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Thread: I had a relationship with someone who was a muslim
nicktomlinrhys
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I had a relationship with someone who was a muslim
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11/13/2009 10:26:49 AM
But ye know wot, the left who apologize for this religion is the same as them getting into bed with nazis, and if ye think I am wrong, take a look at racist bigoted Haj Amin al- Husseini who collaborated and called for the extermination of the jews in wartime Berlin and his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as Yasser Arafat who took over his racist bigoted "mission".
Lord Haw Haw comes to mind .The Mitfords.Mosely ....and our current so called "patriot" who thinks Churchill was a war criminal for the bombing of Dresden and praises the Waffen SS as brave men.Disputes the numbers of Jews killed but not the killings.
This same christian,anglo-saxon "patriots" deems the Coventry blitz as justified and goes on to use Churchills face on his posters........
Why does he excuse the Nazis while claiming to be a patriot..........
Every reason to think thats a traitor and those who sleep with traitors know no reason.
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I had a relationship with someone who was a muslim
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11/13/2009 10:01:53 AM
@desert star
The only reason I say lets ban headgear or any religious symbols is not because I feel that way.I am not religious at all.I say that because we in Britain are in danger of been led by the nose in waters unseen by people passing themselves off as patriots .We need to eliminate any such cause for excuse and thats one of them .I would ask the Islamic community to co-operate.But we as a nation are being indoctrinated and programmed against muslims in a big way so its not even right any more .
Like I said.....those single mothers of kids by multiple partners are legion.They are a huge segement of our population and in most cases they bag council housing and flats.Their situation means that they need benefit and I wouldn't have it any other way...........
.....but my point is ....those women were badly treated by the men in their lives.Those kids have in most cases been abandoned .They rarely know who the father is but I would challenge anybody to say that muslim men even register on that statistic apart from in some minute number(and we have to say that to avoid error)....so how come going out with one muslim can cause so much stubboness but all those women don't blame those white guys or black guys who placed them in the single mothers bracket ? Do they avoid them ? No...in fact they repeat themselves over and over .
I know North Africans are muslim but they count as Arabs .The people I am talking about are from the accepted African bracket.That is the fastest growing ethnic group in the UK.The skilled workers are IT,doctors etc and usually from Asia,Europe or Austraila.They rarely need to uses any service because of their skill.I think its mindeless to make it harder for them yet let asylumseekers in.
My girlfriends mother is muslim from Malaysia.Her father is English and honestly I never heard them to have disagreements.
But ye know wot, the left who apologize for this religion is the same as them getting into bed with nazis, and if ye think I am wrong, take a look at racist bigoted Haj Amin al- Husseini who collaborated and called for the extermination of the jews in wartime Berlin and his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as Yasser Arafat who took over his racist bigoted "mission".
I seem to recall that a "christian" so called Anglo-Saxon leader of a "patriotic" British party aka NG has not disputed the holocasust took place but disagreed with the numbers .So does that make it alright if its 4 million instead of 6?
This same Anglo-Saxon "British patriot" thinks Churchill was a war criminal yet has no complusion in using his face on his posters .The very same guy believes the blitz on Coventry was justified.........yet he is christian,British and an Anglo Saxon.....worse...a so called PATRIOT !
Honestly, if it where white anglo saxon males who had the same views you lot who apologize for them Muslims, you would be screaming bloody blue murder, I note the complete silence from the feminists, the anti racist league type persons, and all the other "I am offended for you wether you are or not" brigades silence against the human rights abuses made in the name of this religion and it's people...
I think your leader is a traitor trying to pas himself off as a patriot .
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Brits are ugly and so say all of them............!
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11/13/2009 9:00:45 AM
I feel so ugly that I daren't post my pic now................lol
I like the Dutch or the olive skinned type of nations..........be they European or asian...
nicktomlinrhys
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I had a relationship with someone who was a muslim
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11/13/2009 8:57:51 AM
I think that Islam is radical and is kinda narrow but at the same time we as a nation are being "programmed" to place everything at their door.I prefer not to go on and on labouring a point but just consider this....
....all the women who won't date a muslim because of this or that.Its your right not to but you can't say that all the single mothers in this country are the result of anything to do with muslims .I say single mothers rather than divorced or widowed.There is a HUGE population of single mothers of children by multiple men and these take up housing and benefits. Address the personal level and it means that that woman was not able to stay with her man or was not able to keep him or was not able to tolerate him. So every way it means he was no good...................................yet you would be hard pressed to find a single mother put in that position by a muslim ,particularly not by a Asian or Middle Eastern variety.
The other issue is where someone stated that the muslim population has increased dramatically.The fastest growing ethnic group in this country is Africans . They are not immigrants.....they are asylumseekers .The immigrants are skilled from non EU countries or those from EU.Brown may cap skilled immigrants but they are not the ones using benefits .So the problem will remain.
I also think France has done a useful thing in banning all headgear.We should do that too.
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Brits are ugly and so say all of them............!
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11/12/2009 11:16:45 AM
Message: When you have a site of existing members voting who can be allowed to join you have a recipe for disaster and a total b!tch fest.
The brittle 'beautiful' people are not going to allow anyone more beautiful in are they? Guys will be voting for beautiful girls who are voted against by the existing girls and vice versa.
Actually...that could explain how it came about !
nicktomlinrhys
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Does Gordon Brown deserve such criticism over his miss spelt letter?
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11/12/2009 11:09:49 AM
Good of him to write it himself but he should get someone to check it if he knows he is a plonker at spelling or his brain can't remember names.
The mother is upset.Her son has died and the PM writes but mis-spells his name.
She should grieve but not this way.Our troops need all the equipment to fight a war properly so I think the MP's expenses,bankers bonuses and lottery good causes money would be better spent doing a job fully and then coming out of there .Too many soldiers have died and hundreds of thousands of Afghans.600,000 civilians when last I checked.Thats not good for them or us.
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Brits are ugly and so say all of them............!
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11/12/2009 11:04:14 AM
Brits are among the ugliest people in the world... according to an exclusive website which only allows 'beautiful' people to join.
Less than one in eight UK men (12 per cent) and just three in 20 women (15 per cent) who have applied to BeautifulPeople.com have been accepted as members.
Existing members of the website rate how attractive potential members are over a 48-hour provisional period, when applicants upload a recent photograph and a short personal profile.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226933/Brits-ugliest-people-world.html#ixzz0Wfo40RSh
Apparently its official ! We are ugly ! What do you think about that.Who do you think are generally an attractive nation..................and an ugly one?
Personally I think a good heart and attitude goes a long way but if we are being shallow then lets say what we think !
lol...don't take it personally......lets hear your views with a bit of humour thrown in ...
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Dating East Indian Men
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11/3/2009 1:58:15 AM
I never stated I wanted women to look after me first. I said it should be equal. Learn to read before acting like a douchebag. Your the insecure idiot who has nothing better to do than attack people for using common sense. How insecure do you have to be to think this makes you tough?
How would you what an Indian family is like? Families are diverse. But if the guys ever came first in a family wimpy worms like you would scream patriarchy.
Are you always so charming ? What charm school did you go to btw ?
I can see that you have major issues but you try to pass them on to others.
So you want me to read your email ? I did.Why not re-read your own response and ask yourself why YOU made the deduction that someone who is well treated by her own family would neccessarily mistreat a guy ?
