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 forums1
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Heartbroken today...
Posted: 5/24/2013 5:42:42 AM
I know "pet people" will understand... I had 'adopted' an abandoned cat 2 years ago, after a bit of a struggle with him adapting to the two I already had, he turned into a total sweetheart - I'd wake up in the morning with him on top of me kneading away at the blankets and purring his heart out... but being abandoned he was very much independent and liked going out to explore (usually only for a couple hours).

I let him out Wednesday night, and then got something to eat and laid back in bed for a bit with a new book to read a bit, when I heard cat/animal fighting outside the window (not cat/cat, definitely another animal), I ran to the door and outside to hear the cat screams die off as they moved across my back yard into the woods... not like a cat running off, but like a cat being killed in the mouth of a larger animal...

... been reports of coyotes getting pets recently in the area, I'm pretty certain he was carried off as 'coyote dinner', no sign of him since...

I'm heartbroken over it... I've had lots of pets, and lost them due to illness or old age (or both) over the years, put them to sleep rather than let them suffer of course... and I've had them get in fights and get hurt - but I've always felt like I've "been there" for them to the end (like you can't 'cure' old age, or cancer, or whatever, but you do what you can)... but this is the first time I've ever dealt with losing one as 'dinner' to another animal.

I know I'll get over it, eventually, but it raises the question of how much harder it is to deal with a sudden loss (of animal or human, anyone you care about), vs. having the time to 'prepare', knowing they're sick or getting old, and it's going to happen... this is much harder, no illness (he was only maybe 7), just there and then... gone. Thoughts?
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Msg: 121 (view)
 
Letter from Markus
Posted: 5/24/2013 5:25:22 AM


By the way, the Daily Mail's love affair with Markus was short-lived..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2329469/Mother-Susan-Hulbert-Birmingham-hospitalised-online-date-Gavin-Taylor-met-plenty-fish-blasts-Telford-Magistrates-Court.html

But...but...how could that happen? There was only a 3 year age difference.


There must be some mistake, that's not possible... the only "losers" that might treat a woman that badly are 15+ years outside her age. Marcus says so.
 forums1
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Msg: 473 (view)
 
Message Restrictions
Posted: 5/23/2013 10:38:16 AM
Let's face reality here people. The MAJORITY of girls on this site don't want old men messaging them. If you can't see that, you must be blind. The bulk of the complaints here are from men. Get over yourselves people. If you want to message girls outside of this 14 year age range, then go to another site. Markus already explained how rare it is on this site for anybody outside of the +-12 year age range to have a relationship. So he went above and beyond 12 years and made it 14. I like it. He answered the exact complaints that women were having.


Ok, well lets face reality here - the site, before these changes, let anyone set age ranges on their account - so the 20y/o women complaining about getting emails from 50y/o guys could quite simply have set their age restriction to "nobody over 34" and voila!!! Nobody more than 14yrs older!!! Wow, that was tough wasn't it??

So those who were complaining about getting mails from "too old or too young" simply were no using the feature that was *already there* and available to them to stop that. We need to implement the "nanny state" to do it for them? Are we saying that women are too stupid to figure out how to do this using the filters that were already available to them? Seriously? I'm not sure I like the idea of "the nanny site/state" telling me "you are too stupid to decide that for yourself", but that's most certainly the message being sent.
 forums1
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Msg: 459 (view)
 
Message Restrictions
Posted: 5/23/2013 4:06:54 AM
So pretty much all this does is say to delete your current account (if POF didn't do it for you) and:

1) if you are married, or separated say you are single. (a lot of people did this anyways)
2) if you are looking for IE, say you are looking for LTR or dating.
3) if you're 50 and want to date 35y/o's, set your profile to say you are 40.

For all the complaints about 50y/o guys creating profiles that say they are younger, this does *NOTHING* to solve that problem, in fact it will only make it worse. For all the complaints about how people lie about their intentions in their profiles, this will only make it worse.

And as far as I know POF has never had a policy of deleting profiles just because someone happens to report that profile as being someone who lied about their age, or marital status, or whatever - because doing so would be doing so entirely on heresay, with no actual proof of the accuser being right. And should they start doing that, the only thing it would really accomplish is a lot of bitter people saying that "userA" is lying about "X" on their profile and should be deleted... ie, I could accuse anyone of lying about anything and get them deleted.

Really, this solves nothing and actually will only serve to *increase* the number of people with false/misleading things on their profile, pretty much making the site more worthless for people looking to date, rather than less.

