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 Author Thread: met my 1st psycho ( might belong in the humor section)(Long read)
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 32 (view)
 
met my 1st psycho ( might belong in the humor section)(Long read)
Posted: 11/22/2009 1:19:57 PM
You were planning to drive after drinking from 2 p.m. until 11 p.m.? Maybe that's why she "stole" your keys. Oh, you had a hide-a-key box. So, you DID drive after drinking from 2 p.m. until 11 p.m. Nice.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 59 (view)
 
Are there women/men who wait as long as 6 mos. before sex?
Posted: 11/17/2009 3:16:16 PM

I don't want a man who has so little self-control he has to "get his sexual needs met elsewhere" if we're building a relationship.
I wouldn't have sex until we'd dated long enough to decide to become exclusive, monogamous and committed AND the STD tests had come back clean.
That would be at least 6 months. If a man can't deal with that, he's free to go find a woman with lower standards and relief himself.


Absolutely agree. I prefer to wait a lil while, three months is about what I feel comfortable with. But once its on its on lol

Oh, dear. Second poster thinks she is agreeing, but since she's a three-month girl to the first poster's "at least six months," she actually outing herself as one of those "lower standards" women. Mind you, I guess that means someone who waits a year is twice the "quality" of the six-month lady. Complicated, but amusing.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 33 (view)
 
The other side of WTF was he thinking?
Posted: 11/16/2009 1:45:06 PM

Reading comprehension? Newberrys responded reasonably to the insufficient information YOU provided.

Yes, reading comprehension. I'm not going to get involved in the fight about whether the OP is being rude to posters, but his original post clearly stated that the woman in question was upset that he didn't make a pass at her. Obviously, there's always the other side of the story to keep in the back of our minds, but if we decide to respond to the facts, as given, it only makes sense to at least pay attention to what was said.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
The other side of WTF was he thinking?
Posted: 11/16/2009 8:08:16 AM

What would be nice, is if older women (my age) would stop griping so much about just this issue: all the "older" guys are dating much younger women. Gee, I wonder why?

You made your bed, ladies . . . now you get to lie in it!

But it was still just one woman who was flakey. She was likely flakey when she was young, too, and the flakey young women out there are probably still going to be flakey when they're older. I don't get how a sensible person can morph this one experience (which was odd) into an age thing.

I do agree, however, there seems to be a reading comprehension problem with some of the posters on this thread. What the heck are they talking about?
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Open mic night...
Posted: 11/10/2009 1:53:12 PM

How much can it grow, really?

A lot. A stunning amount, in fact.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Empty promises
Posted: 11/9/2009 6:11:43 PM

This could apply to both sexes I suppose, but since I am a woman I guess I am wondering if other women dating men 40+ have had experiences with men who have behaved like this?

Most of the men I date are in their 40s, and I haven't noticed this. It's probably just a coincidence with the men you dated.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 26 (view)
 
women who say i'm really busy or i have a finite amount of time...
Posted: 11/7/2009 7:46:38 PM

So ladies just my personal view, if your soo busy and have to actually announce to the fishy's that you are that busy, for me its not worth the effort cuz you are busy.... lol ....... i gotta go i'm busy

Well, yeah. That's the idea. I only want to date someone who gets it (and I'm not even all that "busy" - I just have a job that doesn't have regular hours, every weekend off, all holidays off, etc.).


then why are you on here then? If you are so busy maybe you should date the thing your so busy with?

What? Date my job? I want to go on a nice date with a nice man now and then. There's nothing nefarious about it. It's OK that most men aren't interested. Really, it's OK.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 202 (view)
 
Love,Quality of life and who pays
Posted: 11/3/2009 2:55:58 PM

What's even more fun, is that there ARE a few men, albeit...most of them 10 yrs younger than me....who don't have a cow over the fact that I have a retirement income from working 30+ years rather than having extorted it from an ex husband through alimony.

LOL! go figure....why do these guys find it perfectly ok to accept a woman's income if it comes from her ex...but can't handle the thought that she worked for it herself?

