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Dave in Phoenix

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/21/2006 8:53:50 PM
Sexworkers As Political Footballs to Mislead on Trafficking The use of sex workers as political footballs continues unabated, even among self-identified liberals. Nicholas Kristoff was at it again in New York Times Op Ed page. Just like his comrades in the State Department, whose praises he sings with an embarrassing effusiveness, Kristoff has let his obsession with sex trafficking lead him to tinker with the facts. In his zeal to exaggerate the phenom, he segues seamlessly from descriptions of girls in prostitution to the global total of all trafficked people: "I've seen the peddling of humans in many countries: the 8-year- old Filipino girl whose mother used to pull her out of school to rent pedophiles; the terrified 14-year-old Vietnamese girl imprisoned in a brothel pending the sale of her virginity; the Pakistani teenager whose brothel's owner dealt with her resistance by drugging her into a stupor. The U.N. has estimated that 12.3 million people worldwide are caught in forced labor of one kind or another." According to UNICEF , a large part of that tally is trafficking of babies for adoption in the West, trafficking of girls for mail-order brides, and trafficking for domestic work. The significant trafficking busts in the United States--the sinking of the Golden Venture, with its cargo of trafficked garment workers; the New York City racket involving deaf Mexicans who were trafficked to work as beggars on the subways--all involve adults forced into various kinds of indentured servitude involving manual labor, not young girls forced into brothels. UNICEF estimates that of the 246 million children engaged in child labor worldwide, only about 1.8 million are engaged in prostitution or pornography. Those at the State Department and on the Christian right who have made sex trafficking their top priority are not doing it to save those 246 million kids from grinding labor in factories or as domestic servants. They're doing it to serve a broader agenda of legislating morality and disempowering women. And who's a better poster girl for that crusade than Kristoff's imprisoned 14-year-old?

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/21/2006 8:52:20 PM
Oprah - Typical Ignorance From a Provider on aspd.net Oprah did a show monday on women working prostitution. And of course, we were all labelled as drug addicted street walkers who have $400 crack habits and don't love ourselves. This makes my blood boil. Afterwards, there were many postings in her discussion board. Over 200 now. Many providers defended themselves and our life, asking her to talk to women who have made successful business and provide a better quality of life for their families. Well, the response from Oprah fans was amazing. Apparently we are all going to hell, we sexually abused as children, have no self respect and we are no better than child molesters. So a few of us wrote and one lady I knew left her information to be contact. Well, loving christians took her info and managed to find her real name, where she lives and even where her children were. They posted this information on CL and told they would send it to all her neighbors and children's school. They ended with "What goes around comes around whore." I am so upset and I feel for her so badly. She said if it was her, it was one thing, but not when people are posting the names and location of her children online. She is closing up shop for their safety. So tell me, is this Oprah's idea of benefiting us - her fantatical fans zealously hurting women based on what they do. Maybe I should think this though more, but I am heartbroken. To me, it sends a message: "If you are a whore, you have not rights and anyone can ruin you life." Cala Sara Massage for Discerning LA Men nice website deleted Other Comments: I have witnessed a number of events firsthand in my lifetime and then seen a completely misrepresented " newscast or special" portrayed in the media of the same event. That said, let us remember that Oprah started as a reporter, she has an agenda, it's ratings.She and others simply tell us what they want us to believe, conditioning us into their beleif or agenda. Why would she do that? One likely reason is her core audience is the Americian housewife who almost always is theatened by sex outside of what she can control. The street walking, drug using, aids infested whore is the conditioning image they WANT to picture, being truthful has NOTHING to do with it. --- Bottom line is these Christian women feel threatened by your sexuality. As long as your vocation is your free choice, let he/she who cast the first stone........ --- Oprah's show is targeted to the upper middle class women who are primarily housewives and child rearers. A show showing a few "high class" call girls who enjoy a great drug-free, pimp free life would not appeal to them. They would not sit down with their daughters to watch the show and say, " Not that's a choice the guidance counselors at school didn't mention!"