Good work on implementing a technical solution to a societal problem!! Now can you implement a piece of code to solve world hunger too? How about a software solution to child abuse? Because if you can solve people lying in software, you should be able to fix those too!
 forums1
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Msg: 409 (view)
 
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 5/22/2013 8:38:41 AM
Quite honestly while I really have no interest in dating someone +/- 14yrs from me, I don't appreciate someone else thinking they should make that decision *for* me. I'm really only here for the forums anymore anyways, so I don't have any age restrictions up - and have gotten emails from people >14yrs from me wanting to talk, commenting on a forum post I made, etc - now that option is being taken away from people.

While Markus might think "nobody" is going to date 14yrs outside their age, some people do... and shouldn't that be *THEIR CHOICE* (as it was anyways for them to put age restrictions on their profile if they wanted) rather than the choice of the "Nanny admin"?
 forums1
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Msg: 19 (view)
 
Things men and women don’t know about each other?
Posted: 5/15/2013 7:19:54 PM
More stupid generalizations, probably written by a woman for both since the women's list starts with:

"1 - No two of us are the same"

And yet somehow that isn't there on the men's list... because, of course, we're "all the same" right?

Men's list #4 is probably right for both genders: "We're not mind readers, but we are perceptive. We can usually tell when something's bothering you, but we need you to tell us what it is." - yup... and "Nothing" is probably not the best of answers nor does it equate to good communication.

For the rest of the men's list, no, I don't really want her help with the Ikea furniture (not that I'd want Ikea anyways), I don't have a "favorite team" of any sport (never been into sports) - and I think it's pretty stupid when people say "our" team lost - really dude? 'Cause I didn't see you out on the field, only the sofa, with a beer in your hand.
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Msg: 146 (view)
 
Date With Single Mom Went Horribly Wrong
Posted: 5/5/2013 10:24:24 PM
The reality is that this has nothing to do with her being a 'single mom'... I've dated a few, and they kept me at a distance from the kids for a while, which I found fully appropriate. The fact that she would bring her kids on a date with a guy she's never met before in person should give you all you need to go on.. which is.. run...
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Msg: 78 (view)
 
Women Pushing 40...Or Over
Posted: 5/5/2013 8:40:19 PM
The 20-40 year old group has sex on their side, but the 40-60 year old group has sex appeal on their side. Nothing is sexier than a smart, witty partner. I love guys, all guys, all ages and I can't imagine a planet without them. But I only date guys in the 40-60 range because the younger ones just aren't sexy to me.


Well, I dunno, I think its more about 'compatibility' than age at "this age" (49 in a few months). Reality is, "sex appeal" is great and all, but it's not going to last beyond the bedroom and a few months, and if that's all you are looking for then all the more power to you... but that's not what I'm really looking for.

That being said, I don't necessarily have a 'set' age limit... I mean, in general I'd say +/- 8yrs or so, but that doesn't mean I'd reject the 'perfect' 39y/o because she's a year outside my "limit", or the 'perfect' 58y/o for the same. Reality is, it's about how the two people in question 'click' together, which is far more vague than an 'age limit'. (not that anyone is 'perfect', but it expresses the idea...)
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Of which astrological sign are most divorced people?
Posted: 5/2/2013 5:15:35 AM
The most common astrological planetary combination for divorced people is "moon boot impacts uranus" as as one kicks the other persons a** out the door, usually followed by the mystical sign of the raised-middle-finger. All of this is usually preceded by a dramatic re-enactment of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe", and occasionally with one or both of the people experiencing seeing 'stars' (from the impact of various flying items).

The final event is celebrated by a man in a black robe well versed in Latin phrases issuing a written decree proclaiming both of them thoroughly disillusioned... or something like that.
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Msg: 32 (view)
 
Out of the Blue Call
Posted: 5/1/2013 5:55:01 AM
I find this kinda funny simply because it's him (and quite possibly her) both sitting around "wondering" how the other person feels. She took the initiative to try and contact him, meaning there must be some glimmer of 'interest' I would think, his response was to post this thread (again, some glimmer of 'interest' there to even do that), and then they have this stellar conversation (via text no less):

Me: Hello, I was kinda surprised to get your text. I had assumed that I wouldn't be hearing from you again.
Her: You crossed my mind and I just wanted to say "hello'. I had a lot going on over the past few months. I'm glad all is well with you.
Me: Same to you.


From which of course he's still left wondering what the heck is going on... because he didn't bother to actually communicate anything more.

