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whenyer_strange

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An inspired thread from Welfare Posted: 12/18/2008 6:38:37 PM
The health of a society is determined by how that society treats it's lowest members. People are so affected by the environment that they are raised in that it takes a higher than normal human drive to step away from the environment they are used to. Children of rich parents that live in nice neighborhoods and who have all the advantages in life will generally remain that way. Children of poor homes, or abused children, etc, will tend to live in that kind of environment their entire lives. The children of rich parents tend to think that children of poor parents are just lazy and don't realize that the poor children usually have to put in much more effort to get to the same place in life as the right children. There's a lot more involved here than just whether one is irresponsible or not. There's general human tendencies, sociology, natural abilities, etc., at work here. Some people were never born with enough ability to be anything but a burger flipper in their lives, yet they are scorned for being that way. Would you do the same to a person who was born without the ability to walk? Putting a limit on the amount of children born for all of humanity would be kind of hard because the issues currently are regional. A professor from China said it was the same issue there. If one had lots of money, one could just pay the fine for the extra kids, or have them in different countries. If one was middle-classed, the fine burden is too much so you avoid it. The poor have nothing anyone could take anyway, they don't have the resources to prevent birth, except to never ever have sex again, and they don't have any alternative thing to do with their lives. This just isn't a black and white issue.

whenyer_strange

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Guys judge women by when they sleep with them? Posted: 12/7/2008 8:58:45 AM
how often (if at all) it happens that a GUY loses a GENUINE interest in YOU because you slept with him on the first / ninth / whatever date HE considered too early. I had that happen once. It completely confused me since he was the one who started becoming "friendly" first. I think it was somewhere the 5th date that it happened, but it's not like we didn't see each other and talk a lot outside of dates. He said I was too "sexual." (?? Whatever that apparently means....) I was pissed off, but I just wrote it off as him being messed up in the head. Also, I think the chance came around for him to get back with his ex, after she went running around checking out a different relationship possibility, that failing, and her returning home broke needing him to take care of her. That's way too much BS drama for me, so it was just as well that he was gone. The ex issue may have had more reason to do with it than the sex, but sex was the only explanation he gave. I have seen other posts on POF where the guys claim that if a woman gave it up too soon that he'd lose respect, though he would still sleep with her, and just lose the respect afterwards. I don't recall the threads I saw that in. As far as the stuff I'm reading that it's the woman's fault.... it's not her fault that sex occurs. I actually know quite a few guys that abstain from sex, and some even until married, and it wasn't due to a lack of possibilities. It takes two, so the guy actually has equal blame for the sex. Now if the woman is later whining about it, saying "where are all the good guys", etc, then that tells me that she refuses to take responsibility for her actions. Again, it's equal fault there. There are good guys and good women, it's up to the individual though to go through what is required to find one of those. One won't be handed to a person on a silver platter.

whenyer_strange

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Is there a way or just forget it. Posted: 11/30/2008 7:19:33 PM
I start out badly with them, but after I fold enough, eventually I get to a point where I can force it to look square, then I pile all the fitted sheets together and pile the flat sheets on top of them to hid my bad folding abilities. I don't let anyone else make the beds so that no one else sees.

whenyer_strange

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How can happiness last? Posted: 11/12/2008 3:52:21 PM
I consider myself happy. I have something I'm working towards. When I have that, life is always better. When I finish one goal, I move to the next.

whenyer_strange

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Can i be your hero baby? Posted: 11/9/2008 2:50:14 PM
What if you went a more moderate route? Maybe a woman that has some needs and some independence? Beware of those with extreme needs. If she really can't seem to get through her own life without someone taking care of her, that's bad. But, having someone who makes things a little easier is wonderful. Or, OP, you mentioned "great sex" as a need. Maybe the woman that you think is great on paper really needs great sex? Actually, I think most of us can list that as a need. In fact, I think I'll have to tell my boyfriend that he's stuck with a "needy woman" since I'm one of those that needs great sex. :-)

whenyer_strange

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Materialism vs. Finding Mr/Ms Right Posted: 11/9/2008 9:25:58 AM
I don't think there is such as thing as the "perfect" companion. I thought I had found that, but there was a hideous flaw that remained hidden or barely noticeable for many years. I'm not concerned with having a "perfect" companion. I've learned how to work around a lot of things (except the one I thought was perfect), so I'd be happy with an average companion. Basically, it's not money nor the mate that makes a person happy. It's how a person deals with it. No where was it mentioned that a person would never have love if they didn't take the money. I'm very capable of loving a non-perfect person. I'm even capable of loving someone that has some traits that really annoy me to where I have to grit my teeth to get past those annoyances. Yes, there are completely intolerable things, but those are far beyond just an imperfect mate. I'm far more capable of getting a mate I could be happy with than I am of coming up with millions of dollars at once, so I'd take the money, stash it away, live moderately, and deal with the mate part myself.

