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Thread: A real woman
trailsman5
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A real woman
Posted:
10/10/2009 12:50:57 PM
Its true that some of the ladies that have have replied to this thread with sarcastic remarks about "boob jobs" also had much to say about "real men" and lamented that there were few in the world and that many of my gender do not fit that category. I find this a little disingenuous because , in both cases, men are to be blamed for the disfunction of perception. Perhaps a real woman would take responsibility for some of the misconceptions out there?
For example: I have been exposed to magazine articles that tell women what's wrong with them. How their make-up is soooo last year; that they need to learn new moves to keep their man from wandering; how a change in diet will fix the fatness of their rear-ends; etc. These are found in women's magazines with women's names in the by line. Cosmo has more pictures of bikini-clad, aerobicized nymphettes per page than Maxim. The sistahs are doing it to themselves.
As for the male notion of a "real woman"- if I see a peroxide-blonde, plastic-busted, face-painted, mini-skirted hottie walking down the street, I think to myself, "Wow! What a good looking woman. Sadly, she appears to be vapid and without a soul."
When I say "real woman" (as opposed to a fake one) I mean:
1. She goes without makeup more often than with makeup.
2. She farts (but is embarrassed by it, which is so adorable).
3. She refuses to put up with her man's sh!t, but has an endless capacity for forgiveness.
4. She has a little bit of junk in the trunk... and isn't self-concious about it.
5. She has strength of character and sense of responsibility.
6. Doesn't solve conflict by turning on the "frost machine".
7. Doesn't try to do a poor imitation of a man to get respect.
Some real women:
Eleanor Roosevelt, Joan of Arc, Aung San Suu Kyi, Jann Arden
Fake women:
Pam Anderson, Tila Tequila, any skank on Mtv's "The Real World" (ironically)
NB- There are degrees to the real-fake spectrum. Some are more real/fake than others.
trailsman5
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First sexual encounter with a new mate
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9/4/2009 6:29:39 PM
Part of the charm of the "first time" is that it is a little awkward. Think about what nookie can turn into after the first 100 times: I do this, you do that, finish up with this, maybe throw something extra in for a bit, then grab that cold pillow. You know exactly what buttons to push and so does she.
The first time is a little bit like discovering a new country. There's the thrill of exploration as you find out what buttons each other like getting pushed (maybe introduce her to buttons she didn't know she had).
Sometimes its fast, sometimes slow. But rarely boring.
trailsman5
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Rules
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9/2/2009 8:36:23 PM
I refuse to date fascists, white supremacists, or video gambling junkies. Maybe I'm being too picky, but one has to have standards. Not easy, living in Alberta.
trailsman5
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Kissing during sex
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7/26/2009 8:51:35 PM
They say the first thing to go in a relationship isn't the sex, but the open-mouthed kissing.
I don't think he's cheating on you. It could be that love making has become routine and he just wanted to get it on quickly and efficiently before getting some shut-eye.
I think you need to have an open and honest conversation with him if you want to create a healthy relationship. He probably didn't think it as such a big deal.
Personally, I think the kissing and hugging is one of the nicer aspects of physical intimacy. I hear the same thing from women- then they ask to do it doggy-style. Very confusing.
trailsman5
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CONTROLING GIRLFRIEND
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4/22/2009 7:49:17 AM
I think some men enjoy controlling women because they remind us of Mom. A woman who "gives us hell" when we are being bad little boys can be a familiar and comforting dynamic because it shows us she cares. Also, like with Mom, we fully expect to be unconditionally forgiven after we are caught with our hands in the cookie jar.
trailsman5
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It's all good.
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4/16/2009 6:46:06 AM
First of all, no man (and no woman) is entitled to oral sex. However, like hugs and freshly-baked cookies, it is a tangible demonstration to how we feel about our partner.
Secondly, there is the issue of swallowing. As a man, I like whenever my lady deals with a mess in a quick and efficient manner. But its also the icing on the cake. Who wants kissing but no tongue? Who wants cupcakes with no icing? Sure, I'll accept them with a smile, but I know something's missing.
That being said, I would rather no oral at all than oral with someone who does it out of a sense of duty or treats it like a chore.
Why would a man dump someone who doesn't swallow? Same reason a woman would dump a man who doesn't remember her birthday... because SO MANY OTHERS WILL.
trailsman5
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Do you snoop on the one you like/love?
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4/12/2009 7:21:56 AM
Either your relationship is based on trust and honesty or it isn't. Either you respect boundaries or you don't.
