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 Author Thread: Lie by Lie: Chronicle of a War Foretold: August 1990 to March 2003
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Lie by Lie: Chronicle of a War Foretold: August 1990 to March 2003
Posted: 9/1/2006 7:02:24 AM
I love it when people are left to read merely the facts. There's no disputing this timeline. It's part of recorded history. The neo-cons cannot defend this because for the first time someone has compiled the lies in chronological order. Brilliant.




http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 41 (view)
 
Palestinian Homeland
Posted: 9/1/2006 6:58:04 AM
i think 1f should be designated 4f cause sister, you ain't all there.

I'd say your a few tomatoes short of a good thick sauce.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
What's this? Iraq veterans speaking out against Bush?
Posted: 9/1/2006 6:46:16 AM
Son of a ****.... Well would you look at the finger that the Iraq vets are sticking in Bush's eye. Now if we could just find one who could put a boot up his ass.

Iraq Vets Slam Administration for "Fascist" Language


NEW YORK - Iraq veterans today blasted the Administration for its recent rhetoric on the war in Iraq. Republican Senior Advisor to VoteVets.org, Sam Schultz, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, released the following statement:


"I am a proud Republican, who ran for my party's nomination for Congress in Indiana, because I believe in traditional values.


I also believe we need to be vigilant in defending America. That is why I feel I must speak out about the Administration's recent contention that the war in Iraq is part of the fight against "Islamic fascism."


First, we are not fighting an enemy that fits the definition of fascist, nor does Iraq resemble anything close to Hitler's Germany or Mussolini's Italy. Second,I do not believe the war in Iraq has furthered our war against radical Islamism. I can attest to the fact that after my time in Iraq, when I served in Afghanistan, we did not have enough people on the ground there to secure the border with Pakistan, and as a result, many terrorists slipped through our grasp, most likely including Osama bin Laden.


Because we have so many troops committed in Iraq, not only have we failed to bring those who did us harm on 9/11 to justice, but Iran has continued to pursue a nuclear program. Our preoccupation with Iraq, and this administration's unwillingness to devise a victory plan for that war, has reduced us to a paper tiger in the eyes of the Iranians. They do not fear military action against them, because they know we are too overextended to wage an effective battle with them.


The only way to combat the threat of Islamic radicalism around the world, and protect America, is to draw up a plan for victory in Iraq, which will allow for our troops to redeploy from the region as quickly and safely as possible. This will show Muslims there that we are dedicated to providing them the very things they want - a flourishing, free, and independent nation. Then, and only then, can we recommit our forces to an all-out manhunt for the head of Osama bin Laden, and offer a real deterrent towards the further development of a nuclear Iran.


Until the administration realizes this, the lives of every American are at grave risk."


VoteVets.org is the only political action committee headed by veterans of the war in Iraq, to benefit the campaigns of other Iraq and Afghanistan veterans running for public office. VoteVets.org also holds accountable those public officials whose words and actions adversely affect our troops and veterans.

 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 48 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 9/1/2006 6:40:13 AM
Mike.... Based on what you just said:

If I was a woman, i'd screw ya.

The lack of American morality is stunning. Today, morality is defined by your government as killing people, un safe sex, removal of freedom of choice and speech, lack of religious freedom and well... Let's face it, AMerica is still one of the most racist nations on the planet.

Why don't you move north to Vancouver or Toronto. If you make films, this is a perfect place for you to be. I'll put ya up for awhile. We could use more people like you in our country right now, before our government does what Bush has done to America.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Sen. Burns says terrorists drive taxis by day
Posted: 9/1/2006 6:15:08 AM
Oh for crying out loud.

What a nation of racists and bigots.

Guys like him are the reason people like me say the things we do about your country. What a shameful statement.

When are you guys going to grow up? I mean, who talks like this in a modern society? Oh, right.... Americans.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Sources say Bush negotiated with terrorists. Or were they on the Whitehose payroll to begin with?
Posted: 8/31/2006 11:11:08 PM
The problem is: Nobody knows what any governmental organizations "mandate" is anymore. So that shouldn't even be brought into the debate.

Did the CIA have a mandate to make Colin Powell look like an Uncle Tom at the UN?

Did Hoover have a clear mandate or did he just make it up as he went along?

Did Bush have a mandate? If so, it was never made clear.

If your belief is that critical thinking is essential then so to do we all have our own mandate(s) to honour and implement.

America has failed to secure any credibility in the past 5 years. That, in effect makes them lack credibility on all fronts, not simply on what the item of the day happens to be. Critical thought (and we both agree on its importance) is what allows ME to speak my mind and YOU to disagree.

My methods or my comments----as you pointed out----are perhaps right or perhaps wrong. it depends on your own personal mandate. Plain and simple.

How do you know for instance, that i truly feel the way I do about America and Americans? You don't. But your own beliefs and your duty to common sense and open discussion permit you to put into question my loyalties or lack thereof. Words on a page I'll agree; mean very little; and with that being said you can never know if I really feel the way I do or whether or not I'm creating my own style of propaganda to incite as many people as I can to enter into the debate.

The assertion that the information may have bias is plainly understood; as is anything that I post. I'll never deny that. However, I will say that the propaganda coming out of the united States is palpable and not entirely discounted by anyone, any longer. Al Jazeera has as much ceredibility as FAUX or CNN. It has to have. It deserves to have. Any mainstream news source from any country must be considered relevant in a time when our hopes, thoughts, wishes and security is being threatened by dangerous people living very near us.