whenyer_strange

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Philosophy Question: Would you rather be famous or rich? Posted: 11/7/2008 9:41:43 PM
Being famous is absolutely out of the question. Forget it. How rich do you mean? Just rich enough that one can retire, do a little travel, but still live a modest life? Or do you mean rich as in 5 mansions around the world and 3 of the most expensive cars, and designer clothes? Conspicuous consumption brings a sort of famousness to a person. People notice you. I don't like being noticed all that much. Just enough notice to have a good job, a good guy in my life and a few great friends is all I need. I might like to drive an interesting, fast, or nice car a few times just because it would be fun, but I wouldn't really want anyone to see me doing it. That's something I like about my bike. I'm so covered in riding gear that no one can tell who's there. I need something to do that's constructive. Having not lived a life that didn't involve some sort of work or plan for my day, I don't think I could do it long term. I need to move forward on something, whatever that may be. That means I would either be still working, or just working reduced hours to give myself more time for personal things. If I quit working, then I would need a schedule that would involve lots of activity to keep me busy. Add in some volunteer work as well. Anyway, I guess I'm choosing rich, but with limitations. I definitely don't want to be Bill Gates type rich. Doubling my income would make me very happy, though most of the population would still say that's not enough money. I'd still fall under middle class I think. Also, was rich necessarily defined as rich with money? Or just rich in anything?

whenyer_strange

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Not doing the same thing every guy has ever done Posted: 11/3/2008 10:26:33 PM
Appears to be a tough crowd this evening. When I was 20 I got along very well with creative introverts, philosophers, artists, etc. There are many though who try to fake being something they aren't. I had to stop going to coffee shops for a while to prevent me from turning around and pummeling the next person trying to fake being intellectual. I don't refer to myself as an intellectual, but more of a redneck with a natural ability in logic and creativity, and I see trying to prove one is intellectual to be arrogant. Anyway, the type you seek is out there. Join a philosophy club. Check out the meet-up site for people or groups with similar interests. Check out the couch surfing site, do a little traveling, and crash on the couches of those who think similarly to you. They will in turn introduce you to others much like yourself. You don't have to suddenly become a social butterfly, just pick a couple of groups that are right up your alley. How I met my boyfriend was from just an interest in being friends due to our mutual interest in motorcycles, and there was a motorcycle show I wanted to see in his area. I thought a couch crashing would be perfect. The rest just sort of happened on its own. When you let whomever you are flow out naturally rather than trying to mold it and force it to fit what you think you should be, you will be more relaxed, appear confident, and will attract those who can reflect who you are.

whenyer_strange

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Stupid loud mouth women Posted: 11/2/2008 5:24:50 PM
I know most would like to say it's entirely a generational thing, but usually the apple does not fall far from the tree. If the parents are respectful people, their children will be as well.

whenyer_strange

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Selecting activities Posted: 10/27/2008 6:46:46 PM
My boyfriend got me into roller skating. Another male friend (not a dating friend or anything) got me into Disk Golf. I'm not really into watching sports...well, not much, but I don't mind if he does just as long as he's fine with my horror flicks. I might sew or work on something for work while halfway watching the game. I did get into hockey for a while though. Basically, I need a strategy shown to me. I need to make it something one can think about before I get interested. I watched NASCAR for a while too after a friend explained it in physics terms what was happening and how it played a part in the strategy. I'm starting to watch motorcycle races and have been really interested in watching their form and how they take some of the corners. I've failed miserably at mimicking them on the track.

whenyer_strange

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babies after 40. Posted: 10/27/2008 6:39:57 PM
Kids are here for OUR entertainment; not the other way around.