You didn't read anything of that girls post yet you made massive assumptions didn't you.
I made assumptions based on what YOU said .
You come across as wanting to be treated special somehow and women maybe have kicked you to the kerb. Hows that for reading exactly what you wrote. My job comes in useful for many cases such as yours.
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Dating East Indian Men
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10/26/2009 8:31:18 AM
Its not digusting that women come first and are treated better. If a man wrote that the men in his family came first and that indian men have the upper hand in most familes and no ordinary women could compare to the woman who gave him everything first we would be saying that he is a douchebag and pig.
Oh really ? Maybe you are that "wimp" instead that wants all women to look after him first and foremost.I can look after myself since I am acturally an adult rather than a inmature windbag. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder and I wonder why that is.
That poster is talking about HER family and her life.Seems like she appreciates her family.That illustrates care.Caring family includes men and women in it.You don't know nothing about that individual apart from her saying that she is treated so well that she would like the same type of guy as she knows.Thats something for the people in her circle to be proud.End result seems that care is all around in that family .
Now normally its like they say Indian families mistreat girls....maybe thats what you wanted to hear and was disappointed ? Yet I know loads of Indian girls and guys treated just normal like everybody else.I rarely see or hear of Indian guys wanting to go out with white women if at all. All the guys I know are westernised and born over here .
You have personal issues of loathing or something ? Keep them to yourself.
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Dating East Indian Men
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10/25/2009 5:53:10 AM
This made me want to vomit. How disgusting.
And you see why so many indian men want to date outside the race? II don't blame them if so many indian women like you are nothing but spoiled princesses. you don't want an ordinary man. you want a prince right?
How cynical and over the top reaction !
What the heck ? I read the original post and your quote and all I saw was a girl talking about HER family and THEIR good treatment OF HER .Its nice to know that some girls appreciate their own loved ones.Its great to know some families like hers CARE.
Its wonderful to know that love is floating in the air be it family or of a couple......
She didn't say she wanted a prince or was looking for anybody.Certainly not you.
but yet that makes YOU VOMIT ? Your reaction was sick
Get a life mate.And grow up .
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what do you think of call centre workers (banks in particular)
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10/9/2009 11:42:13 AM
I am sick of call centres.I am sick of waiting in queues for hours it seems like and I get charged while I wait.Press hundreds of options to arrive at a real person.Get asked hundreds of questions to verify WHO I am.........and they take the hump personally if you complain . People do not use E-ON or countless others I can name.I hate the entire concept .
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Nazi Uniforms Racist ??
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10/9/2009 11:38:04 AM
Is this a reference to the grave found near Malbork last year? It contains the graves of more than a thousand Germans.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLE459966
"MALBORK, Poland, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Polish authorities have unearthed the remains of 1,800 bodies and expect to find even more in a mass grave first discovered three months ago and believed to date back to the final days of World War Two.
The site is in a corner of northern Poland that was part of Germany until 1945 and the authorities suspect the remains are of ethnic German civilians, at least some of whom were probably killed by advancing Soviet forces.
"We are dealing with a mass grave of civilians, probably of German origin. The presence of children... suggests they were civilians," Zbigniew Sawicki, a Polish archaeologist supervising the exhumation, told Reuters on Wednesday.
"It is very puzzling that no personal belongings have been found among the remains... We have few clues as to how these people died, though there is a high probability they were war victims," Sawicki added.
Some 30 bodies were found with gunshot wounds, though the probable cause of death for many was hunger and cold, he said."
""These people were buried in an appalling and inhuman manner," said Piotr Szwedowski, a Malbork city official."
Hmm.....so the Russians shoot their victims before burial?
That's what commie uniforms represent....of course, we are possibly talking about two different graves, but it wasn't just the Nazis who were capable of atrocit
Its always a shame when Germans are on the recieving end of what they doled out with barbarity.........................
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Sikh policeman sues force.
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10/9/2009 11:32:34 AM
do u know what muslims and other religions such as muslims seem to fly the race card at every little thing that goes wrong. If we lived in one of their countrys we would hve to live by their rules such as cover up, no alcohol so its about time they lived by our rules instead of making their own up. school kids arnt allowed to wear hoodies in school yet muslim girls can wear their head gear. its all wrong
So since when has "hoodies" been part of any religious group that we should feel so aggrieved ?
Remind me please which countries we went to and we lived by their rules ?
Tick one of these if you can......USA,NZ,OZ,SA,India..................???
More like we altered everything top to tale to create home from home....
...lol...not saying I agree with this business of the Sikh policeman.I haven't an opinion on that case.There's for and against but like somebody pointed out.....they wore this headgear in WW2 when approx 200,000 fought and died for Britain in every theater of war.
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Caucasian / European What are we?
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10/9/2009 11:26:26 AM
if it aint confusing..then were do the native american red indians fit into all this..? and the australian aboriginals..australia aint anywere near africa..and the people from india..? iv heard they are classed as caucasians and not mongloids...it all bamboozles me for sure...
I think people are getting confused with racial types (caucasian,mongolians and Africans )and geographical locations (European or Asian or African )
The Native Americans are from Asia originally and they look like Siberians so therefore they are mongoloid. The aboriginals of Oz are black like Africans .
The vast majority of Indians are caucasians.Yes caucasians.Certain elements are mixed with mongolian as in Chinese on the borders so then you get those racial groups .Further down south you have elements mixed with "tribals" as in aboriginals (Oz type) and thats another racial group but overall the vast majority are caucasian due to facial,hair and genetic history.Only the sun affects the shin tones but there is not much in it if compared to south east or southern Europeans .Europeans actually came from central Asia .
Why are the Germans called "Huns" when huns are an asiatic tribe and mongolian ?
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asian dudes
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9/23/2009 9:19:28 AM
So if big d i c k s are a measure of success in relationships it should follow that black men (according to stereotyping ) should be happy,contented and in stable relationships,followed closely by caucasians.....why is that not the case ??
In fact its the complete reverse......think about it.
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References and CV's
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9/13/2009 2:07:41 AM
A friend of mine has been sacked(fired).She lives in the USA.
How difficult would it be to get another job in America .
She was in the IT sector.
Do you require references and does the previous employer need to disclose the sack(fired)?
How many references are required for white collar jobs,generally?
I would like to help her as she is depressed .
Thank you.
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Labor Day: Does it mean anything to you?
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9/7/2009 9:10:56 AM
Someone may already have answered this one but is this "Labour Day weekend" a long weekend in real terms ? Did it include Friday,Saturday,Sunday and Monday ?
As in did people have these many days off as a whole ?
Thanks and no we do not have this.We did have august Bank Holiday the weekend before and that was a long weekend .
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Are there any working politically conservative nations?
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9/5/2009 1:18:10 AM
Ireland and Portugal have been transformed by eu subsidies
Every EU country has had subsidies not just Ireland and Portugal.
The only ones who didn't are the original founding members inasmuch they paid from the start for any subsidies.Italy has been subsidies to the hilt .
The thing with Ireland is that they joined much later but made faster progress than anybody else in Europe. Spain are way ahead than most,economically with a very conservative social culture in both.