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/21/2006 8:51:37 PM
What most people don't get is that private prostituion IS LEGAL in almost all the world except the U.S. with out any significant negative issues, no need for STD testing and of course HIV really isn't an issue. Again most have nothing to do with drugs or all the horrors the anti-sex agenda folks are trying to make folks think that only apply to maybe the 10% who are street hookers or on drugs with pimps, etc. In the real world of private sexwork this is silly. Shows like Oprah and the religoius right rants show a totally distorted picture of sexwork that has nothing to do with most or PRIVATE sexwork in the world.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/21/2006 1:50:36 AM
almost always have an effect on their self worth or how they think of themselves Yes and in many cases it helps their self worth as they find it very empowering, especially outside the U.S. without the legal issues which are far more a concern than the customers. Again this is not the 10% that are the street hookers, but private by choice, consenting adult women.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/20/2006 1:17:50 AM
It just isn't my cup of tea, and what I see downtown...lets buy shares then because it is one of the oldest professions, and I am sure I would make some money on those shares. What your seeing "downtown" are the street hookers not the zillions of attractive often college educated private sexworker often with pictures and schedules of websites, have clients screened, a driver that picks them up from home takes to client and returns home etc. Most of these women would never work on the streets. Why should it be illegal in the U.S. where we are suppose to be fighting wars for personal freedoms we don't have in the U.S, while almost everywhere else in the world women do not have to fear the cops more than clients in private consenting adult sexwork. There are no significant negative issues in the world where private at least outcall is legal. Why should it be illegal in the U.S. just because the religious right gets these laws passed because they think they know what is best for us. In the U.S. Supreme Court Lawrence vs Texas case which I have discussed extensively on my websites, (they are non commercial public info with ave 3000+ visitors a day on two of them, but I'm told I can't post link here), laws based on "morality" are not constitutional. Regarding owning a brothel yes can be very good investment for example in 2003: Brothel shares leap in value Investors embraced shares in the sex industry group The Daily Planet Ltd today, with the brothel more than doubling its value on its stock market debut. The Daily Planet, with its core asset the eponymous Melbourne brothel, hit the Australian Stock Exchange boards at 70 cents - compared to the 50 cents issue price under its $3.75 million initial public offering. By the end of the day Daily Planet had more than doubled its initial value, closing at its high of $1.09 with 1.4 million shares changing hands.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Are all prostitutes the same? Posted: 5/20/2006 1:01:41 AM
She could go to a 7am to 4 pm job anytime she wants doing anything but that. Yah at minimum wage. Some women choose to work for higher pay and sex to some women isn't some dirty nasty thing like in the U.S. culture. Because of the unique legal situation, in the U.S. you have zillions of scams, ripoffs, pimps and a terrible situation with wild variations in pricing. Where its legal such as Canada, most of Europe, Australia, New Zealand and most other places there is a lot less scams and people taking advantage of professional sexworkers (not street hookers which have problems worldwide since usually related to drugs etc). For example pricing in Canada is maybe 90% within reasonable ranges. In large cities such as Toronto and Vancouver typically $200/$250CDN/hr. Gal comes to your hotel or home and you enjoy a full hour of safe sex and enjoyable intimacy. In smaller cities such as Victoria, B.C, Hamilton and Niagara Falls its typically $160-180-200/hr pricing. Beatuiful women either indedendents or maybe 75% in the cities mentioned via agencies who take about 40% of the fee, have websites with the gals schedules and pictures, screen clients, book appoitments and provide a driver to pick up the gal usually at her home, bring her to the clients hotel/home and then pick her up. The gal calls when she gets in the room to the agency to confirm all is well and about 5 minutes before the hour is up, the agency or driver calls the gal as a 5 minute warning on cell phone. It really works very nicely and lots of women perfer this type of arrangement at far more pay and flexibility with their time than a normal low paying time clock type job.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/19/2006 1:00:07 PM
Obviously someone in social work sees the bad side as you do. I host the Phoenix Private List since 1996 which is a weekly e-mail list of information, reviews etc. We have over 200 local professional sexwork providers and about 300 guys. Very few have any drug issues and they are all consenting adults in sexwork by choice. Likewise huge Canadian sites again very sharp sexworkers. In Victoria, B.C. the agency incalls with great gals most helping to pay for their college education. Too bad you see so much negative when you only see the bad side because its the street hooker types that are most seen not the private providers that would never dream of putting themselves at risk on the streets. They choose who to see, and what to do and most always use condoms. Far less health risk than picking up a gal in a bar. Too bad especially in the U.S. the religious right groups have made sex so dirty you have to save it for marriage, be sexually ignorant and with only one person. Totally unnatural but lots of folks have been indoctinated that way. Would I prostute myself you ask? Sure safely with dignity, if there was a demand by women but its almost impossible for a male sexworker to be successful unless he is gay or bi, which I am not. There simply is nothing wrong with consenting adult sexworkers who are often sexual healers and teachers which our culture needs so badly.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/19/2006 8:31:28 AM
What on earth does drugs have to do with professional sexwork? All you folks are talking about is street hookers, very very different than the typical professional sexworker. On many of the Canadian boards maybe 25% of tens of thousands of participates are the sexworkers, proad of their profession, not on drugs, not abused as children etc. Sadly the public gets the wraped view of the more visible street hooker not the professional sexworker. No, not all sexworkers are perfect... but their "problems" tend to be no differerent than the general population. Clearly it should be a women's choice and not illegal as it is in the U.S. vs most of the rest of the world for consenting adult private at least outcall. I have no financial interest in sexwork, it grew from my working with couples groups with Liberated Christians and the problem what to do with single men since so few single women in polyamory/swinging and single guys need sexual outlets also. That lead me mostly to Canada and the zillions of educated mostly in college professional private legal sexworkers.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/19/2006 5:12:03 AM
When they are 18 if I lived in Canada or most any place in the world except the U.S. I woule have no problem discussing it with a daughter. Not in the U.S. only because of the unique legal risks vs most of the rest of the world.

