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Thread: the agenda tonight
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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the agenda tonight
Posted:
11/23/2009 1:24:47 PM
No, I have not ever even visited those sites. There is enough drama on this one in this forum for me.......
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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anyone have an answer?
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11/23/2009 8:57:45 AM
It's their house, their rules, their reactions.
Sorry, but I disagree. If it is not okay for anyone to tell us how to raise our children...it is not ok period, regardless of the circumstances. Some parents can be quite over-bearing with their "helpful advice".
I can understand from her parents p.o.v. to a point. I am sure it is frustrating for them but they should not be taking their frustration out on anyone...we are all responsible for our actions.
Your parents, at this stage of their lives, most probably didn't plan or want to live with a baby and all his/her needs.
I would agree with this. This is a difficult position for all of them to be in...some distance would be a good thing....starting with separate households.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Why don't men date single mothers...the answer
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11/23/2009 6:44:14 AM
Well hell, I might as well join into the shitshow....I'm bored and on holidays....
Here is my 2 cents.
When I decided to have my child out of wedlock, it never occurred to me that I would be seen as "tainted" by a great many men because I chose to become a mother. I was aware of the challenges kids from single family homes face and the possibility that he would be judged because he came from a single family home. I didn't let any of that deter me...I set out to raise my son to be the kind of kid anyone would enjoy being around and he is just that kind of young man.
Like many women, I had my share of battles with self-esteem. There is some truth to what was said in an earlier post about why *some* single moms get offended by the comments made about single moms, but it doesn't apply across the board. If I am feeling particularly bad about myself and I read one of hannity's posts bashing single moms, it does evoke an emotional response from me. If I am feeling good about myself, I read one and think "what an azzhole". The difference being my state of mind, not what he writes.
The man I am with now has two children. We have been talking about blending our families and I am hesitant for a few reasons...one of which being his children. His children are not my children. I don't know what kind of relationship I should have with them, don't even know the kind of relationship I want to have with them. I am starting to understand more from the other side of the fence so to speak. Now granted his children are 15 and 17 and teens aren't the easiest group to deal with...but it does not change the reality that I am struggling with how to get along with them. His daughter and I are cool...his son is distant and cool towards me.
The other issue is finances....to blend or not. It isn't about not wanting my money spent on his children at all...but rather the financial risks that are inherent when you get married.
Being with him, finding time to be together has been a challenge but we have managed because where there is a will, there is a way. I have taken the back burner to his kids from time to time as he has taken the back burner to my kids. Does it feel "good" to be temporarily put lower down on the list of priorities? No, it doesn't, but I understand it which makes it okay with me. When he has to cancel our plans because of something to do with his kids, I don't feel he loves me any less. If I wasn't a parent, I might not understand it as well as I do.
The mother of his children passed away. The fathers of my children are still around. He knows the father of my son...that is not an issue. He wants nothing whatsoever to do with the father of my youngest child which suits me just fine. He has struggled I know with the realities of my situation but we have talked them through. It is harder for *some* men to handle a woman's past but that doesn't mean *some* men won't handle it, it just depends on whether or not they feel the relationship with that woman is worth it.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Dating a Single Mother - Advice
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11/23/2009 6:05:53 AM
Maccas, best wishes with the relationship. I hope you and she find happiness and love together.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Why don't men date single mothers...the answer
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11/22/2009 9:34:32 PM
Oh jesus m_church....did you have to go there?
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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anyone have an answer?
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11/22/2009 9:32:14 PM
You are a burden on your own parents.
Oh wow! You don't know the OP's parents but you are projecting that she is a burden on them......no child of mine who had a child and needed my help would ever be considered a burden by me.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Mandatory DNA tests at birth?
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11/22/2009 8:22:14 PM
I am in favour of mandatory DNA testing at birth...only the mother knows for sure and I know of a woman who is married, has two children and neither are her husbands and he has no clue.....pathetic that women can and will do this to men.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Should I put up with it for the sake of our daughter, or not?
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11/22/2009 7:26:26 PM
mandanj...it is sad when parents don't see the damage they are doing to their own relationships with their children. One of the last blow-ups we had was when I asked him if he wanted to know what our daughter was saying about him.....well suffice to say, he wasn't happy to hear it. He ranted at me and I simply kept telling him I was only telling him what she said to me...I didn't engage in any debate, I simply told him that our 4 year old daughter was already rejecting him because she didn't like getting hit. I told him he was free to do with the information as he pleased and suggested he have a chat with her about it. He called me a couple days later to tell me that he had talked to her and she told him the same thing she had told me. Since then, it seems that he has stopped hitting her...hallelulah!!!
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Should I put up with it for the sake of our daughter, or not?
