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Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 5:43:57 PM
Hey just nutty....... There you go again.......... "I'd like to see an emissions test on something like an old Model T. I'll giive you 10 to 1 It it's less polluting than most of the cars on the road today!" How much of that proposed bet can you back up? I will take any amount you are willing to put up, especially at 10-1 odds. First you have to understand just exactly what "polution" is created by an internal combustion motor. What you have coming out of the exhasut pipe is unburned hydrocarbons. These unburned hydrocarbons are light sensitive, and turn dark in sunlight. THAT is the reason for smog being the dark brown color it is, and the sky clearing up at night, even though just as many cars were on the road............... Modern motors are so clean that to clean them up even a little bit more would be prohibitively expensive. The benefit would not be worth the cost. The improvement would be so small as to be negligble. Do you know that one of the volkswagens that all of the hippies drove around in make more pollution than 20 modern vehicles?????? AND, these volkswagens are a lot cleaner than the old model A.......... The trouble now is that there is so little left to "clean up" as far as the effluvient from an average cars tailpipe, that there are a lot of very silly things that local govts. are doing that are actually counter-productive. For example. Here in Southern California there is this group called the Air Quality Management District that has just about free reigh on anything they want. They mandated that the gas has to be oxygenated in order to have the cars burn slightly hotter, and therefore slightly cleaner. Great in theory, and it actually worked for a while. BUT, then technology passed them up. Cars used to have what is referred to an "open loop" fuel injection system, where there were sensors that read almost all of the parameters as you drove. With oxygenated fuel, the systems slightly leaned out, and burned slightly cleaner......... THEN, the car companies improved on the Fuel injection systems with what is called a closed loop system, where the effluvient in the tail pipe was also monitored. The problem then is that when oxygenated fuel is used, the injection system adds more fuel, thereby worsening mileage, and INCREASING tail pipe effluvient, or pollution...... All cars have had these closed loop systems for over 20 years, but do you think the AQMD has removed the oxygenation requirement? HELL NO. I have even spoken person to person with one of their lawyers, and explained to him what was happening, he just said, thats nice, and walked away. Not only do they worsen mileage, they increase pollution........... AND the element that is used to oxygenate the fuel is finding its way into the ground water. BUT, the AQMD is a protected entity, so they do as they please. And that is just one example of the DUMB A$$E$ that are in our govt. Paul K

Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 4:51:49 PM
Hey Twinkster Do a little research and see just what it takes to mine the products necessary to make the batteries in the first place, and where they are made, and then where they have to be shipped to be put in use, and then what happens when they "die", and what has to be done then. AGAIN, please look at the big picture. All you are looking at is the finished product........ it is sort of like sausage making. You also seem to conveniently forget that the electricity has to come from somewhere. If the use of electric cars goes way up, where is that electricity coming from? Solar? not likely..... Wind? even less likely, as a matter of fact wind is very expensive to produce. The best asnwer to that question is nuclear, but there are too many ignoramus in the way of that. Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 4:37:56 PM
Hey Bottom........ you wrote: "Killing of ~100,000,000 sharks per yeah." This you wrote as what caused the ocean to be inbalanced......... I am calling BULL$HIT on your number......... please at least show some type of proof........ Being an avid deep sea fisherman, and being involved in keeping the local fisheries well stocked, I would be very surprised to see that your number is even remotely close to being true. Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 4:25:06 PM
The only cars that I ever knew of that didn't have corrosion resistant paint under the color were the '58 and '59 Chevrolets.......... Like I said, just take care of your vehicle and keep it for at least 6 years....... My Suburban is an '01............... Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 3:47:27 PM
^^^^^^^^^ I think that all of the GOOD research that has been done on alternative energy is just a good start. I don't think that you would find very many folks who never fell for the GW hoax that want to stop progress, at least not the ones that I know. For instance, today I can go to Chevrolet and buy a Corvette that not only passes smog regs, but has 630 HP, and will flat leave almost any car currently built in the dust............. The Tesla electric car is another subject, as not a lot of attention has been paid to the batteries themselves, what it takes to make them, what do you do with them after they "die", etc. AND, look into what it takes to make the batteries they use. If people really knew, they would probably boycott hybrids. To all of the people who drive a Prius, or any other hybrid, good for you, BUT, it makes no sense for me to sell my Suburban in that, it is PAID OFF, and if you really want to compare which would be the ecologically sound thing to do, you would have to consider what it takes TO BUILD a Prius, or any other such car, against the gas saved by driving one only. You have to look at the BIG picture, the complete picture. If you really want to do the ecologically sound thing, if you buy a new car every three years, buy a new car only every six years................... Not great for economies, but it would be the right thing to do. If the car companies want to do the right thing, they would make cars that last 500,000 miles. That way, they would build less cars, and that alone would be a ton better than scrapping a perfectly good car to get a small improvement in gas mileage. If AMC were going to build cars again, I want an AMX, dark blue with tan interior, stick shift, and an 8 track................ The H1 was a joke to begin with; no interior room, terrible ride.................. Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 3:11:37 PM
It s little late to have a conspiracy to commit fraud, in that the fraud has already been committed. But if they were to be charged, it would be for conspiracy, and for fraud. Which is harsher depends on where you live. Paul K. PS The latrines are standing tall................ nice work.