Dave in Phoenix

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What Happened To Being Celibate? Posted: 5/19/2006 5:10:23 AM
To me being celibate is an abuse of the body since at puberty it is designed to be sexual. It is an abuse of the body with medical complications that can result in not using the body as God and nature intended. I was celibate as a very conservative Christian teen many eons ago. But nature revolted by my abusing my body by not being sexual and had wet dreams that became very painful as was my first experience of sex. Later I found out that I had prostate blockage from not using my body as God designed it which is to have sexual orgasms. Good sexual skills are learned especially how to provide the greatest pleasure from a women. I get a lot of e-mails from a Christian site I guess I can't mention here even though its a public service, non commercial site where many women have told me the worst thing they had done is not have more sexual experience before marriage. They now find themselves in a unfulfilled physical relationship with a clueless partner. To me self respect includes having good sexual skills and not being sexually igorant. And you don't learn sexual skills effectively from a book, you learn from others that have good skills. And not being sexual is unnatural. Dave in Phoenix

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Posted: 5/19/2006 2:57:48 AM
There is no biblical basis for the anti-sexual traditions taught by tradition bound Christian Churches. We have a huge section "The Bible, Christianity & Sexual Issues" at http://www.libchrist.com/bible/contents.html which goes into great depth on all the issues. The only prostitutes condemned in the Bible are those who were priests and priestesses to other gods. Regarding prostitution: "Common" Prostitution Is Not A Biblical Conflict Just like with other sexually repressive teachings of traditional Christianity much of what you think you know about biblical issues is based on traditional teachings that have no biblical basis. Just as tradition has twisted the original texts to try and argue that singles sexuality is wrong, or that swinging is adultery, they have also hijacked the real meaning of biblical prostitution and how it applies today. Cultic Prostitution Biblically cultic prostitution is clearly wrong. Cultic prostitution uses sex as idolatrous worship of the pagan goddess, such as the fertility Gods which the TEMPLE prostitutes had "johns" worshipping by having sex in the Corinthian temples which was what Paul so strongly preached against. Yes these prostitutes were worshipping the pagan goddesses in the Jewish Temples! Clearly we can understand why this was so upsetting! It as a clear violation of the First Commandment which requires no other gods before the one true God. In New Testament times, Venus and Aphrodite were the main gods of the Corinthian pagans. The temple of Venus was one of the most magnificent buildings in the city and the temple employed over 1000 prostitutes, which were paid for with public funds. Their purpose was to serve men in worship of the fertility gods so their feeds and cattle would be fertile. In Old Testament times, the Canaanites worshipped Baal was the Canaanite god of fertility and Astarte, love goddess of the Phoenicians. It was wrong for the children of Israel to go "a-whoring after other gods" which were these cultic prostitutes. From "Halley's Bible Handbook" 1 Cor. 6: 9-20; "Venus was the principal Deity of Corinth. Her temple was one of the most magnificent buildings in the city. In it a thousand Priestesses, Public Prostitutes, were kept, at public expense, there always ready for Immoral Indulgence, as worship to their Goddess." The Christians continued to go to the temple for sexual indulgences with the priestesses of Venus. This was all Paul was talking about and he says nothing about loving sexual pleasure-sharing with non-goddesses'! Greek travel-writer, Strabo (ca. 64 Bc-AD 21), regarding ancient Corinth writes: "And the temple of Aphrodite [in Corinth] was so rich that it owned more than a thousand temple-slaves, courtesans (hetairai ), whom both women and men had dedicated to the goddess. And therefore it was also on account of these women that the city was crowded with people and grew rich" (8.6.20; LCL trans.). Non Goddess Prostitutes in the Bible Since men could have as many wives and concubines (for breeding or just sexual enjoyment) as they could afford it may have been only the poorer men who would need prostitutes for sexual variety. They couldn't afford the "upkeep" of wives or concubines so they went to prostitutes for sexual pleasure and release. Prostitution in Hebrew society was morally censored at times for legitimate reasons such as the knowing who would own the resulting children, with no effective birth control, but it was not illegal or a sin. Only Israelite priests were prohibited from marrying a prostitute. Listed as wrongs for which God will judge is trading "a boy for a harlot" (Joel 3:3). But being a prostitute (harlot or zonah in Hebrew) herself, if single, is guilty of no biblical crime unless she is a priest's daughter, in which case says Lev 21:9 she "profaneth her father" and "shall be burnt with fire." Prostitution was common in biblical times. In Proverbs men are warned against squandering their money foolishly on prostitutes. But it was a money issue not morality. There was no law against prostitution for non-Hebrew women. Today prostitution flourishes in Israel. Prostitution is not, and has never been, a crime under Israeli law. Some of the world's most popular brothels are in Tel Aviv. For Hebrew women it was very important to have a husband to have children with to maintain the Hebrew people. It was never considered adultery for a man, married or single, to have sex with a prostitute, as long as she was single (not owned by another man). It was only wrong if it was for the purpose of pagan goddess worship. Judah saw