If you snoop and find nothing, will you tell your partner that he/she has passed your impromptu "security check" or do you keep snooping until you discover something you can use? Of course, at that point, you're the only one in the relationship being deceptive.
If you have to "gather evidence" your relationship is already lost.
trailsman5
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Take that, great-grandkids!
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1/30/2009 6:50:18 AM
I think its just terrific that, not only are we destroying our planet like locusts in a cornfield, but we'll be giving future generations crippling debt with our deficit spending. But hey, the auto workers and the oilpatch workers gotta eat. Sadly, there is no money for the blacksmithing sector- the one that the aforementioned industies drove out of business in the first place. Besides, what did future generations ever do for us?
I'm thinking of burying some time capsules with messages in it like, "Dear descendants: I'm sorry you'll never know what it was like to drive the Icefields Parkway in a Hummer with the stereo blaring and just throwing trash out the window, because it was totally friggin' awesome! PS- You suck!"
On the other hand, I recently read an article on Slate that got me thinking we may be missing an opportunity:
The PWA was the Public Works Administration, led by Harold Ickes Sr. The CWA was the Civil Works Administration, led by Harry Hopkins. Both were New Deal agencies created in 1933 to get Americans quickly back to work at a time when unemployment reached 25 percent, its highest point in U.S. history. The PWA failed. The CWA succeeded.
The strategy behind Obama's stimulus bill resembles that of the PWA. Like the stimulus, the PWA tackled unemployment indirectly by spending money largely through private contractors. That handicap—worsened by Ickes' cautious-to-a-fault management style—resulted in only $110 million of the program's authorized $3.3 billion getting spent during the program's crucial first year. Frustrated by Ickes' poky pace, Roosevelt yielded to the pleas of his relief administrator, Harry Hopkins, to help get unemployed workers through the coming winter by putting them directly onto the federal payroll. Roosevelt had been reluctant to create a federal work program for fear of alienating organized labor. Hopkins overcame that worry by pointing out that Samuel Gompers, founder of the American Federation of Labor, had in 1898 proposed essentially the same idea. Roosevelt diverted not quite one-third of Ickes' PWA budget to Hopkins' CWA with the goal of putting to work 4 million people. As a percentage of the population, that would be the equivalent of putting 10 million people to work today. In his first weekly radio address, Obama pledged that the stimulus package would "save or create 3 to 4 million jobs over the next few years." (His budget director estimates that 75 percent of the money will be spent within 18 months.) Hopkins got there within two months.
Full article at http://www.slate.com/id/2209781/
We all recognize that climate change is real. Now, whether its man-made still seems to be up for debate. One thing we can all agree on is that less pollution is probably a good idea anyways. The only thing holding us back from making the bold changes was pressure from industry and an electorate afraid of losing their jobs. Well, the economy has tanked, its effect not unlike the shaking of an Etch-a-Sketch.
If the private sector needs to cut back to stay afloat, I say let them! Lay off as many folks as you need to. The government will then spend its defecit, not on corporate welfare (which just adds a middle-man) but by putting those laid-off Canadians on the government payroll to repair bridges and roads. To build giant solar power plants and windmill farms. To build Atco trailers we can easily transport as we prepare for the landrush that will come as the North thaws out.
Is this the ranting of a madman? Perhaps, but lets debate the merits of this idea anyway.
trailsman5
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Article - Relationship Red Flags
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1/24/2009 6:57:15 AM
1. When they have absolutely nothing good to say about their ex's.
2. She often takes sips of liquor from the bottle in her purse.
3. A tattoo anywhere that features a swastika.
4. She invites you to participate in an insurance scam.
5. She often brings you presents... that she shoplifted.
6. Her conflict resolution strategies all involve making you feel small.
7. When she laughs with glee at the thought that she might be breaking someone's heart.
8. She solves most awkward social situations by lying.
9. She feels that summary executions for criminals and other totalitarian practices would be good for the country.
10. She doesn't like Star Trek (may be biased)
trailsman5
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If women were in power.
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1/18/2009 7:29:50 PM
If women were in power, there would be no more wars.
Look at Margaret Thatcher (wait, I forgot about the Falklands). Better yet, Golda Meir (whoops, she ordered the Mossad to take out the Munich assassins and fought the Yom Kippur War). Okay, then surely Indira Ghandi (oh, that's right. War against Pakistan).