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11/22/2009 7:08:27 PM
HPotters, I agree with you that joint physical custody works best when the parents can get along....believe it or not it also can work when the two parents cannot get along as long as they respect each other's boundaries. That is the thing....it has taken us 4 years to establish boundaries that work for both of us and avoid the attempts to co-parent. We do parallel parenting now and it is working.
He spanked her that hard that one time over a year and a half ago...I reported him...they investigated and kept the file open for a year. He seems to be doing less physical punishment and our daughter is better for it. Of course I am still monitoring the situation as any parent would. The older our child gets, the more she is able to verbalize her feelings and she is not shy about doing it. It is hard for any parent to hear their child tell them how they feel about what the parent is doing...
I really don't mind the ignorant comments of some of the posters....like those who feel our daughter should be taken from both of our custody....I guess they have a reading comprehension problem or didn't bother to read it all or they would have seen that I did everything within my power legally then and now. I am a good mother and there is nothing anyone on this forum or in the real world could ever say/do to make me think otherwise. My 15 year old son is a testament to my parenting skills.
We have had a period of calm and it is my hope it continues. Anyone who has ever been in a relationship that resulted in a child and then split....it can be a difficult transition as agreements are reached and boundaries set up.....much of what I initiated this thread to discuss has been resolved. We are doing parallel parenting but I did not return to court to have our agreement altered...I set my boundaries and stood my ground. He has respected my boundaries and when we do talk, we are civil towards each other.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Back to the topic...? :-)
Posted:
11/21/2009 6:58:29 AM
Debate is soooo much better than argument!
Agreed......anyone want to go for a coffee?
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Dating a Single Mother - Advice
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11/21/2009 6:56:21 AM
OP, as a single man w/ no kids this makes you extremely eligible and marketable in the dating scene, and you should not waste your coveted status on dating single moms. There are plenty of single women w/ no kids around your age that are stunning, cool, educated, and funny, and don't come with a single mom stigma. They would love to start a life with men like yourself. Relationships should be about you and that person. Not you, the person, her kids, her ex, her kids cousins, her kids grandparents, her single mom life, etc....
Use your status every chance you get...make it every part of you and use it as your hook and to your advantage when attracting the ladies. Singles w/ no kids are the cream of the crop! You could really use my advice so let me point out a few things if I may...
So hannity...just so I am clear then. It is your position that any single woman with no children is better than a single woman with children. So if the said single woman is unemployed, lives in a filthy home, has bad hygiene, it a raging drug addict, she is still a better person that a single mother who is a lawyer, owns her own home, is beautiful and has a wonderful personality?
OP - Hannity you seem to believe that any woman who has children is "dirty"....at least that is how you come across.
If it is your preference to not date single moms, hey that is fine with us all (I am sure of that). Often though in writing of your preference, you come across as degrading all single moms which is prejudice, not preference.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Dating a Single Mother - Advice
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11/20/2009 4:50:21 PM
won't I have to get used to always playing second fiddle for her emotions?
You should not have to but at times the child will come first.
In an ideal world a couple will become infatuated with each other long before they have children, and having those children together will bring them even closer.
In an ideal world yes but I often hear about how having children drove a wedge between them as the transition from being #1 to each other was altered to make baby #1.....
I worry that I wouldn't receive the same back and that there wouldn't be any 'honeymoon' period.
There is ALWAYS a honeymoon period if there is mutual attraction...but I am curious since you mention it...what usually happens with your relationships when the honeymoon phase ends? I ask because there are some people who love the honeymoon and get bored/take off when it is over...if you are like that...stay away from all the children of the single mom's you are dating please.
I love spontaneity
It doesn't exist once you have children, everything has to be planned to a degree unless you are doing something you can include the child in......
Does this mean the courting period is far longer with single mothers because you don't see as much of each other (by much I mean purely 1 on 1 time)? Can this be worked around? However on the flip side I know single mothers have been through the whole dating hoopla before so is dating one a shorter process
really depends on the woman.
any other advice on how I can be sensitive to her and her situation? Are there any faux pas men commit when dating single mums that I can sidestep? She doesn't need any more hurt in her life and as much as I like her I'd regrettably step aside if I'm ever at risk of contributing to that, or even worse hurting her son through attachment. Would I be better leaving her to find a single father whose life is in the same place?
It is nice that you are putting so much thought into this but I really think you are over-analyzing this....might be a result of reading too many "single mothers are the scorge of the planet" type threads or "reasons for not dating a single mother" threads. Treat her the same way you would a woman without a child with the added respect for the fact that she is a mother and her child's needs may occassionally trump yours. Only you know if you can handle it and there is only one way to know for sure.....try.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Embarrassing moments brought to you by your kids
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11/20/2009 4:41:53 PM
When my son was in Junior Kindergarden, he needed a hair cut really badly. Money was really tight so I borrowed the clippers my parents bought to try and clip their dogs (human clippers folks) to clip his hair. When he went to school the next day, the teacher told him she liked his new haircut to which he replied "My mom cut my hair with the dog clippers". I was told this at the next interview and I was sooooo embarrased.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Back to the topic...? :-)
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11/20/2009 4:38:26 PM
I never approach a debate in terms of proving someone wrong...