nothing wrong in hiring a prostitute for the night. Rahab "the harlot" was praised in Hebrews 11:31 and Jos 6:17 as an example of faith. Rahab was praised because she helped Israelite spies whom she hid and helped escape but the mention of her as "the harlot" wasn't a negative reference. In Hosea 1:3, God commanded Hosea to marry a prostitute named Gomez. In Hosea 4:15, God said he would not punish the daughters of Israel when they turned to prostitution. (Someone Commented: These passages are allegories to Gods relationships with Israel, which at the time wasn't exactly good. The Hosea 4:15 reference I believe is saying that though Israel in general is acting as a harlot, Judah (one tribe of Israel) is not. EG, all of the tribes except Judah are acting as harlots. I think some of this could possibly support the notion that there was clearly a double standard - one for men, and another for women. And it certainly seems to be stating that it's not OK for women to cheat.) And men could always cheat as long as the "other women" was not married (owned by husband). Other prostitutes mentioned in the Old Testament were the harlot of Gaza, whom Samson visited, and two squabbling prostitutes who asked Solomon to settle a dispute. It is simply reported the fact that they were prostitutes, no big deal, nothing is ever said in condemnation of their profession. In fact the Hebrew judge Solomon may have done more whoring than judging (Judg 16:1-4), and Jacobs son Judah, mistaking his own veiled daughter-in-law for a harlot, hired her as a prostitute (Gen 38: 13-18). The leader Gilead fathered Jephthah by a prostitute which resulted in Jephthah's half-brothers, when dividing up the inheritance, left Jephthah out (Judg 11: 1-2). Proverbs obviously views the foreign prostitute unsympathetically (oppressor, not victim) who with superior wealth and astuteness manages to seduce simple Israelite boys and husbands. In this trajectory we may also read Paul's treatment in 1 Cor. 6:9-20, where Christian men (especially husbands, whose wives may have taken vows of sexual abstinence to pray, 7:5) are warned against uniting with prostitutes. As perhaps in Proverbs, the prostitutes apparently are viewed as manifesting the demonic forces of pagan religion (cf. 10:18-22). Christians are exhorted to "flee" both the prostitutes and their idolatrous religion (6:18; 10:14). How Jesus would have managed to become a "friend" of prostitutes by continually "fleeing" from them, traditional sex-negative Augustinian commentators never tell us. Since wealthy men didn't need prostitutes (they had plenty of wives and concubines) prostitution was certainly not a high Noble calling. But there clearly was nothing immoral or wrong from a biblical prospective with non-goddess prostitution. Today many men have little opportunity for sexual fulfillment so prostitutes are the only viable option. Sexual frustration results in men that become aggressive and are far more likely to sexually harass, abuse or rape women than men who are sexually happy and fulfilled. Legal Prostitution in the Bible reflects the cultures double standard that while a wife must be faithful, a Hebrew man can have sex with an unmarried prostitute, or any other single woman, and not be committing adultery. But if the woman is a wife -owned by her husband under the patriarchal system of the Hebrews - then both she and her sexual partners are adulterers, a crime for which the penalty is death (Lev 20:10; Deut. 22:22). In New Testament times, there also was nothing said about prostitution being wrong and in fact Jesus makes the point that harlots who believed John the Baptist will enter the kingdom of God before the chief priests and elders who rejected John's message (Matt. 21:31-32). Today prostitution is not pagan idolatry nor the concubines of biblical times - women as breeders and for sexual pleasure. And nowhere in the Bible is a word said about that being wrong!! Today many women enjoy providing intimacy and sexual pleasure to men based on their choice without being owned as concubines for men and of course always using safe sex to avoid "breeding" and so its a very healthy interaction both physically and emotionally.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/19/2006 2:45:58 AM
yes millions of college gals etc choose sexwork because they enjoy it. You only hear the horror stories usually about the drugged out street hooker which is maybe 10% of prostitution. I have zillions of e-mails from sexworkers from my site sexwork.com, here is just one example that sum it up for so many professional consenting adult sexworkers. This is from a Dallas sexworker: "It's absolutely ridiculous that it's an illegal profession, because the guys I see are so normal and just want some company, to see someone's "smile" and warmth...and of course the sex...usually they are not getting elsewhere. I see this occupation as very healthy since it provides so much to a man and the woman also. Not often can the man find the convenience of a woman who is sexy and willing to cater undivided attention to his desires and the woman able to fulfill her most needed financial desires. And both are usually/hopefully smiling and happy with the experience...for myself, I am elated to have someone so pleased with me, and also because I have usually made his happiest part of the week or month...whatever it be. As the old saying goes when someone has an awesome experience, "this should be a crime"...did someone think that was meant to be literal?? I'm really into thinking good about yourself. I think this business should be a win-win situation for everyone. Since you are into counseling, you know what I mean. That's really my intention...and I do offer my friendship to my clients. This business really gets bad hype, but it is so ironic that I have found it for me and my clients to be such an uplifting experience. Besides from the (legal) risks, I think it to be one of the most positive jobs there is."