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 2:14:38 PM
^^^^^^^ The global warming hoax is something that could have been completely avoided if people had even a modicum of education in chemistry............ I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, I would call it FRAUD................. As far as al bore goes, he doesn't have anything to be hung by.............. Paul K PS As far as discussions on "global warming" goes, you are hereby promoted back to JustDukky............. Everything else........ we will take it on a case by case basis.

Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 1:18:21 PM
^^^^^^^ Boy it sure didn't take long for those who believed that man made global warming would drown us all....... Now you can't even admit that probabley the most common phrase use in "polite" society was "MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING"........ How many times have I heard the phrase "man made global warming" in the past 10 years. Funny how the SAME PEOPLE were trying to sell man made global cooling in the early '70's. And YES, I did look up and read some of the most damning emails where they were talking about how they were going to fudge the numbers. BUT, I guess since they were fudging the numbers to suit what you believed in, it was a good thing........ right? As far as a conspiracy theory, this is not a theory, it is FACT. They intentionally fudged numbers......... Where is the conspiracy? Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 12:24:46 PM
Hey just nutty, Does this mean that you believe that "global warming" is NOT man made? I believe that the Earth cools and heats up, but not caused by man...... Maybe you are not so nutty after all.......... Paul K

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Extra Terrestrial Life Posted: 11/24/2009 11:41:05 AM
^^^^^^^^^ Wow! So now we have Hollywood giving us scientific explanations as to why we have arms and legs............. Maybe we should ask Hollywood about a perpetual source of energy............ Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 11:36:16 AM
^^^^^^^^ Yeah, a few emails don't make much difference except when the emails expose that the "SCIENCE'' was FRAUDULENT, in that the emails that were exposed show that the NUMBERS that the "scientists" have been putting out were MADE UP, CHANGED to say what they wanted the numbers to say, to promulgate the hoax that is now known as "global warming". Whenever the global warming hoaxers have nothing to counter a FACT against their position, they always trot out "big business'', "big pharma", racism......... etc. etc. The emails show that the promulgators of "global warming" MADE UP AND CHANGED THE NUMBERS TO SUIT THEIR NEEDS................... I guess they did it to harm big business and big pharma, so it is all good......... If you don't think that other fraudulent ideas such as "cap and trade" would cost us BILLIONS, you have no idea of what you speak. Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/24/2009 11:07:07 AM
Hey krebby Did you have a good weekend? I really hate to correct you but you wrote: "there are elements in socialism in free market societies (public goods, taking care of externalities, etc.) and elements of capitalism in socialist societies (black market activities)." I am assuming that when you say "public goods" you are referring to streets, sewers, etc....... No, that is not even close to socialism, in that you get a SERVICE for a FEE. Socialism is when money is extorted from you by a central agency for a central agency to "fix things"....... Please show me in the code, or laws of any socialist society where it sets up a "black market activity". Black market activities are strictly verbotten, as they undermine a socialist societies capacity to control financial activities. Black market activities are the essence of capitalism, and therefore the bane of socialism. Did you ever find the Gray Poupon for your hot dogs? Paul K