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What separates you from the rest? Posted: 10/27/2008 6:38:32 PM
I just snag guys at random and tie them up in my basement, so I don't have to worry about whether they'd pick me or not.

whenyer_strange

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Montel question #1 Posted: 10/25/2008 8:00:33 AM
I could give up my driver's license for 5 years. I could give up a license for my car permanently if I could keep my motorcycle license. In fact, I've considered doing that on my own anyway. Just some things are really hard to haul on a bike (just recently hauled home a huge load of rock that I dug myself for my driveway.) I have learned though that I can strap a watermelon to the passenger seat though, so life is good. It's not so much as protecting my right to vote and realizing that a car is nothing more than a luxury for me. I would probably be ok without the bike, but I would certainly be depressed for a long time over it. There's lots of things I could live without. The right to vote is more important, but I don't really believe much will really change anyway. I will vote and then go hide again.

whenyer_strange

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what women want... Posted: 10/21/2008 10:45:10 AM
Its just like houses and cars...ask someone what they WANT, and what they've HAD, and usually you get two different answers. Well, I want my house and my car to be inexpensive and low-maintenance and to have lots of character. What's really funny is that does describe my boyfriend too, except for he doesn't occasionally drop parts on the ground. My boyfriend likes very fine tuned machines that look hot, can hold the corners, and have plenty of speed. I don't match his car at all. His car can do circles around my old truck even going down the road. I sure hope that he's not looking to date the equivalent of his car. I'm more like my truck; slow, cautious on curves, and occasionally lose a part on the road that needs to be re-attached with a piece of old wire.

whenyer_strange

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what women want... Posted: 10/20/2008 8:33:21 PM
I think I'm fairly specific. Rather than getting slammed for it though, most men run away, or give a recommendation for what meds I should take and then run away.

whenyer_strange

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Does your girl like shopping?any girls dosent like shopping? Posted: 10/20/2008 11:14:59 AM
I only like shopping for motorcycle stuff sometimes. The problem is finding quite exactly what I want. It can take years sometimes. It took me 7 years and several hundred dollars to find the perfect pair of motorcycling gloves. It takes me an average of 3 years to pick out the next motorcycle. I still haven't found a perfect motorcycling boot. Actually, I think I would be happiest if I could just find the perfect gear for riding the first time, but that doesn't seem to happen. Some day I'll have the perfect set-up, and then I'll buy 10 of each item so I never have to shop for gear again, just new motorcycles. If they'd stop changing the styles for regular women's clothing, I'd have no reason to ever shop. I'd just set up an online order that I redo every so often to replace worn out items.

whenyer_strange

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Do politics matter? Posted: 10/17/2008 6:10:37 PM
As long as the person is fairly intelligent and has a logical reason behind what they support, I have no problems. I completely understood why my dad was a republican. I'm not, but we could discuss it sensibly. I know of a couple that are at extreme ends of the spectrum and they get in heated debates, but they aren't arguments. Just debates. I think they like it. I can't stand stupid, mindless slogans, so I tend to walk away from the users of slogans hand-fed to them by "society" or the media. Well, ok, there is one slogan I like.... Beer makes it all better.

whenyer_strange

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Dogs on the bed Posted: 10/16/2008 8:31:22 PM
Ewwwwww. Nope, no critters. I can't even do it in the same room where the iguana is in his cage. In fact, in one location, the iguana could see into the bathroom and he'd just take too much interest when someone used the toilet to suit me.

whenyer_strange

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Is Bald Beautiful? Posted: 10/16/2008 11:04:09 AM
My guy has exceedingly thinning hair. He still wears it in whatever style he happens to feel like at the time. He'll grow it out to down his back, then he might get it cut and try stylish, then he might cut it extremely short just to get it out of his way, then he lets it go again. I don't really notice the thinning, even though other people have commented on it to me and keep telling me what I should suggest to him. It's his head. He does what he wants with his hair and I do what I want with mine. Besides, since he's a couple inches taller than me, it's not like I can see the top of his head anyway. I'm too busy looking at other things to waste time trying to get a look at the top of his head. Now I find when I get talking to women I have no trouble at all but looks is the best way to spark the initial interest. If I had to rely on looks to get a guy to notice me, I'd be in some serious trouble. I'd say looks is the EASIEST, but by no means the best. Looks tend to be someone someone naturally has or doesn't have. It generally is not something cultivated like intelligence, personality or skills are. Plastic surgery when used to just look better (except in cases of severe accidents) is dumb and a waste of money. Yes, I am a snob about my opinion on that too. Even being thin at one point does not guarantee the person either wasn't heavy before or won't be heavy in the future. Basically, if you play the "looks" game, then I guess you will have to try and keep up with that crowd, because that is the type of people you will be dealing with and how you will be judged.