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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Should they legalize prostitution? Posted: 5/19/2006 2:41:01 AM
Section 213 of the Canadian Criminal Code is only about solicitation in a public PLACE like on a street or lobby of a hotel. There is even a court case that tossed a soliciation charge when it was in a very secluded road where there was an expectation of privacy. Ads for sexwork/prostitution on the web, in newspapers, on the phone are 100% legal and always have been in Canada. Outcall of course is 100% legal. Incall (bawdy) is illegal due to 1850's law but rarely enforced. In fact in Victoria all the agencies have incalls. They are licensed by the city as are the workers and the police come by periodically just to be sure everyone is licensed. They know its better to have incalls violating bawdy than street hookers. Bawdy is rarely enforced unless other real crimes involved or neighbor complaints. Canadian laws are similar to most of the world except the U.S. where all is illegal other than in the terrible government pimp houses in outstate Nevada. In the U.S. we need decriminalization not the terrible legalization situation in Nevada where women are virtually prisoners in the houses and prices are far higher than anywhere else in the world. The big issue in Canada, as in most of the world, is the public nuisance street hookers, and their organizations demanding the "right" to be a public nuisance. This has been tried by having "zones" in much of Europe and all have been terrible failtures. Sexwork should be a legitimate honored profession as it has in times past in many cultures. But that also comes with respect of the citizens right not to have it in their face on the public streets. That is why soliciting law in public places in Canada. It use to be you just about had to attack a person and demand they pay for sex to be arrested on the streets of Canada under the prior soliciation law.