Here's a hint for you OP, if you really want answers, then you need to work on actually communicating with the person who has them. If you aren't interested in the answers, then don't communicate at all - however it *seems* that you would rather sit in your head spinning around on what things "might" mean and posting threads asking the same of people who know even *less* about the people involved than you do (ie, we don't know her at all, and only know about you what you've posted). I would venture to say this is not a 'skill' that will serve you well in relationships.
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Msg: 96 (view)
 
He acted like he was doing me a favour by dating me.
Posted: 5/1/2013 5:43:17 AM
Sounds like a bit of an a** to me. Especially doing that in public.

I wouldn't consider a single parent/ having children a "bad situation", and especially in early dating/first date, I mean c'mon - you aren't living together, your finances are your own business/problem really, and if you can't afford it you shouldn't be dating (or offering dutch).

That being said, there are of course things I would consider (for them) a "bad situation" - ie, they got into a car accident while we were dating and say broke their wrist or something, I'm naturally going to probably do all the driving for dates if need be, hold doors and carry things as appropriate... doesn't mean helping financially, but you accommodate their injury. I wouldn't be "touting" it though as doing something "over and above" to help her out though, it should just be a natural response to someone you care about being injured. But then, there's a difference between a "pet project" and someone you care about *temporarily* needing a little help.
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Msg: 316 (view)
 
People who are here only for the forums
Posted: 4/29/2013 10:22:55 PM
If I was looking, my profile would say so... last 'date' off here I changed myself to 'not single/not looking', we actually used to chat about topics that came up on the forums (both 'forum junkies'). Honestly, I've never cheated, and if "she" mistrusts me enough that she thinks I would after knowing me, we shouldn't be dating.

Single again, but not looking... I just got notified I'm out of a job end of May, and honestly I've been thinking about moving across country anyways, so maybe it's just the 'push' I need to do something about it... but no point in looking to date here if I'm going to be moving - wouldn't be fair to the other person, and I'll probably be too busy in other ways to really have time for it anyways. So, yup, forums only for a while at least...
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I just ended a relationship, and I think I've made a terrible mistake...
Posted: 4/29/2013 11:23:59 AM

All I wanted to be able to spend more time with her so that we could discover new interests/hobbies together and grow.


I do enjoy when I read something like that and... the "solution" to not spending enough time together is... to end it (and thus not spend *any* time together).

There's obviously more going on that just that.
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Msg: 14 (view)
 
He's going back to his ex but wants to remain friends
Posted: 4/28/2013 9:55:06 AM

And what do you think about a woman who says she loves a man but refuses to take his name even though that's a criteria for marrying


Who says it is a "criteria" for marrying? 100 years ago, maybe, but times have changed, and quite honestly I'd rather see a woman keep her own name than do the stupid hyphenated "Hi I'm Sue Maiden-Married" deal (or vice versa, but seriously, Smith-Wajowski or Wajowski-Smith, either way seems pretty silly - why change names at all?).

And really, why would/should you care? He doesn't want you, he wants her, and what she chooses to do in *their* relationship is really none of *your* business... him being ok with it (or not) is all that matters to *their* relationship.


I think it would be healthiest but hardest in the short run to cut contact.


Most definitely.
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Msg: 6 (view)
 
Complimenting appearance
Posted: 4/22/2013 10:17:12 PM

(I didn't last night)

If it were really genuine you would have then and there.
No matter how you put it, after the fact, is going to sound a bit contrived.
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Msg: 73 (view)
 
P2P.. Really?!!? Not that desperate
Posted: 4/20/2013 11:03:39 PM

My wife has said she is happy. She said she loves me. She said she doesn’t want a divorce. I have found a solution that takes nothing away from her nor requires anything of her. Furthermore, it has quieted my “inner feelings”, for lack of better terminology. If I was conscious of it, it had to have been affecting me on a subconscious level, as well.


So your wife is happy, loves you, and doesn't want a divorce... even knowing that you are having sex with another woman? Or, wait, are you saying she *doesn't* know, and you are doing it behind her back, justifying that it "takes nothing away from her nor requires anything of her"? 'Cause if that is the case, well, it takes 'honesty' about your relationship away from her, and requires that she keep trusting someone who is lying to her and cheating behind her back.
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Msg: 99 (view)
 
why do women play hard to get in online dating? its a reason your on here!
Posted: 4/20/2013 1:06:56 PM
You are mistaken, OP... they aren't playing "hard to get", they simply aren't all that interested in dating you.
Trust me, if you were "all that", charming and well dressed with six pack abs and she wanted you - there would be no "hard to get".
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Msg: 97 (view)
 
Pissed, Played and Out for revenge...Or not?
Posted: 4/17/2013 9:53:05 PM
My god OP, I read your other thread you started... you went on *one* date with this guy, he spent (according to you) $150 on dinner, plus you went to a movie (and made out with him, from your description it sounded, um, "mutually enjoyable"?)... and you didn't have sex...

