Free will is what counts.
The Bible is magnificent in so much of both the O.T. and N.T. Not many come close to the wisdom and infallibilty of the Bible's many profound and pungent quotes.
God is NOT your mommy or daddy. At all. Free will ultimately define what vision of God you choose to create. You cannot change anybody....and you will never in any evolutionary sense change the money mongerers, the power mongerers and the ultimately cynical and barren. You can only honour the quest for wisdom. As Aristotle said at the end of his life..."it is all like straw in my lap." Life is finally a creation of your personal vision of what is infallible. And that may involve....God. Yikes, here comes the opposition.

Is the failed relationship and the broken heart that comes with it merely just another necessary rite of passage on our way to wisdom, maturity, enlightenment, joy?

The only thing FB is REALLY good for, is when you're completely done with your ex, you have a place to post all her nude/active sex photos on, for her kids to see!

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Yes. We are definitely agreed on that. Are we agreed that anyone we would consider decent would necessarily be drawn from the pool of ebulliently interested?

Another thing about Christian Carter... He excels in giving good advice about how to engage a certain kind of man.

If she wasn't forcing herself on you after 20 minutes then you had no business going there.

Are you kidding me?? From the stuff that I have been reading from let's say Christian Carter the "Mr. Relationship Guru" He says that woman cannot pursue the man because men get turned off, it's the "Man who must do the hunting".. or is "Mr. Relationship Guru" wrong about this?

I'm not the one who moves Heaven on earth to get the man she want's (but I would like to) but if I really like the guy I'm cautious as not to scare them away. And I've been very careful and I still scare them away lol! So how should we woman act towards a man if we do like them? I'm now one very confused lady... LOL! They say give them space,, oh I give them space, they say don't mention anything about commitment, "mum's the word! Commitment?? Never heard of it. Then they slowly disappear,, and then after a month or two they re-appear again?? What the?? Either I'm confused or they're totally confused

Some of the flakes can put on a great act.

merelymortal: The two examples I brought up were only merely two examples of an array of personalities out there. By no means does it mean a guy has to only be either or of the two.

*Disclaimer: To discern a genuine woman from an un-genuine woman (you know, one who may only want to use you for a couple night stands or any other material and/or emotional possesssion of yours) -- You will have to actually use your noggin here and do not blissfully brush off any red flag signs that may and will come back to haunt you.

Tell me: How attractive do you find women who get burned and complain and whine about how "all men are jerks" or "all men are cheating **stards" , blah blah blah ..... Just ask yourself that and you will know how women feel about men who whine & complain about "women wanting a-holes over the nice guy" .

women really need to grow up and change their ways of thinking. that kind of thnking is why they do only attract idiots that go and cheat on them with their best friends.

Because all self-professed "nice guys" come off as weird and needy. "Nice guy" is not even a quality as much as a euphemism for "low self-confidence." Don't believe me ... Has any woman in her profile ever said, "Looking for "nice guy?" Thereefore the proverbial NG is only going to attract women with lower self-confidence than himself ... which is not exactly going to equal "decent girlfriend."

Take the hint - he doesn't want to talk to you. It doesn't matter why, or when. You simply need to accept the fact that he doesn't want any contact, and accept that.

Your relationship is over, and you need to let go. It sounds like you haven't really moved on or forgiven your ex, which is important.

If you want closure, try something like writing a goodbye letter with everything you want to say to him - and then burning it. However, don't send the letter - let go and move on.

PS. Apologies if that was a little too blunt. Good luck with it all.

So why would a XY chromosome (Y being less information) carry the information for nipples?

So after 125 pages it still comes down to an issue of faith.

On the contrary, people are willfully ignorant when it suits their purpose. In the U.S., politicians invoke chritianity all the time to treat non-christians in a perjorative fashion even though people in the U.S. have no real excuse whatsoever for being so ignorant as to fear muslims or athiests or whatever.

The "liberal democratic society" has not neutered religion, but rather protected all religions from any dominant pushy one that wishes to establish a fascist Theocratic state as we've seen too much of in the past and present. It's no small wonder people look at you odd when you "talk religion". Religions have their places. Freedom of religion also comes with the freedom from religion. Makes everyone happy but the Theocrats du jour who can't get their way.

While I agree that religious texts can lead to a respectable level of morality, most "religious" people I have known are cafeteria Christians who either focus on the new Testament and the actual teachings of Christ, or the olde testament types who wish for a return to Theocracy, all that stoning and smiting, homo-hating, pagan burning, good old days. There's some in between, but the olde testamentalists seem to dominate the screaming matches these days.

There's the debate between stewarship and dominion in that divide too, where the olde testament types focus on chewing up the earth ASAP because the rapture is coming soon anyway, and the new testament types tend to focus on creation care, and equity for generations to come. I see a helluva lot morality from Christ Christians and pagans than I do from fundies.

So what if we are animals? And we really are, at the most fundamental levels. But then, so are cats, dogs, fishes, bugs and bacteria. And they get along quite well without existential angst. The only difference is that we have the capacity to think "I think, therefore I'm special in the universe." Why should life have any more intrinsic value than that it exists. More on this in a second, however...

Why 'cowardly?' As animals in a social group, we have to get along. The problem in any social group arises when someone isn't being cooperative. The ape that hordes the fruit that it finds without sharing usually ends up shunned by the group and ultimately ends up having a tougher time surviving without the support of its troupe.

Actually, that is demonstrably incorrect. The idea of a "God" creating human beings has the support of more than half the population of the U.S.

Science isn't required to offer "meaning" to anything.

Scientist: We have to find more sustainable ways to use what few resources we have so that we can maintain a balance with our resources and our means of production.

Religious right: Global warming is a scam. God created the Earth for us to utilize as we want.

Do you really want to put more value on religion?

As for civilization in moral crisis...please tell me a time when it wasn't.

When people create or buy into gods and religions, there is no end to the cruelty and viciousness that can be justified. It's in the Bible after all.

A sincere burning desire for the search for truth - or so I hope.

Man is knower, but also a believer, and once the believer in man dies, there is nothing left but the sincere search for the truth.

Please feel free, with as few equivocations and prevarications as possible, to demonstrate how this is true.

Science does not remove anyone's basic requirement to be good to their fellow human being.

Indeed, science has shown that what we term "morality" actually has an evolutionary basis in group behaviours seen in several species.

Indeed, some of the worst crimes against humanity have been performed in the name of "God."

I have no emotional investment in her believing or disbelieving in God since I'm basically agnostic, myself. However, I think it's fair to say that I'm looking for a particular thought process behind the decision, as opposed to the decision itself, as a gauge to understanding the person she is and how she thinks.