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Thread: Predator or Paranoid? What are his intentions?
ohwhynot46
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Predator or Paranoid? What are his intentions?
Posted: 5/18/2013 7:54:24 AM
If at 30, none of my contemporaries fit the bill, I'll get a girl who's 18, fresh out of school.
Thereby making you the reason threads like this are started in the first place. Way to go!
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latest case of Blasphemy and Freedom of Speech
Posted: 5/9/2013 8:26:42 PM
Freedom of any kind is relative to other afforded freedoms & carries with it responsibilities. Constitutionally speaking, there certainly are those who skew the concept, viewing it as absolute with total disregard for the related importance of civil duty at its' inception. Values & morals of society were taken into consideration & those have most definitely changed over time. There is a difference between exercising a right & taking advantage of one. Just sayin'.
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Women have it easier than men!!
Posted: 5/9/2013 7:24:06 PM
What business?
The legal partnership. It was a comparison. There are valid comparisons to a marriage contract & a business partnership, legally speaking.
Yes, men do earn more. The money doesn't just fall into their laps
No it doesn't, but men do earn more for the same exact work.
And contributions other than mere finances can be measured how?
Again, I suggest you consult an actuary, or simply ask an insurance agent. Do you believe that when you are not at work you are not contributing, to anything? Geez, one can contribute to/via.... a conversation, the quality of life of another, time spent, etc.
"Seen by some" would be an opinion.
So, whats your point? Are we not all entitled to an opinion? Do you not allow for the fact that your particular contribution to society is subject to the opinions of others?
If your empathy weren't so superficial, you'd of understood that this comment could be offensive to me. It seems you have much more to learn than I do.
You are quite incorrect in your assertion of my superficiality, and I have no desire at all to offend you. Your comments could be seen as offensive as well, but I am mature enough to realize that all of our opinions are colored by experience. You have quite clearly indicated your personal experience with a "bad" parent, and certainly it affects your judgement of those who place a high value on parenting.
My point was that the legal system screws over men. If anybody wants to challenge this assertion, then go ahead. But neutralism gets nothing accomplished.
The legal system screws everyone over. My point is that the basis of the laws regarding marriage & the legal dissolution of same are not gender biased, even if instances of gender bias in the application of those laws occur. Lest we forget, the legal system has as it's base mostly men making the decisions. Relative to the topic at hand, a valid example to refute would be that, since men are far more likely to commit violent crime against women, women may well be described as having it harder. I guess it would depend, in those cases, on whether one would define "having it easier" as being a victim of violent crime or being made to pay for having committed such a crime. It's all relative. Perception rules.
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Predator or Paranoid? What are his intentions?
Posted: 5/8/2013 5:14:36 PM
You may be wrong about his intentions, but what's the difference? If you have an inkling that something may not be quite right, why would you bother to pursue this? Given that you have children, even if you aren't worried about his intentions toward them, I think you could do better than to connect with a man so irresponsible as to get to the point where he is jailed over parking tickets. There may a valid defense to this, but who cares? There truly are plenty of fish in the sea. Next!
ohwhynot46
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Women have it easier than men!!
Posted: 5/7/2013 7:37:36 PM
Men make more than women, so naturally men get screwed in this instance. Unless you have facts to verify the average female makes more than the average man.
"Getting screwed" is nothing more than your take on it. If you enter into a legal partnership, one party investing more cash & the other investing more time & effort into running the business, you still split profits equally. If your statements are correct, then I imagine you believe that women get screwed in life in general, as, by your own admission, men earn more.
Your perspective allows you to view it this way, I can say the same for you. It's rational to suggest that a majority of the financial contributions came from the person making 200k, and not the jobless person.
Perhaps one day you will define contribution as encompassing other than mere finances.
She did raise me, and I believe she did a poor job at it. As you've said, contributions are assumed, not promised. Household contributions can't be measured, but financial contributions can. The only problem with changing divorce in the legal system to reflect financial earnings would be the drastic increase in divorce lawyers... Though I admit experiences like mine do vary, I would still be on board for such a drastic change.
I am sorry about your feelings toward your mom, as clearly they color your perception of women in general. As for household contributions, they most certainly are measured. Speak with an actuary or any insurance agent. You leave out the most important part of the financial determination during divorce; children, made by two & entitled to be supported by two in the manner which those two agreed to support them. This is the basis of the determination of funds awarded to a custodial parent and to an extent, alimony, which is not a given these days anyway.
Forgive me but I'm too young to get what you're saying here. All I know is I've always been philosophically against marriage, specifically after hearing divorce results in a default 50% split regardless of situation.
I don't feel the need to forgive you, as you are entitled to your opinion and at least remain respectful. Philosophy has little to do with finance. To be honest, you sound quite like a wounded child, & I do feel for you. The situation is always that marriage is a legal partnership, a legal contract which acknowledges that both parties make contributions which allow them to gain assets, assets which are shared after the partnership dissolves. It's pretty simple, really.
Pregnancies and parenting seem to prevent women from advancing to higher positions
Keep in mind that parenting is seen by some to be one of the highest positions they can attain. Not everything is measured in dollars. I am hopeful that one day you may find that out.
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Women have it easier than men!!
Posted: 5/6/2013 9:27:01 PM
I think the point here is that either sex can be said to have it easier, given a specific situation. The truth is that neither truly have it easier on the grand scale. There are differences, most assuredly but in any given situation, it is what it is, and like most things perception is colored by personal experience, and it is reality.
ohwhynot46
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Women have it easier than men!!