... so he's out $150 for dinner, plus I'm guessing maybe he paid for the movie? And you're pissed off that he decided he wasn't interested after and you haven't heard from him since? You want to "even the score" - Seriously??

I'm thinking he made a really good choice. Maybe if you really wanted to "even the score" you could send him a few $$ for that nice dinner he bought you, I mean, your only "encounter" was a nice dinner and some making out in the theater - which it sounded like you enjoyed... so you enjoyed dinner, you enjoyed the make out session, and then when he decided not to go further (which is the *point* of meeting someone, to see if you think you 'click' together), you get all pissy about it? I suppose, of course, if you had decided you really weren't interested in him after, that would have been perfectly ok.

Seriously, you were looking for a "shot at love" and maybe he was too, just it wasn't *you*. You're just pissed off that you liked him and he didn't like you - c'est la vie, that's what dating is about - that's why most people her will tell you *not* to spend "2 months" chatting online before meeting, because *until you meet in person* all you have done is build up an "internet fantasy relationship" in your head. He didn't meet your fantasy - *tough*.
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Msg: 31 (view)
 
Sperm & Egg Donors: How would this effect your feelings?
Posted: 4/17/2013 9:28:56 PM
I would only care if the man Im dating could potentially have children/lawyers knocking on the door years later because someone dropped the legal ball. So long as this has been addressed legally, it would not matter to me. Just would not be cool to start a new life, set a budget for that and then find out one of us owes thousands of dollars in child support because the couple who took the donated sperm/egg brpke up and the kids become wards of the state/province and the state/provonce wants $$.


In relation to that one, OP, here's a link for you (this is the case mentioned by Proteaus):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255241/Sperm-donor-ordered-pay-child-support-lesbian-couple-despite-giving-rights-child.html

And to "jojoaus", it doesn't matter as this guy found out, because the mother applied for state aid, *regardless* of whether she wanted to go after him or not (she didn't), the *state* went after him - because if she's collecting from the state, they can go after him to collect.
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P2P.. Really?!!? Not that desperate
Posted: 4/17/2013 5:12:49 AM
And here being a IT/computer geek, I thought "P2P" meant "peer-to-peer", like eDonkey or Torrent filesharing.

Or maybe "person-to-person", like a phone call.
Sigh, this younger generation, I dunno what to think anymore...
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Msg: 22 (view)
 
No I love you, and b/f still on POF while in relationship - Help!
Posted: 4/17/2013 5:05:47 AM
1) We did the whole "I love you" thing not too long ago, but he never says it first, and when I say it, he just replies, "You too." We talked about it and he says he does love me, he just doesn't like to say it, and my instinct is to call BS. Am I being petty?


You ever heard the phrase "actions speak louder than words"?

I might relate to you the woman I dated, and lived with, who was telling me how much she loved me and I was her "soulmate" and the only person she'll ever have "that connection with"... as the U-Haul was all packed and she was getting ready to drive it over the house of the guy she'd been cheating on me with. Um, yeah, ok.. ripped my heart out but she "loves" me and I'm her "soulmate", uh huh...

Several people mentioned you having an active profile... whereas, you said yourself, his is hidden, and he's not messaging anyone. Hmm. As to him coming on and browsing, does he read the forums at all? And, well, if I was with a woman who was constantly questioning my commitment and expecting me to cater to her every insecurity, I might be occasionally seeing what else is out there too, personally. Life is too short to be jumping through hoops trying to hold on to someone who is so insecure they suspect you of everything no matter what you do.


Has anybody dealt with this kind of stuff before?


Yes, from his side.


Should I quit while I'm ahead? I'm really torn, because I could see myself being with this guy for a long time, but I don't want to spend a lot of time in the wrong place.


If I was him, and I was reading this thread, I'd be quitting while I was ahead - someone who airs their "dirty laundry" about our relationship, while *in it*, to a bunch of random strangers on the internet, for all posterity to see, rather than trying to work it out with me, isn't really someone I'd want to be in a relationship with.
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Msg: 41 (view)
 
Viagra And Divorce: A link?
Posted: 4/15/2013 10:39:46 PM
Perhaps the question we should be asking is, “Why is the destruction of a marriage blamed on the one who seeks to fulfill their needs outside the marriage rather than blamed on the partner who can’t or refuses to fulfill those needs?