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Old friend Posted: 10/15/2008 6:12:22 PM
But she keeps saying to me I don't think I could date you out of the blue with out me ever bringing anything up. I don't quite understand what she means by that. Does she mean pointing out faults? Pointing out other guys? Puking in your shoes? This November a couple of friends of mine are getting married. They were only friends for 2 years with nothing romantic nor sexual happening. Then they started dating out of the blue. It didn't take very long after that for them to decide they were a perfect match together.

whenyer_strange

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How do you ask a lady to dye her gray hair Posted: 10/15/2008 11:05:29 AM
Exactly! If she were to dye her hair she would then need to go in every six weeks to have tohe roots touched up. the initial color job (no highlights included) your looking at a $50-$100 minimum depending on where she goes and then the touch ups are about the same range. Don't forget that not all hair takes to dying well. Depending on what is used, I've had a few cases where all my hair broke off. That included a couple that were done professionally. Dyed but missing is not a good look for most women. I'm going gray already, but my hair is light enough that the only ones who notice are family members. We all tease each other about our growing old traits, so I think we've developed a pretty thick skin regarding it. If the woman involved has allowed her hair to go completely gray, that would suggest to me that she's very aware of it and has accepted it.

whenyer_strange

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How do you ask a lady to dye her gray hair Posted: 10/15/2008 10:22:42 AM
It's not her "job" to look good for you. Have you ever considered that SHE might like it that way?

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What do i do if she ends up unattractive? Posted: 10/14/2008 8:10:36 PM
Photos just aren't going to always show people at their best or their worst. My driver's license pic makes me look like some psycho killer that has just escaped from the nut ward. I was having a very bad day. All my friends have nearly fell over laughing at that pic. I have more than one that are that bad. I also have a few that make me look pretty good. One can do all the comparison in the world they want with pictures, but you will never really know from a picture. Even in person, one very upfront male friend has informed me that some days I just don't look attractive, and other days I look very attractive. It's just the way it is. I do not consider looking good one day, when the next day I might look horrendous, to be misrepresenting myself. The only person in the equation of having problems with pictures is the viewer. You don't have to necessarily mention that you don't find her attractive. I think saying that you don't feel that you two are a good match will suffice. My ex looked horrible in pictures. No way would I have thought I'd be attracted to him if I saw a picture first, lol. More than one person has declared that they found the pictures of my boyfriend unattractive. Then those who have been him in person have declared that he's very cute. It happens.

whenyer_strange

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How do I state my marital status in my profile? Posted: 10/14/2008 10:38:45 AM
There are so many married people who claim they are separated when they really aren't that many would prefer to just stay away. Then there's the ones that separate and then return to their marriage after playing around a bit. When one can't be bothered with the divorce process, then how much can one be bothered to put effort into a relationship? My ex and I had our divorce started and done in 3 months. We want to kill each other. We could have avoided it and waited a long time, or get it done like yanking off a band-aid really fast. We chose the latter, and it's nice to have it done and over with.

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Swearing Posted: 10/14/2008 10:34:11 AM
I generally don't swear much until I'm playing frisbee golf. Then there's some swearing going on with every messed up throw. Mostly it's "d@mmit" and "stoopid frisbee" and maybe a "f*ck you, I know you moved to be in the way" to a tree. In a joke swearing is fine. In everyday use, it can get annoying fast.

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Long walks on the beach. Fact or Myth? Posted: 10/14/2008 10:29:42 AM
There are no beaches where I'm at. I'd rather go hiking in the woods. Granted, getting all sweaty and dirty might not be all that romantic.

whenyer_strange

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How to be more interesting profile wise Posted: 10/8/2008 11:11:17 AM
OP: I think you and I might be alike. You can ignore those that just want to criticize based on weight. My personality is all I've got these says, and I actually meet far more interesting, intelligent and exciting people now than I ever did when I was a gazillion years younger and looked like a over-endowed (breast-wise) cheerleader. I have never been accused of taking life of myself too seriously. Show that in your profile. If you reflect in your profile what you are trying to attract, then they will find you. (Yes, I actually even found a strange boyfriend with this method.) Don't "tell" what you want or who you are, try to show it in how you write. Your post at the beginning of this thread was on the right track, but be careful not to accidentally fall into cutting down yourself.