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Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general) Posted: 11/24/2009 10:58:47 AM
To realize that "global warming" was a hoax was easy. All you had to do is look at the overall effect of the Kyoto accord, what is gong to happen in Belgium later this year, and to watch al bores movie. There is a sequence in the movie where he shows a graph that purports to show that every time CO2 levels went up, temperatures went up. What the didn't show you was that you took that graph and zoomed in on it, you would see that it was the TEMPERATURE that went up FIRST, then the CO2 levels went up.............. I have been saying this for years. Now the revelation of rigged temperatures from the Hadley CRU in England proves what I have been saying all along. Never mind that the tree ring temperature readings were also a hoax......... My question now is, WHAT NOW? There are BILLIONS of dollars invested in fraudulent "science"............................ When the soviet union and the Berlin Wall fell, all of those who were suddenly out of a job went scrambling like rats off of a sinking ship. Just one example of that........ Where did gorbachev end up?? In the Green Movement........ He was even given an office in the Presidio in the San Francisco area..................... That is about as backwords as it can get. At least hopefully, this hoax will get exposed fully for what it is. Paul K

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Smoking, who to blame! Posted: 11/23/2009 1:47:32 PM
Hey scorpio you wrote: "I'm OK with socialism. It's just when one group gets to get all the goodies, and another doesn't, just because society likes one group more than the other, that's not socialism. It could be capitalism." Saying that the state taking money in a coersive manner from one person to give to another could be capitalism is about the biggest stretch I have read in a while. I think that if you replaced the word "capitalism" with "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS"........ THEN you would have something. Political correctness is the bane that covers all political philosophies, left, right, center, other, and is what is bringing all to their knees. Paul K

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Smoking, who to blame! Posted: 11/23/2009 1:13:07 PM
hey scorpio you wrote: "In the UK, they do. But I'm not obese. I don't see why I should be expected to pay for ALL my health treatments, AND pay to the public pot, when obese people don't have to. Fair is fair." As we say in So Cal....... Bummer, dude, but on the other hand, ain't socialism great!!!!!!!! Paul K

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Growing meat! Posted: 11/23/2009 11:44:59 AM
On one hand, we are falling all over each other to do all we can to "make" human parts from stem cells, yet there are those who will read this and just go NUTS about the fact that we are making a substance to eat............. I will put my order in for a few things NOW, as I want to try it: I want a USDA Prime rib, about 12 lbs, that I can smoke in my smoker, I want about 10 New York steaks. I will make up the rest of my list later.......... Paul K

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Smoking, who to blame! Posted: 11/23/2009 11:26:36 AM
The person responsible for smoking is the person that buys the cigarettes, opens the pack, puts one inbetween their lips, lights it and takes a drag. Period. End of story. I think that it is about time that people take responsibility for their own actions. Paul K

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A math question: Is there any way to increase your odds when buying lottery tickets? Posted: 11/21/2009 4:24:22 PM
Hye thorb I really don't think that I am the one confused here........... Of the two of us, I am the one who doesn't place any credence in "psychic ability"...................... By the way, you never told me who actually won a lottery as result of "psychic ablility". So, who has won a lottery via their "psychic ability"? Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/21/2009 3:44:11 PM
Hey ed you wrote: "we cannot forget the Reagan legacy on AIDS, since he believed that it was god's punishment to gays, he chose to ignore informing the public about AIDS and funding research, so thousands were allowed to contract the disease and die the Reagan administration did nothing to combat AIDS- this is not what Jesus would have done-" So it is Ronald Reagans fault for those who contracted AIDS during his term? I guess you think that they had no responsiblility in their own actions then............... right? And there was no public outcry about AIDS during that period? That is true only if you lived on the moon or mars. By the way, you presuming to know what Jesus would do falls rather flat, correct me if I am wrong in that you don't believe he existed anyway. Paul K