We're close enough in age for us to be classified as the same generation. I'm honestly staggered that you either have met enough men who think like this (or believe you have) to assert that they're a majority and only a "few" don't. I've never met ANYONE who thinks like this. I've also never seen anyone post comments like that on these threads. Which makes me think you're misinterpreting in real life, as well as on the forums.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 78 (view)
 
What is sexy about FAT???
Posted: 11/1/2009 3:37:34 PM

A couple people here have referred to liking big women as a fetish. Is liking skinny women a fetish? Big breasts? Bis butts? Large nipples? Small nipples? Long hair? Short hair? Tall/short men/women? Thick thighs? Thing thighs? Do fetishes change as societal norms change? Did the Renaissance painters have a fetish? What makes liking big women a fetish as opposed to all those other things?

If you go by the (generally used) definition of fetish as being sexually stimulated by an object or non-sexual body part, simply liking big women wouldn't qualify any more than liking a woman with long (or short) hair, etc.

But the description the OP gave at the beginning of the thread, where men asked specifically about her "rolls" of fat and such, would probably qualify. They're turned on by the rolls (or feet, or some other ordinary body part), not the woman who happens to have the rolls, etc.

I believe this is a different kettle of fish than simply preferring a large woman because of personal aesthetics.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Disgusted yet Not Flattered
Posted: 10/29/2009 5:22:15 PM

I been getting good and bad emails.

Why not just be happy with the good ones and ignore the bad ones?
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 63 (view)
 
Clitoral vs. Vaginal orgasms
Posted: 10/29/2009 2:25:46 PM

For the one or two women reading this saying, " BS. I can cum a dozen times in 10 minutes JUST from clit play. " I salute you. You've probably fried your clit with a vibrator but if it can happen for you like that then good for you. You are as rare as croc feathers!!!

It must be a difference in definition. That's not remotely how I describe a multiple orgasm. It doesn't even sound particularly appealing to me. And what a vulgar and dismissive comment that "fried your clit with a vibrator" is, by the way. And I say that as someone who doesn't use a vibrator to masturbate (I don't like sex toys at all, except sometimes when I'm with a lover), and tend to agree they might cause sexual disfunction in SOME women. But that comment, to me, sounds like an attempt to demean.

SO when women say their clitoral orgasm (note the singular there) is better than a G-GASM (again note the singular) one wonders if they even know. If they DO and they still prefer A clitoral orgasm then fine. Enjoy. WALLOW in it. REFAWKINGJOICE!!! When they keep using the singular for orgasm I always wonder though .... A GOOD clitoral orgasm is a wunnerful thing but compared to a dozen or more O's of the same intensity ... but one right after another and again .... just sayin ....

Holy cow. "Wallow" in it? Charming.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Clitoral vs. Vaginal orgasms
Posted: 10/28/2009 3:32:05 PM

Gawd, there are a lot of people who have trouble comprehending what is being written here.

I'm thinking the same thing, since my comment of, "Please don't tell her that as if it's true for every woman," was in direct response to:

Yes, there is a difference
Yes, G Spot orgasms are better

My comment stands.

This discussion is like someone telling me chocolate cake is "better" than chocolate ice cream, and if I don't agree it must be because I've never had good chocolate cake. Please. Chocolate cake is delicious, but I like chocolate ice cream more. That's what I'll have, thank you very much. I'm not, however, about to proclaim chocolate ice cream "better."

I would have thought this poster comprehends what I'm saying from this statement...

ANY pleasure IS an individual thing. I'm NOT and never have claimed that this is the only way. I'm simply OFFERING a variation for those who haven't experienced it yet.

If it had not been preceded by this statement:

I might even take some perverse pleasure in knowing that your attitude has ensured you never reach that level of pleasure and intimacy with a lover

That suggests, again, a belief that one pleasure is indeed "better" than the other.