Posted: 5/6/2013 9:09:40 PM
Recently my mom(Jan) has divorced her 2nd husband, the marriage lasted a decade up till now. During the marriage she had almost no jobs, the only jobs she ever had were minimal pay. Meanwhile her husband has a 200k salary, working every weekday and commuting miles to get to his job. Throughout the years Jan has spent a lot of the cash her husband had made. Well the moment I became an adult, it seems Jan was scheming to divorce her husband. It seems to have finally happened, and of course, Jan is guaranteed 50% of all her husband's money, including my college funds. To top it off, her husband must pay her $2000 a month for the next 5years.
She is not paid that amount because of her gender, but because marriage creates an equal partnership. Monies earned during the marriage are joint funds, and both parties are (or should be; ignorance of the law is not a defense) aware of that when they enter into the legal marriage contract. Her contributions are assumed; had she not contributed he would not have been able to earn those funds. It is only your perspective that allows you to view it this way. It is not a matter of law, nor is it a result of gender bias in the legal system.
In the midwest: The only gender inequality favoring men are biological factors; men being the physically dominant sex. Otherwise, the cultural bias supports women more than men just a little bit, but on a massive scale when it comes to the legal system. It seems in society's efforts to even the playing field, it creates inequity. Divorce should in no circumstance involve a 50/50 split, it should be based on whether you sat on your ass doing squat or whether you financially contributed to your household.
Again, that is your take, not the legal basis for decisions favoring otherwise. Contributions are more than merely financial. Do you suggest there be no consideration for the forfeiture of income, retirement funding, SS, medical insurance, etc., resulting from remaining at home to raise children (for example)? Is that really your idea of sitting on your ass doing squat? I assume you have no children. Contributions are not, and I see no reason why they should be, based solely on the financial. Even if they were, you must at least allow for the cost of child care, house cleaning, etc., where applicable. As an aside, check out the cost of child care; you might be in for a shock. In the majority of cases, it is both parties who agree that one of them will forego earnings, work experience (affecting future income), the ability to support oneself. Why should both parties not then equally bear the cost of this forfeiture in the eventual breakup? You seem to suggest that the party who forfeits these things should suffer from a choice made by two. Lest we forget, the legal contract that is marriage results in one legal entity, similar to a corporation, split equally upon dissolution. Contributions are assumed by virtue of the contract KNOWINGLY entered into by both parties, not merely financially equal.
ohwhynot46
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My Boyfriend's Dog
Posted: 5/6/2013 8:51:33 PM
Personally, and as fellow dog lover, I don't believe that this is about obedience nor manipulative behavior. Dogs know no such thing. They are pack animals, and neither you nor your bf is perceived as leader by the dog. It is time for your bf to assert himself. Luckily ( I guess) the dog isn't bigger, or you'd both be in trouble. It's not about attention, it's about dominance & perhaps anxiety. I agree, Cesar Milan! Seriously, a good book about dog behavior might be in order. Good luck!
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Online Dating=Unhealthy?
Posted: 5/6/2013 8:29:53 PM
I think it's all about the power of your mind. I love human behaviour and interaction, it amazes me to no end. This place is just pure education in the subject.
I so agree! Several years' experience in the world of online dating has afforded me quite an education in human nature. Anything to which one gives too much credence is unhealthy.
ohwhynot46
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Women have it easier than men!!
Posted: 5/6/2013 8:27:26 PM
This is a generalization and it involves western civilization, not the third world. I know that in many cultures women are still treated in very poorly, but in western civilization, it's time for them to own up to the fact that they are treated better than men.
You admit it's a generalization, and you are right. Why, then do you buy into it? Just because women aren't treated poorly in western civilization doesn't mean that they are treated better than men.
Yule is right in that we humans, men & women alike choose the victim role as an excuse. Cut it out!
ohwhynot46
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Is Texting Cheating?
Posted: 5/6/2013 8:21:41 PM
He has a GF and his texts have crossed the line. Why don't you tell him that
Never mind telling him anything; why are you participating? What exactly is it that makes a man in a relationship with someone else ok for you to flirt with?
ohwhynot46
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Young guy dating a girl with a child - would you?
Posted: 5/6/2013 5:48:25 PM
HTM, I applaud your honesty and your ability to remain respectful whilst voicing it.
As for this:
Even if she's not trash, the whole situation is trash for the man.
Remember, perception is reality, and all of the stepparents out there are not likely to share your view. To each their own. Thank God for my stepdad!
ohwhynot46
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Learned my lesson dating a single parent
Posted: 5/5/2013 10:30:14 AM
Just curious: whilst we wage the war against marriage, whom will you find to date as more & more children are born out of wedlock?
ohwhynot46
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High IQ Vs High EI
Posted: 4/30/2013 7:26:20 PM
EI means Emotional intelligence. I am getting pressed on the subject heavily at the moment. IBM invested tons of money into this project for a reason, trust me. Kasparov lost the battle, but not the war.
Just like I accepted I did not know much about evolution, I am asking you kindly to read more on the subject. I can't give you any good links, it's too complex, but I promise it poses huge questions on our understanding of the world today.