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Greed... is good? I definitely think so. Posted: 11/21/2009 1:28:22 PM
^^^^^^^^^^ Are you sure you are not my former mother in law? All you do is kvetch, kvetch kvetch............................ What are YOU doing to fix all of the perceived problems that are going to put us all in an early grave? That is, what are you doing BESIDES pissing and moaning about how bad we all have it................... Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/21/2009 11:44:27 AM
Like I said, he would be an independant................ Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/20/2009 5:10:49 PM
Hey just nutty Again, why go into arenas where you don't know much about? I wouldn't have him on the republican ticket.............. He would be running as an independant. As far as a cabinet........ who needs one, after all he is God. I think that the only person he would have in an advisory capacity would be Art Laffer. As far as ressurecting the US economy, he would say, you don't need Me, just ask Art............... As far as ressurections go, there is no reason to resurrect marx, unless it would be to put him on trial for crimes against humanity. The only person he should resurrect would be Ronaldus Magnus.......... Ronald Reagan. But in what capacity? The Berlin Wall is down....... (Thanks Ronnie!), the evil empire is now just Russia..... (Again, thanks Ronnie!). I know that the fall of those two entities must have you, just nutty, going apoplectic. Sorry about that, but it was inevitable. Paul K

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Has God always existed? Posted: 11/20/2009 3:03:09 PM
Hey nothing Actually, yes, a lot else matters. I was asking to see if your perspective was one of a BELIEF in God, or if you thought that you had absolute proof of Gods existance. Paul K

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A math question: Is there any way to increase your odds when buying lottery tickets? Posted: 11/20/2009 10:52:41 AM
^^^^^^ Has anybody ever used "psychic ability" to somehow devine the numbers and used that to win a lottery? Are you saying that is possible? If so, give us an example, please. What would be wrong if said "psychic ability" were used to win money, and then use that money for charity? Paul K

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Is the pollution debate centering around carbon dioxide as a bait and switch? Posted: 11/20/2009 9:47:57 AM
I took the time to watch al bores movie.......... During that "movie", he pointed to a chart that showed temperatures and CO2 rise at the same time........... I actually looked up the dates, and when laying out the graph in 10 year increments, you will see that it was TEMPERATURE THAT WENT UP FIRST, EVERY TIME, then the CO2 went up............. He had that opposite of what it should be. THAT little detail is what ALL of the global warming bull$hit is B ASED ON. So, yes, I do agree the premise of thread. Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/20/2009 9:42:44 AM
Hey cutter you wrote: " So we're more complex than chickens, so what?" Not surprised at all to see that you view human life with so little regard. Paul K

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How can you prove soul exists after death? Posted: 11/19/2009 12:15:08 PM
Hey thorb you wrote: "Nobody has ever debunked all of Edgar Cayce's life work or ever will." OKAY.......... That explains, and puts in perspective just about everything that you say................... As far as edgar cayce goes, even a blind squirell finds an acorn every once in a while..................... Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/19/2009 10:40:31 AM
Hey Cutter........ you wrote: "Why are so many religious kooks semi-literate? Oh right, because if they didn't have a below average IQ and education they wouldn't be religious kooks to begin with!" So if you are religious, you are retarded and have no education? By the way, the HUMAN heart starts to beat 28 to 29 days after conception. But, then you not being religious, you already knew that. Paul K

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Greed... is good? I definitely think so. Posted: 11/18/2009 10:49:02 PM
Hey UB Here is a link to an article that will set you on fire......... go to: www.hillsdale.edu , click on "Imprimis" click on "Imprimis Archive" Type in New Zealand in search issue content, click on search click on "Rolling back government: Lessons from New Zealand by Maurice P. McTigue. This is a speach given by one of the people who was at the center of when NZ rolled back the size of their government, and the results they got. You will LOVE IT. Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/18/2009 10:38:17 PM
Hey just nutty I'm sorry. I guess I should apologize to attorneys as I didn't mean to offend them by putting you in their circle.......... I suppose then you found the definition of "evidence" in Blacks Law? Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/18/2009 9:26:59 PM
Hey Just Nutty Great to hear from you! notice I did say that the utterance by JC was according to those who BELEIVE in the Bible. Just curious......... do you practice law? Thanks for the thumbs up on the looks..... but I am STRICTLY hetero......... Paul K PS Sorry........

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/18/2009 9:10:38 PM
^^^^^^^^ You're welcome!!! Paul K PS, in the BIBLE, according to those that believe in it, Jesus DID say as I wrote........