And, yes, I know my belief doesn't trump anyone else's. I doubt some of the contributors to this thread can say the same.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 50 (view)
 
Clitoral vs. Vaginal orgasms
Posted: 10/27/2009 7:01:43 PM

Yes, there is a difference
Yes, G Spot orgasms are better

Please don't tell her that as if it's true for every woman. I way, way, WAY prefer clitoral orgasms, which (for me) allow for multiples rather than one big, wet bang. I do concede that one great delight in having a G-spot orgasm is that it seems to give men a thrill, but the pleasure isn't "better" for me. And after I've had one, I can't take more stimulation for quite a while.

I also don't understand why people seem to think you can't have clitoral orgasms through intercourse. It's just a matter of positioning. Those are the best kind (again, for me) because I have that great feeling of fullness and thrusting along with the clitoral pleasure.

So, you see OP, it's a very individual thing.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 77 (view)
 
Robot lovers - yes or no?
Posted: 10/27/2009 2:57:45 PM

That's because you forgot to give him a peniis!

A machine can't have a penis. It can have a penis-shaped part, but that's not a penis.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 74 (view)
 
Robot lovers - yes or no?
Posted: 10/27/2009 2:37:56 PM

Passion is a GIVEN.

What? How could "passion" be a given? It's a machine.

It's not even tempting, in my opinion. I would not be aroused by a machine.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 107 (view)
 
When should the woman offer to pay?
Posted: 10/26/2009 5:32:13 PM

A woman should pay everything for her own

Yes, but both women and men should be gracious about accepting the other person treating for special occasions or if one person can't afford a particular event on a particular day.

otherwise guys expect something in return.

That's paranoid.

But if she does so, guys would leave her thinking she doesn't want anything to do with them.

Only if they both have retarded communication abilities.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Venus Mars War ...
Posted: 10/23/2009 6:28:46 PM

so far... there have only been 2 female posters (post 11 and post 6) and they don't make any sweeping statements about anyone ... ?


Valid point, but some times it is best to ignore. Not feed the trolls and negativity.

Wait a minute. With the exception of the resident wit who was obviously being sarcastic, nobody made sweeping, negative statements.

I'm also in the camp that doesn't see a gender war in real life. This is the only board I engage in, and it's the only place I witness gender-war salvos.

The crabby people I know in the real world are generally crabby to everyone, not just toward those of the opposite sex.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 108 (view)
 
Gold-digger is just a term men invented to
Posted: 10/23/2009 6:02:59 PM

Let's have a forum about Men only wanting women with a hot body...even if they are dumb as a brick.

There are scads of those threads, started by vicious women who think women with "hot bodies" by default are also "dumb as a brick."

Some of the key words and phrases you might search for are: shallow; BBW; curvy; Barbie; strong & independent woman; looks; physical; beauty is only skin deep; beauty is in the eye of the beholder; beauty fades; inner beauty; and why do men ...? There are others, of course, with less obvious titles but saying essentially the same thing.

The reading is mostly painful in its lack of logic and literacy, not to mention "inner beauty," but they're there if that's your cup of tea. Enjoy.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
same age dating
Posted: 10/22/2009 10:11:07 PM
My long-term relationship was with someone the same age (well, he was two and a half months older). Since then, I haven't dated anyone exactly my age. Most of the men I date are about five to 10 years younger. Just by chance, not a preference.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Kissing cheating?
Posted: 10/22/2009 8:57:56 PM

Is kissing cheating... My girl friend who recent took me back confessed to me she kissed another guy

What's the timeline? If she kissed someone when you two weren't together, it can't possibly be cheating.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 14 (view)
 
They're not here looking for sex... booohooo
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:16:10 PM
It's only hypocritical if they are as the OP described, proclaiming on the one hand that they're too righteous for such things while in fact partaking (which I don't actually see how you can know just because they haven't set up their filters, but that's another issue).