I admit I haven't read too much on the subject, but I don't really need to. Evidence abounds, particularly in this section of these particular fora. As I've said before, if you aren't understood by the masses, you are unable to communicate & unable to make a point. There are reasons why IQ alone does not suffice. EI counts.
ohwhynot46
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Psychotic or Logical
Posted: 4/22/2013 7:02:01 PM
This is gonna sound douchey and I apologize for that, but I find people who say that about stats have no formal training on the topic.
Most people don't have formal training on the topic, and that's the point. We all use logic, philosophy & statistics to make a point. I apologize as well, but one's inabillity to connect with the masses, to communicate in such a way that others can interpret & understand whilst remaining grounded enough so as to realize that perception is reality doesn't simply make one "douchey", it renders them inapable of effective communication. If you aren't understood by the masses, you can't make a point at all.
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Does Religion cause Wars
Posted: 4/12/2013 8:05:33 PM
Parents should teach their kids to QUESTION authority more than respect it. Failure to do so is only training children to grow up to be obedient servants & soldiers, whose sense of morality comes from an outer authority more than their own conscience.
One would have thought we'd have learned something from the Nuremberg trials, but it certainly doesn't appear so. I blame the average parent for creating the society of obedient slaves that we have today.
As far as I am concerned, parents should teach their children to both respect & question authority. Failure to do so results in persons unable to function successfully in society. I have yet to come across the "obedient slaves" to which you refer, but I have encountered a seeming plethora of parents who defend every disrespectful, intrusive & offensive behavior performed by their children, in the name of "expression" and some misguided notion of civil rights. I blame those parents for creating a society where kids comsider their teachers peers, expect instant gratification & have no inkling of what it is to earn your own way. It's all about perception, I suppose.
ohwhynot46
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Psychotic or Logical
Posted: 4/12/2013 7:56:02 PM
Philosophy creates theories that can be destroyed by logic, not by empirical tests
Interesting... I look at philosophy as the use of logic so as to argue with oneself in order to win, no matter which side you choose. Like statistics, philosophical arguments can be skewed so as to prove opposing viewpoints. I love it so!
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Does Religion cause Wars
Posted: 4/11/2013 8:00:12 PM
Religion inculcates within people at an early age to obey and respect authority
As does being a parent. So, if one were to claim that their declaration of war was done in the name of parenting, you would deem parenting the cause?
There is a vast difference between attending church and blind adherance. You assume complete ignorance; not only unfair & untrue, but ignorant in & of itself. Religion also inculcates respect for self & others, a sense of community & personal responsibility. Are you just as willing to credit religion with all the good that comes from those attributes?
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Psychotic or Logical
Posted: 4/11/2013 7:51:40 PM
What do you believe? For me it is rational to view outcomes in positive manners. I believe that all human behaviour is subject to a favourable outcome. Everything that we do is reward based or subject to the aversion of punishments. If you can think of another frame were this would be better understood that would be great!
Perhaps I should rephrase, as I wasn't alluding to my personal beliefs. Utilitarianism does not weigh the evil against the good, it maximizes happiness for the masses. It is an ethical theory intended to measure morality by the outcome of actions, and is usually directed at society, rather than the effect on an individual. I think your scenario would be classified as "extreme utilitarianism" and even subscribers to the theory acknowledge that taking the time to make such a (personal & self directed) decision would result in missing the opportunity to make any decision at all. If it were as simple as always choosing that which brings the greatest reward, certainly you would choose your own child, always. I guess the resulting question, as you present it, would be the greatest reward TO WHOM? Immorality is not supported by theory as a general rule, in any case.
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Psychotic or Logical
Posted: 4/10/2013 4:45:10 PM
Your logic works, certainly, however you have left out the element of humanity. In truth, by the time most of us made such decisions, the children would be dead. In truth, without knowing the five children we can not guage the "greatest good"; 3 of the 5 may turn out to be criminals, murderers, etc. , all justifiable excuses for those who decide differently than you. Just as logical (for them) and just as valid. "For the greater good" is usually about making a decision encompassing a period of time or affectiong the masses, utilized so as to enact legislation or to gain power on an individual level. Not a decision made in a split second. The empathy felt by humans is not ruled by logic, nor directed by logic. The presentation of the scenario by your friend was not likely to provoke empathy for most, and it is more likely than not that an actual scenario would have you making a decision outside of the terms logic would dictate. Otherwise, perhaps you are a psychopath! (jk.... kinda).
btw, I don't believe that the lesser of two evils = the greater ood, relative to Utilitarianism.
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Wow. What a nutjob!
Posted: 4/4/2013 7:46:22 PM
I'm wondering why op would offer her his old pots & pans, but more than that, I'm wondering why he is corresponding with a woman who already has a guy!
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The school bully
Posted: 4/4/2013 7:41:06 PM
OP, I have to tell ya, I applaud you for being what appears to be a decent, caring young parent. You must realize, though, that you do come across as more than a bit defensive & immature. It would seem that your response to learning of your child's behavior was appropriate, yet I am left to wonder if YOU learned the needed lesson here. No more inappropropriate video games or movies, despite how you turned out, even after such exposure, and I might suggest that you refrain from acting towards others in the manner you have displayed here in front of your child. btw, name calling is not, in & of itself, bullying, and there are many of us who have never nor ever will bully. Bullying involves intimidation and an exhibition of power, and more often than not is indicative of low self esteem rather than a call for attention. Punish all you want, talk all you want, the truth is, kids learn by modeling. As those who have been parents for many years know all too well, it IS all your fault. All the best!