Neville Chamberlain was pounded for his association with Hitler. He thought the man was of no worry to the safety or security of Europe. He did however sentence more than one person to the back benches for disagreeing with him on this point. The most prominent person who voiced his opinion and began to create dissention in the rank and file of Chamberlain's government was none other than Winston Churchill. At the time, Churchill was viewed as merely a "problem child." The Brit media took what Neville gave them as gospel and Churchill disputed it. The similarities are frightening between Great Britain then and now. Ironically (and I think you'll agree) there is nothing that is credible coming out of todays media. I just happen to believe less from America than I do from anyone else. It's a choice.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/31/2006 10:08:42 PM
"Who" steals from "the productive?"

Our taxes haven't changed since Mulroney. Our taxes have gone to pay down national debt.

Perhaps if the government did things such as: Pursuing legal action aginst those that sign sponsorship agreements (and in turn agree to be fiscally responsible for 10 years) for new immigrants, we'd have some of our money back. What about Ontario... A good friend (an immigrant who married a Canadian) recieved a lump sum payment from the government to support her young child and an opportunity to better herself in school. The payment was a loan. She payed it back.

Government in Canada has some wonderful opportun ites to offer those less fortunate or temporarily down on their luck. Blame the peons that are unwilling to chase down the bad guys, not our system. The "system" isn't broken but those that work in it are taking from us and reaping the benefits of government employment.

Don't blame Parliamentary Democracy for the short comings of the beurocracy within which those that work for us refuse to do their job.

(She tried for 3 years to get the government to make him (her deadbeat ex husband) accountable for the monies she recieved... I helped her through it. They (the peons) were too lazy to do the paperwork that would have held him accountable for the contract he signed with the Government of Canada.) This was not Ottawa's fault. It was a lack of committment by those that should be protecting our money.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Time to repeal the College Aid Drug Law H.R. 1184
Posted: 8/31/2006 9:51:28 PM
What does smoking a joint have to do with my credit rating?

Aren't soldiers supposed to be fighting for freedom? That means the freedom to blow a joint now and again. Some of the worlds greatest thinkers used drugs. What's next? Perhaps a DUI should mean you never recieve car loans.

What about recovering addicts? Those that haven't used drugs in years but still have a conviction on their record. If a paroled murderer or an incarcerated murderer can get a university degree then NO PERSON should be forbidden from the same RIGHT to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. It's in your constitution.

Or maybe this will be just another amendment that Bush pi$$es on too.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 39 (view)
 
THE BIG LIE: ISLAMO FASCISM *sigh* more of the same...
Posted: 8/31/2006 9:40:44 PM
To be fair... I was just in Croatia on vacation. It' beautiful and while it's been only a few short years since NATO and the UN intervened it's a wonderful country and I would live there tomorrow.

No garbage on the streets. No McDonalds. No Burger King. No trash. No American corporate influence. Try it sometime.

Go to Prague. Go to Bosnia. Go and see it first hand and then ask the same question.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
How America plans to win the war in Iraq. They hired a PR firm. LMAO
Posted: 8/31/2006 8:54:59 PM
The Israel dilema would have been solved by now if America hadn't been supplying them and just about everyone else with weapons of mass destruction.

I see lots of people insiting that the UN is "useless" but not one person---politician or otherwise---has a solution that doesn't involve Americas agendas. Offer a viable alternative and I'll listen.

Bush just keeps saying it's broken but he offers no solutions. The administration hasn't offered a single, reasonable option. This to me is proof that the UN is working fine. Maybe if America co-operated once in awhile instead of jamming bombs down peoples throats on a whim the world might actually begin listening.

There's a saying that suits modern America perfectly: "Listening when you're "right" will never proove you wrong, but listening when you're wrong will very often make you right."

America doesn't listen. That's the fact of the mater.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Sources say Bush negotiated with terrorists. Or were they on the Whitehose payroll to begin with?
Posted: 8/31/2006 8:46:48 PM
I read the story.

Critical thinking means not believing either side. Currently there is no solid eveidence to support either argument but I haven't discounted it as a "fluff piece" such as you have.

Lets' give the story some time and see if there's any investigative journalists who can prove or dis-prove the item.

One would have to be half daft to read such a small snippet and believe it or dis-believe it.

Just as you look at it as a "fluff piece," i choose to lend it credibility until someone proves it wrong. Let's see if the administration chooses to adress it. The've avoided adressing facts in the past, so why wouldn't they do the same now. They've lied before, so why wouldn't they do it now.

If your wife cheats on you and denies it, that's one thing. If you catch some guy balls deep, that's another. And America has been caught dead to rights in lies for the past 5 years, why should ANYONE believe that the administration is on the level at anytime now or in the future given their past record.

As far as the FBI being over there... Think about it. The CIA is GWB's own little SS Force. You can't send an organization into this type of firestorm when it's so closely tied to the Whitehouse. GWB has been caught using the CIA to propogate lies in the past, he can't afford to get caught again.

How about this? Why would the CIA ask an Ambassador to go to NIGER to investigate yellow cake uranium production? Why wouldn't they send someone more qualified, like a real spy or a weapons inspector?

Something is rotten in the states and you can't discount the Busheviks doing whatever they can to hang on because if they lose the house and the senate, they're all facing indictment.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/31/2006 8:34:58 PM
How on earth do you justify Canada as a "communist nation?"

We are a parliamentary democracy. By rights then; Great Britain, Austrailia and all other nations with parliamentary democracies are communists.

If you want the truth... America is a "republic." Just like the former Soviet Union. Canada is not. You merely have to read The Charter to know that. Then again, you probably haven't read the Charter have you?
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Sources say Bush negotiated with terrorists. Or were they on the Whitehose payroll to begin with?
Posted: 8/31/2006 6:33:09 PM
@bobby

It was on the ABC NEWS website.

Of course most Americans would say that it's a left wing news organization but the fact remains... It's mainstream media and it's there.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/31/2006 6:28:53 PM
Ever heard of TD Waterhouse?