Ooh. Reality. Seems women are just as good (and bad) as men. That's too bad. I was hoping someone would be the voice of reason.
trailsman5
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Injustice, forgiveness and healthiness
Posted:
1/18/2009 4:57:36 PM
serenity:
Excellent post. The questions you ask should be asked by everyone in those situations.
Its OK to love, but sometimes its better from afar.
trailsman5
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Injustice, forgiveness and healthiness
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1/17/2009 9:02:08 PM
When we give more forgiveness than we receive, it becomes an injustice that generates physiological changes that place stress on our bodies. Sorry if the connection wasn't obvious.
trailsman5
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Injustice, forgiveness and healthiness
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1/17/2009 7:50:20 PM
Scientists have recently confimed what was already suspected... that people experience real physiological changes when confronted with injustices. Think of what happens when we see someone mistreat a small animal or read about a dangerous paedophile getting acquitted on a technicality. Increased heartrate and feelings of aggression without an outlet can place undue stress on our bodies and affect our health.
Let's now consider the relationships in our lives. It is inevitable that we, imperfect creatures that we are, are bound to encounter boundary issues with others. However, we rely on a certain amount of forgiveness to smooth over the rough stuff. Sometimes we cross the line a bit, but if we take responsibility and apologise (some things are unforgivable, granted) its possible to move on.
What happens when we are in relationships that are inherently unfair? For example, the girl who demands to be treated like a princess while treating her man like a peasant. The neighbour who complains if your TV volume is above 2, but their 12 cats make the whole building smell like pee. The friend who gives outrageous opinions about everything, but becomes irritated when you question their opinions with logic and reason. The boyfriend who freaks if you talk to another man, but refuses to explain where he was until 3:00 a.m. The person who beaks off all the time about lazy street people despite inheriting everything he/she has. The mate that confronts you on any transgression (perceived or real) but refuses to deal with their own transgressions, instead arguing technicalities like a judge and jury is present.
Certainly these are difficult situations, but will the constant bombardment of negative feelings have an adverse effect on our health? Is it possible that these situations may have an indirect result on health by leading to dangerous practices like substance abuse or joining a cult where people "understand" you?
On the other side of the coin, are we honest with ourselves when comparing the amount of forgiveness we give versus the forgiveness we receive?
trailsman5
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Unconditional Love
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12/2/2008 8:53:21 PM
I once had a woman say to me, "I give unconditional love- but only to those who deserve it."
I don't think she understood what irony means.
trailsman5
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What is Spirituality?
Posted:
12/2/2008 8:49:23 PM
" I was in a bar at 3 in the morning when I met a woman who told me she was spiritual. I said, "Are you kidding me? You're drunk in a bar at 3 a.m.!" Yeah, you're a real Yogi Maharishi, lady."
-Bill Mahar
You know how people say that pet ownership teaches you responsibility, then you see homeless guys with dogs and you say to yourself, "Hmm, I have to question that wisdom."? I feel the same way about spirituality.
I have met several people who claim to be spiritual. They have their meditation mats, their gongs, their incense... yet these people are often self-serving, vindictive and retaliatory when wronged (both real and imagined), sometimes violent and often unwilling to listen to logic and reason.
This may not hold true for everyone, but from where I stand spirituality is an excuse to believe that magic, rather than the laws of physics, rule the universe- while at the same time you can sleep in on Sunday morning and there's no central moral authority to call you on your behaviour.
The ignorance of the masses with no accountability. No wonder its so popular.
Spirituality is supposed to be the mechanism that connects you to God. Either He's a remorseless jerk, or it ain't working.
trailsman5
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Heart or Head
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10/31/2008 5:57:40 PM
A very wise man once said to me:
At the beginning of the relationship the heart convinces the head that its a good idea. At the end of the relationship, the head has to convince the heart it was a bad one.
trailsman5
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Conflict resolution in relationships what do you do?
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9/21/2008 2:07:02 AM
think it's very insulting to men to describe them all as if they are little boys
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't suggesting we're little boys, only that society conditions us to a certain mindset since we were little boys. Surely you would agree that childhood is aptly named "the formative years" for very good reasons. I will agree that men are as guilty of the same behaviour, though the motivations behind it may be distictly male.
Maybe it's because I'm from the UK and we have more of a thing for the underdog here -- people who win are more likely to get fun poked at them than to get worshipped
I'm sure David Beckham is nailing Posh Spice because he's the wittiest man in all of England! Too bad for her John Cleese was already spoken for.