Dave in Phoenix

Joined: 5/19/2006

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I'm thinking of relocating into the Phoenix area and wondering if there's any problem with roaches.. Posted: 5/19/2006 2:29:16 AM
I've seen huge rouches in driveway of new patio home in Camelback area - had no idea what that monster was when I first moved here. But rarely see them. I came from Minneapolis and I agree NO MOSQUITOS is far more a benefit than a few harmless roaches or yes, termites. Of course if your near the outskirts closer to Mountains you do have to watch out for snakes and coyetes (animal kind) but not in the city itself. I miss the tall oak/pine/elm tree lined streets of Minneapolis suburbs where I lived all my live until I moved to Pheonix about 20 years ago (yes I'm ancient), but here enjoy the Palm Trees, Mountains and 9 months of wonderful weather. In June-August I take lots of trips to Canada since its so hot here. But much nicer than say Minnesota with only a few months that are nice vs either very cold or hot and humid. 85F in Mpls with 80% humidity is miserable while under 100 or so with our very low humidity feels much cooler. But at 110+ it is HOT, but only about 3 months of that kind of heat...and no cold...or snow :( Dave in Phoenix

Dave in Phoenix

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Is orgasm everything or optional for a man? Posted: 5/19/2006 2:17:08 AM
Even though now I'm an older ancient man, I have always enjoyed the high touch caring intimacy aspect of sex more than just having orgasms. Even in my younger days it took a lot of stimulation for me to cum. Now, I almost never cum from sex, other than masturbation. I see it as an advantage. I can enjoy long intimate sessions, that most women enjoy and often they have to have in order for them to cum. I do not try not to cum and I can cum fine via maturbation because its harder stimulation than from a vagina. There is one position that is the only one I rarely but sometimes cum in having sex and that is full body man on top hard to describe - easier to show than tell :).. that also provides lots of G spot stimulation to the women.

Dave in Phoenix

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Are all prostitutes the same? Posted: 5/19/2006 2:07:27 AM
Most people when they hear "prostitute" think of the street hooker or the desperate women on drugs etc. That is maybe 10% of prostitution Sexworkers a preferred term for the professional consenting adult workers which make up maybe 90% of "prostitution" are maybe 50% college education, may who see sexwork as the healing profession it can be that benefits most cultures. Most are not sexually abused women to be pitied like society and the religious groups try and make them out as. Private consenting adult sexwork is legal in virtually all the world except the U.S., where are sex repressive laws are largely controlled by the religious right groups who know what is best for us. However their sex negative ideas have no biblical basis, since "common prostitution" was not wrong all the way back in biblical times. I personally enjoy Canada a close example where consenting adults have the sexual freedoms we are denied in the U.S. I have decades of experince both with Christian sexual issues and sexwork viewed and promoted as a positive healing profession.

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