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Does your gym suck? Posted: 10/7/2008 10:40:28 AM
For me, I have to be comfortable in the gym I'm in for me to be willing to go. I just in the last month finally found one I really like. I've had a ton of memberships to various gyms and really hated each one. I don't like seeing broken equipment at gyms. It makes me not trust the equipment there. I need to be able to get time in on the things I need instead of some brute thinking his lifting is more important than mine and spending all day on the item I'm waiting for. At one gym, there was one guy who always had one of the things I needed. I would even do all other exercises, then do my cardio, and the guy still hadn't left the stupid machine. This is after over an hour of being there. I can't stand watching some guys sizing up the women. In fact, I would stay far away from the good-looking women in the hopes that I wouldn't have to see the change in facial expression when I was suddenly noticed. I just want to do my thing and leave, not deal with a stupid meat market. Finally, one single comment about my looks or weight instantly kills a gym for me. I cancel my membership immediately after such a thing. I had to go to a physical therapist that was attached to a Gold's Gym. I didn't know how to get to their door so I cut through the gym. The therapist paid for patients to use some items in the gym as part of their therapy. This was my first day there and immediately I had a comment from a guy I passed. Due to that, I will never, never, never get a membership to Gold's Gym. I couldn't wait for that therapy stuff to be done so I could get out of there. If anyone wonders why some heavy people avoid the gym, it's the stupid sizing up and comments that completely kills it. The gym needs to be a positive experience before one will go. I like my current one enough that I can even get up early and be there by 5:30 am, even though it's clear across town from me. The person at the desk always smiles and says hello instead of treating me like a leper. The people I've run across at the gym have all been very nice. Actually, the 5:30 am crowd seems to have a bit of camaraderie going, and there hasn't been one single critical comment. The only thing I miss at my gym is a smith machine (the one with an attached bar instead of a loose bar), but I've managed to work around it. It's just a local gym, so if someone local wants the name, just shoot a note to me.

whenyer_strange

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Liquid Vitamins - Are they that much better? Posted: 10/6/2008 8:59:58 PM
Since another poster suggested consumer reports I did a little looking: Liquid vitamins not necessarily better absorption: http://blogs.consumerreports.org/health/2008/04/qa-liquid-vit-1.html It does look like Consumer Reports has it all: http://www.consumersearch.com/www/family/multivitamins/. I think when there are tons of people promoting one vitamin or another, it can get really confusing. I found it interesting that the highest ranked general multivitamin was the Walgreen's brand. That one definitely does not break the bank.

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Liquid Vitamins - Are they that much better? Posted: 10/6/2008 8:48:18 PM
I had started a thread before noticing this one, so I killed that other thread. In the spring I tried a supplement called Veema. Prior to that, I was taking just plain old multi-vitamin pills. I had been searching for real information about whether a liquid vitamin is that much better, and if it is, and the body is not even using the pill vitamins, then what would be the point of any other kind? I've never heard of a doctor specifying such a thing, except in one case where he was a Veema user. It's very expensive (at least to me). It's about $70/month. Also, I think there are a couple of things missing from it that I need, so I'd still have to buy a couple pills. Is there such a thing as an over-the-counter liquid vitamin that doesn't break the bank? I just can't find where: 1) Real studies are done and not the ones just for marketing. (Can't be verified as being true by any authority.) 2) Real comparisons between different supplements. Any suggestions or comments?

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Is clinical depression caused by internal or external forces? Posted: 10/6/2008 8:34:44 PM
The good news is all Depressiopn is managed by medications. It takes a long, long time to find just the right one though. Terrible external factors can't be cured with a pill, only the chemical imbalance. There are situations where, even though the meds are helping, the situation is such that the person is still overwhelmed.