CIBC Wood Gundy

RBC

BMO

Care to check out which banks in the US are the largest income earners...

RBC comes in around number 5.

Oh and listen fish-head...

I don't avoid taxes. I just learned how to pay them properly. Don't blame someone for doing what's right and legal. I suppose you wouldn't want to put more money in your pocket each year? Try and learn how the system works. If I hadn't had someone teach me how to "partner" with my government to retain more of my finances, I might be broke. Instead I learned. You should try it. You might hate Canada less than you already do if you gave it a shot.

I utilize the same tax exemptions and write offs that all businesses do and I stay within the parameters set out by the CCRA. Just because people in general are foolish and buy RSP's and Mutual Funds because their bank "tells them to" don't blame me for making money because you can't. LOL

My businesses are legitimate and I employ people.

What are you doing for the economy, other than whining and complaining about people who know how to earn? Sad, really.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 6 (view)
 
How America plans to win the war in Iraq. They hired a PR firm. LMAO
Posted: 8/31/2006 6:21:09 PM
@intercooler

"I sincerely hope this serves as iron clad proof how important it is to get your news from a variety of sources, including those outside of the US."


NO $HIT!
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Keith Olberman Savages Rummy, Bush and Cheney. This is a Patriot!
Posted: 8/31/2006 6:15:34 PM
Glad you liked it Intercooler.

It rang so true it's frightening.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/31/2006 4:14:18 PM
A rich state leads to immense power (see the USA). Huh?

How do you figure? America's been broke for decades. The point is that THEY ARE NOT rich. America is flat broke, and has been for years and will continue to be for generations more. Look at the Swiss instead. There's an example of a society that works. It's expensive as hell to live there, but the wages are good, people are living their lives. Amerioca isn't a model to be followed. Most Canadians know that. (And so too do you if I'm reading you correctly.)

Our tax system while imperfect certainly remains far more responsible than the American one. No one is unfairly treated. If you want to get ahead, and you want to maintain your nations economy-----get a GST number, cut your neighbours grass once a week and guess what? You have a legitimate business that the government will pay you to have.

GST-------------It's a windfall for me every year.
Expenses------ I write off my dog food and even my shoes.
Capital gains-- I NEVER show too much of one.
RRSP/Mutuals- Avoid them like the plague. I just open another business.

Thetre is no law that says you can't have a business. There's no law that says you can't own 100 different ones. The GST was designed so that you didn't have to claim it until your business earned more than 20,000 dollars per year. That's alot of extra income that the country allowes you to earn, isn't it? It's also alot of additional write offs that the gov't allowes you to benefit from.

The tax dollars garnered from the GST and some of our other taxes is used to fund things like infrastructure such as roads and health care and environment throughout the year and when the year is done.... Our government is willing to give it all back to us. ALL OF IT!

If you don't know that or haven't tried to make it happen, it's a persons own fault. The information is there.

I pay 2500 dollars a year to someone who ensures that my taxes are done, my books are in order and to defend me in the event of an audit. These are things that little gov't agents (like accountants) WILL NEVER do for you.

It took me years of living hand to mouth to realize that a sole proprietership and some self learning puts US well ahead of many other nations.

If you wanna bellow about medicare, talk to Alberta. They gave EVERY citizen a rebate chjeque of 500+/- dollars this year. The money should have gone to the feds. That's where it belongs. Alberta may drill the oil, but CANADA owns it.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
How America plans to win the war in Iraq. They hired a PR firm. LMAO
Posted: 8/31/2006 2:59:50 PM
When the war couldn't get any worse, Bushdecides that a PR firm is of better use in Iraq then say----------"a military plan" or maybe-------"an exit strategy."

What wonders will never cease to amaze.


Positive Press on Iraq Is Aim of U.S. Contract

By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 31, 2006; Page A20

U.S. military leaders in Baghdad have put out for bid a two-year, $20 million public relations contract that calls for extensive monitoring of U.S. and Middle Eastern media in an effort to promote more positive coverage of news from Iraq.

The contract calls for assembling a database of selected news stories and assessing their tone as part of a program to provide "public relations products" that would improve coverage of the military command's performance, according to a statement of work attached to the proposal.

The request for bids comes at a time when Bush administration officials are publicly criticizing media coverage of the war in Iraq.

The proposal, which calls in part for extensive monitoring and analysis of Iraqi, Middle Eastern and American media, is designed to help the coalition forces understand "the communications environment." Its goal is to "develop communication strategies and tactics, identify opportunities, and execute events . . . to effectively communicate Iraqi government and coalition's goals, and build support among our strategic audiences in achieving these goals," according to the statement of work that is publicly available through the Web site http://www.fbodaily.com .

A public relations practitioner who asked for anonymity because he may be involved in a bid on the contract said that military commanders "are overwhelmed by the media out there and are trying to understand how to get their information out.

"They want it [news] to be received by audiences as it is transmitted [by them], but they don't like how it turns out," he said. As an example, he said, there are complaints that reports from Iraq sometimes quote Shiite cleric and militia leader Moqtada al-Sadr more than military commanders.

The proposal calls for monitoring "Iraqi, pan-Arabic, international and U.S. national and regional markets media in both Arabic and English." That includes broadcast and cable television outlets, the Pentagon channel, two wire services and three major U.S. newspapers: The Washington Post, New York Times and Los Angeles Times.

Monitors are to select stories that deal with specific issues, such as security, reconstruction activities, "high profile" coalition force activities and events in which Iraqi security forces are "in the lead." The monitors are to analyze stories to determine the "dissemination of key themes and messages" along with whether the "tone" is positive, neutral or negative.

The media outlets would be monitored for how they present coalition or anti-Iraqi force operations. That part of the proposal could reflect Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's often-stated concern that the media does not cover positive aspects of Iraq.