I totally disagree with your depiction of how things work.
Gee, I thought I had some insight into the male psyche. I'm glad there's a woman out there to correct me (see #5 on the list).
trailsman5
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Conflict resolution in relationships what do you do?
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9/21/2008 1:39:12 AM
First, allow me to address men's inability to resolve conflict:
Since we were little boys, competion and the thrill of victory is what determines your identity as a man like nothing else. Must get better grades, do better in competitive sports, earn more money, bed prettier girls, etc. Why, the only reason we went to the moon was to throw it in the Soviets' face (Take that, Uri Gagarin!) Before women take umbrage at this attitude, let me remind you that we see how you reward the mediocre captain of the football team instead of the extremely competent water boy.
Being a man is like being in a league with a million teams. Its why men who cheat (points for my team, yay!) get so devastated when they are cheated on (you let that other guy score!) . Its no wonder that we grow up seeing conflict as a winner-takes-all proposition rather than a prelude to a deeper understanding between two people.
That's not to say women are immune from poor conflict resolution skills. Here is my list of my favourite female conflict resolution strategies:
1. The old "I'm unhappy in the relationship so I'll treat you like crap until you break up with me because I want to play the victim" ploy
2. The silent treatment (May explain Condi Rice's strategy with Iran... with predictable results)
3. Thinking you resolved the issues when you discuss it face to face, only to get an angry email or text. Although the gentleman in the OPs post did this too. Its the emotional equivalent of firing off a missle from the safety of your bunker.
4. Passive Aggressiveness- Rather than confront you, I'll even things up by sleeping with your best friend.
5. Constant correction. Comes from the frustration that her love doesn't seem to be able to transform that loser into a leader of men. Ironic because he thought his love would transform that b!tch into a warm and loving person.
This list is by no means exhaustive.
trailsman5
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What is Spirituality?
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9/18/2008 2:48:24 AM
One thing that interests me is how you don't hear a scientist or anyone else who is intimately involved with the real testable world complaining that he can't get his job done 'cause he's being constantly distracted by seeing aura's or being interrupted by spirit guides. This kind of phenomena seem to come in a complete worldview package that is separate from the one's that practical minded people use. I wonder why?
Interesting point. I run into people all the time that claim to be "spiritual." It strikes me as odd that some folks will turn away from Judeo-Christian beliefs only to embrace some ancient mythos. Personally, the idea of a zombie rabbi in the sky is equally ridiculous as the idea of the Great Spirit creating the land by dropping his toenail clippings into the ocean. Probably because both ideas originated in societies that were not advanced enough for toilet paper.
It seems inherently contradictory to find truth in stories that were made up. Maybe because paleontology, astronomy, math, history, genetics, and physics only involve studying reality and quantifiable evidence instead of silly rituals and ornate costumes.
No one takes you seriously unless robes are involved.
trailsman5
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Would you nurse your cheating partner?
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9/18/2008 1:12:16 AM
There was a movie similar to this called "Regarding Henry." Harrison Ford plays a guy who was a soulless corporate lawyer, a filanderer and all around douchebag. He was buying smokes and a crook holds up the store. Before leaving, the guy shoots Henry in the head causing brain damage.
Like in the OPs post, Henry has to relearn everything. His wife and his personal care worker teach him how to function. He forgot a lot about things in his personal life before the robbery and he's a little shocked to find out what kind of man he was.
In the end, his wife's love helped him to connect to the good things of life and became a better person for it.
I'm not saying the same thing will happen, but sometimes the universe will give us an opportunity to "do over." Regardless of the man he was, the man he is needs compassion and care.
How many bad decisions in our lives can we make before we're disqualified from humanity?
trailsman5
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What to do if drinking and smoking rules his life?
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8/25/2008 8:22:42 AM
Women come and go... but beer and smokes will always be there for you. Face it, their relationship has been there longer than the one he has with you.
trailsman5
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Am I wasting my time?
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8/5/2008 3:14:59 PM
OP: Everything you've described makes him sound like the kind of guy who's been kicked around the block a few times. The prioritization of his kids and livelihood over your need for attention... an emphasis on scrutiny over sexual gratification- this program is designed specifically to find the "keepers" and weed out the Princesses, Ne'er-do-wells, and Clingons that lead to heartbreak and destruction. By leaving sex out of the equation, you find out if they have game or just man-bait.