Italy being part of the G8 doesn't really mean much.In real terms the UK,France and Germany are the leaders of the EU .The UK itself is not happy being part of the EU in any way,shape or form .We can't seem to accept being European at all !
There is affinity with Ireland,the places like Austraila and NZ but not Europe despite lots of Brits living in Spain .
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Are there any working politically conservative nations?
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9/4/2009 7:17:48 AM
Singapore is socially conservative and politically liberal .I was born there .Its a great place .Malaysia is pretty much the same and it works.
Spain is more conservative than Italy but the Soanish infra-structure is much better.Politically they are also kinda conservative/liberal .That could be a legacy from the recent past .
Ireland is part of the EU and evolves along western European lines .Its economically ahead of most places in Europe .
So I would say...Singapore is the best example you can find.
Regarding UK taxes...we pay nothing on the first £100 or so and then we pay 10% for the next so many..rising as your pay rises.Our NHS is 6% of our income deducted at source and it covers everything from GP to hospital to pensions and I honestly think its the best thing that ever happened in this country.It came about in 1947 and Nye Bevan introduced and millions of Brits still thank him for it.We pay for our "free" service but hope never to use it.Its there if needed for everybody .
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Gypsy interlude
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9/3/2009 11:18:44 AM
Of all the countries of Europe...Spain is the most visited for its sun,sea and sands but also its history and culture .The history of Spain is rich from its Islamic past....the palaces,mosques,paintings etc and from its Indian gypsy past which is alive and well in its music and dance ......the flamenco .
So what I am saying here ,is that at some point-the outsiders....gypsies became part of the rich fabric of Spain and we never realised.
http://www.marbellaguide.com/blog/spanish-gypsies/
Gitanos have greatly enriched Spanish culture with their contribution of Flamenco and finely handcrafted wares.
The Gitanos are from an ethnic group which calls itself Roma (also Rom). It is believed that gypsies migrated out of India and Pakistan (from Rajasthan and Punjab) into all parts of Europe around the eleventh century. The name Gitano comes from Egiptiano (Egyptian) in Spanish, because for many centuries it was thought their origins were in Egypt.
The Rom people speak the language of Romani (of Sanscrit origin) but after many centuries of nomadic living and assimilation into foreign countries the language is virtually non-existent today.
After losing their original Romani language, the Gitanos used Caló, a jargon with Spanish grammar and Romani vocabulary. Today, the majority of Gitanos use Spanish (Castillian and Andalus) as their primary language.
The Gitanos secretive and isolated existence (by choice) has always left them on the outside. They were severely persecuted and punished for wanting to sustain their customs and language as it has existed for thousands of years. For more than 300 years Gitanos had been forced to integrate with Spanish culture and completely abandon their culture and lifestyle.
Gitanos were required to marry non-gypsies, and they were denied their language and rituals, and were forbidden from traveling in groups of more than two. Gypsy dress, music and clothing were also banned. Thus gypsies were driven into a permanently submerged underclass from which they are still emerging today.
Within the Gitano community there is a very high level of illiteracy, ranging from children to adults and elders. Folklore, music and genealogy are passed down through the generations verbally in the form of spoken stories and songs (flamenco) within the tightly knit family units.
But as family members move away from the core family in search of earning a decent living. Many groups of Gitanos have also been forced into resettlements and others have abandoned the countryside for big cities. Since then they have experienced an increasing encroachment on their lifestyle by the non-Gypsies. This has led to the demise of gypsy traditions, language and customary ways of earning a living.
The Gitano population in Spain is around 500,000 with the largest concentration in Southern Spain. Gitano communities are abundant in parts of Seville, Granada, Jerez de la Frontera, Cadiz and Ronda, just to name a few.
As with all cultures, there is diversity within the culture. Many groups of gitanos still lead a very nomadic and isolated life from the rest of the Spaniards while others have settled and become prosperous shop owners of antiques and Spanish goods. Historically, they were excellent blacksmiths, coppersmiths, basket makers, horse traders and the like.
So, it is a logical step that they came to be owners of shops selling authentic Spanish goods. Many poorer Gitanos have given in to lives of crime and drugs in the big cities.
It is a shame that the general reputation of gitanos is that of thieves and beggars. The Gitanos in Spain are wonderfully friendly, talented, passionate and dedicated to family. Almost all Gitano communities (rich or poor) have one thing in common….they are an extremely tight group and really do not let to many outsiders in.
Holidays, parties, weddings, baptisms are usually only attended by other gitanos, family members from all parts of Spain. This way their customs really do stay within their world. The worst part about this is that this is what all outsiders really want to get a glimpse of…the foot stomping, joyous alegria of flamenco at its purest form….gypsy style!
It is impossible to write about gitanos without addressing Flamenco. Flamenco refers to a style of music and dance and is the expression of one culture, gitano. More than simply a type of folk music, flamenco embodies a complex musical and cultural tradition that dates back thousands of years.
Gypsies are believed to originally come from a caste of entertainers and musicians, and therefore, it seems inevitable that the gypsy communities of Andalucia became the custodians of a musical art form as rich, deep, and vigorous as flamenco. It is also likely that it grew out of the unique relationship of native Spanish, Moorish, and Gypsy cultures that existed in
Andalucia at the time.
Flamenco music and dance is dramatic and aggressive yet at the same time it is graceful and touching. Flamenco was driven by some of the same social forces that created American Blues music, those of cultural oppression. Flamenco, like the blues, has not always been eagerly accepted by the more conservative elements of society, perhaps because of its lyrics that often speak of oppression, persecution, incarceration and loneliness as well as passion and family.
Originally, flamenco consisted of just one person singing. Later, the musical style evolved and developed and integrated guitar, rhythmic hand clapping, finger snapping, percussion instruments (castenets and cajon) and dance. The dancer’s feet are considered an important percussion instrument too and the sound of the dancer’s feet, called soniquete are often amplified and used as part of the song. Flamenco is improvised to a certain degree but its strength rests in a continued existence of “flamenco puro”, performing in a style that has changed little in the last two hundred years. Flamenco and Gypsy culture is surprisingly conservative and unchanged with time.
Many Spanish artists perform flamenco intent on interpreting flamenco as they learned it, but the Gitanos reign supreme. No one can match their style and natural ability, this comes directly from the manner in which they live their lives, their culture…..they are born into flamenco. Flamenco is actually a way of living, it is a “forma de vivir”.
Gitanos in Spain have reached legendary status and many myths hold true and many do not. Their presence is everywhere in Spain, whether you see it or not. Theirs is a rich and proud culture that deserves to be respected and understood. They have contributed more to Spanish society that they have been credit for. Gitanos are in danger of slowly loosing some of their customs but I am sure that their culture will remain strong and prosper for centuries to come.
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Woman charged in beating of Winnipeg baby
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9/3/2009 11:11:36 AM
What is the matter with people that they would attack a child ?
I hope this woman gets life in prison and the mother is charged for total neglect .
I am fed up with the dogooders allowing criminals out into the community to commit horrendous crimes.An attack of any nature but particularly on a child deserves a harsh sentence .Only appropritate sentence.
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Gypsy interlude
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9/2/2009 8:50:52 AM
I dont have olive skin.
Italy is part of Europe, just a pity Europe makes some dumb decisions at times.