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Kids in bed
Posted: 4/4/2013 7:24:42 PM
Do not allow him into your house, until you are ready to introduce him to the children.
This is just basic logic, nothing more. As you say, the kids can wake up at any time.
But there's something past that which bothers me:
He knows you aren't ready for him to meet your children. He knows you don't want him interacting with them. He knows that this is all important to you.
But he is so selfish, he is asking you to set your concerns about your children aside, for his simple pleasure.
While I completely agree, I don't see any indication from the OP that suggests any such attitude from the man she is posting about. I took it as a general question. Let's not slay the poor guy prematurely!
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POSTING PICTURES WITH KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 4/4/2013 7:19:57 PM
Without that, a pic is absolutely meaningless (zero risk). Get it?
This is really not difficult
Without that, what reason to post anything at all on a dating site?
Look, I get your point, but you do seem to be talking down to anyone who disagrees with even one word you type. What you call carelessness is the normal outcome of human interaction. Not to mention that those who might actually pose a risk are using every means possible to glean information, and they are often not only very good at it but very patient , taking enough time to earn the trust of a potential victim.
For the rest of us, it doesn't seem that difficult to understand both sides of the argument, without resorting to insulting the intelligence of others. Perhaps we all have our own dysfunctional methods of self empowerment?
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POSTING PICTURES WITH KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 4/2/2013 8:14:22 PM
How is it so difficult to understand that, if you inadvertantly mention your child's name, and that you are going "down the street" (after several discussions with an online suitor, having already mentioned the town in which you live) to pick them up at the local park from softball practice, you now potentially have a stranger who can easily figure/find out where your child may be, show up, call them by name, and make them their next victim? We have already agreed that familiarity breaks down one's defenses, and therefore makes that child an easier target than if they were approached by a complete stranger. Having seen a photo makes that child easier to identify, and the additional info provides the familiarity. To ignore that a photo provides additional information while denying the reality that is human nature, to give out and/or glean information via everyday, light hearted conversation, is a disingenuous way to prove your point. Never mind the fact that a predator isn't merely engaging in light hearted, everyday converstion; they are looking to increase their odds of "success". When it comes to the safety of children, it seems better to be wrong in this case. I understand perfectly, thank you. There will be no photos of my children posted here.
You seem to have a need to harp on "only posting a photo", but that is not reality. Not even about semantics, simply a dogged refusal to accept what actually occurs between individuals participating on dating sites. Guess what? Putting up a profile & never contacting anyone nor responding to any attempted contacts means that dating sites provide no opportunity for actually getting dates. Just as ridiculous a statement, following the same logic.
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POSTING PICTURES WITH KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 4/2/2013 7:59:40 PM
Actually, I don't agree. If you simply post a photo of your child(ren) with no participation in the site there is something wrong with you! Revealing inormation happens as a matter of discussion, every day & everywhere. I would feel very safe stating that more often than not, we reveal more than we intend & don't realize until after we blurt out info. Anything that might make it easier for someone out to get a child is more than a "supposed" danger; no matter how remote, it remains a danger. I am not challenging you, I am disagreeing with you. There IS a risk, no matter how small. Whether you choose to believe it or not is your prerogative.
It is a FACT, just a surely as it is a fact that crossing the street involves risk. But at least you need to get to the other side.
I, for one, don't need to have my child, or know personally of a child who fell victim thusly in order to have "proof" so as to make the decision to avoid such an uneccesary risk. Then again, I taught my kids to cross at corners as opposed to the middle of the street. To each their own, I guess.
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in which ways are you older and wiser after your experience in dating sites?
Posted: 4/2/2013 7:52:49 PM
Older & wiser cuz I've been here for quite awhile! I have been on this particular site for several years, met or dated more than 20 men in less than a year, removed my photo, posted a profile intended to dissuade and remain here to enjoy the forums.The truth is that internet dating is a great study in human nature.
-It's so easy to hide behind a monitor; utterances "spoken" online would rarely leave the lips of the "speaker" during a chance meeting with a stranger.
- We really haven't changed all that much. Men still tell you what they think you want to hear, and women still aim to hear it!
- The internet has made the world so big, yet so small. We are the same, all around the world.
- It is too easy to get a date online, if you are at least average looking & have a photo; if you're on the slim side, well, the world is your oyster; without a photo, little to no "hits".
In the end, internet dating is not very different from "real life" dating, in that your odds aren't increased, only the numbers involved are higher.
Good luck!
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POSTING PICTURES WITH KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 4/2/2013 7:39:51 PM
But I'm sorry, there is just NO RISK of harm or danger by simply posting a pic
I'm sorry, but if you are simply posting pics, with no intent nor actual normal human communications, why on earth would you be on a dating site to begin with? C'mon, the truth is that you simply don't want to back off. Of course, there is a risk! There is a risk in nearly everything we do. Choices involve risk/benefit analysis, and I simply can see no benefit to posting photos of children on a dating site. I respect everyone's opinion as well, but I can't imagine any good, for anyone, coming from posting a child's picture on a dating site.