If its bugging the crap out of you, I think that means its working.
trailsman5
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Why would anyone want to date you?
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7/25/2008 8:55:17 AM
Because I'll make you laugh and I rather enjoy performing cunnilingus (although its gauche to mention that).
trailsman5
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Age? How important is it?
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7/7/2008 4:01:15 PM
Reasons for going out with someone significantly younger:
1. They are in peak physical condition.
2. They tend to be easy to impress.
3. You look like a stud to your friends.
4. They are more apt to enjoy "low budget" dates.
5. The novelty of sex hasn't worn off.
6. They haven't become bitter and jaded from past relationships.
Reasons for NOT going out with someone significantly younger:
1. Meeting the parents is awkward.
2. You're from two different cultures (I cannot pick out Miley Cyrus in a police line up. Will I need to explain who Trudeau was?)
3. They are emotionally immature and may spaz out over insignificant events.
4. The relationship is usually based on the teacher-student dynamic. At some point, the student will surpass the teacher.
5. Most young girls are just trying to screw their way through their daddy issues.
6. Sometimes its eerily close to paedophilia (jizzing on a face full of acne, your fingers grabbing baby fat- these are the moments that try men's souls)
7. Older men hate you because they're stuck with their frumpy hausfraus, younger men hate you for stealing the good ones.
8. Younger people feel a greater sense of urgency in relationships (we will NOT be planning the wedding to coincide with our six month anniversary)
These lists are not exhaustive.
trailsman5
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Bringing up kinks that I haven't explored but which he has
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7/7/2008 3:31:31 PM
No man will ever judge you by "not being slutty enough" in your past. So lose that misconception. The problem is if you want to try something, and he doesn't want to because he has and doesn't like it. At least with an inexperienced partner you're starting with a blank slate.
trailsman5
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Traditional vs. Emergent Dating Etiquette and Beliefs.
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7/7/2008 3:25:12 PM
Tradition is the default position we rely on when we realize we don't know what the eff we're doing.
trailsman5
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2 alcoholics in a relationship.... what happens?
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7/7/2008 3:20:55 PM
what happens when 2 alcoholics get together.
The wedding reception is the wickedest kegger you've ever seen!
trailsman5
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Cuddling... The Biggest Issue!!
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5/30/2008 3:01:20 AM
Giving a female friend a hug is one thing... lingering is quite another.
trailsman5
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Metro Sexual Guys
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5/28/2008 3:01:18 AM
I'm what guys used to look like... I guess that makes me a Retrosexual.
trailsman5
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Ever had sex w/ a homeless person?
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5/21/2008 1:45:12 AM
I would like to thank all the open-minded ladies out there that shared their love with me while I was "getting back on my feet".
Also, I'd like to apologise if you found some of your electronics/jewelry missing. If it makes you feel better, the proceeds went to making a difference in my life. I thank you all of you beautiful people.
trailsman5
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Forum fallout
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5/17/2008 2:09:03 AM
I have received fall out of a different type from the forums. My girlfriend, who is not a member, checked on the site to see some of my forum comments. Unfortunately she took some things out of context, not to mention the horror of an unfiltered look into my brain, and it created some tension. In fact, I may be in trouble just for writing this. We'll sort it out, though.
Some good things came out of reading/participation in the forums. These threads clearly illustrate the difference between emotional maturity and immaturity. Its helped me see "red flags" where before I may have turned a blind eye. Also it gave me some insight into how women think (it was like staring into the abyss).
OP, there are good guys, and you should give your BF the benefit of the doubt.
trailsman5
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Which is the worst form of cheating?
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5/17/2008 1:47:09 AM
Trailsman: I don't think you are talking about the same thing as emotional cheating.
I appreciate the nuance of your argument. However, many women see an emotional affair where only friendship exists. Or perhaps they accurately see their man develop feelings for a female in their life, but don't give him the credit that he can exercise some moral self discipline. Reality is perception.
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Which is the worst form of cheating?
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5/16/2008 2:40:58 AM
OK, I have to call BS on this one.
The OP wrote:
i think that emtional cheating is worst because that means you are making a connection
This idea is supported by many (mainly female) PoFers.
How many threads have we seen in these very forums that basically say, "Oh why can't a man that you get along with just be friends? Why is it always about sex?"
But now being friends, making a non-sexual connection to a member of the opposite sex, is now a sin to be avoided. Who are these men that women want to be pals with? Are they in relationships too? How do their GFs feel about the friendship that you feel is so innocent?