In a speech before the American Legion on Tuesday, Rumsfeld said that a search of leading newspapers revealed that a soldier punished for misconduct was written about "10 times" as often as the first recipient of the Medal of Honor in anti-terrorism efforts.

The proposal suggests a team of 12 to 18 people who would provide support for the coalition military command as well as the Iraqi government leadership.

Prospective contractors are also asked to propose four to eight public relations events per month, such as speeches or news conferences, including "preparation of likely questions and suggested answers, themes and messages as well as background, talking points."

An attempt yesterday to reach the contracting officer for this project was not successful. Bids are due Sept. 6, and the 24-month contract is scheduled to begin on Oct. 28.

The Rendon Group, which has represented organizations such as the Iraqi National Congress, currently holds a much smaller year-to-year contract with the military command in Iraq. That contract includes creating an Arabic version of the command's Web site, http://www.mnf-iraq.com
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Will there be a world war III?
Posted: 8/31/2006 2:53:07 PM
If there is a WWIII, it'll be the World v. America. Sad but very true. If it happens, Bush will get his wish----the end of days.

As American's you have to fight for your peace and your right to free speech and assembly. Right now, more than anything the world needs American students protesting on campuses. The world needs student strikes. The world needs another Ohio State incident. It could mean the difference between America surviving or America being destroyed by itself.

Just an opinion, nothing more.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Sources say Bush negotiated with terrorists. Or were they on the Whitehose payroll to begin with?
Posted: 8/31/2006 2:37:24 PM
Report: U.S. Secretly Negotiated with Gaza Kidnappers


The U.S. secretly agreed to the "real demands" set by the group behind the August 14 kidnapping of two Fox News journalists in Gaza, according to a report in the pan-Arab newspaper al Hayat.

The paper quotes "informed sources close to the mediations" as saying that the U.S. secretly negotiated with the group through leaders of "the Palestinian popular resistance committees."

Last week, the previously unknown group calling itself "The Holy Jihad Brigades" issued a statement demanding the release of all Muslims held in U.S. prisons in return for the release of the two journalists. In fact, the paper reports that the public demand was not serious and that the group's "real demands" were that the U.S. press Israel to reopen the Rafah border crossing between Egypt and Palestine and cease the shelling of "Palestinian activists'" residences.

According to the report, the mediators contacted a representative of a European country who in turn contacted U.S. and British diplomats. The paper's sources said in the report that members of a senior FBI delegation, who had arrived in the area a few days earlier, were also involved in the negotiations.

The announcement that the two journalists had converted to Islam as a reason for their release was only a camouflage to conceal the fact that the U.S. had agreed to the hostage-takers' demands, according to the sources cited in the article. A few days ago the Rafah crossing was reopened for a few hours daily, and the Israeli forces stopped shelling residences of activists in the past few days, noted the paper's sources.

When asked for a response by ABCNews.com, a State Department spokesperson refused to comment on the report in al Hayat. The department's stated policy has been that the United States does not negotiate with terrorists.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Keith Olberman Savages Rummy, Bush and Cheney. This is a Patriot!
Posted: 8/31/2006 2:33:28 PM
Nevertheless, opinions laden with historical fact are quite often right.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Keith Olberman Savages Rummy, Bush and Cheney. This is a Patriot!
Posted: 8/31/2006 2:19:48 PM
Finally, someone in the media gets it right!

How long before the neo-cons start demonizing Olberman, now?



http://movies.crooksandliars.com/OlbermannBlastsRumsfeldOnFacism.mov
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 35 (view)
 
THE BIG LIE: ISLAMO FASCISM *sigh* more of the same...
Posted: 8/31/2006 10:01:34 AM
@Always Smiling

Remeber when you and I first had a debate? Remember what I said about my posting. Remember what I said it was intended to do? Remember how much people thought I was just a "hater" of America and everything it stands for?

Isn't this guy KNOBBER exactly the guy I was talking about? LMAO

BTW----- did you watch Anthony Bourdain in Beirut last night? He was there when the fighting began. What a beautiful place it was up until August.

AND

Don't forget... CBC on September 10th. Two original Canadian documentaries on the bull$hit of 9/11. Be sure to watch. They'll be excellent.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/31/2006 9:51:53 AM
@Denis495

Canada has all the things Hitler loved? Are you high?!

We have a higher standard of living than most other countries. We have literacy rate that dwarfs many others. Our infant mortality rate in comparison to the US is almost non existent and the average family income sure as hell isn't that bad.

Hitler liked roads I assume. We have lots of long ones that require maintenance... That takes money. We have medicare and if you think medicare is frivolous than you're just supremely ignorant. We have 30 million people and were in majoe debt. How do you explain paying down debt, running deficit free and still maintaining our social programs? I call it responsible government.

If you were 500,000 dollars in debt would you try to pay it off with your credit card by making the minimum payment each month or would you try to pay it down as fast as possible using whatever means necessary? I want Canada debt free. I want my taxes to remain as they have remained since the Mulroney era. Untouched.

He controls the oil, the gas and the diamonds... And he who is debt free while doing it; rules the world.

Don't kid yourself, America will do all she can to break our banks and our spirits in order to gain our country. The only thing that will save us is the fact that Canadian's own almost all of America's largest and most profitable banks.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 20 (view)
 
THE BIG LIE: ISLAMO FASCISM *sigh* more of the same...
Posted: 8/30/2006 3:11:39 PM
Let's go over this again shall we?

I know perfectly well what my posts are designed to do and so do many others. I twitch the bait and I find a fish like you. Invariably, men like you take the bait yet no one knows why.

Did you catch what you just said?
"So harsh words are the cause and a justification for 9/11 according to you? You are actually defending people who kill others because they don't like what they say?"