It was not meant at you at all. I obviously did try that (again) and again it did not work.
Aw pixie, I know it wasn't....it was a general comment directed outwards to which I responded with how I think I approach debates.
How many more days to
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TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Althetic Child, wants to be in soccor, but shared visitation makes that impossible, suggestions?
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11/20/2009 4:27:50 PM
How about the father takes her every weekend during soccor (or other) season and he can put them on a team near him.
that seems reasonable to me...she would get to spend more time with her father and he with her.
In any event, I think you should really reach out to her father about this and seek his input. When I say seek his input, I don't mean tell him this is what you are going to do and expect his cooperation........just wanted to be clear on that.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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anyone have an answer?
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11/20/2009 4:06:40 PM
Sara, I feel for you. I had to bounce back with Mom and Dad for a year when my son was 3 and it was a rough year. If I sent my son to his room crying, my mother would tell me I was so mean to him and ask if she could go see him. I would look at her and say "Who are you and what have you done with my mother?". Using humour to convey a message worked for that year but it was draining. Grandparents do have a tendency to spoil and be know-it-alls (they have earned that right). Sometimes the older generation can give some good insight, valuable tips to the younger generation but with all advice, you have to weigh it and do what you feel is appropriate for your child because you know your child and your parenting goals better than anyone else.
You could try sitting down with your parents when your child is asleep and calmly explaining to them that while you appreciate any advice they have for you, that you would prefer they give it only when asked. They might get all offended at first but if you then ask for some advice here and there, they will get over it. They only want what is best for you and your child after all...don't forget that.
My father is similar to how you describe yours....every now and then I would have to intervene and remove my child and go to our rooms to talk to him. My father never did have much patience and would often blow his top and start with the yelling and name-calling. It is your job to protect your child from verbal abuse...do it any way you can.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Back to the topic...? :-)
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11/20/2009 4:00:40 PM
Hey sourness....what's the matter? Aren't split personalities fun? I had a rough day myself a couple of days ago and was so sarcastic in the forums (and not very subtle with it which is my usual MO as you know
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Turquoise, perhaps you are right....emotions are the source of our passion about topics and what a boring world we would live in without passion. I never approach a debate in terms of proving someone wrong...I don't think I do anyway...I think my only motivation is to open the mind and have mine opened as well.
I started to respond to OpenHeart's comments about vaccination and intended to cut and paste from the net symptoms of the illnesses we vaccinate against and I stopped after researching two of them because honestly.....the treatment for the two I researched are readily available and the illnesses only seem to result in death in children when those children are also malnourished...kinda made me wonder actually just how important it was....and made me wonder if the extinction of those illnesses through vaccination might not have caused more problems that science yet realizes.
Prior to the mass immunization campaigns we have today....the ability to provide our children with a healthy varied diet was not what it is today. Of course, there are still children who have inadequate diets and live in poverty so.....I need to explore this further and may end up changing my position on them.....
This has been one of the best threads I've ever participated in on POF for sure.
CSoul, if you use MSN or Yahoo to chat, both have games that you can play online with someone you are chatting with...I've played chess with rustic (remember him) who lives in Australia...of course he kicked my butt but still it was fun.
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Anyone had to subject a child 6 or older to surgery?
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11/19/2009 8:12:55 AM
jla, my daughter has had one surgery and for me as a parent, it was hell....I paced and worried the entire time she was in the OR and hearing her cry in the recovery room and not being able to be with her was torture. She was too young at the time to understand or ask questions which was also tough for me to handle. I was never so glad to be able to hold her as I was that day when I was finally able to pick up my baby....it was more joyful than the first time I ever held her in my arms after she was born.
The advice you have been given is from people who have by and large experienced multiple surgeries and I hope it is helpful for you. I don't have much to add except to say I pray that everything goes well and that this time it works and no more surgeries will be required.
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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Condoning Atheism
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11/19/2009 5:48:14 AM
Oh Wow.....I think I just figured out why debates are supposed to be void of emotion and based on facts only.......not bad, only took 43 years on the planet to have the value of debating on facts shown to me. Thanks you guys! I doubt it will change much for me in how I debate though...I'm an emotional talker and an emotional thinker. Lord knows how my life would be easier if I wasn't, but it is who I am and I think the world needs emotional talkers too. I must learn to take a deep breath and inject logic and reason into my arguments though.....ah the evolution of Pam...will it ever end?