You decry men for wanting sex, but apparently that's more innocent than just watching the game together.
This seems like a nuanced version of "I don't want you, but I don't want anyone else to want you either."
trailsman5
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Evolution: Highly probable?
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5/10/2008 6:14:49 AM
There is no god their never was one and in all probability their never will be one no matter how much someone wants there to be one.
To say that, with no proof one way or the other, is as intellectually dishonest as asserting there IS one. Also, there is no consensus to the nature of God, so you may be right AND wrong.
However, it's honest to say that, if there is a God, He/She/It/They didn't write the Bible or Quran, nor give commandments to humanity, nor suspend the laws of physics. Also, highly unlikely to be an old guy in robes micromanaging your life and sending winged children to watch you as you get smoked by the commuter train.
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no gods , r just me
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5/10/2008 4:25:37 AM
the bible say put no other gods before me.
An alternate theory is that the Bible is full of... um... baloney.
All religions are just somebody's best guess at how the universe works. Most are not very good guesses at that. The truth is that no one knows for sure.
But if I HAD to pick one, it would be Thor. Jesus was never one of the Avengers.
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Evolution: Highly probable?
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5/10/2008 4:21:09 AM
The simpler the organism, the shorter the lifespan, but they reproduce and mutate at astounding speed. With each mutation they have a chance of adapting better.
Quite correct. That's why viruses become drug-resistant. Yet more proof that evolution exists (call it 100% probability).
I don't know why everyone acts like evolution is some controversial theory that just came out in the past decade. Darwin wrote his book in the 19th century. It wasn't embraced at all and there were many people who set out to de-bunk it (unsuccessfully).
If you want to cling to the "its magic" theory, then I might suggest that the Rennaisance was wasted on you.
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Just wondering if its okay younger vs older, age and consent
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5/10/2008 3:54:31 AM
wow im confused like you say its 16 and but then you say 14 -15 can if im not 5 years older...so im only 3 so can or cant i
Legally, you can. That doesn't mean there aren't people out there that will consider you a slimebucket. The reason you shouldn't have sex with her (unless you have to repopulate Earth, which is unlikely) is the same reason a 50 yr old guy shouldn't... its not his age that matters, its hers.
At 15 she is just "blossoming" and probably sexually and emotionally confused. Jeez, just look at the dipsh!t things 20 yr olds post on here. She has chemicals running through her brain (as do you) that she needs to mate with someone she has a connection with, as though we still live in the Stone Age. She gets crushes on her teachers or other adults. She's thrilled to death that an "older" man of 18 talks to her (even though many would still consider you to be still a kid).
In many ways, she is like some poor farmer who wins the lottery and is itching to spend it. Maybe he would love to buy a warehouse full of Elvis collector plates or ocean front property in Saskatchewan, but it doesn't mean you have to be the sleaze that sells it to him.
Even a willing victim is still a victim. If you want to be seen as a man, then wait until she's old enough to make that decision. Otherwise, you may be in for more drama than you can handle.
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I walked away... but my feelings changed...
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5/9/2008 2:52:03 AM
He's a nice guy. Leave him alone and spare him the drama. Meanwhile try to become emotionally mature so you don't do this to the next decent guy.
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Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
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5/9/2008 1:36:20 AM
OP, clearly you are not as cool as your girlfriend and this can create tension in a relationship. Let her go, so she can find someone to take to the jazz club while you attend church or a Young Republicans meeting or whatever you do in your spare time.
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SAGGING PANTS, crotch at the knees ... Do genitals really go down that far?
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5/4/2008 6:10:18 AM
So... every young guy I see has his pants down around his knees.
BUT every old guy has his pants pulled up around his armpits...
Does this mean it shrinks over time?
Great... one more thing to keep me awake at night.
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The Way to Snag a Man...
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5/3/2008 1:21:14 AM
But what if she meets a guy that won't buy flowers or dinner until she puts out? Stalemate.
OP, clearly your friend hates men in general. There are self esteem issues at play (the idea being that a man would never genuinely "love" her) and she's making it more difficult for her "sisters" find happiness in their quest for someone to grow old with.
She's only going to burn the nice guys, who will get the wrong idea about feminine motivations. How many men walk away from her, muttering, "Never again"?
It also sounds like she thrives completely in the attention of men worshipping her.
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Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
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5/2/2008 2:37:15 AM
Scryer41, I have asked many questions of Christians in my posts. Why have you not answered any of them? Allow me to answer some of yours.