I wasn't trying to "blame" Dave, I was just curious since the initial discussion was about Viagra, and it would seem a poor justification to be using Viagra as an 'excuse' for cheating when knowing the wife isn't interested (even if her own decision not to do HRT). Just would seem a 'poor decision' to be popping Viagra and walking around with a hard-on knowing the wife wasn't interested - if one isn't, that is an entirely different situation.

And the simple answer to your question quoted above is, the classic marriage vow of "in sickness and in health", obviously. One could argue the wife who won't seek help has a 'sickness', and isn't seeking to help it. Then again, the obvious argument is, if the husband doesn't at least *try* to get her to counseling, to consider perhaps alternative options (homeopathic (?) options/exercise/?), that he is failing in his part of that. It would be considered the "fault" of the person seeking to fulfill those needs outside the marriage *because* they are not 'honoring' the terms of the marriage... the one choosing to do that should take one of two options:

1) leave the marriage.
2) talk to their partner about their needs, and be honest, and if the partner says it is ok for them to seek 'sex' (their 'fulfillment') outside the marriage - then that I actually wouldn't consider an issue - the non-interested partner has a choice.

What the problem is, is when the person wanting sex is "sneaking around" behind their partners back - because the *ONLY* reason for doing this is that they *KNOW* that it would hurt their partner if they were to find out. In simple terms, they are doing something that would hurt their partner, knowingly, behind their back, secretively. That, at it's most basic level is not "love" but "selfishness". It isn't "cheating" if the other person knows (even if they tell you they don't want to know any specifics), it is "cheating" when you are selfishly sneaking around behind their back.
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Msg: 32 (view)
 
Viagra And Divorce: A link?
Posted: 4/14/2013 8:04:23 PM
Well, just a guess OP, but perhaps you used to post on here as Dave1234? Same location, same age, retired, married, and from years past roughly the same story....

Anyways, I'm curious... because you started this thread talking about Viagra, and mentioning "if medication results in an erection it's difficult to ignore it", testosterone increasing medication, etc... and now with your last post you're talking about a wife who "he" loves, who loves him back, and yet she isn't interested in sex... and she doesn't want to take hormone replacement because of it's risk and her history... ok, I can see that (there are risks, especially if there's a family history of cancer).

But then one would have to ask, if the man in question here is taking Viagra and/or testosterone (the initial "thrust" - haha - of this thread)? And if so, and he loves his wife, why would he take said medication (which also has *it's* risks for men - if I recall Viagra can cause eyesight issues from the "increased blood pressure" , and testosterone also has its cancer risks related to prostate cancer)? Seems to me, if he loved his wife that much, he would choose not to take medication that gets him 'worked up like a horny dog' and wanting to stray??

If I was taking something that wasn't medically necessary for basic living/survival (ie, insulin for diabetes, etc), and in fact has it's risks to my health, and it was destroying my marriage/relationship with someone I truly loved... I think I'd stop taking it? At the least I wouldn't be trying to use *it* as some justification for straying or leaving the relationship.
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Msg: 134 (view)
 
Why do Men of a Certain Age HATE Facebook?
Posted: 4/14/2013 5:52:37 PM
posting will never get you in trouble UNLESS what you are posting is wrong to start with...ie you have to be doing something wrong


Senator Joe McCarthy? Is that you? I hope that's just a disguise, otherwise you might be exhibiting some communist leanings with those dresses and such. And obviously everyone you accused back in the 50's was guilty of doing something wrong... nobody in all of history has ever been accused of wrongdoing unjustly.
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Msg: 12 (view)
 
Women Pushing 40...Or Over
Posted: 4/14/2013 2:06:14 PM
Well, if they are looking for "marriage and children", maybe... just being realistic, it is riskier for women the more over 40 they get (not saying impossible, just the risks rise), and honestly most "unattached" men past 40 have experienced a divorce (or two, or 3 ), might still be paying child support, lost a chunk of money in a divorce, and aren't going to be rushing to get married & having more kids to support.

As far as the first part, "easy prey"... I personally don't think so. I would think harder, since they've got more experience in life and aren't as 'young and optimistic' as they used to be.

edit: although someone brought up 'desperation' - that could play a factor in her being 'more vulnerable', if she's rushing to make 'a choice, any choice, even a bad one' because of the 'biological clock' ticking. But that I would have to say isn't something "all women pushing 40" would have (those that don't want children, or have had them and don't want more - it wouldn't apply to).
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Msg: 28 (view)
 
Viagra And Divorce: A link?
Posted: 4/14/2013 2:00:32 PM

I don't know about the 4-hour erections haha My only experience with a guy who used viagra was that he complained of a headache for 3-4 days after he took it. Gradually, we just quit having sex because I got tired of his whining. And he seemed perfectly OK with that.