It's not at all hypocritical for someone to have chosen "long term" and not have those filters. There's no hypocrisy unless they're claiming one thing, and doing another. They might simply be someone who believes a person can be wishing/looking for a long-term relationship and at the same time be open to casual sex, if the long-term thing isn't happening.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 76 (view)
 
Any Virgins or those practicing Celibacy
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:04:37 PM
I've seen scores of women post on various threads that they, too, would prefer to remain celebate until marriage. Have you searched using key words and phrases? There might be someone who posted in one who is like-minded and near your location. As for me, I don't believe in marriage, and I do believe in sex, so the celebate until marriage concept is not a option.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Location, location
Posted: 10/20/2009 6:55:49 PM

Alberta or North.

Oh, I don't know that you'd have to go that far. Halifax is only a few hours away from you, and it's crawling with attractive men. Would your work schedule and such allow for fairly regular weekends here? Of course, that's only if you're OK with separations within a relationship.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 311 (view)
 
That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/20/2009 6:15:02 PM

However no one ( man or woman ) has the right to expect sex from another no matter what the cost of dinner is

I picked this quote simply as an amalgam of many similar thoughts I've seen on this thread, because I believe many people have morphed the OP's description of a man "anticipating" or "desiring" sex into his "expecting" and in some cases "demanding" sex. Those are entirely different things.

And, yes, I do think that for a woman to be angry or insulted that a man she's dating (for however long) is eager to have sex with her is disfunctional. Hoping for the pleasure of a sexual experience with someone is a fabulous thing, not an insult.

I also agree with a few posters who have pointed out that SOME of the most vocal proponents of "waiting to know a person really, really, really well" before having sex are the same ones who I've noticed on other threads discussing seriously pukey past relationships. Better them than me, I guess, both in the long wait for sex and the revolting relationships.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 17 (view)
 
leaving someone that has a kid thats not yours??
Posted: 10/19/2009 5:58:58 PM

Where I live, if a person has acted in the role of a parent for a significant portion of the child's life, then he is culpable for child support.

Talking only about financial support (emotional support is a different matter), why wouldn't the biological father be the one responsible? "Culpable" is an odd choice of word in this situation, by the way.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 49 (view)
 
Do guys worry too much about the physical?
Posted: 10/19/2009 7:08:03 AM

Should guys be concentrating on getting inside their woman's mind and enhancing her feelings, rather than learning a slew of physical techniques (which a woman can do on her own anyway)?

No thanks. I can manage my own thoughts & feelings, and the things I like sexually from a man are physical things I certainly can NOT do on my own.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 32 (view)
 
He can't afford to date you!
Posted: 10/18/2009 3:19:04 PM

she told me that she meets guys at the "Y"'s gym. I said first off, these guys can't afford to date you.

Wait a minute. What does using the Y gym have to do with someone not being able to afford to date someone? I go to the Y gym, and the membership there is about on par with any of the other health clubs. Only it's better, because they also have a really nice pool. Is it different in the States, maybe?
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 89 (view)
 
the odds of POF... STACKED for ladies, discouraging for men
Posted: 10/16/2009 7:53:06 PM
Post 87 (Erinlove)

Wow, that's really confusing to me. Except for the "short/boring" profiles/messages, which I figure are mostly the result of unread/deleted burnout, I know from experience that I can go to my inbox or search in my area and immediately find quite a few that aren't: written for men; unrealistic; unintelligent/badly typo'd/short; obviously taken ... looking for "friends" my ass; pasted; offensive; or WHAT?

I'm beginning to think it's not only (possibly) geographic but also age related. Younger people (both women and men) seem to complain of bad profiles/messages quite a bit. I wonder if some school boards stopped encouraging composition writing at a certain point, so only the kids who were exceptionally gifted or interested honed their skills.

In spite of all this, I don't even chose my own personal dates from those with fantabulous profiles or messages. I try to get a handle on whether they're good-natured, and go from there. Since I've been right (so far), meeting is never a negative, whether we progress to find one another attractive and compatible or not.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 60 (view)
 
Why wont they swallow?
Posted: 10/16/2009 6:31:23 PM
Volume-wise, there's a lot less to swallow when a man ejaculates compared to when a woman ejaculates. That's a lot of liquid, and it wouldn't be reasonable to expect a man (or woman, in a lesbian situation) to just open wide and swallow it all.