OpenHeart, it really takes a certain kind of person to openly admit they were wrong on these open forums. I do believe that you and I are very similiar in our love of personal freedoms which ultimately equates to respecting differences providing the exercising of those freedoms do not impair the freedoms of another.
Now if we could get back to the regularly scheduled programming.....what was the thread topic again? Oh not closed mind and religious brainwashing vs science...that wasn't it...I'll change it back now....unless there is another topic we want to discuss....anyone?
This thread feels like a group of friends sitting around the coffee shop...anyone else feel that way about this group?
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
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11/18/2009 2:44:12 PM
Look thatusernameistaken, I don't have much respect for anyone who abuses the system but that is not really what your thread was about...or was it? I think you did the right thing by not putting the dentist fee through the system. I also think you should report your ex to the welfare office but only if doing it is for that reason and not because you want to get at her....only you know your true motivations in this.
I have reported a few people I knew were abusing the system....nothing happened to them but that was years ago...i don't associate with welfare people much anymore because of where I live and who my friends are but I wouldn't hesitate to report on someone who was lying to get benefits.
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Closed mind and religious brainwashing vs science
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11/18/2009 2:12:17 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
are we now going to bring into the discussion vaccines? i'm just checking because I think we may only have a few more topics to introduce....perhaps we can vote on the next topic as a group before we commence discussion on it....
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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adjuvented or non-adjuvented
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11/18/2009 1:59:13 PM
There is more research to support heavy metals/foods as being the cause of autism and guess what....we can rid the body of heavy metals and change their diet.........
More children died from the diseases we vaccinate against than die today as a result of the vaccination....fact you might want to research.
You know what...I just thought of something...you might want to never let your child ride their bike on the road, they might get hit by a car and killed...the likelihood of that happening is greater than your child dying from a vaccine.
EDUCATION....it is the cure for stupidity.
Man...I'm in a bad mood today....step away from the keyboard!!!!
TAKEN_itsallinthesoul
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A different angle - Social Assistance Programs
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11/18/2009 1:48:50 PM
Sorry OP but your entire post smelled of I hate my ex, see what a piece of crap she is?
She is not the first (assuming she is doing it, which she probably is) to live with a guy and claim "roommate" status in order to qualify for social assistance. If she gets caught, and if she lived in Ontario, she would be charged with fraud and denied further assistance..... I have little respect or tolerance for cheats and liars personally.
I'm curious....did you fight for sole custody of the children? If not, you need to STFU and stop your whining because that is all you are doing. If you did, well I say focus on the relationship you have with your children and be there for them and stop thinking about her or the guy banging her. If paying the dentist bill makes you feel good about yourself, that is all that should matter. I think you did the right thing.
edit to add: By all means report her and when she gets kicked off the system or charged with fraud, you will likely be able to get the kids into your custody. If not, wait until this bf kicks her out and she and your children are living in the streets...then you can get her good. Revenge is a beautiful thing, ain't it? (Yes, for those who don't know me....that is sarcasm!)
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Multiple children by multiple partners
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11/18/2009 1:21:41 PM
I heard of this one chick who had multiple kids by multiple men of different races. Her first marriage didn't work out, and apparently she didn't learn from her mistake the first time because she winded up in another dead end marriage. Afterwards she was single and at some point she even had to get foodstamps. She bounced her kids all around the friggin country trying to land a man and I guess get educated somewhere along the way.
Somebody needs to tell Obama's momma that it just ain't cool or respectful to be on a welfare program and have multiple kids with multiple daddies. She might lose the respect of some complete meaningless strangers. What the hell kind of example was she setting for her kids? Why didn't she give more forethought to the her husbands and/or sperm donors to have a more lasting relationship? Boy I can't wait to see how her kids grow up and turn out.
Oh now NappyKat, you know they will say he is the exception, not the rule.... (said with extreme sarcasm)....don't you know that children without fathers or children with moms who are like the one you describe can't possibly be high achievers and if they do it is a complete and utter fluke? (yup, more sarcasm) I mean after all, us women who have "**stard" children or even worse, "**stard" children by multiple fathers are the scorge of the earth and responsible for everything bad in society.....didn't you get the memo? I can send you a copy if you didn't get it. (wow, I'm so sarcastic at the moment....sawry).
As I have said over and over and over again......(should cut and paste so I don't have to keep typing it and finding the links to support it).....
If a child grows up with a loving, decent parent(s) .... (oh hell you all can fill in the blanks, I'm tired of typing it).
There are many freaks of society who grew up with two parents and their siblings all had the same parents.....(I'm sure some of them of these here boards had two parents and shared the same parents with their siblings and quite honestly.....oh never mind)
Threads like this are extremely judgemental and very condescending to read...they make me sick!
There are never any guarantees with our children...the best we can do is provide them with a loving home and opportunities to grow and develop into confident, law abiding adults.
