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green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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Can women smell another woman on you???? Posted: 3/24/2010 4:18:30 PM
I've found this with men; it's a confidence thing, I think. When I'm with a man I feel sexier and more confident, thus I LOOK sexier and more confident, and hey there, men notice :) Yea, sure. Men prefer confidence to ethics, love, understanding&support . That's why they always end up hurt or cheated calling all women bi*ches.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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Is it true that a man's interest can be rekindled after it has been lost? Posted: 3/20/2010 2:17:08 AM
If his interest had been true, it wouldn't have been lost because of your insecurities. He would have helped you go through it and work on your insecurity issues. If your main objective is to be truly happy, then stop fooling yourself. See things for what they are, and do not rationalize ( nor project).

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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I hate my girlfriends best friend Posted: 3/12/2010 1:06:34 AM
What's the point in having a partner if your partner is NOT your best friend? It has nothing to do with how long that guy had been in her life vs. you? It's about her setting priorities. Your partner must come first if you want a quality relationship, and your friends will come first if you are 14 yr old. ( unless he is kind of a sex buddy to her) And the last and worst option: your g/f is an immature douche bag creating this kind of "triangle" just to make you ( or also him) jealous. Another option: given he had known her for a long time, he might know some "dirty secret" from her past that she doesn't want you to know; hence her restriction that you don't speak to him. Sounds possible?

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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Falling over the phone… Posted: 3/3/2010 6:27:58 AM
OP, some people are into dating just to "collect" experiences. You might have been one of those "experiences" to them.. Live and learn. Yes, it's like picking objects to them; they don't feel it like it's human beings they are dealing with.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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Permanently Damaged Posted: 3/3/2010 5:26:32 AM
A human being is not a possesion, real estate, country or territory you can possess or control. He/she has free will and will only stay in a relationship by choice no matter how hard the other tries to defend their territory. Theory of Chaos? I prefer Order. A world in which it is, at least to some extent, clear what belongs where. By your theory, a concept of "my" boyfriend or "my" husband doesn't exist. For example, a woman gives birth to a child and someone asks her "whose child is it?", and she says : this child isn't mine, we can't possess human beings. Plus, when I said "territory" I meant relationship, not the person/partner. Relationship as a unit. Do you have possession over yourself? Or you let the winds of life throw you around? I even see many discussing here have no idea what jealousy is vs. envy ( two entierly different things). Let me clarify them for you: jealousy: related to love relationships, feelings toward the third foreign party that may jeopardize the territory ( justified or irrational jeopardizing) envy: related to possessions, successes or traits of other people that we would like to have but we don't ( not a person romantically related to you); feelings are not romantically- related So, please stick to jealousy on a jealousy thread. As for insecurities, I will give you my view on insecure woman: Insecure woman is a woman who is afraid to voice her needs and requirements in a relationship, openly and directly ( with firm and serious tone of voice). So if a woman challenges an evidently humiliating scene ( for example her man flirting with other woman) her immediate reaction to it will tell how secure she is ( not her prolonged reaction whether she will ultimately leave him and break off the relationship. Every fool can react later on and think it over million times). What's your immediate reaction? Clue: pretending you are a Buddhist monk, while you are not, will not make you look any more "secure"; perhaps just lame and insecure, and lifeless.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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Permanently Damaged Posted: 3/2/2010 3:49:47 AM
Semantics, semantics... People who want to keep that kind of control know what they want, will go for it and will maintain the integrity of their relationship for very long time. Some stay in stable marriages for a longtime. Providing of course, this is not achieved through abuse, but through mere assertiveness so many people on here like to call "jealousy". How do you like this interpretation? Not having some form of possessiveness or defense for your "territory" in the relationship would be like expecting to have a country without army and feeling safe and stable in it. I know most people expect someone or something else to defend them and fix the territorial integrity of their relationship, but they must do it on their own.

green.apple

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Permanently Damaged Posted: 3/2/2010 3:38:34 AM
Does it mean that a person who never has any grounded healthy jealous reaction is, by default, full of self-confidence? For example, you see your man systematically flirting with other women ( not your fantasy, but say it's pretty obvious) and you never react to it, does it mean you are a self-confidence super hero? Or it just means you are a fool?

green.apple

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Just broke up because the sex was bad Posted: 3/1/2010 4:46:40 AM
Maybe a better question would be: Did you not love him because the sex was bad or the sex was bad because you didn't love him? IMO, bad sex in a relationship can be worked on if there's love, but if there isn't love even the good sex won't fix it ( or maybe it could? ) These things are tightly related, I wish I knew which is older - the hen or the egg.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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What does it mean when.. Posted: 3/1/2010 4:26:51 AM
Ha ha OP, both a) and b) revolve around sex. How could you miss it so much in both cases? Or are you just playing up with us? It just means she doesn't wanna be treated like a semen bag, but like a human being.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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'i met the love of my life on a sex site' Posted: 2/27/2010 4:24:56 PM
So, what have we concluded? That women on sex sites use sex to find romantic love, and men on non-sex sites like this one use romantic love to find sex?