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Guys: How Do You Define Feminine? Posted: 10/6/2008 7:57:39 PM
Jumping through hoops to please as many of the opposite sex as possible is a waste of energy and effort. If she doesn't really like wearing dresses and makeup, then what's the point of dating a guy that wouldn't like her without those things? Does she realize that once she starts faking being someone else that she locks herself into having to do that the rest of her life? If she isn't into the "feminine" thing, then she's not being true to herself by trying to be someone else. And dresses in Canada? I don't even like dresses in Illinois due to being cold when wearing one. I'd like to see any guy trying to run around outside half naked with a set of heals on when there is ice and snow everywhere. Yes, I understand one can carry an extra set of shoes and even an entire set of clothes everywhere they go so they can be in a dress and heals inside while being warm with safe walking outside, but that is seriously a pain. Then, if one goes to a gym, that's a 3rd set of clothes to lug around. And don't even start with various makeups and ways of doing one's hair. If I had to carry so much stuff to leave the house, I'd have my truck full every day, and I'd have to attach a trailer to my motorcycle. Anyway, yes, I know this doesn't answer the "what is feminine" question, but I'm telling you from a female who has also been occasionally accused of being a dyke, just being oneself can be very liberating. I did spend years putting on makeup and spending an hour doing my hair. It sucked, and if I ever took a day off I was accused of being a slob. I have a lot more time now to do fun things rather than standing in front of a mirror. EDIT: I guess I should clarify this. Some women like the makeup and dresses thing. Since they naturally like that, then it doesn't constitute jumping through hoops for a guy. For them, camping out in the mud might not necessarily be fun, so they shouldn't jump through hoops for the guy that wants a girl who can get dirty. One should go for their match rather than trying to force themselves to become someone else's match.

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Why is attraction the most important quality people look for? Posted: 10/6/2008 7:42:47 PM
undeterred by social convention I don't think not following social convention necessarily makes one a "bad boy." Being creative and unique falls in that category (undeterred by social convention) as well. I'd say putting on the overpriced Harley outfit and jumping on a 20k bike is a common thing some associate with "bad boys" and it's just soooooooo overdone that it's nothing more than another cliche. Drinking at the bar until the puking point has been done by people since....well, since the invention of alcohol. And each person who has done it less than a dozen times still thinks it's something to brag about. Dulllllll, very very dull. So, on that note, I would agree that I have an attraction for unique people, but the "bad boy" thing has been done and is still being done by thousands....it's old, it's boring. Only those who are equally unimaginative would get excited over that. I've noticed guys only get upset when they see a hot girl with a jerk. I'm sure if the girl was over 200 lbs., she could be beaten to a pulp right there and many would just turn and walk away. Until people start treating those, who don't have the looks that "society" says everyone is supposed to like, as human beings rather than as a disease, I feel no sympathy for anyone whining about an inability to get a date.

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Would you date a guy that kissed your sister? Posted: 10/6/2008 6:03:37 AM
I don't know about those two, but in my case, I don't think I could date anyone that had kissed any of my family members whatsoever.

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Msg: 17 (view)

What do you think about the concept of Posted: 10/5/2008 7:46:33 AM
The league thing is dumb, BUT if you play that sort of game and have this rating system for women based on physical attractiveness, then you are going to get burned by the very same thing. Men can't be pursuing women for looks, but then expect to be rated by a different measuring stick than what they are looking for. If a guy says it's a "total package" thing, then again, he will be rated the same way. I know I place almost all my requirements into intelligence and personality. The kind of people I know are very much the same way. There are still many who would say I'm not intelligent enough or don't have enough personality for them. Whether we are a match or not is a moot point. I am not the one those people are seeking, so to whine about it or to try and convince those people to change their minds is pointless. It amounts to acting like a spoiled brat over not getting what one wants. When some people complain that women or men are shallow, it's often a case where they refuse to accept that the "hottie" didn't desire them as much as they desired the "hottie." People use all sorts of excuses (they're shallow, they're overestimating the "league" they are in, etc.) for it rather than just letting it go and moving on.