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An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
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11/18/2009 8:08:31 AM
Nothing quite like success being penalized and failure being rewarded. She couldn't/can't hold down a job, so I get/got to support her. We both have the same level of education, but while I understood that you don't start at the top, she doesn't. She feels that many jobs are "beneath" her. lmfao When I was in a trench with mud up to my ears swinging a shovel for 10 hours a day I never thought it was "beneath" me.
Why on Earth did you get involved with a woman like this? You obviously have a strong work ethic, not all people do and trust me it has nothing whatsoever to do with gender.
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Well you chose them
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11/18/2009 7:56:24 AM
Shouldn't the decision about whether or not, when, and with whom one has children be an even BIGGER decision than deciding upon whom to marry?
Well....yes and no. There is an unconditional love between a mother and a child that doesn't always extend to anyone who is not their child.
The first time I got pregnant, I had no idea what I was in for being a single parent...the decision was not an easy one to make, believe me. The second time I got pregnant, the decision was much easier because I knew what was entailed in being a parent.
For some, there is undoubtedly the whole ... my child would never leave me, but a man might. I would think that anyone who thinks that way is having a child for the wrong reasons and the pregnancy was no oops but intentionally happened.
Essentially I think the decision of whom to marry is a much bigger decision because the stakes are really high....as a parent you have more control over the relationship with your child. With a partner, there are literally no guarantees that your partner won't be off screwing someone else, won't empty your bank accounts or amass a huge debt that you will be left dealing with when they take off. This is a fear I have and even if the man is top notch high quality, good values and such....I still wonder at the back of my mind .... what if he changes?
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Complicated Girl Question
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11/18/2009 7:48:19 AM
Well Barrie, I didn't read the other responses...so this may have already been said.
How do you know she likes you and wants to meet up with you again? You see, for me words are only a part of it....words and actions in consistent harmony is the real message...the real deal.
It is possible this woman is not as interested as you are hoping she is. I can only speak for myself here but if I am really interested in a man, I will move heaven and earth to spend time with him...forget the texting...I hate texting. Phone calls are nice but there is no subsitute for one-on-one time with a man I'm into.
Even if she is really into you and this is just how she is....do you really want to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't meet your needs? If she was meeting them, you would not have felt the need to post this thread.....just a thought for your consideration.
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Homosexual Rights and Marriage Continued.....
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11/18/2009 7:32:15 AM
Hehehehehehehe, I think the mods will leave this one alone because we are being nice and respectful (for the most part
) although i've never been to ban camp (bragging!!!!) so I guess I am due.
You can always tell when a politician is lying: his/her lips are moving.
Agreed.
pro-life vs. Pro-Choice
Pro-choice all the way (yeah, shocking isn't it OpenHeart that my position is such
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or which way the toilet paper roll should hang yet!!!
Could someone explain to me what is so hard about hanging one? My 15 year old can't seem to grasp it!!!!! I could care less as long as there is some and it is on the roll, or at least within easy grasp...
I am so enjoying this thread....it is a fun one and the good Lord knows there aren't enough fun threads in the single parents forum!!!!
With everything going on in my life these days, this thread is a good stress reliever!
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AHHHH SANTA!
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11/17/2009 6:51:38 PM
I walk by Santa in the mall with my child and if the child wants to go, I go...otherwise I don't see the point of making him and now her sit on the lap of someone who scares him for the sake of a picture.
Perhaps the reality of meeting the big guy is too much for them, especially since we tell them Santa knows when they've been naughty and nice....
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8 month old up through the night again
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11/17/2009 6:43:23 PM
My son slept through the night with no wakeups as a baby and toddler but he was also co-sleeping in my bed. My daughter on the other hand, I chose not to co-sleep with because of how hard it had been to break my son of it....she woke up at least once a night crying. Honestly, as a mother, my feelings on this is that your child is waking up and feeling frightened and needing the security of knowing you are there. I'm sure there were times when my son awoke but he knew I was right there and fell back to sleep without disturbing mine.
The bond between my son and I and my daughter and I is different and if I could turn back the clock, I would have co-slept with my daughter as well......
Just my opinion.....take it or leave it.
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An unofficial look at CS payment amounts.
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11/17/2009 6:33:10 PM
it really makes sense to me that if you have shared custody (50/50) that you shouldn't have to pay support.
Where I live, the amount paid is a set off amount intended to enable parents to provide a similar standard of care for the child ... think for a moment of a situation where there is a large disparity of income...filet mignon and all the video games a kid could want at one home and kraft dinner and a tv with no cable at the other .....
When the parents make the same amount of money, there is no cs payable but when one parent makes more, it does but the amount paid is proportionate. One parent at 50K, other parent at 100K, payment is roughly 250 per month for one child. A hardly unreasonable amount.