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POSTING PICTURES WITH KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 3/31/2013 8:09:46 PM
No one ever suggested that pedophiles jump through computer screens, but there is NOT zero risk involved when choosing to post a photo of one's child(ren) on a dating site. It is most certainly NOT necessary to "allow" a predator in your life . They don't have "only a pic" once they have contacted you & begun a dialogue. Often such dialogue includes discussion of where you may be headed today, perhaps to the ballfield for your 6 yr. old's softball game? You might be surprised how much information can be gleaned in a 45 min. conversation. Even if you decide not to meet someone, they may know your child's name/age/school/involvement in sports etc. , and the fact that they may have seen an image of your child undeniably enhances any risk. How often does that need to happen in order for you to decide it poses zero risk to your own child?
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AS A SINGLE DAD HOW DOES A MAN COPE WITH ISSUES OF CHILD NEGLECT FROM THE MOTHER
Posted: 3/31/2013 7:50:20 PM
She needs to know that he's the one that made the mistake not her. And when she's 15 I'm sure idiot isn't going to be the word coming out of her mouth.
To be honest, I can't imagine why it is that you think a young child needs to know that. Truth is, a young child will place the blame on themself for the fact that someone else does not love them, no matter what you tell them. She won't know that until she is old enough & self aware enough to be able to grasp the concept. By the age of 15, she may be doing far more harmful things to herself in order to capture the love of the opposite sex, if you keep spouting off such statements. You're doing your child a disservice. Don't you think it's already hard enough for her? Please don't allow your hatred of the person that YOU chose to father your child to harm your child. Always remember that that was your choice, not the child's and reflects just as strongly on you as it does the absent parent. It is much more comfortable for a child to aim their anger (and point the blame at) the parent they trust in to love them, and that is you; don't set yourself up for that.
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POSTING PICTURES WITH KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 3/31/2013 7:13:35 PM
Posting innocuous pics of your children on POF poses ZERO risk of harm or danger.
Let me repeat, ZERO risk of harm or danger.
Certainly we all have a right to our opinons, but please don't post as if you are stating absolute fact. Of course there is a risk involved in everything we do, and you may tell yourself that posting pics of your kids on a dating site is no more harmful than taking them to the park. That is your choice, but it doesn't negate the risk. Just so you know, I know a man in law enforcement working a case on a dating site, a case in which men chatted with single moms, finding out their children's names, where they lived & what school they went to. It wasn't that hard to do, and some men spent several months, up to a year or more gleaning information from unsuspecting moms. You can't possibly believe that such a person would not find their ultimate goal more easily met were they to have seen a picture of one of those children. Even if it happens once, it IS a risk, and some are not willing to take that risk.
Stating that you have children is not the equivalent of posting their photos, and we should be wary of any new person with whom we come in contact. There is virtually nothing that carries ZERO risk of harm or danger.
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do men actually exist that date women with kids??
Posted: 3/1/2013 3:38:35 PM
Even if the parent says they dont want your income, eventually the incomes Will combine. If times are tough, its hard to not look at someone elses kids and think, we could afford to fix the subaru if she didnt have those kids.
You are 100% right, and I appreciate your posting in a nonoffensive manner. There are, however, a select group of those who can look at someone else's kids & think: "We could afford to fix the Subaru if WE didn't have higher priority expenses".
Certainly, having children is one more roadblock to get past in a relationship. But if you do look at it that way, simply another roadblock (let's face it, there are many) you are a good candidate for single parent relationships.
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POSTING PICTURES WITH KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 2/21/2013 8:23:09 PM
this will not stop the self-aggrandizers from tooting their own misguided horns for all to hear
It doesn't have to be self aggrandizing to point out that not making an "extra" potentially dangerous walk across the street is not advisable. It is not misguided to state that there exists a potential danger, with no potential benefit, to advertise one's children on the internet. It is a fact. What benefit is there to posting a picture of a child on a dating web site? Isn't it enough to simply state that you have one? Can't you be proud of your childrne without posting a picture of them? Does it really seem misguided to you to simply believe that posting a photo here is taking an unnecessary risk? Those risks that parents do take with their children at least have a "cost-benefit" ratio. Shouldn't they?
The stats don't really matter, as, if even one child has been a victim, wouldn't you prefer that that one victim not be YOUR child? The argument should not by why not to post a pic of children on a dating website, but why would you do so? To what end?
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Why are most women ''afraid of science/technology?
Posted: 2/21/2013 8:11:16 PM
Why do you equate disinterest (or, more aptly, not priority) with fear?
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Should performing a background check on a potential bf/gf be considered as a sign of insecurity?
Posted: 2/19/2013 8:18:14 PM
Nothing wrong with it as far as I'm concerned. Not specific to men or women either, really. It may simply be that men feel safer, physically speaking. To be honest I think 15 pages of this is a bit much. Internet "meeting", background check comes with the territory. Just another sign of the times.
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Single Mothers
Posted: 2/14/2013 4:30:11 PM
I have often suggested being a married parent working or keeping your marriage healthy and being a parent is probably more work......and I understand the premise of not being able to get up at a moments notice or spur of the moment....
I hear ya, but it is true that being the ONLY ONE all the time is a different kind of, and is more taxing, even if not literally MORE work.
But Love....your suggestion of sharing? You want to share your life...or when you have a free weekend every other weekend you want someone available when it is convenient to you? Somehow when I was raising my children I do not remember ever teaching them sharing was when it was convienent you shared????
But perhaps sharing for some is a little different? Many individuals seek a companion...but that suggests a relationship or equal effort or commitment by both parties....not someone who is willing to settle for something less than optimum.