I think you Americans did that same thing to Aristide, Castro, Chavez, Khomeini, Hussein, Abe Lincoln.. Didn't ya? Look in the mirror, pal. America was doing it long before anyone else was. LMAO

Umm... Can you name me some European welfare states? I'd like to know who you're talking about so we can compare apples to apples. Because most people see American in relation to 1933 Germany. You should really get out more.

Ummm.... The war itself IS a crime. Ask anyone in Europe or the UN.

What you fail to realize is that you believe that AMerica has a "culture." What you believe is "culture" is really nothing more than a passing "fad." There are countries that have been around for thousands of years and have been practising politics for the same amount of time. Why should we or the world hold America in ANY regard when they refuse to listen or learn from historically significant nations.

Go to Germany and ask a German about America today, or Great Britain... (Actually, don't go to great Britain... American's are hated there right now.) Go to Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Luxembourg, Russia... Do you think world opinion doesn't exist or matter? Most of the world says: America are acting illegally. The only people who don't believe that are..........Americans.

I find that so funny.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Pizza magnate is building Catholic city in Florida
Posted: 8/30/2006 2:53:00 PM
Dude... The note left was in perfectly good taste. The tone that I wrote with in response to the knucklehead wasn't.

While I don't remember everything... It began with: "I just want to tell you how sorry I am that you have to suffer as an American in this time of your most corrupt government in history."

It ended with something like: go home and start a revolution. You need one.

Look, man. We all have a calling in life and right now I relish telling ALL Americans I meet that their nation makes Castro's Cuba look progressive. I have a right to free speech in Canada and I choose to excersise it and I have no intention of inciting hate. Only of inciting "thought."

I appreciate your position but we'll have to disagree.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/30/2006 2:18:05 PM
Here's my question to you Mr. Fish...

If Canada is so sad and pathetic and you dislike the tax system and kknowing that you lived all over the world... Why did you choose to live in Canada of all the "better" nations you could have gone to.

Your reasons for not living someplace else interest me.... Or are you merely here for a free ride? You confuse me. If it's so sad and pathetic here and America is so much better, why not live there?

I ask merely for information.

And THAT was not getting spanked. It was a good post. But not a spanking.

Lemme guess Mr. Fish.... You're probably a subscriber to The National Citizens Coalition newsletter, aren't you? Once again... I ask merely for information.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
THE BIG LIE: ISLAMO FASCISM *sigh* more of the same...
Posted: 8/30/2006 2:08:53 PM
No, bin Laden can't do it. But just like Malcolm X, dr. King, Abe Lincoln and many others....

America assasinates those that try to make it a progressive nation and that IS pathetic.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Pizza magnate is building Catholic city in Florida
Posted: 8/30/2006 2:02:05 PM
Uh, hey Paul....

Maybe you should read OUR "Charter of Rights and Freedoms." Even our country recognizes the supremacy of God.

I know you have less than a "passing knowledge" of Canada but here's a lesson. Our last PM was a Catholic and not once disputed the right of same sex marriage. Our constitution was written by another Catholic.

What does a militant Islamist have to do with me shoving a Pershing Missile up the ass of Jesus, or wishing that Jesus would just piss all over your President's mother?

Your constitution also says: Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It even mentions free speech. It mentions law. You are a lawlwss society full of killers and madmen. And don't give me this crap about "my friends, the militant Islamists" What the hell is that. It's no worse than belligerent Americans who act militantly by financing coups in Haiti and refusing to have Saddam tried at the Hague.

You are so grossly full of American bravado that it's absolutely hilarious.

You know what I did today, Paul?

I left a note on the window of a car with New York plates and told them that your president is a murderer, that your nation deserves punishment and embargos and sanctions. I told them that "America is nothing more than a sad and pathetic self important nation that no one gives a damn about." I told them that if they're truly American patriots that they have a duty to revolution because Americans have "forgotten what their nation is supposed to be and what it was founded on."

Was the note an attack? No.

Did I insult them personally? No.

Do I care what you think? No.

Do I believe that you are better informed than myself? No.

Do I believe that you've ever travelled Europe with an American flag on your chest? No.

Do I think you would bother to know anything about any other nation other than your own? No.

Do I think you or your government is smarter than me or mine? No.

Do I think you know that I was actually a Conservative? No.

Do I expect that you care? Of course not. You're an American.

Now see if you can possibly stick another chicken wing in your mouth and keep chewing. The less people like you are heard the better the world will be.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/30/2006 9:10:45 AM
What are you talking about.

Canada isn't a socialist nation. We're a parliamentary democracy.

Sheesh.... If you don't know what Canada is maybe you should learn before you speak so foolishly.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 16 (view)
 
THE BIG LIE: ISLAMO FASCISM *sigh* more of the same...
Posted: 8/30/2006 7:04:16 AM
Did you know that the author of the article is a repuglican? Did you know that the author of the article is a decorated vietnam vet?

I can see far more than your tobacco chewing nazi eyes can see. It's sad. American's like you are the reason for 9/11. Harsh words... but oh so true.

No listening. No debate. Just adhominem attacks by uneducated boers. You can't diprove the article that's for sure.

It's like the N-WORD. American whites invented the word and now when black people say it you all freak out. It's an invention. There is NO SUCH THING as Islamo Fascism. It's a beautiful ploy by the Bush Nazi's and your buddies in Washington. Maybe you should look up fascism and you'll see modern America defined. Bush is trying to deflect the fascist accusation away from himself. (Too late.)

As I said... All the white house staffers and every US and Brit soldier in Iraq that ever fired a shot should be gassed as war criminals.

Once again America has lemmings like you believing that whatever comes out of Bushes mouth isn't merely Mr. Cheney's penis.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/30/2006 6:52:53 AM
I'd love to use the "love it or leave it" argument on you but that would make it too easy.