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/18/2009 9:08:20 PM
Hey JustNutty you wrote: "Paul: Can I have the car pretty please? State of CA: Well I don't know, did you buy it and give us the title? Paul: Yup! State of CA: In that case, if you ask us nice we'll sell you a certificate that says it's OK to use the car IF you look after it. Paul: Oh Goody! How much do you want? State of CA: You have to beg (apply) for it...Here fill this in and sign (take oath) it (application for registration(register=turn over for safekeeping) - Paul eagerly fills it in) State of CA: Since you have just begged us for permission, but have demonstrated complete incompetence by begging us to take your hard-earned property off your hands, and then begged and paid again to have it back, we don't think you are competent to manage your own affairs. You'll have to beg and pay for a thing called a drivers licence to see if you have enough common sense to be trusted with our car. Paul: I got that years ago. State of CA: Well, OK, here's the car keys. Now remember, don't speed and be home by midnight! Paul: OK Dad! And thanks for permission to travel in your car. State of CA: Don't mention it. That's what we're here for." Since I was actually there when I purchased my first new car, way back in 1977, possibly it was different then the scenario that you so creatively laid out, either that or the meds just kicked in before you wrote the above. I went more like this: Pontiac Dealer: Paul, you have the money? Paul: YES, I have saved and scrimped, and here is the check in the amount of $7248.52......... Pontiac Dealer: Here are the keys, drive slowly, the car is a beast...... Paul: Slow.... OF, COURSE. (Paul jumps in car, fires that bad boy up, and disappears in a cloud of blue tire smoke) Paul then proceeded to go to the local hot spot and hook up with two total babes, takes them back to his near-beach side pad, and they discuss religion most of the night. At least I am sure the word OH GOD was invoked many times by all involved. My version is almost exactly as it happened......... well, maybe there was only one totally hot babe involved.................. It really must hurt your head to think as you do, is all I can say. BUT, you are mildly entertaining............... Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/18/2009 4:37:08 PM
Hey dukky Seeing how I believe in truth in advertising, you should change your forum name to JustNutty............ you wrote: "Doesn't it seem at all suspicious to you that countries don't print their own money'' What was it that I saw they were doing at the mint, when they took rolls of paper and printed mostly green on it and then cut it into smaller pieces? They called it printing money, I will have to tell them they are wrong............... you wrote: "highways: If you have a right to them, why must you "register" your vehicle and "apply" to obtain a drivers licence to travel on them in your car?" Lets see now......... registration..... evidences ownership, helps if the car is stolen. Drivers license......... The right to drive is a privelege that you have to do certain things to obtain, like proving that you CAN drive, that you CAN see, that you KNOW the rules of the road............... I I had this conversation with my daughter when she was about 8 years old. The funny thing is, she understood, and I don't think that you will be able to comprehend it. Paul K

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Greed... is good? I definitely think so. Posted: 11/18/2009 1:55:40 PM
Hey 60 The well that you refer to as being empty is comprised of the ingenuity of the AMERICANS who get off their duffs and come up with new products and ideas. I for one don't have such a hard on for getting things made here. If I invent a widget that I can sell for $19.95 on late night TV, and it costs me $8.00 to make in the US, but only $1.50 in Taiwan... Well, that is a simple decision to make. If you want to get out of the morass we are currently in, all you have to do is to unleash the American entreprenuerial energy, and that is best done by giving the small businesses a reason to make new products, and the best way to do that is to lower the taxes they pay. They will take that new found capital and expand, AND HIRE PEOPLE........... The ones that don't, won't be around long, and good riddance. That is how it happened EVERY TIME tax cuts have been tried. Understand that when one says "small business" in this context, it means those that hire up to 500 employees. Just to keep things in perspective. Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/18/2009 1:06:24 PM
Hey nice guy you wrote: "And while the biblical jesus does say thinks like love your enimies, he never displayed said love in his own actions." Correct me if I am wrong, but Jesus said: Father forgive them for they know not what they do........ This is while on hanging on the cross, which he was nailed to by his enemies........ Please do your research before making patently incorrect statements attributing certain actions to people you know nothing about. Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/18/2009 12:03:38 PM
Hey nice guy Before you go calling anybody a hypocrite, you really need to get the facts as they are put out there a little better......................................... Putting things in context would help too. Paul K