If it's lack of knowledge about what the ejaculate is made of, perhaps it would be an idea to suggest he catch some in his hand the next time it happens and taste it from there. Then he'd know it has similar taste (and less thickness) than natural female lubrication, which I'd assume he's tasted. Then swallowing a mouthful wouldn't seem as odd to him, I'd think.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Would this bother you and should I talk to him about it?
Posted: 10/16/2009 2:13:35 PM

How dumb is he to say that to his current girlfriend? Is he stupid?

He didn't say it to his current girlfriend. He said it to a woman during one of the first times they were hanging out together. They have since become boyfriend and girlfriend.

I guess it was a mistake for him to be open and honest that day (despite everyone saying how much they admire openness and honesty), because it's hurting the OP's feelings now. But he can't turn back time.

Also, if his emotions have become engaged with his (now) girlfriend, it's entirely possible his feelings for the other woman (which, really, could have been anything from true love to a comfortable crush - it's impossible to know), have waned.

I admire the OP's self-awareness in this matter: it bothers her and she's communicating about it with her boyfriend. That's a much better solution than silently stewing about it, much less buying into some of diagnoses being tossed about by some of this forum's armchair shrinks re: buddy's character and motivations.

The simplest explanation is often the correct one. He had feelings for a person, and now he has feelings for another person. This is not a scary, disgraceful thing. It happens to most people, at some point in their lives.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 40 (view)
 
Do I need to get over my morals?
Posted: 10/15/2009 5:31:28 PM
How was he suggesting you "get over your morals"? Did he tell you to start lying, cheating, stealing, killing, hurting people? No, I didn't think so.

He was urging you (though it's really none of his business) to change you relationship style. He thinks casual is that might grow into serious is best, and you've already discovered that doesn't work for you.

So, no you have no need to "get over your morals" or change what you want to do in regards to dating, sex and relationships.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 46 (view)
 
the odds of POF... STACKED for ladies, discouraging for men
Posted: 10/15/2009 3:39:18 PM
I find it odd that some women cannot accept that they are in control or have the upper hand on POF?

Me, too.

Whats the big deal? Of course you do, you call the shots.

I agree.

Enjoy it!

I do.

It's a bit different for me, because I don't desire a traditional, long-term relationship, but if I did, even as an older, relatively average woman, I'd have an incredible range of viable options. I'm mystified how so many similarly average women can't find a nice, attractive man. There are scads of them around here. Maybe it's geographic.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 6 (view)
 
I never go for looks, should i?
Posted: 10/8/2009 1:39:54 PM
What's wrong with looking for someone you think is good looking AND has a personality and interests that mesh with yours? There are lots of nice looking people who are also nice people.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 51 (view)
 
Yes, Men CAN be Sexually Assaulted by Women!
Posted: 10/6/2009 5:36:33 PM

I think anyone, male or female, who becomes so inebriated that they pass out and are taken advantage of sexually by someone should not be allowed to claim rape. It's immoral for someone to force sex on you in any condition, but there is no reason to get that hammered in the first place. It shows incredibly bad judgment and lack of self-restraint.

Beg pardon? Does the same logic apply to robbery? Murder? A drunk person is stabbed to death, let's say, but they had "bad judgement and lack of self-restraint" so let's not charge the stabber with the slaying. Please.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 397 (view)
 
Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 10/6/2009 5:23:19 PM

But there are a lot of cougars that chase the navy boys around every summer along with their search for the university boys in the bars.

This is off topic, but as soon as I read that I thought, wow, that town sounds like my town. And sure enough... Ha!
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Should mom tell on cheating future son-in-law and lose her job
Posted: 10/6/2009 4:27:32 PM

To me it appears that the only thing remarkably different here is that the pig is the man whereas it was the woman in the other thread.