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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jealousy what does it mean Posted: 2/27/2010 5:23:13 AM
Don't confuse assertiveness for jealousy. Some people want respect and demand it very openly. I'm not sure what's wrong with that? Maybe it would be right to let someone make a fool out of you because you don't want them to pronounce you jealous? And thus you will be perceived as secure and confident. Hilarious.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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R*pe is ruining my sex life Posted: 2/27/2010 5:02:36 AM
OP, most of the people agreed you should seek counseling.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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R*pe is ruining my sex life Posted: 2/26/2010 2:12:40 PM
Isn't rape considered a serious trauma requiring a professional view? Once at 16, the other time at 17, and now you are 19. Please do not go out on a date with someone off the POF who you "know" and "trust" , now at 19. Please don't. And especially not in a short skirt.

green.apple

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going with woman B Posted: 2/25/2010 12:00:02 PM
What does not being bored in bed involve? Being f*cked in head stand?

green.apple

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Top reasons a man leaves a woman? Posted: 2/25/2010 3:04:01 AM
Omg, there's so many obese men on this topic claiming their top reason is woman's weight gain.

green.apple

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Expain the phrase My children are my top priority? Posted: 2/20/2010 11:35:03 AM
I've always been devoted to my sons. I've always been devoted to my dog. When in relationships I've always been devoted to my partner. When a person is loving, there's no problem sharing that love because they understand how to give. In my experience, good communication and a willingness to appreciate the feelings/needs of loved ones is the key. I take pleasure in knowing that I am supporting what makes my partner happy, and I expect the same in return. To me, people who have to state that their children, job, cats etc. come first are demonstrating a limited ability to love. A definite turn-off! Nicely put! They can also be ego maniacs who see their kids as the extension of their worthy selves that is in the center of the Universe and everything revolves around them. It's common and normal for parents to think their kids are the center of the Universe to all other people, just because they are to them. It's called projection.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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Lack physical attention from girlfriend Posted: 2/14/2010 3:40:21 PM
Omg guys, you are complicated creatures. When she is giving little physical attention, she is not interested. When she is giving a lot of it, she is clingy. Or may the truth is that some people don't like much physical attention, just like some people don't like to eat much, while others do.

green.apple

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Online relationships and the Unsuspecting and Innocent True Wife Posted: 2/12/2010 5:00:10 PM
Actually, the OP has given two completely different statements about where they met: 1st statement/original posting: We met on a Vanilla dating web site. He took his time and explained some of the intricacies of the Dom/sub relationship. It seemed exciting, scary, sensual, intimate all of the things that had been missing from my life. The last ( changed statement): It was not a kinky website that I met him on, it was here on PoF. Since my posting this, he has changed his profile 3 times, including the handle he goes by. His profile at the moment says divorced and is back to dating. But the 'about me' section always remains the same.

green.apple

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Online relationships and the Unsuspecting and Innocent True Wife Posted: 2/12/2010 1:04:59 AM
green.apple - I'm sorry that you apparently were scammed at some point by someone who called himself a Dom, but your bitter anti-SM rants are displaying your ignorance. If you don't want to participate in such endeavors, then don't. The OP's problem has nothing to do with whether or not this was a Dom/sub relationship, and everything to do with being misled. Yes, I know. You SM people typically call everyone who does not engage in such activities "ignorant". Nothing new. Being mislead? And techniques and methods by which that was achieved, or by which it's easiest to mislead someone, are not relevant? Keep dreaming. I'll agree with that. But what about the wife? Does she deserve any consideration? Do the kids deserve any consideration? You do realize that they will get hurt as much, if not more, than the man if they find out, right? Sometimes ignorance IS bliss and without knowing the woman or the circumstances of their relationship, I know I wouldn't want to be the one to deliver news that rips a family apart. Yes, absolutely, I agree. That single person that had been lied, cheated, degraded and humiliated is not important, she must think about the family that suffered consequences of the affair. And I agree with you: the sole purpose of single people is to serve the married people and their well-being. The fact she was equally "damaged" while she did nothing wrong does not matter, because she is single without kids. Her status in the Universe is thus much much smaller. Given that she had no idea his wife and kids existed, she is NOT responsible for HIS wife and HIS kids. It was his job to protect them.