Personally I feel that ALL cs should be calculated as a set off amount with the income used for the calculation to be imputed to full time employment when one parent chooses to work part-time.
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Homosexual Rights and Marriage Continued.....
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11/17/2009 6:27:18 PM
Do aliens exist?.....7 left Open Heart
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Condoning Athiesm
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11/17/2009 6:02:16 PM
Well considering it is mainly you who is changing the title of this thread.....lol
This is a fun thread...you gotta admit that...even if we are violating the rules by participating in it....wonder who will notify the mods and report us all getting our posting rights suspended for a time......
I actually believe that when it comes to basic rights, yes we are all equal. No, I do not believe all people are equal...which is why I do support making certain activities criminal acts.
As to how far do I take the advocacy? I speak up.
As for the actual topic of the thread.....obviously I support anyone's right to be an athiest....as long as they aren't ridiculing my beliefs or trying to legal affect my right to my beliefs, we are cool. I also think the OP is within her rights as a parent to explain her beliefs to her child and support her child's desire to hold the same belief as her mother.
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Multiple children by multiple partners
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11/17/2009 2:53:43 PM
Why do people do it? My two are same father oldest is 11 yrs old and my 6 month old.
I know of one woman where I used to live, on kid number 7 father number 7 does not know who the fathers of the kids are either. But it seems this happens a lot, multiple children in a family where each has a different father, how do you explain to the kids?
Why would someone knowing the person has this many kids with different fathers go ahead and even have sex with the person knowing this? Aren't especisally the men afraid of being on the hook for a child they may not want? Like Duh, if you can't tell what they are like with 7 kids all different men, then there is something wrong.
I feel its not fair to the kids at all. If my mother or father for that matter had kids all over the place, I think I would lose respect for them.
Matariki...that above was your original post....please show me where you talked about women having children for the sole purpose of collecting welfare....you started a thread, didn't like that you were called out for being so blantantly judgemental of other women and so you hijacked your own thread and brought in the old "welfare rat" image of single mothers to garner support for your position.......meh....whatever.
I can say that I don't like that anyone can abuse a welfare system....that is not the same thing as judging those that do it. I realize it is perhaps a difficult distinction for you to make but if you try really hard...you will see the distinction there.
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Condoning Atheism
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11/17/2009 2:45:32 PM
The only one trying to FORCE beliefs around here are the people trying to say there is something wrong with believing that marriage is between a man and a woman.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that belief. I would defend your right to hold that belief.
There is something wrong when you impose your view on another person and inhibit their rights to the same opportunties that are afforded to you as a hetersexual male.
I accept your right to bed whom you choose and do pretty much anything you please with your girlfriends. I've stated that numerous times in numerous ways.
Well thank you, I understood that about you pages ago. For the record, not that it matters at all...I am heterosexual, not bisexual or homosexual.
You approve so long as two men or two women do not marry, right? I mean, that is your position......right?
Someone who disagrees with you on a thing or two has a closed heart? But you are a champion of "diversity," right?
Perhaps we simply define open-hearted differently. I define it as one who accepts the values and beliefs of others are as important to them as yours are to you and accepts their rights to all the things that you enjoy...like employment, education, marriage, taxes, voting, etc....
I am actually a strong advocate for individual rights and equality....I'm glad that came across.
My self-esteem is not governed by strangers with wildly opposing belief systems, nor by any "group" who wishes to coopt my belief system on behalf of their pet social issues.
That is good to hear, truly. Who is trying to coopt your belief system? People are allowed to share their opinions and to debate on these boards. If you don't like to debate, I may suggest to you that sharing your opinion may not be a good idea because opinions are like azzholes...everyone has them and we will never agree. The most we can hope for is to agree to disagree but to respect each other's individual rights to live your life the way you wish with the same rights and freedoms as the next guy. In as plain text as I can type it...
You can believe marriage should be between a man and woman....but your belief does not give you the right to prevent two men or two women from marrying if it is their desire to do so. If someone was trying to force you to marry a man...then I say you have a legitimate complaint.....but that is hardly what is going on.
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Well you chose them
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11/17/2009 10:37:56 AM
Reminding a b!tching & complaining person that it was their own decision/s that put them in the position they're in and as such, they really have no right to continually complain, is a negative connotation?
Well nav, I'm with you to a point but what I have seen is people making tonnes of assumptions and coming down really hard on people without having too many facts about the situation.
The other thing I have noticed is that many times, someone will pose a question seeking advice and post after post will slam the OP for something unrelated to the original question.
I'm guilty of doing it myself sometimes......and perhaps it is unavoidable but is it really necessary?
I am offline and online the same person...scarey eh?