<div class='quote'>If you believe in God... why call him a lier? God inspired the men who wrote the books of the Bible. If you say that what HE told them to write was a lie, then you are saying God lies
Your premise is based on believing that God spoke to these people. I have an alternate (and more probable) explanation. God didn't speak at all. A bunch of guys who lived at a pre-Amish level of civilization got together, reworked and updated some stories (like we did with Battlestar Galactica and Charlie's Angels) from ancient Babylon, Mesopotamia, Egypt, etc. to entertain and reinforce cultural norms. Publishing laws were so lax in those days that they were not required to add a page that said, "Any resemblance to actual persons or places is purely coincidental." This would explain why the Bible's explanation of how the universe works, from a terracentral universe to evolution, constantly breaks down in the face of scientific and archaelogical evidence.
<div class='quote'>I'd reather believe in what HE says than what the world says
Of that, I am certain.
<div class='quote'>As for finding evidence that evolution is fact.... If that's so... tell me Trailsman5, why ae scientists now thinking it's not all that it's cracked up to be and are reworking the "theory"?<
What peer-reviewed scientific journals are you getting your information from? Look, evolution is something that we agree occurred. The findings from studying the fossil record, animal physiologies, microbiology all form the same picture. The controversy is over the hows and whys of the process.
Here's how science works: A dude has an idea about something and sets up an experiment to see if he's an idiot or if he's on to something. If he fails to show that he's an idiot, he publishes the results. Then all of his buddies (who are jealous of his brilliance) try to poke holes at his methodology and recreate the experiment to see if the results are consistent. Others will perform different experiments to show the veracity of alternate theories. The cycle continues...
So you see, my friend, there are really smart people who spent a lot of money on education and have no vested interest in controlling your behaviour trying to show that scientific community is wrong. Thats why evolution, a 19th century idea, is still around today while phrenology (determining traits based on the shape of one's skull) is no longer around.
He was no zombie
He rose from the dead. He's either a zombie or a vampire.
<div class='quote'>A group of scientists say to God... "Hey! We can make man out of dirt.
If science proved that life can be produced from dirt, you'd probably jizz all over your Watchtower library because FINALLY reality would match what you think reality is. You'd be praising science and encouraging the kids to read Discover magazine. You'd see the church fund dirtology research centers.
If I met someone who described themselves as Christian- to me, that's like announcing that you think Batman is real.
"Oh yeah. He's a millionaire who dresses up in a costume and fights crime with his adopted teenage son. I'm hoping to visit Gotham City when I save up the money."
Well, one of two things are probably happening:
1. She's mentally ill.
2. She has limited access to information.
So I would probably explain to her that she's mistaken. Maybe point her to Wikipedia. If she persists in her fantasy, I will have to assume the former rather than the latter.
Sorry if you think I'm a hater for pointing out the obvious, but at least I'm not knocking on your door on a saturday morning.
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Scryer41 - Excellent!!!! Where did you find that- the exchange between the student and professor!?!?
Why oh why hasn't anybody responded to it????
Oh, I wanted to, but I thought it was off-topic. But since you brought it up...
Not one peson with all the smarmy,mean anti-christian and blasphemous posts can respond to this brilliant presentation of logic....
Please allow me to make one. The "brilliant" post you refer to asserts that there is no evidence for evoluton. Why is it that Christians demand proof of evolution (of which there is much. The fossil record, genetic markers... its all there. You have the internet- Google it) but accept stories about talking snakes (of which exists NO archaelogical evidence) readily and without question? How is that "having your eyes opened"? The Flintstones wasn't a documentary series, dude.
Now for the topic at hand:
I get that Christianity may bring peace to your soul. I think that's awesome! Going to church allows you to connect with the rest of the community. Fantastic! Really, what harm ever came from bake sales? Belonging to a church gives you one more support network, and who couldn't use something like that?
However, while I agree that church is a great place to meet classy, quality ladies who are less likely (not unlikely, just less likely) to spend your money gambling, or not respect the relationship, or develop an addiction- I disagree with the implication that non-Christian ladies are all drunken-nympho biker chicks. It reflects the I'm-better-than-you type of arrogance that many Christians typify.