green.apple

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Online relationships and the Unsuspecting and Innocent True Wife Posted: 2/11/2010 4:37:17 PM
It's not secondary, as it should have been a huge red flag right from the start. Such practices, if it's about "exploring one's sexuality and broadening sexual horizons" can perhaps be introduced when you are well settled in a relationship and know a person very well ( NOT knowing them just through phone calls).. my idea was that they often use this lying "strategy" , related to kink or SM to create some form of "fake trust".. So, of course it's related. Much more related than the driver's license copy she is talking about. Talking about SM with practically a stranger, and encouraging her to try it out, should have told her much more about him than any personal doc. copy could ever do.

green.apple

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Online relationships and the Unsuspecting and Innocent True Wife Posted: 2/11/2010 3:59:13 PM
I repeat.. doesn't matter what a person's sexual proclivities may be.. all, if inclined to do so can lie. His/Op's sexual acts are irrelavent to what happened it could have been strictly missionary and the end result would/could have been exactly the same. Not at all. He was preparing her for the Dom/Sub role psychologically. That's why ( in this specific case) she didn't question anything he did or said ( until it was too late of course). The problem is she was inexperienced and she fell for the typical Dom story how it's something divine and how such SM experience will enlighten her as a person. While all he ever wanted was a frustration release and to exhibit some sort of power over another person. People who look for "just sex" do not have that element of wanting to degrade or exhibit power over another person. They might just want sex instinctively and then "use" another person for sex. First of all, SM lovers are not into sex as much as they are into SM roles and games ( either psychological or physical). They want control because they don't have it anywhere else in their life; they feel thrilled they can get in a SM setting ( never mind it's a fake setting)

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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Online relationships and the Unsuspecting and Innocent True Wife Posted: 2/11/2010 3:18:37 PM
""Dom" is just a nice word for a disturbed psychopath. I suspect that the puritans of yore said the same thing about masturbation.. " Totally ungrounded comparison. Masturbation is just yourself in the picture, while demonstrating power over another person can be millions things, not just a kid game. You don't need any special qualification or experience to get that. Just common sense. And psychopaths of all kinds use this "strategy" to seduce their victims. It's perfectly illustrated in the OP's example. I will tell you a nicely weaved romantic story of how divine Sub/Dom relationships are, while all I am doing is using you as an outlet for my frustration.

green.apple

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Online relationships and the Unsuspecting and Innocent True Wife Posted: 2/11/2010 2:35:14 PM
And you expected to find a Prince Charming in a Dom? "Dom" is just a nice word for a disturbed psychopath. Sorry this happened to you. You were obviously a total online dating virgin. Live and learn.

green.apple

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my boyfriend has left me cos my 10yr daughter didnt like him Posted: 2/8/2010 6:37:53 AM
I believe children should be seen and heard because they are not just some animal to be cared for, they are human beings with a heck of alot more to lose than what adults have to as they are totally dependent on adults for their very existance. Nice that you reminded us they are "human beings". Are you referring to the species that kills, rapes, does all sorts of evil things? Children are capable of evil stuff. Human evil nature can be proved by watching the behavior of kids. Just look at child social groups. Unfortunately, there will always be kids less rich, less attractive and less confident that will be bullied BY OTHER KIDS withing the same social group. I am not by any means saying that ALL kids are evil, I just wanted to deny the stupid statement that says ALL kids are angelic. My God people, are you coming from some other planet or what?

green.apple

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curious about how men view women who use an online dating site as one way to try and a partner Posted: 2/8/2010 6:28:16 AM
Men usually don't take online dating seriously. Wake up ladies. It's too easy. They can arrange a date while sitting in their pajamas. Men are not capable of having respect for easy things.

green.apple

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my boyfriend has left me cos my 10yr daughter didnt like him Posted: 2/7/2010 3:28:08 AM
Really, it's a no-win proposition for him. If he says anything he's jerk, if he leaves he's a jerk. Obviously you aren't going to pick him over your kid and he had the grace and decency not to force the issue. After 40 days he could see where it was going, why invest anymore time in what is shaping up to be a miserable life? Absolutely true.

green.apple

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Exes and Family Posted: 2/4/2010 2:15:32 PM
A family is a system, a country. Your father betrayed his country. It's about loyalty and national pride which he unfortunately didn't have. I know it will sound crazy and illogical, but it doesn't mean you father doesn't love you. He just needs a different communication system. You should have played your cards differently, i.e. being more firm with him, making huge scenes over everything etc. Some people understand only this type of language, and can change after the scene, for better. And respect you more. Wish you all the best, you seem like a very brave and good person.