Your pic tells me olive and I have been to Italy numerous times .Shorter people too.There are blonds but they are northern or out the bottle.Either way olive skinned is the predominant colouring and while Europe makes some dumb decisions........some people like you should try being kinder since you can at any time be in those shoes.......again !
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Gypsy interlude
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9/2/2009 8:47:16 AM
I never shout abuse at black people, never have or would, in fact I prefer them in most cases to WASP's, to be totally honest.
I am sure that you as an individual never would but its common to do that in Italy and Spain .at football matches .They throw banana skins on the pitch and make monkey noises every time a black player touches the ball . You are American and thats different but whole families will sit and s in the stands while this goes on .
Mind you they also chant at people like Redondo and he is white.They call him Indian.
On the other hand the Spanish people are kinder and more accepting of all olive skinned peoples be they Arab or Indian or whatever.I have been on holidays to Spain and the bona fida Spanish will stop their car at the lights for an olive skinned girl (of any nationality.The ones with our group were Indian and the Spanish liked them) to cross over but not for some blond .
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Gypsy interlude
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Peter Andre was racially abused in schools in Austraila as a teenager .He is Greek and was born in London .He was beaten up as were all olive skinned folk like Itaians and Greeks etc. He was not abused because he is a crap singer .These were not accepted as white Europeans .There is still a debate on that.
And as newer immigrants head into Austraila these same folk like Italians or Greeks then turn on and look down on others although Peter Andre does not at all.
If we link crime to a group just because we don't like that group-thats stereotyping a whole lot of people but either way,you cannot find an organisation on par with the criminal activities of the Mafia to link with any other ethnic group.A few years ago a baby was kidnapped in Australia.This baby was Italian and her father had been killed in a in house Mafia hit the year before. Now what kind of behaviour is that ?
All those people....were Italians born in Australia but they didn't leave the Mafia back in Italy .Should we stereotype and label all Italians as we label Roma gypsies ?
A Brit girl student was killed in Italy by an American,Italian and an African .So....?
Polish people get abused here....and they are usually blond and blue-eyed but Polish people have been attacked yet EU regulations permit their UK entry.I am saying that this stupid business of why are you here etc is not good for anybody.Crime is wrong on all fronts and is a separate issue .
A Latvian or Polish guy abucted,raped and killed an Indian teenager in London about 3 years ago.He fled the country and we had to bring him back here to stand trial.Now...are all Polish guys...rapists ? No they are not. Added to this but this UK born Indian teenagers parents were suspected in as much as stereotyping meant that Scotland Yard had to eliminate the fact of say the girl just running away from home due to strict parenting.All that time the girl was lying dead in bushes and the Polish guy made his escape.His friends turned him in.
For some mad reason these east Europeans love British girls particularly white and Indian ones.They will touch them up on buses and approach them very brazenly which is offensive in the extreme but you still can't label them all as perverts.We had Romanians begging in the street years ago and it was a pain but its been eliminated by the police.
Irish tinkers used to go door to door ,years ago too.
Illegal Ghanians have been deported from Canada 9 times and still got back in and scammed millions from Toronto.Do we label Ghana ? Done the same here too with our Post Office .
Every nation on earth has some problem with some group but lets not pat ourselves on the back and look down on others.Crime is another matter entirely but you can't link the two unless you want the whole thing linked to you. as well .
I find Italians and Spanish people to be particularly racist towards anybody else unless you are olive skinned.They shout abuse at blacks quite openly and don't like WASP's .However they seek to identify with WASPS as in Australia.
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How many countries did you "colonise" and exploit?
quite a few I seem to remember.
Any injustice done to aboriginals was done by the English who colonised Aus.
Not by the Italians and Greeks who came after ww2. They have simply assimilated into anglo Aus.
As for the mafia, well thats a southern/sicilian thing.
But i dont begrudge them, Italians werent let into America and Aus to share the spoils.
Both countries needed to populate and needed worker bees.
But some wanted a piece of the wasp action and keep some Italianess.
Its precisely because I am a Brit that I know people will be people and seek pastures new.The Romans and Greeks sought pastures new.The Spanish,Dutch and French.The Russians .Felt free to sally forth,take over and rule other people and YOU as an Italian were no different and not exempt.You can keep your Little Italy back in Italy if you are worried about your culture at home.
You have "family" in two countries because Oz is good to you.Maybe the Roma have family in Rome and in Romania.If you were fully assisimilated.....you would not be thinking about Italy so thats your angle out the window.Peter Andre is 34 I think and thats probably your age range.You may think you are accepted and now look down on others but the thing is that Greeks and Italians are and were and may still be known as w o g s .I am saying its wrong if they are but you are wrong for covering up your racism with pretending to be goody two shoes and accepted.The Mafia is one of the biggest criminal firms in the world .What wouldn't they do ? Drug distribution,protection rackets,hits etc etc.
Thats okay is it ?
Libya has been paid some money to stop it and crack down on the people smugglers.
Funny how the right is getting stronger all over Europe huh?
Wait till the next UK election the BNP will do well.
Well we will see.The right did well in France years ago under LePen and it turned out to be a protest vote because the next time it disappeared .The French came out in the streets to protest against LePen .In Britain the protest was to not vote at all because of upset about MP's expenses.The BNP profited but in real terms their vote was down on their highest vote which was in 2004.In 2004...the BNP polled 800,000,nationwide.
Britain has 60 million people so you can then work out the maths.
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Message: Dual citizen mate, with family in both.
unlike the gypsies we assimilated, are law abiding citizens.
Oh really ? Who says that Italians in Oz are law abiding ?
You? Not being funny again but are you assimilated and living like the aboriginals ??
As for law abiding...pull the other one.Who runs the Mafia everywhere they go ?
In every country that has Italians has Mafia making any little scam gypies can do to be small fry .You wanted to talk stereotyping so Italy is the better example...!
Libya is or was a big source of italys illegals, where do u think they bought passage in those deathtrap boats to get to Lampedusa?
Well this is news to me.Since when has Libya been known as a sub-Saharan population ? It may be news to you but sub-Saharan Africans pass through the Arab countries to reach Italy and why should the Arabs stop them ?? If you don't want illegals ...why should Libya have them ?
You should be voting for the BNP instead.
Not a chance .BTW....it wasn't too long ago that Italians were known as "w o g s" in Oz and now you are looking down your nose at other people? Peter Andre who is a Greek born in England tells of regular beatings and racists chantings against him in OZ while at school .He was glad to return to the UK.
You ought to think back and realise that racism could be directed at you next just as quick as it was in previous years .
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Message: Easy to say when your culture is only 200 years old and is a mish mash of other cultures.
Try having one thats over 2000 and a falling birth rate.
you ask the eu and Romania for help to deal with illegals and roma and they do nothing.
Finally Europeans are waking up.
Italy signed an agreement with libya to stop the illegals.
Not being funny or anything but what is a proud Italian doing in Austraila ?
If you feel free to swan off to Oz then why can't gypies feel the same way and come to Italy ? The Roma by their nature and culture are prone to waunder around so I am glad the old girl Madonna spoke up.I wish she would do more like fund an orphange or something there.There is chronic poverty in Romania .Boris Becker devotes a fare bit there .
Its a disgrace how the gypies are treated in the eastern EU countries .We here are better but not by much.