I never has an issue when a single mother viewed my time as a custodial parent as an impediment to building a relationship especially when she had her own " primary parent" role. It is perhaps the single parent who has a very full schedule and expects someone to wait for when they have free time is in fact the selfish one.
Cautious doesn't necessarily equal selfish. We are all selfish to an extent, anyway. You share your life in stages, and when you have children there are more, or at least longer stages. Deterrent for some for sure, and sometimes you have to wait, wait to be included in a family. Sometimes it's worth the wait.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 7:08:18 PM
Well, it's either, "The children come first!", or it's, "My happiness comes before the children!" It can't be both... Koko
That may well qualify as the most ignorant post in these forums. I won't even bother to explain why, as any individual with a modicum of intelligence already knows this.
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Marriage, do you believe in it, why/not?
Posted: 1/30/2013 10:43:58 PM
I hardly think it is about "believing" in marriage, as certainly it exists. For me, personally, I see no need for marriage unless kids are in the mix (call me old fashioned, but, whatever...), not because I don't believe in the institution as it was intended in its' entirety, but because of what is has become in society.
It seems a bit unfair to suggest that the decline of the nuclear family is the fault of feminism, as it is nearly impossible for most to exist on one income, and that is often what this view boils down to: money, and the view of what is "mine". Gone, it would seem, is the notion of "ours" and there is little recognition on the part of both parties as to the contribution of the other party. It is disingenuous of you to state why it is that women are filing for divorce, as you know not, in reality, who does so for any particular reason. We all have our stories, and there are three sides to every single one of them. Sadly, perception is reality. From where I stand, there are so many factors leading to the dissolution of the family unit; loss of the sense of community, inability to form personal relationships & general selfishness, all stemming from advances in/relaiance upon technology, an emphasis on material wealth and the like which lead to the inability or refusal to acknowledge that a successful marriage takes work & personal sacrifice, hard work by two individuals with a common goal & the drive to put an equal amount of effort into it. It's not really about man vs. woman, but rather about the denial of a couple.
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Single Mothers
Posted: 1/30/2013 10:22:01 PM
A woman who still doesn't get it. It's off-putting to men. Show me ONE guy's profile that says, "Looking for a single mother who will neglect her kids, to spend time with me!" It's a GIVEN that a single mother will devote her focus first and foremost to her children. Why do so many women feel the need to state the obvious? Is it so you can club some guy down the road with, "I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'D BE SO SELFISH AS TO ASK ME TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU!!!"?
Look, EVERYONE makes sacrifices to be in a relationship. Saying stuff like, "My kids come first!" is just stupid and contentious. Among other things, it paints you as a kudos-seeking martyr.
Wow!! For once, I actually agree with you. I do think, however, that this topic brings to light the fact that dating, particularly internet dating, is an education in human nature. To be fair, many single parents experience an attitude towards them that suggest that those who seek to meet them assume they are nothing more than a casual sexual partner, due to the fact that having kids makes dating & relationships more difficult. It's off-putting to men because men & women think differently, hear differently & have different experiences in the dating world. Still, I have never felt the need to explain that my kids are my first priority. Admittedly, though I have had to explain that even if not in those words, to those I have dated. I also admit that many men are not so used to that, as many single moms (and dads, I am sure) have been faced with a sulky individual who simply can't understand why they can't just show up at their home after two or three dates or make plans at the last minute. People can be selfish.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:17:43 PM
Saying that women file for divorce more than men, does indeed say something about the genders: it says that women file more than men. It logically follows that one would wanna investigate the reasons, but it all b0ils down to, they want to, and they can. Stop being dumb.
You are quite right in that the above is ALL it says. If you read back, however, you suggest women are responsible for the national debt, that women seek nothing more than to force "dad out of the house", and imply that if they do not choose to remain in bad situations & unhappy (even abusive) marriages, they are causing their children to suffer. In your words, "stop being dumb"!
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How do I tell a friend I cant go with her to kill another baby?
Posted: 1/29/2013 10:04:08 PM
Wrong. Abortion(s) as well.
Abortion is not, for the majority, certainly not for the medical community, named as form of birth control.
This may sound cruel but I don't think twice about killing roaches, if it hasn't had a chance to develop a mind, if it is living on pure instinct it doesn't have a life yet.
First of all, fetuses (embryos, the unborn, what have you) do NOT live on instinct; what an ignorant statement! Furthermore, abortion is a medical procedure involving more than just "the roach", not without risk and/or consequence to the related party. What is "yet"? For those who can not function as you do, who can not think, who suffer from innumerable conditions which may render them "without a mind", so to speak, does life ever begin, as per you? An iota of thought process on your part might serve you well. You never know what your future holds. You are pro choice because we should all be made equal, financially?! Income is not a right! What are you smoking?!?
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:10:05 PM
You're such an azz! You NEED to read between the lines in order to continue to post. You are 100% wrong; that is not what I state & not at all how I feel. I am merely pointing out that saying that women file for divorce more often than men, without adressing the reasons that couples divorce, says nothing at all about either gender. It is you who continually point out the evils of the "fairer sex". In truth, both parties suffer from a lower standard of living post divorce, and women moreso than men, so one needn't assume that money is the motivator for women. The motivator is, however, a pertinent factor. Your assumptions are simply that, assumptions, with no basis in reality or facts. Just so we're clear; I believe that a failed marriage is far more often than not the fault of both parties. There are no lines between which to read. Grow up, already!