green.apple

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If you like it then you should have put a ring on it. Posted: 2/4/2010 1:02:41 PM
My ex-wife was in a sorority in college. One of her sorority sisters was very beautiful and dated a lot of guys, all who wanted sex but were told she wouldn't sleep with a guy unless she was engaged to him. According to my ex, she got engaged 12 times during her college life.

green.apple

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my boyfriend has left me cos my 10yr daughter didn't like him Posted: 2/4/2010 12:40:45 PM
"copstav2, please talk to your daughter and get to the bottom of this. There may be more to it than you know. " Not really. Children of that age don't need much to dislike someone. All it takes for them is to feel threatened of losing their own position in that environment; they are quite egocentric. I agree though that it should be inspected and come clear about everything. By the presented dynamic, I see here a typical situation where the guy didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings by reacting with criticism and yet didn't want to put up with being in the checkmate position any further, either.

green.apple

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my boyfriend has left me cos my 10yr daughter didnt like him Posted: 2/4/2010 11:28:29 AM
"Holy Moly, he is letting a 10 year old dictate his adult relationships? " Yes, when you criticize someone else's kid, it's called abuse, and when you criticize your own kid it's called bringing up. He had two choices: to put up with the kid's whims and lose his nerves over it; or to react to it with proper criticism etc, in which case he may be easily regarded as the bad guy by the family. The third choice was to leave. The kid may just feel threatened by his presence, without him ever having done anything wrong to the kid.

green.apple

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Bad Sign If Saturday Nights Are Untouchable? Posted: 2/4/2010 11:15:15 AM
Well, you are obviously her sex buddy, and you are not " calling her on that" on her Facebook wall. What makes you think her other potential sex buddies would? And since when is the Facebook wall such a reliable source of one's personal information? 500 friends? Wow, that woman has no idea what the concept of "friend" involves.

green.apple

Joined: 8/20/2009

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women and cosmetics Posted: 2/4/2010 10:59:07 AM
"Make-up doesn't have jack crap to do with being fake. All it was designed for was to enhance a woman's beauty/looks. " Oh yea? What happens when the "gorgeous" woman takes her make- up off and takes her heels off? Her man suddenly sees a failed job in front of him, for example in the morning? Yes, I agree it's mostly related to glamour. A wise man once said: " Any woman can look glamorous, as long as she stands still and looks stupid."

green.apple

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women and cosmetics Posted: 2/4/2010 10:42:54 AM
I don't wear any make-up. Only hydrating cream and lip balm.

green.apple

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Contact wit the ex Posted: 2/3/2010 9:47:53 AM
Oh nice. Now guys can do all sorts of sht, because regardless of how huge the sht is, the time will wash it down in a couple of months and it will be OK to re-contact her. I learn something new every day.

green.apple

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Guy friend got a girlfriend, now I'm worried I'll get ditched. Posted: 1/31/2010 3:39:58 PM
I will never understand single people who are desperate to spend their time with couples.

green.apple

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How to admit it is finally over Posted: 1/29/2010 4:14:19 PM
And since they're not, you spend time with family, you go out with new dates, learn new recipes to cook and bake, see the movies you wanted to see, focus on work and your next self-development step, breathe in, breathe out, go for a run, let the days between the last time together and today accumulate... and just breathe. Breathe and replace. There are things and needs you can't meet anywhere else but in a meaningful relationship. It's not pathetic, it's just reality. Where else can you get a synergy of sex, love, emotions, companionship, sense of belonging, mutual goals? Nothing stronger than that ( in the adult world). Filling space and time with various things is not replacement. It's just being "active".

green.apple

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Have you ever ended a good relationship when someone else walked into your life? Posted: 1/26/2010 2:18:43 PM
" I curious on what would make a person leave a happy committed relationship? " Human nature. Excitement, challenge, adrenaline. It's in human nature to view obstacle-free, happy, smooth situations as "happy and peaceful" but "lifeless". They go pursuing excitement and vulnerability. It gives them highs ( and particularly sexual highs).

green.apple

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your thoughts on how i handled this situation Posted: 1/23/2010 6:12:30 PM
Actually, a famous sexologist said that when a man visits a lady, he should be fed by her ( her own cooking preferably) AFTER the sex, not before sex. And the quality and size of the meal will be in proportion with the performance he showed in bed. If she feeds him before sex ( common in modern civilization dinner and then sex), it's not good.