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A math question: Is there any way to increase your odds when buying lottery tickets? Posted: 11/18/2009 12:00:59 PM
Hey desert When it comes to the strip club, you speak like a man with experience on the subject......... Paul K

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Extra Terrestrial Life Posted: 11/17/2009 4:20:45 PM
^^^^^^^^^ Hey enrique Were the laws of physics suspended 5 million years ago? I was under the impression that the reason for the severe cold in Antartica was the same 5 million years ago as it is today................... WAIT, I HAVE IT!! The earth was oriented so that the equator was where the north /south pole is now, and Antartica was where the equator is now........... What do you think? Maybe that is what is meant by pole shift...... And then it moved to how it is now. I think that for sure either aliens or the illuminati or the masons were involved, I will get back to you on that one........... Paul K

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Jesus was a Socialist Posted: 11/17/2009 4:10:24 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ oohhhhh....... You are a brave soul, bringing up abortion and homosexuality. If you really believe that Jesus was Son of God, then he would be against abortion, but I highly doubt that he would be against homosexuals, in that if you took all of humanity, and put it on a bell curve, you would have those that are just born "different" at either end of the curve, and the vast majority in the middle. Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/17/2009 1:50:20 PM
Hey dukky There is a company out there called Factory Five. They sell kits so you can assemble your own Cobra. That is a car that was built in the '60's by Carrol Shelby, with motors from Ford......... They also sell complete cars. What you are telling me then is that if I were to buy a complete car from them, they really wouldn't be selling me the real ownership of the vehicle, just the right to possess and use it, right? So lets see if I got this correct: I "buy'' a car from them, I can do AS I WISH with this vehicle, drive it, race it, destroy it, use it for target practice, ANYTHING......... correct? I can even sell it, ANY TIME I WANT, correct? AND I can keep all of the money I sell it for? But also according to you, I really don't own the vehicle................... you wrote: "...or did you just assume it must be some kinda "conspiracy theory" Well, YOU did write it, so it is a very safe assumption to make..................... As far as who got their money from inheritnce, quit being such a jealous, whiney BEATCH. Grow up a little. If you spent as much time trying to get ahead, perhaps you could leave a little to your heirs and assigns......... Maybe you could even leave a lot. Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/17/2009 1:16:56 PM
Hey cuddly I have a few very well trained private property protectors. They don't eat, don't crap, don't bark, except when I want them to bark, then they bark here, and bite there............. Its amazing how few "hot burglaries" are comitted in neighborhoods that the homeowners are reputed to have the capabillity to protect themselves. Paul K

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Jenson at McLaren .. Posted: 11/17/2009 1:10:55 PM
I don't think that Button will present a problem for Lewis, as in similar cars, I do believe that Lewis will wax him. In similar cars, Barrichello beat Button on many occasions. However, now that Mercedes has bought Brawn, it is hard to believe that they couldn't meet the salary that Button has earned due to his World Champion status. I still believe that the future major domo as far as drivers goes is Kabayashi. The kid has the type of controlled aggression that you only see very rarely. With Mercedes money, they could afford both Button and Kobayashi. With Buttons experience to help sort the car, and Kobayashi learning from that, well, that would be a very interesting team. I can still see the move he put on Raikonnen........... Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/17/2009 12:18:50 PM
Hey dukky First of all I have asked very nicely what MSO stands for, seeing how we live in different countries, I have no idea what it means in your countgry, and we don't have anything that corresponds to those initials. If someone else has title to a vehicle that I own, and thereby ownership in their name, then I would need THEIR permission to sell the vehicle, right? If I DON'T need their permission, then I own said vehicle. I have looked very carefully at all of the pink slips for all of the vehicles I own, and strangely enough, only my name appears........... Maybe the DMV, that would be Department of Motor Vehicles. forgot to put whoever it is that you seem to think owns my vehicles on the title.............. I am telling you, the foil hat is way too tight, and is restricting blood flow to your cranial cavity.................... Here is another thing for you to consider. Blacks law dictionary is NOT the law of the land. What it does is explain and define words, pharases, and gives meaning to words that are relevant to the law. If you are pointing to Blacks law dictionary as to show me how a law is in the US, you sir, have got it wrong again. Unless, the congress, the senate and the US president conspired to have it adopted and melded into the US Consititution and 75 states ratified it while the US populace wasn't looking............... You never know, it could have happened, after all, look at all of the rest of the conspiracy theories that are true................................ Couldn't resist............. Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/17/2009 11:09:17 AM
Hey dukky At least you are mildly entertaining............ My MSO? One little clue........ I live in the USA....... Here in California, when we purchase a car outright, with no loan, we are given a ''REGISTRATION", that is used to show who has custody of the car, among other things, and a "CERTIFICATE OF OWNERSHIP". That last one is called the "Pink Slip", and it evidences OWNERSHIP.......... See, here in the lower 48, or America, we actually can OWN things in our name. I am always amused by those who don't live here, basically believe in everything that can get past their too tight fitting foil hat as long as it is in a conspiracy, and ALWAYS know how things here REALLY are, and are very happy to tell us how it is. For that I thank you. Paul K.