We, as men, of course have no experience with the phrase "not tonight, I have a headache".
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Msg: 132 (view)
 
Why do Men of a Certain Age HATE Facebook?
Posted: 4/14/2013 12:57:13 PM

For educational purposes only. I found it interesting, and thought others might as well.

Paranoid Personality Disorder
By Psych Central Staff

People with paranoid personality disorder are generally characterized by having a long-standing pattern of pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others. A person with paranoid personality disorder will nearly always believe that other people's motives are suspect or even malevolent.

...


So I guess it would be Paranoid of me to suggest that someone who thinks they are an armchair psychiatrist, could be:


Grandiosity is chiefly associated with narcissistic personality disorder, but also commonly features in manic or hypomanic episodes of bipolar disorder.

It refers to an unrealistic sense of superiority, a sustained view of oneself as better than others that causes the narcissist to view others with disdain or as inferior. It also refers to a sense of uniqueness, the belief that few others have anything in common with oneself and that one can only be understood by a few or very special people.


But hey, maybe its just my paranoia. I'm not really a psychiatrist - I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express a few times though.
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Msg: 2 (view)
 
Viagra And Divorce: A link?
Posted: 4/14/2013 2:56:30 AM
It's those 4 hour erections... and she's done and over with in under 5 minutes.

I'm willing to bet a chunk of those men that are cheating on Viagra, were cheating on their wives in the past until their ED. Taking a drug that helps a body part function again isn't responsible for ones choices of what they do with that after.
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Msg: 125 (view)
 
Why do Men of a Certain Age HATE Facebook?
Posted: 4/14/2013 2:50:06 AM

For those who personally don't like it --just say hey I don't like it but quit trying to make up scary things to make yourself feel better.


Actually, nothing either DS or DR said really was "made up". I personally don't like it that much, but then as DS said, I'm rather a Luddite (heh, not really, hey - I still use tech at home!) when the day is over and I'm not dealing with work (apps broken, security issues, etc), but nothing either of them said is "made up" or technically false.
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Msg: 20 (view)
 
You meet, you date, it goes well...and then...
Posted: 4/14/2013 2:07:54 AM

This very issue ended my last relationship. From the very beginning, we discussed our long term goals which included eventually living together, and marriage was a possibility, but not a deal breaker for either of us.. After 2 years of dating, the topic became the source of every argument we had. He refused to sell his house, refused to rent his house. I had 2 kids still in high school and wanted to keep them in their school district until they graduated. I suggested he rents his place and we live in mine until the kids graduate and then I will sell mine. He did not like that idea.. I offered to sell mine and we buy or rent one together until my kids graduated.. He did not like that idea.


Ended one of mine, although far shorter than 2 years.
She wanted to be married (at maybe 6mo's dating, my 'rule' was 1yr minimum), and we were 3hrs apart. Still, I was willing to talk about it, she had 2 younger (8 & 11) children and had moved all around the country when they were younger, wanted them to have a stable school life as they got older - I actually respected that, wouldn't have considered asking her to move - but me moving meant selling my house, finding a new job (3hr commute, one way, isn't very realistic) in her area, etc... but any 'talk' about it wasn't an option. I moved up there and married her 'next week' or it was over. You can guess where that went.

I think, though, to the OP - if you have nobody now it is pointless to worry about. Maybe the guy you meet will be divorced and renting a condo or something? Or, maybe you'll lose your job and have to move and wind up renting when you meet "mr right" where ever he is. One never knows. It should be a topic of discussion with them, and of course depend on a lot of variables based on what you each have, where you live, etc.
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Msg: 15 (view)
 
Guys with vasectomies.
Posted: 4/14/2013 1:52:33 AM
So, if he's had a vasectomy and mentions that, but forgets some little permanent and perhaps life-changing thing like HIV, HSV, that's ok? Those 'condom' things protect against a lot of other things besides pregnancy y'know.
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Msg: 34 (view)
 
Women can fix this!
Posted: 4/14/2013 12:54:44 AM
By the way, there are other sites for that, "dont date him girl" (no spaces) was one I heard about from ages back - check one out if you'd like.