Our fantastic standard of living is not due to the AMERICAN'S. If you consider a coalition of shopping malls like Wal-Mart---lowering our purchasing standards----progress. Yopu're mis informed and blind. McDonalds.... There's progress, eh. How about Home Despot? Nothing quite beats American companies coming up here and destroying small family owned businesses and the lives of millions. See how you feel when Wal-Mart and it's lobbyists start trying to lower minimum wage to the same American levels.

Canadais a country that you obviously know little or nothing about yet you live here for some strange reason. America and Canada DON'T trade in ANYTHING that we don't really need. We trade oil, wheat, oil... Do you honmestly believe that we couldn';t trade that with ANYONE else in the world?! You're a confused misled and very foolish man if you think we NEED America for anything.

As far as NEVER sticking our necks out... Where was America in WWII? They weren't fighting for the Allies until half of Europe was decimated and millions of Canadian's were killed. WE were sticking our necks out LONG befor America knew what it meant to fight for freedom.

As for your foolish statement about no one listening to us. Do you even know who Mike Pearson was?! Ever heard of the SUEZ CANAL? Ever wonder how that whole thing was brought under control? It was because of good management and fresh Canadian ideas. It was Canada. No one listens to us? Ever heard of a Blackberry? Imagine if we refused to allow that technology out of Canada.... Imagine if we legislated that it was "just for us." Where would have America been on 9/11? No one listens and we're second rate?! Tell that to the people who opened their homes to Americans during 9/11. Better yet tell that to an American who was taken in and then tell me how his shoe tastes. No one listens? How about the world... We bail on Kyoto under Harper and nations around the world are going: "WTF?! We thought you were leaders." Clinton and Blair wanted to improve medicare and social programs and who did they both come to as their main advisor? You guessed it... Canada.

Canada is a world leader. We're certainly no pimple on America's ass but we certainly are blemish on their face because as Lewis Lapham once said: "Canada is the only thing that keeps America sane. America needs Canada."

The thing about your statement: "pimple on the ass of American consiouceness" is that their is NO LONGER an American conciousness.

Canadians... True Canadians. Canadians born here and raised here and whose parents had to escape post war Europe know that Canada is the coolest place in the world to live. Too bad you don't. Too bad you don't want to realize that you're children have a doctor at their disposal. Too bad you don't have to pay for chemo therapy. Too bad you don't have to live with a broken leg because you can't afford to get it fixed. You complain. You insult. This is a country that gives EVERYONE opportunity. This is a country that thrives on debvate and disagreement. This is a country that most of all thrives on conflict resolution. And we're damn good at it.

I don't want people to "pay attention" to us. That's what would make us Americans---wanting attention. We don't need it. We have the gas, we have the water, we have the diamonds, we have the medicare, we have the social programs we have zero deficit, we're the only nation in the G8 that has been able to pay down its debt and you insist we're a non-player. I can assure you, my misguided, unaware, fiscally deaf friend that EVERYONE is paying attention to us based on the fact that we're able to remain fiscally responsible while no one else in the world can. And I'll tell you something else...

It burns Bush and his band of madmen that a (Liberal) nation can out perform America on every level. They hate it. We're technologically better, we're socially better, we're more tolerant, we're not reactionary, we're not a mistake ridden nation. Our government runs better. Our government is far more accountable... We're just better. Remember that the next time your in an airport and you get pulled to the side and sent to Syria for torture by the Americans. Remember that when your children need surgery. Remember that when you get shot at in New York, Washington or Florida. I dare you to walk the streets of America's capitol at night without health insurance and kevlar.

Get a grip my sad friend. You know nothing and you're buying into the American spin on Canada. Such a fool. Such a fool.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Pizza magnate is building Catholic city in Florida
Posted: 8/30/2006 6:03:59 AM
If I was wealthy... Just to stick it to the prick----- I'd buy the whole town and give it away free to Muslims. Nothing beats pissing a Cathoilic off. My Uncle (Father Domenic) is a blast to abuse.

What I'd really like to do is dress up that 900 foot Jesus in drag and shove a Pershing Missle up it's ass like a big dildo. Either that or attach a fountain to Jesus' penis and have it piss all over Barbra Buish for giving birth to such a bonehead like her son George. Or better yet... Install a waving arm that showers those at the base of Jesus' balls with birth control pills, condoms and RU486 tablets.

Wait... I can come up with more. I know I can
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 14 (view)
 
THE BIG LIE: ISLAMO FASCISM *sigh* more of the same...
Posted: 8/29/2006 11:16:16 PM
@knopper

I didn't write article. I just posted it. Why is my head in the sand and not yours?
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 93 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 11:10:17 PM
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

No.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/29/2006 11:07:31 PM
Okay... Supposing you're right.

When was the last time you were in the hospital? What was YOUR last procedure? I had no trouble. My friend has a kid with Down Syndrome he has nothing but praise. My best friend was just diagnosed with non-Hogkins Lymphoma---it's pretty ugly---he was in for treatment within four days of them finding the tumour. My ex girlfriend had lymphatic cancer as well... She was in the same day.

My good friend is now a regional coroner just outside of Toronto. She worked at Duke Medical Centere in the States. You know why she came home----it certainly wasn't the money... She said we had a better medical system.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 91 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 11:02:11 PM
I can respect you dude. Do you honestly believe that I would have let this go on this long if I didn't?

But respecting you and respecting your country are two entirely different animals. I cannot in good word or deed respect your country unless the true criminals are tried at The Hague.

I'm sorry. I just can't. Milosovic, Hussein... They're petty thieves compared to your administration and as Americans you WILL NEVER let these men go to trial based on the basic cowardice and foolish pride.