Further.....Libya is not the source of Italy's illegals .Its sub-saharan Africans and you know that or should.Didn't they have shoot outs and all sorts with the ruddy Mafia in soutern Italy over drug distribution? Blocked off the highways in and out.
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BREAKING NEWS: Sen. Ted Kennedy Dies At Age 77
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8/30/2009 8:54:33 AM
I am saddened at the passing of Edward Kennedy .He had a good life and saw more suffering than is usual .He tried to help people by public service and he need not have done .He had plenty of money to hide away out of sight and drunk as his accusers keep blaming him for .
Tax dollars is whats been paid into the ruddy kitty already so why was HE expected to use his own money to sort out poor people by his accusers yet again ? Bush is a multi-millionaire and he is getting richer by the minute as this Iraq business goes on (Haliburton ) .Yet I bet Kennedy's accusers voted old Bush in twice but thats okay isn't it.Its okay to send soldiers to war and its okay for your own company to profit from govt tax dollars .Give me strength !
I am too young to know about Mary Jo but what was she doing in his car in the first place ? Call Kennedy a pervert by all means but she was a willing partner to being in his car.An accident happened and he ran off in fear or whatever .He swan out....so could she really.Thats no excuse but thats what accidents are...what ifs.
Its not a what if that US soldiers died in two Iraq wars and Haliburton is profiteering.why didn't Bush use his own money to fund his own little gripe with whoever he had issues with if thats your thought process ?
Coming back to the Kennedys.Passing of a era.Your shining moment in history.
My father spent a lot of time in America in the 60's and he heard Obama speak yesterday in Boston and it was most impressive after being subject to the idiot Bush for all these years but even Obama does not have the skills of communication that the elder brothers had and Obama is a good and decent leader.
The elder Kennedys were the very best of America and its sad to realise that some Americans don't even know greatness when they see it but the world does.
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What takes priority – respect for someone’s culture or your principles?
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8/21/2009 1:45:46 AM
lol...this is more an issue of bad manners verses good manners .
Plenty of intelligent and well informed people here who have the right angle on things.Why go to a muslim wedding if you have not done your homework ? I mean.....you do not even have to make enquiries.The media makes as much noise as possible to warn us that Islam separates men and women yet this MP had no clue but most of us did ?
I think that MP is rude and ignorant,spoiling someone's wedding day and to top it off promoting himself as some kind of freedom fighter .He needs to get an education.
My girlfriends mother is muslim and I have been to a few events,such as wedding receptions, where you may find everybody in a big hall.Family groups at big round tables.All women having a natter at others and all men at other tables .Whats so wrong with that and even if you had women in one place and men in another ? Women like to talk and socialise.Its not like you have to be stuck like glue to your wife and your girlfriend .Why do we have boys nights out ? Girls nights out ? Men only stag do's ? Women only hen nights ?
Why the big deal if they are muslim ? Its not like the women were locked in the room.They are going in and out and usually chatting,dancing and of course.....eating....it being a reception.I have often found it a mixed hall rather than not but the women tend to want to sit with other women for a natter.You will see white people with their partners sat together on a table which is okay but I prefer to mix in as in be with mates.My girlfriend will be going and coming with me anyway.
Wherever we have been ourselves we carry on our own traditions.The Scots Americans carry on playing their bagpipes at weddings in the US and wearing the kilts on said days.Joanna Lumbly's parents and grandparents and great grandparents met and married in the east as in India yet they carried on having weddings and receptions as they did in Britain even though they had lived in India for a few generations .These little traditions are personal.They cause no offense be they here or in other countries .
The MP is an idiot for spoiling someones wedding day .He is wrong on every level.
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TMZ Reporting Jackson Nor Rowe are the biological parents
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7/3/2009 1:59:32 PM
It always surprised the hell out of me that even ONE person ever believed that those kids maybe be MJ's kids. I have seen thousands of mixed race kids of the black/white variety and those kids aren't remotely mixed race. Sometimes those mixed race kids are so dark as to be black but you can detect the black genes in even the lightest mixed race child.You see it in the skin colour,hair type and features->its there and its obvious.
Debbie Rowe is likely to be the mother.The girl looks like her .
I feel so sad for those children.I feel sad that human beings could mistreat kids in the manner that these kids have been treated and worse in full glare of the world who was too dazzled by celebrity to question why MJ bought those kids.The mother sold those children and he brought them.Talk all the BS you want but thats not what a "mother" does or what a "father" is supposed to be. He ran away to Neverland with the one baby newly born and still covered in blood .What kind of animal is that.Forget an musical imput...why are we so accepting of this behaviour just because he had a supposedly hard childhood ? They were paraded around with their heads covered and no protests from child abuse agencies.
The guy was a pervert and Debbie Rowe sold her kids to him.For those who say it wasn't proven and that the Chandlers accepted payment and that if they were true allegations then they wouldn't have....I say his payment proves that he was guilty and he proved it time and time again thereafter.
His music was shit pop but even if it was brilliant....I would rather not listen to a perv and I never did.I am sick of the media bombarding his with constant coverage.They give us no choice at all.
I hope that Katherine Jackson can be there for those kids and I feel she will.Either way they will have huge problems...wait and see.
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breaking news!!....michael jackson haas died!
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Elvis and Priscilla met in 1959 at a party in Bad Nauheim, Germany during his stay in the army. She was 14 years old at the time. They quickly began a romantic relationship and were frequently together until Elvis left Germany in 1960. In her autobiography, Elvis and Me, Priscilla says that Elvis refused to have sex with her until they were married. However, biographer Suzanne Finstad writes that Priscilla and Elvis slept together on their second date, and that she wasn't a virgin when she met him.
There are hundreds of books written about Elvis and Priscilla,- by Priscilla, friends,relatives ,fans,gossips,columists and others.In fact he is probably one of the most written about guys ever .I believe that Priscilla and her parents were the users and thats even going on the whitewashed version they are given us.But lets ignore all of that and pick up the version that you choose to believe and that is that she was 14 and came to his party bought there by Curry Grant.So she came to him rather than he went looking for some 14 year old.He had no clue she was 14.He had a mother fixation for the dark hair and Priscilla had dark hair.He had lost his mother and was drawn to her.Thats the biggest thing that comes across about Elvis's life.He loved his mother .
So if according to you Priscilla was not a virgin before meeting Elvis.....lol....thats not Elvis's fault now is it ? Thats Priscilla's fault and her parents .Her pics of that time show her to be looking like 18 or 19.Suzanne Finstad writes that they talked in his room since they had about 100 people in the small German house every single eveing.We are not talking mansions here. I think that Priscilla was a virgin on marriage taking into consideration those times and not so easy access to contraception and the fact that Elvis had some restraint.She states how she wanted it and he wouldn't do it.
About the court martial. Nope.lol.He married her years after leaving the army so get a grip will you.
Everyone needs their 15 minutes of fame on the anti-MJ bandwagon! Enjoy the attention!
Taking it so personally aren't you ?
lol...you are joking right or on something
Grow up and smell the coffee.
MJ was a total shit and is made out to be some poor misunderstood .The media made him and now instead of getting on with real events of the world they have decided to fawn and saturate us with 24/7 coverage and pass it off as if you don't like it don't read it.They decide they will bombard us.We have no choice at all.Shit guy,shit music and shit morals.Then the media have a nerve expecting Obama to comment.Hasn't he got a job of work to do thats more important than praising a gay crackhead ?