Might even see me up on there: See, there was this thread I posted back to the OP on years back, a normal "trying to be helpful" response... next thing I know I'm getting a nasty email from her about my calling her "those things". Huh?!? So I go look, some 20y/o kid after me posted back to her with stuff I'd never say to a woman (um, lets just say one reference was to a "receptacle for male bodily fluid", amongst others) - she somehow attributed his post to my username. I emailed her back to say "I think you meant the stupid kid below my post, who called you some really nasty/ugly things" - she emailed me back to tell me "not to lie, I'm just a jerk" and she was posting me on one of those sites, and promptly blocked me. So, I may be up there as being a horrible nasty person who calls women nasty names... because she attributed someone else's comments to me. Fair, right?

And besides, in the long run, I really doubt POF would want to potentially open themselves up to lawsuits based on false accusations.
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Msg: 33 (view)
 
Women can fix this!
Posted: 4/14/2013 12:41:19 AM
The problem with this is that it is entirely subjective, and there is no way the mods or admin can possibly know whether someone reporting a profile is being truthful or not. That is why there are some very basic selections you can make, like fake pictures (or pictures of their privates), they're putting email addresses or phone#'s in their profile, mentioning other people's profile names in their profile (in a nasty way), etc.

Or to put it in a simpler way - what if, oh... lets use Completely_Icomplete (sorry, but you're here), say you email her and for whatever reason she thinks you come across rude or she's not interested and you come back at her with a nasty comment... what would there be to stop her from then reporting your profile and having you deleted? Say you got a date on here and you met her for coffee, and nothing 'clicked' for you so you told her you weren't interested, and she got upset and thought you were 'leading her on' - should she be able to report you and get you deleted? How would the moderators/admin know if she is being honest or not? Or do they just take women as being "pure of motive like the freshly fallen snow" and totally incapable of dishonestly and vengence when jilted?

What if the guy is polite in the first few emails, they 'graduate' to the phone and on the first phone call he wants to have phone sex, or asks for naked pictures? The mods should take her word for it if she reports him? Or wait, maybe the women should be recording all their phone calls with men? (I believe that's illegal in some states unless both parties know)... and then if she hands over that recording to POF, how do they verify it's actually him and not a guy friend she's using to report the guy?

No, women can't fix it. The moderators/admin can't fix it.
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Msg: 29 (view)
 
Compatibility, Criteria, and Chemistry
Posted: 4/13/2013 11:46:38 PM
Eh, my 'picker' is obviously broken anyways, but then I've never had any real strict 'criteria' other than she's female and has a heart beat, and I find her attractive. And brains... I'm like a zombie, I like brains.
Really just 'go with the flow gut instinct though' - which apparently doesn't work very well for me thus far.
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Msg: 52 (view)
 
Relationships Today
Posted: 4/13/2013 11:39:28 PM
I guess I'd have to say I'd be fairly comfortable with what you posted - I mean, it sounds like you talked once on "the Friday after I got there"... I would certainly appreciate a "I got here ok" message, especially if you were driving (a plane crash would probably be news, a car accident might not). I wouldn't be expecting a daily call or text by any means, much less multiple times a day.... but then, everyone is different, and obviously it should be a topic of discussion with you if he's that upset over it.
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Msg: 97 (view)
 
personality vs. character
Posted: 4/13/2013 11:30:35 PM

ALL THIS IS TRUE .... BUT THE ONLY ANSWER THROUGH THIS EQUATION ..FROM EXPERIENCE IS YOU CANT CHANGE NO ONE , YOU CAN HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON THEM TO WANT TO CHANGE BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAVE NOT THE POWER TO CHANGE NO ONE


Well, besides that it's rude to SHOUT all the time (all cap's on the internet is SHOUTING, fyi), and were I to take "you can't change no one" at it's English meaning, I would have to agree that you can't change "no one" because there is "no one" to change in that meaning... by what you probably really mean, that you "can't change anyone else", I would agree. The only person you can really change is yourself (although for the "right person", if you loved them, you might *try* to change things about yourself - "they" would never be changing you, just maybe being a 'catalyst' for you to change yourself).

On the topic of character though - this is why the early stage of a relationship is often called the 'honeymoon' phase, because both people are usually trying to 'impress', come across their best, etc. In essence somewhat of a lie, but there's the old adage that you 'never get a 2nd chance to make a 1st impression' - which is in many ways true - so people try to make a good first impression. It's not until several (3-6mo's or more) that people relax their guard and you start really seeing their true character.
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Msg: 56 (view)
 
downgrading to lower education or profession on profile
Posted: 4/13/2013 11:07:29 PM

What I've noticed in my searches for men with higher education levels is profiles seem to be
written on a sixth grade level. Seems like every other Bubba here has a Graduate Degree.