Understand that I don't care if you disrespect Canada or Canadians or our government with good reason. But when it comes to the states... I have "reason" basen of "fact" not to respect your nation it's actions or it's military. It's my duty as a citizen of the planet and especially of North America.

Let's face it, if Bush were kidnapped after his final term and sent to The Hague America would bomb all of Europe to get him back. Why?
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 89 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 10:52:02 PM
@strangebloom

I was wrong. You still don't get it. *sigh*

I have a duty to lump you all together. It forces you and people like you and people far worse than I might find you to be---to look, listen, defend and finally attack.

The point is that in every argument I've ever had with you or any other defender of your nation they ultimately follow those criteria. You "looked" at my posts. You "listened" to my criticism. You "defended" your nation. Then you "attacked." I'm FINE with that. You followed the same pattern that every other person has followed when dealing with me.

Why can't your nation. Your government. Your people---- realize that to attack is the LAST option. America today---"ATTACKS" first. "DEFENDS" (it's actions) second. "LOOKS"(at the mess) third and finally... "LISTENS" to no one.

Hitler and the Nazi's were known as "Germans." An entire nation were painted as scum.

Bush and the Republicans are known ONLY as "Americans." You know where this is going.

(I am getting tired of arguing though. You said you were going to leave me alone. That was three days ago. Get some sleep man. You have far more worthy fish to fry than me. I think we'll remain in perpetual disagreement and I'm okay with that.)
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 87 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 10:41:02 PM
Unfortunately some such as myself associate your government with your people because that's just how it's done. People didn't associate the German people with Hitler, all you were told was that "The Germans" were the enemy. As were "the japs." As were "the gooks." I mean, when has your nation EVER identified a government as being the problem. Your governments have traditionally focussed your hatred on nation, ethnicity, or ideaology but you preface all your attacks as---The Iraqi's. The Lebanese. The Syrians. The Koreans.

What are we supposed to do? You get as good as you give. Forcing people to look in the mirror is a dubious responsibility, but one that I'll take.

I don't think most Canadian's care whether or not American's are ignorant of Canada. We're the second largest nation on earth by land mass. I don't particularly want American's knowing anything about the most beautiful country on the planet and the worlds coolest place to live. I'd prefer they stay in America. We already have suffered "American influence" in media and things of the like. I really don't want to suffer sharing my country with the everyday American, the NRA, Nascar and the KKK.

To be fair, I don't think most Canadians envy America either. I think most of would rather live here than in the states where there's horrible poverty and distress and no medicare and guns and crime and Nationalism and authoritarianism. There's also your style of democracy that tends not to appeal to the average Canadian. I don't personally like the Presidential system. I don't like an elected Senate. I think Congress is required but without your leader on the floor to face scrutiny over his actions it's "ball-less."

At least our Prime Minister and the Brit PM are forced to face his opposition. Bush just sits in his office and farts. I just don't get how he can be so detached and unwilling to face his opposition. That's the problem in America. You've forgotten what politicians are supposed to do.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/29/2006 10:27:42 PM
@c.taylor.

I don't know what the stats are but I'll tell you this: I am seeing more American liscence plates on our streets than ever before and I'm having a field day telling them all what I think of their country and their government.

I've noticed that y'all ain't that tough on your own. You tend not to say much when you're actually not permitted to carry a gun. I'm enjoying that we can help your countrymen learn civility. Just stay out of out hospitals. You don't deserve medicare. It belongs to us. Pay your insurance.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Ahmadinejad challenges Bush to TV debate
Posted: 8/29/2006 10:22:08 PM
Maybe Bush would do well. I mean, he doesn't speak English. maybe he'll do better with Persian.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 84 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 10:16:35 PM
Congratulations. NOW, YOU GET IT!!

We can both move on. It's about damn time, too.

Oh, and I never bad mouthed your citizens. You're nation acts under the flag and with that comes the scrutiny of your actions as a nation and as people.

Americans. America. Whatever you want to call yourselves... I didn't EVER personally attack you. I attacked the actions of your nation and your nations actions are being carried out by your nations people.

Hitler acted on behalf of Germany. Bush has killed people in YOUR name not in his. That's the whole point of categorizing your populace in the same way that you categorize Iraqi's and Afghanis and Lebanese and Haitian and North Koreans and , and, and...

 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 77 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 2:23:18 PM
I'm still smarter, funnier and far more attractive than you.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Study shows 1 in 8 Americans are living in poverty...
Posted: 8/29/2006 2:20:38 PM
The last time poverty in the US went down was the last year Bill Clinton was in power. No big surprise I suppose.

I think that Canada needs to build a fence between our two nations to stop those Americans looking for a better life away from us. It would be like poison for our economy. Then again, I suppose we could get all the illegal American immigrants to work as housekeepers and landscapers... The jobs that most Canadians won't do.

I love laughing at America.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060829/ts_nm/life_usa_poverty_dc
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 75 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 2:11:18 PM
Trust me, Canadian's aren't worried about US ownership of companies. Traditionally Canadian's are an R & D nation. We build it. It makes the world a little better and then we sell the technology and re-invest in our next creation. We're all tech. There was a great book written on Canadian inventions and creations "that no one ever heard of." (Meaning that no one knows that WE invented them.

And on the same topic... America can own as many Canadian companies as they want. We own nearly ALL your biggest banks. LMAO!!!!!

He who controls the cash, the oil, the water and the diamonds... Controls the world.

We know where we stand. Canadian's aren't stupid. We won't get burned by anyone other than our current government.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 73 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 2:01:02 PM
Thanks Mike. I appreciate EVEYTHING you just put on the table.

I could not agree more that more American kids should come to Canada to learn. It would be so beneficial to your country. Hopefully once the University of the United nations is built in Toronto, we as Canadians will be able to encourage others to fall into the same line of common sense and peace that even our conservatives value more than merely money. (When I say conservatives, I mean the populace not the neo-con garbage we currently have in Ottawa.)