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adjuvented or non-adjuvented
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11/17/2009 10:27:06 AM
OpenHeart....I'm stunned!!!!!! I suppose it is better for your son to get polio or rubella or the list goes on.......
My suggestion to you is to read up on the symptoms of all the diseases you are not vacinnating your child against so you can diagnose him if he should get one because the doctors probably will miss the diagnosis.......since many haven't seen it in decades. Before we began vacinating our children, the rates of death in childhood from these illnesses were staggering......since then, not so much.
Also, the link to vaccines and autism are shakey at best...
Out of curiousity, do you feed your child a lot of processed foods? The chemicals in those are far more damaging long-term to your child ......... just food for thought (pardon the pun).
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Condoning Atheism
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11/17/2009 10:17:43 AM
I was married in a civil ceremony and called it a marriage....to me a marriage can be done in or outside of a church. In as much as I believe that the church should stay out of government, I believe the government should stay out of the church.
I will never understand the refusal to permit two same sex people to marry....if it is the church saying no...that I can understand because it is within the religious beliefs but for a government of the people to say no to a civil ceremony legally binding two people in marriage ... that is flat out discrimination IMO no matter how you may try to justify it.
Open-Heart....your nic does not represent you very well....at least in my mind, the way you come across in this thread, you are absolutely homophobic and not accepting of the basic rights of all of us unless you "condone" our choices...that is the opposite of freedom to force your views onto others.
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Are the cards stacked against me?
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11/17/2009 9:33:18 AM
Well based on what was originally in the OP's profile and her reactions/comments in this thread....I concur with Nav and others that it is really her attitude that will get in the way.
Hey wait a minute...haven't I been saying since I arrived on this board that none of us should blame our children for our ability, or lack thereof, of finding partners, that we should look in the mirror....awww never mind...what the hell do I know.
If I was a man, I would find Pam Anderson hot....what is the problem with that? Jealous much?
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Well you chose them
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11/17/2009 9:24:19 AM
nurseangelbaby....the thing I am curious about is whether or not your ex-husband was a heavy drinker before you got married or did his drinking start later after you were married and had children with this man?
There is no denying that you have suffered as a result of the choices you made, as have or will your children having a drunk for a father......but I suppose what many of us prefer to see is some accountability mixed in with the self-pity in posts....as much introspection and finger pointing at others.
If we don't learn from our errors in judgement, history will repeat....did you learn from yours?
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Condoning Atheism.
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11/17/2009 9:19:23 AM
Thanks for sending me a note on it and I didn’t mean to avoid this for discussion. I was just trying to avoid calling myself the hypocrite I’m sure to be.
NappyKat, I personally would not use the word hypocrite to describe you. I've read many of your posts where you've been non PC and I took them as sarcasm.....which implies to me that at the heart of you as a human being, you truly believe mutual respect and tolerance is the ultimate goal, whether you are personally aware of it or not...it is how I read you.
Being a POC, your life experiences have been different from mine. I am sensitive to how your life experiences affect your perceptions of the world around you, as I would hope you would be to mine. I surely could never get away with the words you use, nor would I even try to. If I thought you were truly serious, I would be concerned. Words like darkie, ni**er, whitey, cracker, all of them really need to be removed from our vocabulary because the connotations of these words are simply harmful to a progression towards the kind of society where differences are celebrated and understood, not feared and attacked.
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Well you chose them
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11/17/2009 8:42:43 AM
m church....we can always count on you to come up with a good list...and that one was a good list!!!!
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Condoning Atheism.
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11/16/2009 6:03:28 AM
There is no such thing as a right to marry.
Once upon a time, there was no such right for a black person in your country to be a free person....until it was recognized.
Once upon a time, there was no such right for women to vote in many countries....until it was recognized.
Once upon a time, there were no rights afforded to children either....until that changed.
What I think you fail to understand is that society is not a stagnant thing...society is and always should be evolving to the greater good...that being the recognition of and respect for individual rights.....surely as an American you can support the rights of individuals...isn`t that what forms the foundation of your constitution?
Like it or not, agree with it or not, mankind has a set of "good" and "bad"...what falls under those definitions do evolve. Being accepted for who you are, providing who you are does not trample on anyone else's rights is the highest of all that is "good" for us humans. Live and let live is a powerful slogan and one that our societies are aspiring to. A bigot by definition is someone who falls outside the accepted values of society.
You are free as anyone else to have an opinion on something. What society has evolved to is a place where if your opinion leads you to harm another person....your personal freedom will be in jeopardy. Sadly, in the States and to a degree here in Canada, we have the freedom of speech which enables anyone to spread as much hate and intolerance around as they want without penalty. I guess it is like that old saying "Sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never hurt you" which implies that words alone don't hurt someone. I call bullshit on that!
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Multiple children by multiple partners
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11/16/2009 5:53:53 AM
i am offended because you are living in a glass house and throwing stones.