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breaking news!!....michael jackson haas died!
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Message: Elvis was a pedophile. Priscilla's parents let her stay with him. There is Elvis worship. What grown man comes home from the military to sleep with a 14-year old? Take the foot out of the mouth already.
Not quite .Priscilla looked older than her years.Her parents pushed her onto Elvis and its admitted by her and them that thats what happened BUT they also admit that she did NOT stay the night or alone in the house.They met in December and he left Germany 4 months later.She moved in with HIS parents at 16.She is on the record as saying that Elvis was adamant that he would NOT have sex with her till marriage and that took place at age 21.Lisa Marie was virtually concieved right away .Now if he was a paedaphile he would be going out with teen girl after teen girl but thats not the case.This Priscilla had him in the palm of her hand at whatever age she was throughout his life.There was only 10 years difference btw them anyway and its a love story of some proportions despite the fact I think she was a user ..So I suggest you stop excusing MJ by making comparisons that hold no water .There was a massive age gap and those kids complained about sex abuse by MJ.It was also gay like your comments are .So if these complaints were made and he paid good money to avoid further legal action and bad publicity.....................why did he go on to do the same thing again and again ?
His payout couldn't stop the bad publicity so why pay out?
And why did he do it again and again ?
Elvis was the true ground breaker in music.He was worldwide famous on sheer talent alone BEFORE the days of Sony etc spending millions on publicity for the likes of MJ.
The media is promoting MJ by saturation coverage.The man MJ was shit.The music was mundane.There is no comparison to Elvis at any time.
Elvis had a love story with Priscilla.She never took him to court to say he had molested her.Her parents never did either .Thats your answer and to top it off............he married her.Many people meet at 14 and marry at 20.
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Michael Jackson Has Died?
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6/28/2009 12:38:56 PM
Message: I agree Pants, also what is quite odd is how now we are seeing the pictures of what his children really look like and his two boys are undoubtedly mixed race and look very much like him when he was young. I wonder what the reason for this is now? Why have the media only used veiled and masked pics of the kids and portrayed them as white and blonde previously when quite clearly they weren't?
Are you joking or what ?
I mean its okay to like MJ but to say that those kids look mixed race is the far side of daftness..............and thats saying it mildly.
Debra Rowe is on record as saying that those kids are hers by an annonymous WHITE sperm donor and it shows in those kids from the skin to hair to features .I even think the young one.....Blanket is from a darker caucasian type.
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Stop and search: white people held 'to balance racial statistics'
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6/20/2009 12:42:02 PM
What he is saying is that the average white person could not distinguish between a Indian and a Pakistani, where as an Asian probably could.
No.I am not talking of the average white person.the average white person has no authority to stop and search .I am talking about trained police officers .If they could pick out Irish from other whites.They should be trained to pick out muslims from other Asians .......................but muslims can be all races .
So the big question which requires an answer is :
If the terror suspects of 21/7 London were shown on CCTV to be black and African and their mugs were plastered all over the UK media......................why was DeMenzies picked out and followed and then shot ???? A South American Roman Catholic ?
He was followed because "terror suspects" in our mind are Pakistanis or Asians and the Latin DeMenzies fitted that image.................despite the mugshots looking out at us of black African muslims .
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Stop and search: white people held 'to balance racial statistics'
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I read that some people have not liked the above comment by zeegary but the majority of people would struggle to distinguish between Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs walking down the street let alone distinguish another ethnic minority or Caucasian's religion. Though most Hindus / Muslims etc can distinguish between each other, as at 31 March 2008, on average less than 7% of the police force was made up of ethnic minorities (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmhansrd/cm080910/text/80910w0019.htm) so it would be wrong to think the police force would be able to. Obviously not all followers of a religion are necessarily of the same race but the majority currently carrying out attacks are. Terrorist attacks and religion don't have to go hand in hand but obviously in the majority of cases here at the moment almost all are by ethnic minorities so I think zeegary's comment is fair.
Well okay.It begs the question why was the DeMenzies guy picked out and killed by the smart Met Police ??? If all you are going is what you percieve to be the race of the suspects ?
In what way did he fit the "suspect" criteria ?
The guy was Roman Catholic and Latin .Now I know people thought he was Pakistani and muslim and therefore a terrorist suspect but he wasn't, was he .That shows how deceptive appearences are. Then consider why he was picked on at all .Why? When the CCTV pics of the 21st July bomber suspects were all black and African ?
So if DeMenzies was shot and killed in mistake for a suspected Pakistani...........didn't the police check the CCTV pics ?? The whole of the UK saw the pics but the police didn't ?
Last point is that if the police were able to pick out Irish people from other whites, in the days of the IRA......how is it they can't pick out only the muslims from the Asian community ?
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Obama's Cairo Speech...
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6/12/2009 7:39:23 AM
I must admit that I had grave reservations about Obama but I like all he is doing or trying to do so far .He is reaching out to all the people who felt the hostility of previous US goverments .He is trying the hand of friendship.He may be wrong but I think he is right to try.He is showing the caring side of America to the Middle East and honestly I am real happy to see that he does so,in your name.
Only this week I watched a documentry on Iran and its social life trends.It was interesting to see the reaction of the ordinary man and woman in the street to Obama's speech.They were touched and smiled .It made them happy.Of course this is a one off but its a start.The Islamic world is not perfect by any means but neither are we.The big deal is that east or west-most every day folk want a peaceful life and anything is worth a try to that end ideal .Trying is free.Trying takes guts.
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Obama spells doom for America
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I must admit to having reservations about Obama .i felt that people were voting for him on the basis that he is black so lets give him a chance. That reason is not good enough in my mind because you do not see black countries as successful countries even though they are headed by black men.In fact those countries are the poorest and most corrupt countries on earth.
But the USA is different.Obama is the figurehead with a strong team.He himself is really a good and decent guy.America is well liked now and its down to America choosing Obama .Not a black guy but a good guy.Just a qualified person instead of an idiot like Bush and his rabble.
America can never be like the America of JFK.That was the peak in recent history .
Obama can never be JFK but thats the nearest America will be able to come to those heady days .Don't look at colour- white man as in idiot Bush or black man as in Obama. Obama is the best symbol of American ideals today and goodwill is coming your way so please give him a chance.He is doing great things for America.
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A dad aged 13
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Not talking about it ?
Are you joking .We talk it to death and educate till we are blue in the face.Fact is that introducing sex education to young children in schools tells them the mechanics of it.They feel that its the done thing and expected so they go out and do it.
Thats whats causing this kind of thing and its not a one off either.
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They need to stop sex education in schools until the teen years and strongly advice against it till much older.These things cause the dogooders to lower the age further.all it does it make the child think its the done thing and lets get on with it.
The media should stop paying for these shabby stories too.Its past a joke now.
While we are there-stop all benefits unless you are over 18 and only for the first child if that.Find your own accomadation so no council flats.
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islamaphobe politician turned away from the uk
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2/16/2009 7:14:36 AM
What surprises me is the amount of people who seem to think muslims got this guy banned somehow .Have you ever given a thought to why we feel afronted ? How much we feel afronted and spare a thought to if they ever feel it .