green.apple

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Men wanting back in your life Posted: 1/23/2010 1:15:00 PM
Green Apple, I don't think this is gender specific, I believe it goes both ways and is personality specific OK, I agree with that, yes. It's a very special personality profile. They can't like you unless you are unavailable. They need "an obstacle" in order to be able to generate their desire for you. All in all, they are not the people any confident person would choose to deal with, and more importantly, will make it clear to them.

green.apple

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Men wanting back in your life Posted: 1/23/2010 1:01:16 PM
Both know I am dating someone else now. I don't understand men why do they think I am willing to try again with them. In the past I have dated a number of men that left me for someone else and later wanting to get back together. I don't understand? Men usually come back to a woman who was an easy maintenance ( not too demanding), so they could get quite a lot from her without giving much. They both leave her and get back to her for that same quality. They leave her because she doesn't act like a challenge and they need that adrenaline elsewhere. When they get that adrenaline elsewhere, and it hits them, and they pay the bill for it, they again get a desire to go back to that good nice woman that never asked for anything and kept giving, giving, giving. That's pure human nature. Say there is a shop that provides quality goodies at great discounts.. would you keep going back to that shop? Also, you should be more strict when breaking up ( men are not implicit or empathic like women), you actually must tell them explicitly : do not try to contact me ever again, or I may use force. And then they won't, trust me. When I was in my twenties, I had a b/f who was taking me for granted.. broke up several times with me ( and I with him once or twice).. he always wanted to get back after doing horrible and humiliating ( emotional) things to me.. I remember I had been insulted by the mere fact he had the nerve to ever contact me at all, let alone ask for "trying it all over again with him". So, the last time, I had to threaten him not to approach me if he happens to meet me in the street or I'll punch him... some time later he bumped into me in a supermarket and he went all pale ( from fear) ;D..... and no, I haven't been annoyed by him and his demons since.

green.apple

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Why does he tell me i can do better? Posted: 1/22/2010 7:40:10 PM
While I understand the necessity to be determined and move on if a relationship doesn't work, I still can't get it why so many people on this site say it like there is a on/off switch for our emotions and relationships. You got emotionally engaged /ON - didn't work out - get out of it/OFF. Can our feelings really change merely by pressing a switch button? "move on".. some advice for an emotionally engaged person.

green.apple

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Cheating V Monogamy Posted: 1/22/2010 6:48:14 PM
Cheaters are insecure people with low self-esteem. It's not a habit. It's a deep emotional issue.

green.apple

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Serial Daters...Deal With It Or No?? Posted: 1/21/2010 5:44:16 PM
I definitely don't agree with the "dating several guys" so you can choose the right one. I imagine dating several guys and tuning in their different personalities would drain me and very likely make me drop all of them. And most importantly, I'd be drained and no energy left ( or willingness) for the right one when he comes along. So, it's totally opposite to what many people declared here.

green.apple

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Mom vs wfe Posted: 1/21/2010 5:27:36 PM
Your mom is great! I like that. She is f*cking your new wife ( the marriage breaker) in the brains!

green.apple

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Boyfriend problems, please help? Posted: 1/21/2010 9:59:45 AM
"I dunno if he's losing interest in me. I don't think he has another love interest because he never goes out and all he does is play his online games. " What makes you think another love interest is a woman, or even a human? His love interest are obviously video games. Maybe I should add that video games addicts are treated at the same department with alcoholics and sex or gambling addicts.

green.apple

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Serial Daters...Deal With It Or No?? Posted: 1/21/2010 9:48:35 AM
Serial dating is like having your plate too full and you eat until you start puking.

green.apple

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Should I have waited to sleep with him? Posted: 1/20/2010 4:19:32 AM
Your man got what he wanted, instantly and expressly. Now he goes on with his life. I suggest you to do the same. You did nothing you can't learn from. It's also possible he'll contact you again, out of the blue, hoping for a repetition. Respond to it, and consider yourself failed.

green.apple

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i just don't get it. please help. Posted: 1/17/2010 12:38:05 PM
I wonder if these guys who constantly play the field with dozens of women actually have anything else to get busy with in life. I mean, it requires a great deal of time and investment.

green.apple

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can you and an ex's really be friends? Posted: 1/16/2010 7:07:26 AM
Just tell him that you very recently had your first orgasm and omg now you finally know what all the fuss is about.

green.apple

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Why is there a rush to meet people from online chat and e-mails? Posted: 1/15/2010 1:22:42 PM
OP: It may be that those men are very aroused and want sex. And expect to get it from you ASAP. On the other hand, if you talked with a guy for months, and then met up with him, he may also turn out to be a superficial fake. No guarantee.

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