Sure, your Christian girlfriend keeps herself healthy and won't sleep with your buddies. But how will you feel about your relationship when she won't have sex with you outside of procreational purposes because it makes her "feel like a wh@re"? How about when your son commits suicide because his mom made him hate himself for being gay? How about her refusal to allow your daughter get an abortion after she was raped? Not to mention watching the woman you love having her mind twisted by men with their stories of damnation that scare the crap out of her. Hmmm... good catch indeed. What do you expect of a woman that puts her imaginary friends before her family?
Yes, they scare me.
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Whatever Happens Happens
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4/27/2008 5:15:56 AM
To some guys, "Whatever happens, happens," implies that there are no restrictions... a softer, female equivalent to "No Holds Barred. "
It means (in their head) that sex HASN'T been ruled out and may happen if they play their cards right.
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Does an unrequited love adversely affect our chances of finding someone new?
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4/24/2008 1:36:13 AM
OP, its not neccesarily about comparisons. I think you have to get to a place where you fully accept that "unfinished business" will remain unfinished and you can move on. At least you are being honest and true to yourself.
First, the heart tells the head to go for it. Then the head tells the heart to forget it. A story as old as time.
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When the little guys stick together
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4/23/2008 11:51:35 PM
I guess all the people murdered by Saddam didn't need protecting?Did the live people being tortured need protecting?
Saddam was a bad guy... I won't argue that. But even he didn't ethnically cleanse Baghdad or send millions of refugees fleeing across the border, or turn hospitals into killing zones, or turn the country pre-industrial (do I need to continue...?).
Amputating the head is not a good treatment for brain cancer.
Thank God the self-proclaimed Hitler of the middle East is dead.
Brother, IMO God would tell you that experiencing glee from anyone's death doesn't do your soul any good.
Now Find a Solution To Iraq and bring our Army home.
Anyone who understands the difference between the Mahdi Army and the Badr Brigade will tell you that your sequence of events are in reverse order.
If only the fine men and women at the US Department of Justice, State Department, Environmental Protection Agency, CIA, et al. had the guts of a Durban dock worker and simply crossed their arms and said, "no sir," you'd still have Habeus Corpus, the Posse Comitatus Act, trillions in the bank, and no torture victims of your own.
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Pentagon institute calls Iraq war 'a major debacle' with outcome 'in doubt'
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4/23/2008 12:59:04 AM
And the "Stating The Obvious" award goes to...
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When the little guys stick together
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4/23/2008 12:38:38 AM
A month after elections in Zimbabwe, Pres Mugabe's ZANU-PF party has refused to release the results citing some "election irregularities." Meanwhile, a Chinese container ship filled with weapons and ammo has been steaming toward Africa, ostensibly to provide Mugabe's regime with the means to crush opposition and stay in power. However, the ship ran into problems.
<div class="quote">Is Robert Mugabe's lawless misrule founded in jealousy?
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, April 21, 2008, at 11:55 AM ET
Robert Mugabe
The stirring news—that the dockworkers of Durban, South Africa, had refused to unload a shipload of Chinese weapons ordered by the lawless government of Zimbabwe—made me remember very piercingly how good it sometimes felt to be a socialist. Here's a clear-cut case of solidarity and internationalism in which the laboring class of one country affirms the rights—"concretely" affirms the rights, as we used to say—of its brothers and sisters in another country. In doing so, it improves the chances of democracy worldwide. This is how socialism began, with Karl Marx and his allies organizing a boycott of Confederate slave-harvested cotton during the American Civil War, and however often a thieving megalomaniac like Robert Mugabe claims to be a socialist, there are still brave and honest workers who, by contemptuously folding their arms, can deny him the sinews of oppression.
I do not describe myself as socialist and don't wish this posting to be seen as an endorsement. However, do we do enough to keep "The Man" from screwing over our fellow citizens? Do we feel that no one is getting screwed? Why?
Full article at
http://www.slate.com/id/2189558/
Solidarity!
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addiction, crack of all things
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4/17/2008 6:06:18 AM
Be advised, OP, that addictions like this don't happen in a vacuum. Chances are he's suffering from mental illness brought on by chemical imbalance, deep emotional trauma, or both. He simply isn't emotionally capable of sustaining ANY relationship except with his crack pipe.
If you love him, let it manifest itself by getting him the help he needs. If he doesn't want it, then love yourself by getting the help you need to have a healthy relationship. Wouldn't he want that for you?
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Would you seriously date a woman or a man if they told you that they did not give oral sex
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4/13/2008 12:47:51 AM
HA! As much as I'd like to say its a deal breaker, it has been my experience that this kind of stuff dries up after six months anyway.
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