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:19:08 PM
It is not at all nonsensical to address the reasons why someone would file for divorce. To observe a social trend is not the equivalent of stating why it is that women (or anyone, for that matter) file for divorce, and your "observations" are nothing of the sort, merely a poorly veiled attempt to place blame on women & to suggest that collecting cs is income. I call THAT BS. Truth is, the current social trend is that more men are seeking shared custody and/or primary custody, often successfully (and rightly) so; your observation dovetails with nothing but your own bitter view of women. You make intelligent discourse impossible.
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How do I tell a friend I cant go with her to kill another baby?
Posted: 1/24/2013 10:27:51 PM
I can't believe that in 2013 people can be so judgmental and stupid. I personally would prefer the women had an abortion than had the unwanted child and the child witnessed the horrible things in this world that a child should never see.
Some of you idiots dont seem to realize that the kids this woman would have had would have been on OUR pockets. Shes done the word and the unborn a favor. Do you people really think a woman with multiple fathers and likely none in the picture is going to successfully raise 6 kids?
Who cares what you personally prefer, or how you feel about supporting "unwanted" children? If an indivdual is uncomfortable with a specific scenario they should not participate. I don't see this as a question regarding abortion, but aboout one's inability to stand up for their personal beliefs. If you are uncomfortable with doing something, say so & don't do it.
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Is it rude to put physical preferences in your profile?
Posted: 1/24/2013 10:20:42 PM
Honesty, unless it is devoid of tact, is never rude!
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Anybody ever hear of a GF who refuses to go to a conert...EVER?
Posted: 1/24/2013 10:19:49 PM
Is it about concerts, music, crowds, anxiety....? It does matter, doesn't it?
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:56:26 PM
Some people really have the victim mentality down pat. Please illustrate when I have ever called you a name or called you an ass? Can we go back through your replies and see how often you resort to name calling??
I wasn't replying to you, Tealwood. I am not, have never been nor have ever claimed to be anyone's victim.
Why do you suggest you are being bullied here…ohwhynot.....because someone is not rolling over to your supposed greater wisdom and knowledge? You get challenged or feel you get bullied at every situation where individuals disagree with your narrow selective views…or just when the guys do not fall in line…or is that roll over to your views of the truth?
And why should you feel sorry for their offspring? Because it enables you a sense of superiority in your own parenting?
The suggestion that someone else uses bullying tactics to get a point across is not the equivalent of stating that I feel bullied. It is not disagreement that evidences bullying, rather an approach, a tactic taken by some in an attempt to deflect attention from the discussion at hand. Perhaps a reread might be in order. If you were to do so, and I reiterate, I do indeed feel sorry for the child whose parent(s) seeks to educate them in such a manner that results in the belief that bully's rule. In the end, they are raising a bully rather a well rounded individual who contributes to the betterment of society.
And if you look at the statistics in fact many of the woman suggested there were problems when the men did not see any issues….there are numbers that suggest the women were dissatisfied in the marriage…that the men did not support their needs enough…while at the same time many of the men were surprised and blindsided by the level of dissatisfaction by their wives…..would those statistics be valid for your consideration? They do exist indicating woman felt there problems while the husband was unaware. After all they support your premise? But are those numbers relevant and factual since the numbers debunking your belief are irrelevant? Or are you one who likes her cake…as long as she is the only one who can eat the cake?
Certainly some women are never satisfied, and certainly some men married women they were aware could not be satisfied. Still, the statistics don't even attempt to answer why. Why is it that a man whose wife requested counseling, or more together time is "blindsided" when she presents him with divorce papers? Not vastly different than the woman who refuses her husband sex being shocked when she discovers he has a mistress. Ignoring utterances of dissatisfaction, downplaying the concern of a partner, acting in a manner displaying complete disrespect or disregard for the stated needs of a parrtner, regardless of gender, is valid and certainly points towards the insignificance of the percentage of who is filing for divorce. Claims of surprise are not necessarily genuine, nor are they hard evidence of facts. Is being "surpirsed" at finding out that a man who one woman believed to be the father of her child is not a valid defense for "paternity fraud", then? Numbers aren't irrelevant, they are merely deficient as far as the whole story.
But that would then beg the question…why are woman so much less satisfied with their lives and direction of their married lives…and as statistics also indicate…second marriages fail at an even larger percentage….and as woman initiated divorces more than men…woman were more dissatisfied with the marriage and the interaction between the parties….woman supposedly identified more problems and men were unable or unwilling to deal with issues…is the problem men being unwilling to work at the marriages…or woman being less able to deal with the realities that life will not be a fairy tale? Perhaps we need to ask….is there anything that will satisfy some woman?
But it might also beg the question.. why are men so much less inclined to take action, why are men lazy? less involved? less participatory?, were one inclined to take that stance, wouldn't it? Perhaps men are less inclined to take action, so long as they have clean underwear & dinner on the table. Perhaps we need to ask what it is that will spur men to action, to seek not only to satisfy but to attain satisfaction for the partnership? The numbers lend themselves to subjective interpretation; proof of nothing objectively. The problem is whatever the individual decides it to be, and the numbers prove that either way.
