt like I should hold her hand while crossing the street. lol
papa1973
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Is kissing a important part of intimacy???
Posted:
7/1/2009 11:33:16 PM
wtf
not like to KISS?
I would drop them so fast.
papa1973
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How should I arrange a MFM threesome?
Posted:
7/1/2009 11:30:41 PM
lol ew
I pretty much hate men (not in the abstract, just sexually) and could never stand for that.
Its like that Johnny Carson joke "Good evening ladies and germs"
papa1973
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Thin Overweight Average
Posted:
7/1/2009 11:05:40 PM
I like my women kinda plump.
Not like grossly obese but chubby.
As far as height, too short is inconvenient, you can't put your arm around her without squatting.
Too tall and sex feels like WWF wrestling.
papa1973
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Please explain Love
Posted:
7/1/2009 10:59:38 PM
My definition of love?
A combination of mercy, caring, sexual attraction and friendship.
papa1973
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Justifying Cheating?
Posted:
7/1/2009 10:45:51 PM
Words like "cheating" are just value judgements which are meaningless to me.
I don't live my life by someone else's code of honor.
Lets say you fall out of love with someone, and you're about to divorce them, then they find out they have cancer, and you have health insurance, I'd have no qualms with stayng married to give them healthcare while going to live with someone else to have real love.
I'm not going to drop a human being's health insurance just to conform to social convention.
Opinions be damned, only my honor code matters.
papa1973
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Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control?
Posted:
7/1/2009 10:05:39 PM
I'll pay half your birth control if you pay for half the gas it took me to drive to your house and plow you.
And oh yeah you owe me $600 thats your half for the dinners too.
papa1973
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Is it possible to be in love with two people at the same time?
Posted:
7/1/2009 8:41:07 PM
Well first off what is "love?"
I don't know what it means. I know that throughout my life I've met certain people that I've cared deeply about.
And I still care about some of them even today, decades later.
So yes, I think you can "love" two people at the same time, BUT if you care about someone you shouldn't ever lie to them.
What most people think of as a "relationship" I find closer to a job application.
Will you :
Have sex with me and only me.
Take me out for good times once in a while
Help me pay the household bills
Take out the trash
Give me children
When my mother had cancer, my ex gf from 15 years ago flew in from California to help look after her. My relationship with her is more than a girlfriend, more than a wife. We understand and care about each other on a deep level that I'm failing to express.
"So why aren't you two married."
Because we're closer now than we ever were as a couple.
And because we both think "relationship" is a lame concept to begin with.
When I go thru personal ads, most of em look like job applications to me. Who gives a schit if you like the Yankees?
Love is organic and carnal, you can't control attraction, someone might not even say a word to you, but just looking at them you care about them.
And I'm not talking about "looks", like "ooh she has such big gazongas, I care about her" no.
Meh. Tired now write more later.
papa1973
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Is it racism when....
Posted:
7/1/2009 8:07:21 PM
Who cares if its "racist."
Are you gonna stop feeling how you feel just because other ppl find it negative?
If you're not into asian women, then you're not into asian women.
It is what it is.
papa1973
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Circumcised vs Un-Circumcised...
Posted:
6/30/2009 5:53:22 PM
"Several types of research have documented that male circumcision significantly reduces the risk of HIV acquisition by men during penile-vaginal sex."
This quote is from the Centers for Disease Control.
Most of the "anti circumcision" hysteria is from closet haters in Europe who want to get rid of this "barbaric practice" because it's supposedly a "Jewish thing." (not saying YOU guys here)
Its your progeny do what you want, but the numerous health benefits IMO outweigh any namby-panty "but won't the baby cry" objections.
Yes he'll cry. He'll scream. And his pee pee will be in pain for 2 days.
And then he'll grow up, forget the pain and say "Thanks dad for not punking out."
papa1973
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Please critique my profile (be honest)
Posted:
6/30/2009 4:40:30 PM
1) The text
2) How do the pics look
3) Do I seem needy, arrogant, etc etc
4) What can I change to make it better
5) What are the best parts of it
Thank you for your honest opinions.
-Greg
(why does it say this post has to be 200 letters long? I'm trying to add filler text cmon let me post nooooow)
papa1973
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Don't you find they cause problems?
Posted:
6/30/2009 4:28:50 PM
Meh depends on mood.
Barefoot is ok. Heels are ok too.
And no they don't get in the way.
papa1973
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Guys:: Would you message someone with no photo on their profile?
Posted:
6/30/2009 4:25:02 PM
No, I wouldnt.
And not because I'm "rating" you or whatever, but because a picture is worth 1000 words, seeing someone's face and eyes, you kind of get an idea of how they are, how they act, whether they're playful or shy.
papa1973
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Circumcised vs Un-Circumcised...