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 7 (view)

Honesty Posted: 10/4/2008 5:12:21 PM
I guess I better let my boyfriend know I'm a man-hater. Does that mean he's not a man then? I think he'd be really surprised to find out he's actually a lesbian.

whenyer_strange

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Msg: 20 (view)

Why are my female friends so critical? Posted: 10/3/2008 5:13:36 PM
Will you remain their friend once you are dating someone or do you suddenly disappear? I tend to get along with my male friends best when they have someone that they are dating. The only problem is when they are dating someone EXTREMELY jealous. I don't tell my male friends to ditch their women, and in fact, I am more comfortable when they are dating someone. I keeps them from ragging on me about my boyfriend, and keeps them from asking me why I'm not dating them instead. But, the jealousy thing is really, really annoying, and I know more than one time I've been "banned." I never try anything with my male friends and never hoard their time. Based on my experiences, if your female friends are very distressed about the thought of losing you entirely, then I could see that behavior coming out. I've seen it with a few of my male friends when I started dating someone too. I think it's born out of fear, much like a jealous person is within a relationship. The solution is to stay the same good friend you've always been to them. Hope that made some sense.

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 19 (view)

When does being particular become being too unrealistic? Posted: 10/3/2008 4:57:43 PM
This isn't a gender specific thing. I've seen a few guys' profile that list acceptable weights and clothes sizes. Are you particular in that you want to approach those women with the strict lists? If so, what makes those women with strict requirements better than all the other women on here? EDIT; Ok, you say you aren't talking about yourself. Why does it concern you then? EDIT2: You have quite the list there yourself in your profile. I'm sure you'd say that those are merely describing the person who "matches" you, but then, who are you to say who matches those other women?

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 4 (view)

the 48 laws of power Posted: 10/2/2008 9:08:26 PM
Even though I have witnessed such thing in the corporate world, I think being a people-user ultimately make one a very sick person. You will find people of the same ilk with the game you play. There are some things I agree with and that would be to allow another person to see themselves as smarter. Putting a person down makes them build a mental wall of protection. When I'm helping a person with their computer systems or networks, I don't want them to argue or to think they're dumb or insulted. I want them to exactly follow a set of instructions that I give them that will fix what's wrong. To get them to do that sometimes takes almost sweat talking them a little. Would I ever do that for ill gains?? No. Are there people I'd love to take down even if done maliciously? Yes, but I don't think I could ever bring myself to do it....I've just thought about it for years. There is something fundamentally wrong with just seeing people as tools.

whenyer_strange

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Msg: 10 (view)

Accessibility and the rights of a girlfriend Posted: 10/2/2008 9:01:04 PM
I guarantee every woman on here has had some pretty horrible experiences, or just merely crappy, with idiot guys. The thing is being a crappy person is not gender specific. There are just crappy people. I think it's impossible to avoid all of them, but there are steps one can take to avoid many of the crappy people. There are perfectly nice men and women around. I think the times I've been more of a hermit and refused to associate with many others are the times that really nice people have taken the time to say hello and become a friend.

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 10 (view)

Do They Not Believe That We Know What They Are After? Posted: 10/2/2008 8:47:51 PM
I would say it's a matter of percentages. About 80% of the married people on here could be suspect for looking for other things, but 20% really aren't. The 20% don't deserve to be treated harshly due to what the other 80% do. If you talk to them for a while, you will eventually figure out which group they belong to. Also, I have lots of married and taken friends. Granted, I'm always looked at funny by their other halves, but really, I'm not about to do anything with someone who is taken. I just don't believe in that BS. It takes getting to know someone though to decide if they'd do that or not.

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 7 (view)

Am I just a sentimental sap? Posted: 10/2/2008 8:40:08 PM
I think its a natural reaction,from what you have said you have got the thin end of the wedge and has caused you problems whilst your ex has left you with all the problems whilst she is having a jolly old time. Ditto there. Really, if she's not bothering with the kids, then there really is no reason to be civil. I used to feel that I had to be nice after my ex pulled similar crap (just no kids). I just loved sleeping in a sleeping bag in an empty apartment that was nearly a dump while he was being taken to Europe by the person he left me for. If life doesn't have to be fair, then there's no reason to be nice either. She doesn't deserve your concern.