It is slowly being seen more and more…but it is not supported through legislation or established laws in the family courts. It is therefore questionable for anyone to suggest there is real change when there is no actual legal principle allowing that supposed change. Can you acknowledge that concept? Perhaps what perhaps is more accurate is some woman realize they are not interested in being a mother just like they realize they are not interested in being married.
Agreed, it is, as more & more men are seeking involvement. Family court is not necessailry about established law, but a case by case basis. If you are wont to utilize your statistics, a fairly high percentage (approx. 70%) of men who seek custody prevail. The only governing legal principles are "best interest of the child" and "primary caregiver" Let's be fair.
In fact N.O.W. and a number of other woman advocacy groups are now against the premise of shared custody as it removes or diminishes control of the primary custodial mother. Or is that diminishes $$$$$$$$$$ returns? But as we have seen here…having control of the children is very important to many mothers…anywhere from controlling access that they determine as appropriate…to how many Barbie dolls or when MP3 players are appropriate in their opinion.
Exercising or mandating primary control! I would be curious to see if you want to argue that is not the position of NOW?
I couldn't care less about NOW. I have no interest nor affiliation with such organizations, although I might suggest that your claim to know why they take a particular stance serves only to further your own organization affiliate's agenda. Extremes are rarely evidentiary nor particularly healthy, as far as I am concerned. I haven't actually seen much discussion on this specific thread as far as controlling access to children, etc. but I grant that children are used as pawns. In the real world, I see both children & the almighty dollar as issues on both sides of the gender fence, and equally as disgusting. In part, it is why I do support the widely used basis for cs calculations. Unfortunately, the love for a child often goes by the wayside when money & control come into play; no more for one gender than another, simply a sad fact of life.
So yes…Ohwhynot…I have seen and read some studies on both sides of the table and unlike your myopic beliefs I suggest there should be no free passes to either side of the table. Expect and demand the same accountability and responsibility on both sides of the table….yet you suggest it is alright to work part time and require full time from the father.
As to lowering cs …Marine500….we might not agree completely here…..balancing the adjusted lifestyle in both homes….as both parents have to take financial responsibility for the adjusted lifestyle…. The lifestyle may not be what it was prior to the separation…just like the lifestyle may not be what it was prior to one or both of the parents losing their jobs…but I support the premise of requiring both parents to actually hold down employment….I might even have some acceptance of equalization of income streams in both homes…but that would be contingent on both parties being employed at a level commiserate with their education and employment history….that would leave out 50% of custodial mothers who are not employed or not employed full time!
Cry us a river, ohwhynot as you are after all the perfect illustration of the poor victim who was bullied…because some individuals had the audacity to not blindly follow your reasoning’s and rational……and then they suggest…..I did everything to make the marriage work and he just never appreciated or understood I was right…and he was wrong
I am not crying at all. I have provided little of my personal situation, and the truth is I do not feel it pertinent to the discusssion. That I believe it "alright" for a full time custodial parent to work outside of the home part time is not gender correlative, although it may be custodial related. It may be in the best interest of the child, and often the best financial decision. It is YOU who are making it a gender issue. For me, it can often be shown to be a wise financial decision and is for the most part limited, inso far as the children will grow older. That you fail to acknowledge that that has been the jist of my argument is on you; your shortcoming & diplay of envy & bitterness. If you never had kids, were never married, yet earned more by working less hours, wouldn't you be a fool to work more hours & earn less? C'mon!
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Posted: 1/23/2013 4:53:07 PM
Ho-hum. Women file for divorce:
1. Because they want to.
2. Because they can.
So say you, and you, as we all know from your participation, are the end all as to why anyone does anything, right? Spare me the drivel, your post is as self serving & useless as if I were to state that if more men put down the remote & removed their hand from their pants, they'd be filing first. You make me laugh!
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Paternity fraud might come to an end
Posted: 1/23/2013 4:45:49 PM
So, for nine singles cases of newborn infected HIV from mother transmission in two years... a law was enacted.
Don't kid yourself that that is the case. Far more likely that cost analysis showed a potential savings to involved government agencies. Just sayin'...
So, for nine singles cases of newborn infected HIV from mother transmission in two years... a law was enacted.Yet, regardless of over 300,000 birth in the same two years in that State alone -considering just the 3% of probability of "mistaken paternity" which can be quantified as 9, 000 cases- it´s defended the holy "right to privacy" while cheating.
Depsends on how you choose to look at it, as mandating DNA testing could easily be seen as a violation of the rights of MEN. In that case, I guess you have proven that the government favors the rights of men's privacy over the rights of women's.
This is not about women cheating, it's about government mandates & citizen's rights, ALL citizens.
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Does this change your mind about spanking your child?
Posted: 1/23/2013 4:36:22 PM
In order for me to take your posts "out of context", they'd first have to BE in some sort of context. Aside from your verbose statements which essentially boil down to, "Spanking is bad because I say so!", your posts make very little sense, and have gotten the replies they deserve...
I actually said nothing like that at all. I thought I had been quite clear in that I am stating that I don't believe, and have seen no evidence at all presented, that spanking teaches children how to behave appropriately, nor is it a logical consequence following the behaviors described in the scenarios presented. You have a seeming need to provoke an argument otherwise directed. Simply because I am not buying in to it, doesn't make me a "sore head", whatever that may be.....Very little sense to you is fairly meaningless, as you seem to have no other agenda to promote than that you know what everyone else really thinks or comprehends. I have no more time to waste; keep telling yourself that which you so enjoy hearing.
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