7 pages and the OP still can't comprehend that very basic statement. In defense of the OP, it seems to be an epidemic on these boards....moral superiority that is.....
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Condoning Atheism.
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11/16/2009 5:48:28 AM
That's why I learned to avoid political discussions with subjects of crowns.
That is laughable and it show your ignorance (lack of knowledge) about the affairs of my country.
So too does comment directed against my country that liken us to Communists. If you studied the topic even a little bit you would know the difference between Communism and Socialism....and you would realize that people will often call themselves something they are not. When one person or a small group of "elite" people hold all the power that is not socialism..........
Anywhoo...I've come to understand the psyche of many Americans after reading these boards and I know there is a fundamental difference in how a capitalist thinks and a socialist thinks. Capitalism is as far from "love thy neighbour" as one can get....socialism is very much about "love thy neighbour" but neither will tolerate people sitting on their asses living off the hard work of others....neither side of the pendulum condone such behaviour. I don't particularly mind the class system as long as the rich have to give back to the betterment of society as a whole....more times than not, their wealth has been amassed on the blood, sweat and tears of the working class......it is only right that they should give back to support the "have-nots"......
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Tips and Tricks of the Trade
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11/13/2009 11:09:30 AM
I will occasionally just give up trying to do everything...instead of cooking, I will order in, instead of cleaning, I will accept that it does not have to be done right now.
Mainly I try to stay organized....write down appointments so I don't forget them, prepare as much ahead of time so I'm not running around like a chicken with my head cut off. Staying on top of the laundry is my weakness....can't seem to stay out in front of it!
The whole SuperWoman/SuperMan thing is over-rated.
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Well you chose them
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11/13/2009 11:06:27 AM
he doesn't bad mouth his ex. Unlike you has admitted and accepted some responsibility for his current situation.
and the assumption is always that there has been no personal responsibility acceptance happening.....
so ... here is a question...
If you do accept personal accountability, can you then share what an ass your ex is?
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Birthday party dilemma
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11/13/2009 11:00:40 AM
Personally, I would never have asked that question....if my son is invited, HE is invited......
What is the world coming to? I guess maybe the mother does not want her other child to realize that not everything is about him.....maybe didn't want to deal with the tantrum that would ensue because he wasn't allowed to attend. Maybe she just wanted an afternoon without her kids....who knows the motivation but what lesson is she teaching her sons.......I wonder....
I'm not sure how I would have handled a similar situation...thankfully I have never found myself in that position......hope I never do.
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Condoning Atheism.
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11/13/2009 10:53:58 AM
What you do in your bedroom is a choice.
Are you actually trying to say that one chooses their sexual orientation?
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Condoning Atheism.
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11/13/2009 10:49:42 AM
You know I always felt irritated when LGFTQ compared their struggles to Blacks. I didn't think it appropriately fit especially with whites because they would still be very racist and yet choose to hide behind their minority status as a different sexual orientation.
CSoul, I see the parallel you were trying to make .. intolerance goes by many names...racism, sexism, ageism, homophobic, etc.... to name a few.
How does anyone feel when they are not accepted for who they are? I think, we would all feel somewhat the same emotions.
Being white, being black, being asian, being of any ethnic origin is hardly something we choose, nor is being male or female, short or tall, young or old and yes, gay or heterosexual.
No one group should feel their struggle is more or less than any other group.....it is not a competition to see who has/had it worse, or is it? Intolerance is, and yes, I realize I am making a moral argument here, wrong regardless of who the target is....
As a woman, I have been treated as "less than" because of my gender. I have stereotypes applied to me because I am a woman and OH MY a blonde woman too. I have more stereotypes levied upon me because I am a single mother and if that is not bad enough, I have two children by two different fathers....scandalous! Add to it that I have had children by two men who are not of the same race as I am and wow...the comments I'm sure made behind my back by others would definately offend me. There was a time when a white person and a black person would be attacked for being friends or *gasp* dating...thank God those days don't affect me but I suspect there are still pockets (esp in the deep south) where it could and does happen. I do still get the "looks" mostly from the older generations...I respond by a PDA ..... it is my way of saying fvck you to the racists/bigots of the world.
There is no denying that white heterosexual men have more priveledge than any other group in society....but how does one change that?
We change it by sending a message along the lines of fvck you....I am entitled to the same rights and freedoms as you are (legislation making hate crimes or discrimination an illegal act). You can't keep me from gaining employment because you don't like my race/gender/sexual preference/age/etc...... You can't stop me from having access to the same services and treatment under the law. You can't stop me from being married because you don't approve of my sexual orientation. I am a human being just like you.
or
we can maintain the status quo......but that is so boring......
As usual, the laws reflect the kind of society that we want to live in but it can take generations for society to catch up....
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