Lets face it-we took war to them in Iraq and in Afghanistan and up to that point they had never done anything to us .If you count 9/11 then obviously you felt that personally on someone elses behalf .Its bad but it didn't happen in the UK so if we felt its enough to send us over there ,all guns blazing then they know we are the enemy .
BTW- 9/11 was a set up and its virtually clear.Some duffers sat in caves cannot mastermind a thing like that .They are hard pressed to get a camel train on the move let alone something like this. So whats in it for Bush ? Okay- Haliburton .
If you think they wouldn't do that you are wrong.Haliburton is providing the services to US troops in Iraq/Afghanistan at a massive profit and Cheney and Bush have interests in that. You need a war to profit .Lives are cheap.Business comes first for Bush even at the expense of America.After 9/11 all flights were grounded in the USA but one flight went out on the orders of Bush.This contained all the Bin Ladens since they are family friends of the Bush's.
And whilst I remember.....old Bush snr.......his fathers company had links with the Nazis in WW2 .They were trading with the Nazis even while America was at war with Germany so don't be believing that crap of whats in it for them.Loyalty is only expected of the common man not those at the top.
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Another one being selective in their choice of wars. How about the Moors trying to rampage through Europe in 732 and falling in France? Have you ever heard of Charles the Hammer? Is any country in the world truly safe with Islam as a next door neighbour? Take Israel. Every muslim country in the middle East would love to blow them off the face of the earth.
Oh,I suppose you were alive back in 732 and its all fresh in your memory is it.What about our crusades then .Or us going over to America,Canada,NZ and Australia and not doing as they do but forcing them to do as we do and eliminating them in the bargain.Of course we are so wonderful that we fought with France when we felt like it .Fought with Spain,Germany and Russia also on whim.We are Christain see .We also reserve the right to fight the picts,celts,Irish and Scots as and when.
Then we like to fight other white countries in case they want our colonies as in India or Singapore or Malaysia,Africa.Us fighting is okay .
The Bosnians had a division did they ? Okay...the Poles,Ukrainians did too.Lord Haw Haw did to so why is the muslim Bosnian worse than Lord Haw Haw ? What about Vichy France ? And lets remember this matey......about muslims....
At the outbreak of World War II, the Indian army numbered 205,000 men. Later on during World War II the Indian Army would become the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men in size.
The areas of conflict were the:
Mediterranean, Middle East and African theatres of World War II
East African campaign
North African campaign
Operation Compass
Operation Battleaxe
Operation Crusader
First Battle of El Alamein
Second Battle of El Alamein
Anglo-Iraqi War
Syria-Lebanon campaign
Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran
Italian campaign
Battle of Monte Cassino
Battle of Hong Kong
Battle of Malaya
Battle of Singapore
Burma Campaign
Battle of Kohima
Battle of Imphal
About 87,000 Indian soldiers lost their lives during this conflict. Indian soldiers won 30 Victoria Crosses during the Second World War. (See: Indian Victoria Cross recipients.)
These included the dreaded muslims in those ranks .
Yes and Hitler had a SS division made up of Bosnian Muslims who were responsible for sending Jews to the gas chambers and your point is what exactly? It was a world war, and I would imaging half the world fought it. Anyway. Why does my political views have to be "as for that BNP person" be aired with such petty venom? What is your point on that issue? Whats your views on having things like a muslim council of Britain, or a black policemans association? Is that not deemed racist? The thing is, people like to feel safe and be able to travel on a bus,plane or train without the fear of getting blown to bits by a deluded islamic extremist who hasnt got the guts to take up arms in a real war. When they have no wars to fight they start bombing each other because they differ on certain religious issues. Such a wonderful religion isnt it?
You have a very selective memory for history and current events.Selectively petty and vemenous as far as I can see.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-403757/Fury-academics-claim-9-11-inside-job.html
which left almost 3,000 people dead was an "inside job", according to a group of leading academics.
Around 75 top professors and leading scientists believe the attacks were puppeteered by war mongers in the White House to justify the invasion and the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries.
See also...
• New DNA bid to identify 9/11 victims
• Flight 93 'was shot down' claims book
The claims have caused outrage and anger in the US which marks the fifth anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Monday.
But leading scientists say the facts of their investigations cannot be ignored and say they have evidence that points to one of the biggest conspiracies ever perpetrated.
Professor Steven Jones, who lectures in physics at the Brigham Young University in Utah, says the official version of events is the biggest and most evil cover up in history.
He has joined the 9/11 Scholars for Truth whose membership includes up to 75 leading scientists and experts from universities across the US.
Prof Jones said: "We don't believe that 19 hijackers and a few others in a cave in Afghanistan pulled this off acting alone.
"We challenge this official conspiracy theory and, by God, we're going to get to the bottom of this."
In essays and journals, the scientists are giving credence to many of the conspiracy theories that have circulated on the internet in the past five years.
They believe a group of US neo-conservatives called the Project for a New American Century, set on US world dominance, orchestrated the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to hit Iraq, Afghanistan and later Iran.
The group says scientific evidence over the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon is conclusive proof.
Professor Jones said it was impossible for the twin towers to have collapsed in the way they did from the collision of two aeroplanes.
He maintains jet fuel does not burn at temperatures high enough to melt steel beams and claims horizontal puffs of smoke seen during the collapse of the towers are indicative of controlled explosions used to bring down the towers.
The group also maintains World Trade Centre 7 - a neighbouring building which caught fire and collapsed later in the day - was only partially damaged but had to be destroyed because it housed a clandestine CIA station.
Professor James Fetzer, 65, a retired philosopher of science at the University of Minnesota, said: "The evidence is so overwhelming, but most Americans don't have time to take a look at this."
The 9/11 Commission dismissed the numerous conspiracy theories after its exhaustive investigation into the terror attacks.
Subsequent examinations of the towers' structure have sought to prove they were significantly weakened by the impact which tore off fire retardant materials and led the steel beams bending under heat and then collapsing.
Christopher Pyle, professor of constitutional law at Mt Holyoake College in Massachusetts, has dismissed the academic group.
He said: "To plant bombs in three buildings with enough bomb materials and wiring? It's too huge a project and would require far too many people to keep it a secret afterwards.
"After every major crisis, like the assassinations of JFK or Martin Luther King, we've had conspiracy theorists who come up with plausible scenarios for gullible people. It's a waste of time."
But University of Wisconsin assistant professor, Kevin Barrett, said experts are unwilling to believe theories which don't fit into their belief systems.
He said: "People will disregard evidence it if causes their faith to be shattered. I think we were all shocked. And then, when the voice of authority told us what happened, we just believed it."
As the fifth anniversary approached, the 9/11 Scholars for Truth is urging Congress to reopen the investigation claiming they have amassed a wealth of scientific evidence to prove their version of the terror attacks.
The people at the top organise the outrages against percieved enemises and the media manipulates the public.If you notice after 21/7 our media was ;
"shoot the **stards!"
"shoot to kill"
So they shoot the wrong man and suddenly everyyone changes tack........
" our trigger happy police !"
Personally I couldn't understand why they shot an olive skinned man when the CCTV they showed us on TV showed us suspects of the African ethnic group whose members jumped on the Eurotunnel and left the country even while we were supposed to be on high alert .Thats what happens when phobias warped rational thought .