I vaguely remember that other thread, but I don't know if the people answering here are the same people who said "Mind your own business" in the other one. If they are, they're hypocrites. If they're not, the point is irrelevant.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Am I realistic here?
Posted: 10/6/2009 2:58:59 PM
You're being realistic as long as you're willing to date the type of man who has the same need and desire to go slow toward intimacy. If you're only attracted to men who are only comfortable with a faster pace, and then expect THEM to change for you, you're not being realistic. Nor is anyone being a decent human being if they attempt to denigrade those who have different concepts about this. That goes for both sides of the divide, in my opinion.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Why do 60 somethings want 50 somethings...and 50's want 30s ??
Posted: 10/1/2009 5:20:51 PM

i do have mail... and some are around my age....

Then I'm confused. This statement is going against everything else you've said. Do you require MORE men around your age writing you?
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 41 (view)
 
Trying to work through my feelings on casual sex
Posted: 9/29/2009 2:23:29 PM

Still, I think that part of what is at issue here is an ethical question... perhaps something like: "Is it morally permissible to have sex with someone you don't care about as a person?". If one attempts to answer this question based on deontological ethics, then the answer is likely no, because we have a moral duty to others to treat them with care and respect. And this sort of ethical principle is not limited to sex. It applies universally to all interactions with others.

Yes, but I still think you're missing the point that some people are trying to make: that some of us can enjoy "casual sex" WHILE still caring about their partners as people, respecting them as people, and behaving with integrity.

To me, the comparision would be friendships. (Hopefully) we're fond of our friends, enjoy their company and aim to make our company pleasant for them, and there's also intimacy involved, to one degree or another. That's the casual sex equivilant. Best friends warrant a deeper level of intimacy, and (in my opinion) the readiness to sacrifice. That's the love equivilant. Having friends (casual sex) who aren't our best friend (someone we love) is not the mark of selfishness. It's just life. For some of us.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Asked my bf of 7 months what he wants for his birthday and he said nothing...
Posted: 9/25/2009 11:33:08 AM

favor*
typo sorry

"Favour" is correct. We live in Canada.

OT: Sports events tickets are a good idea (if he's into sports, of course).
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Older people only pls
Posted: 9/24/2009 9:49:32 PM
People are discussing something the OP wasn't asking about. He's not asking about whether people who DID enjoy sex when they were young change when they're older and now like it only with a deep emotional attachment. There are plenty of threads about that.

He's asking if there were any older people who now enjoy sex (with or without emotional attachment, I presume) who didn't enjoy it AT ALL when they were younger.

I don't think anyone yet has given him a personal answer, one way or another.

OP, it might be helpful to research asexuality. There are some threads about it on here, and articles elsewhere on the net. While it's not the norm, it's also not rare.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 60 (view)
 
New Social Trend
Posted: 9/24/2009 7:34:18 PM
I think I get what the OP is saying (in the thread; I didn't get a chance to see the profile), and I'm not quite sure why it's so offensive to some.


Nah, my take is he is saying being warm sweet and kind TRUMPS all of the other attributes.


That's right Margo. Trumps but not mutually exclusive. The one I am with now is quite accomplished, educated and intelligent. When we met she didn't say any of that. She said she was a one man woman, loyal, playful and very down to earth. I could see how pleasant and kind she was. Her core identity rests upon her being a pleasant woman not on being an academic professional. There is a huge difference.

I don't disagree with these sentiments, looking at it from the point of view of what I find attractive about men. What's wrong with valuing a good personality over those other things? Isn't that practically a mantra on these threads? Are people being dishonest (especially to themselves) when they say that? Over and over and over again, I might add.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Been 4 days and 3 responses?
Posted: 9/23/2009 6:52:37 PM
I don't understand. What's wrong with three responses? Why don't you ask one of them (or all three of them) out on a date?
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 111 (view)
 
The ick factor ...
Posted: 9/23/2009 12:40:57 PM
I think a lot of people on this thread have ignored what the OP said originally: there were no "physical surprises" at the meeting and her "ick factor" kicked in instantly, so it couldn't have been due to bad behaviour or incompatible personalities.