(Do me a favour would ya? I need to get some info and I was trying to email you but couldn't because of some settings that blocked me from contatcing you. It's pretty interesting and shouldn;'t take up too much of your time.) Thx.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 71 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 1:26:41 PM
I love this... You're not making a point about anything.

America is a mess. You're governement is corrupt and every serviceman whomever fires a shot in Iraq deserves the gas chamber. Now... What's you're point? You say "they don't." You feel that they're heros. Okay. It doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

What's another word for hero? Martyr.

What's the difference between a martyr and a hero? Nothing if they're both dead.

Name the worlds most infamous heros? Hitler. Mao. Kim Jong Il. Saddam Hussein. Castro.
Caesar. Pontius Pilate. Shall I go on? Okay, I will. George Bush THINKS he's a hero.

That's where the American's fit in. You guys and your soldiers and your government and your electorate are EVERY hero I mentioned. Reagan shot down a passenger jet in retaliation for
the Soviet Union downing a Korean Jetliner which was FACTUALLY spying on the Soviet Union and then called yourselves heros.

You invaded Canada in 1812 and Thomas Jefferson insisted that you would be greeted with flowers as liberators and heros. (You were of course dismissed in short order.) You invaded Grenada. You installed Noriega and then enacted a war to oust him. You initiated a coup against Aristide in Haiti and kidnapped the leader of a freely elected government in a free country. You allied with Musharef---a dictator of the highest order---and then gave his enemy jets and delivery system for nukes. It's endless. You're corruption as a nation is beyond any comparison. Even the Nazi's behaved better and more honourably than the Americans have.

You're nationalists, authoritarians and genocidal murderers. That point cannot be disputed. Perhaps you should read a book called OTHER LOSSES (which was of course banned in the US because it provided proof of American concentration camps that were in existence throughout WWII.)

Look at it this way... You don't DEFEND anyone, least of all my country. Ya see, what you don't realize is that NO ONE is OUR enemy. The only people with enemies are those that deal with you in weapons trade and war. That's not Canada.

I'll defend my country against every American mistake, mistep and every murdering piece of crap in a uniform. Once again... It's my perogative and my right as dictated by MY CONSTITUTION in MY COUNTRY. I wouldn't wipe my dogs ass with your Bill of Rights or the US Constitution. It's not fit to be read. I'd call it pornography but pornography is much more sanitary. I wouldn't want to insult a "legitimate" business model.

Any sacred document that can be circumvented by any government so easily has outlived it's usefulness and it's value. It's not fit to line a bird cage.

And why are you still talking to me? I thought you gave up. You said you were "done." Instead, you're merely wasting time cutting and pasting statements. Please try and have an original thought and stop rehashing the same things over and over again. You sound like my ex girlfriend excpet you look like you have nicer tits.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
THE BIG LIE: ISLAMO FASCISM *sigh* more of the same...
Posted: 8/29/2006 1:03:36 PM
@ Paul K:

I don;t think anyone disagrees that there are extremists out there but what I'd like is an answer to the following question.

Assuming that Isalmo-fascisim exists. Who then is responsible for the Ameri-Christian-Fascists in charge of the worlds most powerful government?

By the very definition of "fascism," America has graduated to the same level as ANY extremist. The difference quite simply is that: The ISalamo-Fascists ARE NOT governments. They are seperate extremists and as any Mid-East government will confirm are not a welcomed entity.

America has nukes and an Ameri-Christian-Fascist leader. Your country is clearly more dangerous. Sad, but true in the "grand scheme" of Bush et al.

@Always Smiling
You and I haven't debated a point in quite sometime. Probably because I've come to realize that with exception to your choice for Prime Minister. I think we both realize that we're both Conservatives, (except for the fact that I'm an "old Style conservative" in the Progressive Conservative sense and you're not.)

We don't differ entirely. Only our methods and vocality of opinion are different. Thanks for the words on the post.

SEE THAT EVERBODY! I KNOW HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME ABOUT EVERYTHING BUT "HE GETS IT."


Oh, and by the way kids... In case you're wondering... America supplied the "test reactor" to Iran years ago. Once again you're government placed their own penis in their own ass. Sometimes a big knob isn't all there is to life. It's about quality, not quantity after all.

America has lots a nuts but today they're merely fondling themselves while the rest of watch them prematurely ejaculate all over their own citizens and the rest of the world. Somebody pass them a tissue before GWB decides to use his sock to clean up.
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 68 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/29/2006 7:34:02 AM
@strangebloom

"I should accept the consequence of not helping them (Americans)"

What consequences? Are you saying that Canada should be imprisoned because we wouldn't go and committ genocide along with people like you? LMAO You're so misguided. So ill informed. So brainwashed. So indoctrinated that it's laughable.

No American EVER did $hit for me or my country. Not one. So get off your horse and understand where you live and who you are.

I live in Canada, the country above America and you and your countrymen will ALWAYS remain beneath us both geographically, intellectually and politically. If you think I'm an ass that's fine. But ultimately you're the contemptable fool chasing my posts. I'm just obliging you and having some sport with one who just isn't informed enough to know any better.

You American soldiers are so cute. At least we have a grade 12 requirement for our soldiers. You guys might want to try it. Maybe you could raise the average IQ of the American Military to 7. (But you'll lose another 8 for the Commander in Chief.)
 Algernon Moncrieff
Joined: 4/15/2006
Msg: 64 (view)
 
With the army desperate for recruits, should college students be packing their bags for Canada?
Posted: 8/28/2006 2:39:40 PM
And Canadians will take "smart young American's" over the alternative ANY day of the week.

All objectors are welcome in my house.
 
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