Posted:
6/30/2009 4:15:40 PM
I was taken to be "cut" at the age of 5 or 6 by my mother.
Yes it was painful. No I don't regret it.
From my point of view she basically did me a favor, pain is nothing, it goes away.
Of course its difficult for a mother to watch, but you're not doing it for fun.
Your little man can handle it even if you get all mushy and emotional about it.
When he's 20 and his HIV test comes back negative, he'll be like "thanks ma"
papa1973
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Whats with the harems?
Posted:
6/30/2009 2:16:53 PM
Total honesty?
Because today's woman isn't worth being monogamous to.
When you look at me you see my father, my grandfather, my great grandfather, chopping wood during the depression to keep his family warm, hunting pheasant to keep them fed etc. I would do that today in a heartbeat.
But when I look at you I don't see the quiet dignity of my grandmother, I see a tatoo of a butterfly on your a$$, I see you bootygrinding some guy at a Reggaeton club, I see profile photos of your big boobies hanging out of your dress. I see you getting hammered at the bar like an alcoholic. You're not my female ancestors not by a longshot.
I would die to protect my grandmother, but I would not fight to protect you.
And I know that sucks to hear because it sucks to say.
Flame on.
papa1973
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Fellas, how would you honestly react to this?
Posted:
6/30/2009 8:56:42 AM
lol she didn't make a mistake, she gamed you lovely.
Go back and ask if you can eat her tuna.
Sandwich. Tuna sandwich. On whole wheat bread please.
papa1973
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Guys, what do you think of the girls?
Posted:
6/30/2009 4:54:40 AM
I like the pic rating system.
Altho I'm not happy with my score, at least it gives me some kind of assessment about my looks and how it affects women's reaction to my profile.
Also it motivates me to keep my fitness discipline, and lets me know I need to put up better pictures.
Overall I would say its a self-improvement tool more than anything.
The "favorites" I'm not really sure what that's for, other than to encourage floaters to have alot of orbiters.
papa1973
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Guys, what do you think of the girls?
Posted:
6/29/2009 11:35:04 PM
I should also say this :
Out of the 8 or so women that I've "pinged" with a hello, 2 have turned out to be worth my time, and another 2 didn't reply, 1 deleted my message without reading it, and 1 young lady (who claims to have extreme social anxiety) wrote to me first.
The one who wrote to me is way too young for my taste, but I still wrote her back out of common human decency. She claims to have extreme social anxiety, so I only text her even tho I have her #. This one goes in my "lets just be friends" file but she seems like a kind-hearted young lady and overall a positive POF experience.
Got 3 other #'s, 1 seems to enjoy wasting my time. I said "ok, please join me" and she was like "I will let you know later" I was thinking "wtf, life is short we are not immortals, I must be doing something wrong if I can't even give away a free dinner." But then I realized it wasn't me, she was just toying with me. Why you give me your # if you dont want to do anything or go anywhere or even meet me.
If I'm ugly to you then just say "no thanks" and step.
Another # was a very nice Xtian lady with a beautiful smile, I am taking it very slow with her until we see what develops.
So out of 8 hellos, 3 positive POF experiences, 3 wastes of flesh, and 3 "eh whatever."
So far POF is the best dating site I have discovered.
papa1973
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Guys, what do you think of the girls?
Posted:
6/29/2009 10:55:09 PM
Most of the chicks I've talked to on here seem to fall in the "floater" category.
They're not here to date or find love, just to attract mobs of horny dudes as "orbiters" to float around them and inflate their egos while shooting down any pathetic attempt by guys to actually meet because that would actually require getting your large butt off the computer and maybe walk on the street without red carpet and an honor guard.
Then you have the "urbane" chicks who usually live in a place like Manhatten where there's expensive restaurants every 5 feet, so they pick out only the best looking guys to do them the favor of accepting free dinners without ever investing anything emotionally. Why stick to one guy when you can just go thru life having random men buy you glasses of Merlot and $5 Lattes? As soon as he displeases the Queen in any way, she usually puts him on ignore and picks the next lucky contestant to be given a chance to kiss her a$$ properly.
Then you have "Wedding Planners" who suddenly find their biological clock ticking after having wasted the best years of their life in bars getting hammered and ridden hard by "bad boys", now suddenly are worn out and want the "responsible guy" who studied hard in school, has an actual career and stock portfolio, to give her a white picket fence and 2.5 kids.
"Bargain hunters" whose pants look like 2 pounds of baloney in a 1 pound bag, but won't date any guy who isn't shredded.
"Player Haters" who go thru life dating superconfident womanizers with hot bods, and project their last 5 boyfriends on the poor "nice guy" who had to drink a Red Bull before nervously managing to type out "Hi, errr wanna go on a date with me?"
I'm sure I'm missing a few but this is what I've talked to lately.
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