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 9 (view)

Country living and not rich Posted: 10/2/2008 8:34:26 PM
I don't mind living in the country, but I still need a job somewhere, and I just wouldn't handle giving up my motorcycle. Also, some places I say "no" to because I feel there are too many idiots nearby.

whenyer_strange

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Msg: 27 (view)

Who should be alowed to vote? Posted: 10/2/2008 1:12:53 PM
When I lived in the UK each party published a manifesto of what that party stood for & what they would alledgedly do if elected... they also got ONE 10 minute tv spot on all channels & that was it. If you couldn't get your ideas etc across to the voters in that 10 minute period you were SOL... I like that. Ages ago, I saw one created by a local newspaper. I felt they were pretty good about being non-biases and just listing facts, platforms, and voting records of the candidates It was a large chart, but had everything I think one could want to dig up about someone. I don't watch the TV for election news. Once I have my list of people running at all levels, I sit down and spend hours of mind-numbing reading on the internet and make notes. I write down then on a piece of paper who I'll be voting for with each office (unfortunately, sometimes I don't get through every one). Then I vote, and finally, go drink a lot of beer in the hopes I forget what just happened. It would be really nice to have 1 chart and 1 time only to watch a debate and be done with it.

whenyer_strange

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Msg: 15 (view)

Who should be alowed to vote? Posted: 10/1/2008 8:49:03 PM
The thing is that one of the rights in the US is to be as dumb as a person wants to be. If a person votes for McCain, because he/she thinks it would help get Palin to give them sexual favors, or maybe for Obama for those that prefer his running mate, then they can vote that way based on that belief. It's dumb, yes, but completely legitimate in the US. The reason is that laws in the US affect the: Poor Rich Educated Uneducated live in city live in country celebrities hookers etc. There are people who can't vote. I think convicted felons, non-US citizens, and people under the age of 18 can't vote. EDIT: We are NOT a democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic. Some say a "Representative-Republic" or "Democratic-Republic", but most certainly we are not a democracy. I was just thinking I needed to mention that, but you have it. :-) It was suggested I think to make it possible to vote online about every little thing, but it is just too easy to thwart that system. Hackers would get paid great money to throw a monkey wrench into that one.

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 46 (view)

Coming Soon to a Grocery Near You: Genetically Engineered Meat Posted: 10/1/2008 8:41:54 PM
Most of my relatives are farmers. I like to watch what they eat, and the ones that die the soonest...I avoid what they eat. The ones that live the longest, well, I eat what they do. Basically, I eat deer, ice cream, and alcohol. (Yes, alcohol is a food group. And grandma said that Blackberry Brandy cures both constipation and diarrhea....see...it's good for you. :-) ) If my cousin eats genetically engineered meat and lives, then it's alright by me.

whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 12 (view)

Engagement Ring Posted: 9/30/2008 6:58:04 PM
A friend of mine has recently started his own business, so money is tight for him. He proposed to his girlfriend. He handmade a ring out of stiff paper so that he could have a section that looked like it was supposed to hold a gem. In there, he placed a dime. That way, he would be giving her a "Dime-in-Ring." I thought it was pretty cute and ingenious. She accepted.

whenyer_strange

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Msg: 14 (view)

Is it Possible? Posted: 9/30/2008 10:38:26 AM
Im in a relationship and I know he loves me with all his heart. But I'm not sure if he's attracted to me. He claims he is and says I'm beautiful and he doesnt mind me being big, but Im not so sure. It's only an insecurity thing. For those who might say lose weight, doing that for another person is a recipe for failure. In fact, it's far better to just work on being healthy than getting on a scale. I have never dated anyone that has asked me to lose weight. I've never had a breakup over my weight. He's staying with you for a reason. If he wasn't happy, he'd leave. Just accept it as it is and don't over-analyze.

whenyer_strange

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Msg: 11 (view)

About this PlentyofFish thingy... Posted: 9/30/2008 10:20:50 AM
No, this site does not work. It never will. You should probably delete your profile and muddle in the corner of your room about how no one will ever love you. Especially since you're such a nice guy who's a unique little snow-flake with so much to offer. And yeah, a sex change would probably be a good start. Better start popping those estrogen pills now. Ok, that was the most awesome reply I've seen yet in the forums. EDIT: Oh, and yes, I met my boyfriend here. Been together for about a year and a half. I've turned into a forum troll though. I think it's the payoff for a date.

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Joined: 4/10/2006

Msg: 9 (view)

Who would you date during a massive recession? Posted: 9/29/2008 6:24:48 PM
I'd keep a man around, or maybe even a few men. If times get tough, I'll be the one with plenty of food. I'm sure it's no harder than skinning a buck, right?

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