Almost everyone is telling stories about scenarios that don't match this: people who looked different than expected, smelled awful, acted badly, etc.

So, no I don't understand this idea under those circumstances. I do understand a sort of indiffence, but not an "ick" reaction. I really don't.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 314 (view)
 
BBW...Why is it so hard to be full figured??
Posted: 9/22/2009 3:03:21 PM

Most obesity researchers now agree that metabolic differences, not willpower, are the driving forces behind weight and appetite control. Studies suggest that an imbalance of brain chemicals and hormones, including cortisol, ghrelin, leptin and serotonin, can increase cravings and make certain foods difficult to resist.

1) I suspect the verdict is still out re: the chicken & the egg in this. Does the hormonal/brain chemical imbalance cause the obesity, or vice versa?

2) I'm not a big conspiracy theoryist, but do these "most obesity researchers" by chance get their funding from, oh, say, drug manufacturing empires?

Anyway, I'm in no position to preach about health issues. I'm a dirty, rotten smoker and don't care about my health. But I'm also not emotionally warped enough to argue that it's healthy.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 379 (view)
 
Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/21/2009 7:19:19 PM

he also may not realize what we offer when we are rejected simply by the number rather than the sum.

I'm sure I didn't make my point well. It's that IF a particular man isn't interested in women of (whatever) age - for whatever reason - "what we have to offer" is quite frankly nothing. Because he's not interested. (This applies to any scenario where people are complaining that they're being rejected for this reason or that reason.)

Further, I made my initial post way back when this thread started, and I also stand by that: just because someone rejects me, it doesn't mean he's necessarily only interested in "chasing 25-year-olds" and would reject ANOTHER 51-year-old woman, as the OP suggested. That reasoning is shoddy.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 27 (view)
 
pregnant and dumped by text
Posted: 9/21/2009 6:26:21 PM
I didn't see any comments from the OP about the baby's father dumping his BABY, just the girlfriend. Why is everyone so sure he's NOT willing to and going to fulfill his obligations as a parent even if they're not together as a couple?

And while it's fair enough that any kind of dumping via text is creepy, in this case I'm wondering about those classic other two sides to the story: his side, and the truth.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 376 (view)
 
Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/21/2009 4:38:23 PM

Multi-lingual, multi-cultural, well read, articulate, talented, attractive, knowledgeable about world affairs and politics, gourmet cook and fine wines, travelled, well respected in our careers, social outlets, loving

There are scads of 25-year-olds (of both genders) who also fit that description.

our only sins-----------------we aren't 25

It's not a "sin." It's individual men who don't find individual women (of any age) - even those who have all those listed attributes - ATTRACTIVE TO THEM.

If a man does not appreciate us.............he does not deserve us.

Well I should hope not. That would be mean. He doesn't want us. It's NOT his loss. Or ours.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 270 (view)
 
Are older men sometimes intimidated by older sexy women?
Posted: 9/18/2009 5:06:36 PM

In my opinion, the only comments with any validity here, are the ones from those who are 60+.

I'm a bit embarrassed. I only looked at your photo and thought you were also in your 50s, OP.

I see your point, I guess, but at the same time I'm quite sure some of the other posters were talking about men in their 50s experiencing this "intimidation" factor. I could be wrong, though, and maybe they're also talking about men in their 60s and 70s. Maybe some of them would be kind enough to clarify.
 dawn1114
Joined: 2/27/2006
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Are LTRs doomed to degenerate into lukewarm coexistence, if not worse ?
Posted: 9/17/2009 7:01:30 PM

I am more interested in people that started dating, say, at 23, and they're still together at 35-40, both physically and emotionally excited with each other.

I might be a good case study for you, then. I hooked up with my partner when we were both 20, and we were together for 25 years (when he died). We had a very strong physical attraction throughout. I've often wondered, however, if part of that was because we had regular, long separations (he was a sailor), which led to constant "honeymoon" phases. We also didn't have children or a traditional relationship in other ways, which could (I'm assuming) lead to other priorities pushing lust down the ladder out of necessity.
 
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