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Title: Prison population of British nationals: by ethnic group: Social Trends 34
Last Updated: 28/1/04
Description: White males made up 84 per cent of the male prison population of British nationals in England and Wales in 2002. Black British nationals accounted for 11 per cent of the sentenced population in prison, 13 per cent of the remand population and 21 per cent of fine defaulters. The ethnic grouping of the female British prison population follows roughly similar proportions.
Within the sentenced British female prison population, there are considerable differences in offence types between White females and those from ethnic minorities. The proportion of Black British females sentenced for drug offences (45 per cent) was almost twice the proportion of White British females (25 per cent).
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=7363&More=Y
So who and where are these muslims in the prison population ?
People from minority ethnic groups had higher unemployment rates than those in the White group in 2001-02 and young people (aged 16 to 24) had higher unemployment rates than the working age population across all ethnic groups. Overall the Bangladeshi, group had the highest unemployment rate, at 21 per cent. Unemployment among young people aged 16-24 ranged from 37 per cent among young Bangladeshi people to 11 per cent of young White people.
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=6282
High at 21 % sure but not high as has been quoted.
By John Aston and Mike Taylor
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The radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza has lost his High Court battle against extradition to the United States, where he faces a jail sentence of up to 100 years.
If convicted on terrorist charges he is likely to spend the rest of his life locked up for 23 hours a day in a top-security jail in Colorado.
Two High Court judges sitting in London ruled yesterday that the decision to extradite Hamza was "unassailable" but gave him 14 days to appeal to the House of Lords. Hamza could delay the move further by taking his case to the European Court of Human Rights.
He was the first person to be arrested under a new Anglo-American extradition treaty in 2004. Hamza, 50, of west London, who has hooks on his partly amputated arms, is serving a seven-year sentence in Britain for stirring up racial hatred and inciting followers to kill non-believers.
US prosecutors want him to stand trial on up to 11 charges, including sending money and recruits to al-Qa'ida and the Taliban. They claim he was involved in a global conspiracy to wage jihad against the West. One of the most serious charges is that he was involved in the kidnap of 16 tourists in Yemen in 1998. Four hostages, including three Britons, died in a rescue attempt.
I am not religious and i do not believe a politician has a God given right to go around causing upset.The thing is this Dutchman is in trouble in Holland already so I do not blame our Government for not allowing him in.However whether he was let in or not he would still gain publicity because our media is obsessed in making issues of things.Making it so we read about Posh,Becks,Jade or Jordan daily.Making it that we are anti-muslim .I have never seen of any school besieged by muslim men but I have seen guys (white or black ) hanging round schools to sell drugs and pick up girls and thats considered okay by us.Its only not okay if we hear on the grapevine of some school where some muslims may do it .And sure we are those same people who accept 13 year old fathers and 15 year old mothers as the norm when its us but we like to recall back 600 years to tar old Mo with the same brush!
And 9/11 was an inside job.I have no doubt at all.Anybody who has read the evidence ,seen the pics just knows its impossible to do this flight unless you hae the highest level of training .I have a friend who flies.He is American and he has been flying 5 years already and still he is only upto the standard of being local .How can some guys have 10 lessons and fly across country,pick out buildings in New York City.A city of such size and crash into it as well ??? That is the key .
As for the war in Afghanistan and our boys there.Okay.I support our troops but those people didn't deserve this war on Bush's whim.So we think nothing of bombing them and messing them around .we pick fault with them at home and blame them because some crap Dutchmen wants to come here and whip up hatred against them in the bargain . We want it all ways.
And by the way-these are the same people who helped us in WW2 when they were sat far far away-empire or no empire .
As for that BNP person who claims Islam started all wars.I wasn't aware that Hitler or the Kaiser were muslims ? Help me out. Mussolini ? Was Italy muslim in WW2?
Is the Irish issue anything to do with Islam?
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Hey......why the thread here.It was just "friendly banter " mate !
I mean you said that only yesterday on the Prince Harry thread right.Friendly banter and the Irish and Scots fight and die for England ?
Pc gone stir crazy ...taking umbrage on a minor thing like this !
Friendly banter is all it is...............a bit more than the IRA bombings I grant you but................we are all mates....lol
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SCHOOLDAZE
Excellent points . You hit it on the hit.There are more white people people taking offence because some guy is insulted . Its like they reserve the right to insult and feel more injured than the victim. The Nazis felt that way on being discovered at the end of WW2 .
i actually think it shows he has character. he called his mate a paki, (he is!!!) which his mate didn't mind apparently, and he made a joke on the phone ending with god save the queen. He's young and full of fun - whats the problem. I bet half of the children educated in your expensive, private school, who know how to behave choose not to alot of the time
The defination of "character" must of declined then ................
.and his mate didn't know he was being called "little Paki" Harry being full of "character " said it behind his back . It seems that Harry is so idiotic that he hasn't been able to remember peoples given names .His brain cell of one is too small.
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I care not one jot if you find it believable, it happened fact, end of....
Oh sure it happened lol.Stray text and he realised his mistake too ..and then went to the trouble of calling you to explain it so you could then relate it on here......................zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Indians and Pakistanis BOTH get called it by racists.Excuse yourselves by all means but you can't xplain away the racism as PC nonsense.
All the clutching at straws of this and that is getting a bit pathetic you know.
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sounds like a backronym to me. When the term paki was in free use, it was as a diminutive of pakistani.
Its in free use by racists.In Britain and those teeshirts are an attempt to say ok......so what...we are not ashamed of being Pakistanis .
Perhaps you may like to google up the origin of the word Pakistan.Paki is not something they use themselves ever.Its a racist word coined in Britain. lol and if its used in private....how would you know its used at all ?
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Brit - British, Scot - Scottish, Taff - Welsh, Aussie - Australian, Yank - American
Afghan - Afghanistani, Paddy - Irish, Kiwi - New Zealand, Frog - French, Argie - Argentinian PAKI - Pakistani is this really rascist or political correctness gone mad ???
If so being called a Brit by a non Brit is rascist and I should be offended !!! would I be offended ?? Nooooooooo how silly would that be ??
Explain then why Indians are called "paki" if its just a clear cut case of being short for something like Pakistani?
Talk about silly or racist.lol
Its not a term used in Pakistan or India. Its a racist term coined in Britain .
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It is the Army... it was three years ago..no offence was taken by the other lad..it sells papers... get a grip and get over it...
It seems that Harry referred to the cadet as our " little Paki friend "
Obviously the way and content did appear racist to the other guys.
Seems that the "littlePaki" was unaware of his "nickname"
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Can you substantiate your claim with fact please?
We can all say we work with this fella and he says this and that but without evidence of this you have no debate.
lol....those very same work collegues have been discussing the matter and they know that Paki is a racist term to describe INDIANS AND PAKISTANIS. Its not used in India.Its an unknown term to them so thats a fact.Where did you get it from ?
It may be exported over there from here as chicken tikka has but thats all.They don't use it because I have heard them say that when a racist calls them Paki.....they don't think to ask if they are Indian or Pakistani and its no good objecting that hey....we are Indian .we are not Pakistani.
Let me assure you I am not PC but let me tell you that you and countless others are trying to pass off rasism as high jinks or as PC gone haywire and its showing thru loud and clear as racism.
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