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/16/2009 4:45:39 PM
Hey dukky You almost had me there............ I went to the site that you referenced, and read down to the part where they were running an advertisement for a movie about how the US Marines are practicing arresting citizens, and building concentration camps....... I read a little more, and have only one thing to say. Your tin hat must be a little too tight and is constricting flow of blood to your brain. I feel very bad for folks who have a need to find a boogey man in every bush and around every corner. Life has to be very difficult for them, as they are always "on the look out'' for the next conspiracy...................... My advice: Put down the bong, don't drink the bong water this time, and remove that foil hat that is a bit too snug................. By the way, can you send me a copy of the form that you need in order to sell your car, you know, the one that the state has to give you permission with, since you don't own your car anyway. I would like to see it, as I might want to sell a car soon................ Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/16/2009 2:11:45 PM
It didn't take long....... did it? You wrote: ''Oh, BTW, when you register your car, its title is held by the state, so strictly speaking you are only left with equitable title and possession as a benefit for turning over your car to the state for "safekeeping". So, technically speaking, it becomes the state's property and the state is the one who says what can be done with the car, not you.'' I am certain that you are referring to what happens in the great country of Canada...... Here, in the USA, if there is a lien on the car, such as a loan, the title is held by the lienholder, if there is no lien on the car, then the title is vested in the owner.......... In California, the title is called a PINK SLIP, and it evidences that I am the owner, and I say what can be done with the car........................ Does that mean that in Canada you have to get written permission to sell the car? HUH? Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/16/2009 1:24:51 PM
I wasn't going to bring up the following fact, but if you agree with the OP, that would be me, you are disagreing with the ACLU....... There really is a very strong chance that this will be overturned, as the 9th Circuit court is the most overturned appellate court in the land, with 19 cases overturned or vacated out of 22, during the last Supreme court session. Is it the apocalypse? No, more like the dawning of the age of aqaurius................ Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/16/2009 12:25:14 PM
Wow....... there is hope................... Paul K

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Free speach......... just how far does the right to free speach reach...... Posted: 11/16/2009 11:59:19 AM
In So Cal, there is a beautiful little city called San Clemente. Beautifual ocean views, temperate clime, one of the best surf breaks anywhere, that would be Trestles, and generally a laid back attitude. BUT, there is a problem afoot in San Clemente. It seems that the people of that city were tired of having leaflets placed on the windshields of their vehicles, and the city passed an ordinance banning the activity, and imposing a $100.00 fine. Lawsuits were filed, and the case worked its way to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, where they decided that the right of free speach extended to leaving leaflets on windshields of cars. The Ninth circuit decided that it was a matter of free speach that would allow the leaving of leaflets on windshields of cars. I have a problem with that particular ruling, in that the leaflets are placed on PRIVATE PROPERTY, that would be your car. There is a long standing right to free speach on public property, but the speaker has no right that people be forced to listen. Placing the leaflet on the car forces the driver of the car to remove the leaflet, and unfortunatley, most of them get thrown on the ground. Just like no one can come to your house, and force you to listen to them, they don't have a right to force you to deal with their flyer. Paul K

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