I'm reminded of the profile I saw where, besides all the other spelling mistakes, the person had their profession listed as:

"Brane Surgen"

While I doubt they had any kind of medical degree, if they did I would want to know what school they went to - because I would never want to recommend it to anyone, and where they practiced - because I'd want to be sure to never need brain surgery anywhere in that area.
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Msg: 33 (view)
 
this ladies, is how good guys become jerks
Posted: 4/13/2013 10:57:06 PM
So for the last 3 weeks I have been friends with this girl. She knew that I was very infatuated with her. She made jokes about us having sex etc.
She just broke up with her boyfriend who was a total jerk(sat around watching sports on valentines day) so I thought if I was around and she was ready, we'd end up together.


Mistake#1 - she "just" broke up with her boyfriend, but:


She took pictures of us hugging to make her ex jealous so I really thought she was into me.


Major issue #1, she's taking pictures of you hugging to "make her ex jealous"? First off, that says she's still emotionally very tied up in that "ex"-relationship, and second its pretty damn childish of her.

I'm guessing she's just really hot, because that alone would make me totally uninterested in someone. Trying to "use" me as some kind of "vengence" on a past partner is immature and not something I would find attractive.


Last week we go out and she brings a guy that I knew she had a crush on. An hour later they're making out and leaving me to be the third wheel. So this random get alcohol poisoning and passes out outside. Knowing first aid I put her in the recovery position and stay with her until the ambulance came. They ditched while I was doing this. I find them at another club later on.


Ok, mistake#2 on your part, especially after:


She has made out with other guys while we were out


She spent the entire time (man, *3* whole weeks??) she's made out with multiple guys in the 3 weeks you've known her and yet this last guy finally ticked you off just because it's someone she told you she had a crush on? Hey, let me guess, every one of those times she's been making out with guys while with you, she's been getting wasted at the bar too? Quality woman there...


I no longer talk to her after I yelled at her for using and ditching me. So now I'm done being the nice guy. Another good man turned into a jerk. This is why you don't lead men on ladies.


She was leading you on from the start, and you accepted it. It should have been *plain as day* she wasn't interested in anything with you the first time she made out with some other guy. Let me give you a hint, a woman who is *really* interested in you, *isn't* going to be making out with other guys when you've gone out together. After the first time, the times after that first one are *your* responsibility for having blinders on.
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Msg: 19 (view)
 
Still miss my ex its been six months is this normal
Posted: 4/13/2013 10:28:34 PM
How long were you with the 'ex'?
I mean, if it was a 3 month relationship, I might think its a bit of an issue - wasn't a very long relationship.
If you're talking years... I'd say it's perfectly normal.
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Msg: 121 (view)
 
Why do Men of a Certain Age HATE Facebook?
Posted: 4/13/2013 5:38:05 PM

The only men I have met on pof who don't care for FB (and communicate that rather severely) are not great at navigating online and/or a little (to a lot) rough around the edges in person too.


That one just makes me laugh, what a horrible generalization. FYI, I work in IT and support fairly large websites (although I'm sure not as large in terms of 'user base' as Facebook)... yet I have a very basic cell phone (no 'smart' phone like android, iphone, etc - no, I don't need to carry the internet with me 24/7), and I don't use "fakebook" very often. I'd rather go for a walk or something, and be 'out of touch' with the world for a while, than have it strapped to my hip and be posting my every action/feeling on it. I 'navigate' just fine online though - my job rather requires it.
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Msg: 115 (view)
 
Date With Single Mom Went Horribly Wrong
Posted: 4/13/2013 2:06:47 PM


(privat33r) .. can't be in the car without a booster..?? okay- that's true- but its not exactly the most difficult thing to solve, I think everyone would be fine with bit of care with the seat belts and some clothes to sit on.

What are you, on dope? You can stuff an entire hamper under a kid, but it's still illegal.


Yup. Thing is, the OP was stupid in the first place - realistically, he *let her and the kids in his car* and drove around with underage children in the car, illegally, in the first place. Quite simply, as soon as he got there and saw she had her kids with her, he should have said "sorry, I don't have any child seats for them, it's illegal and I'm not going to risk getting an expensive ticket for a date with someone I really don't know". He helped *create* the situation he had to then fake a message (lie) to get out of, when if he'd been totally honest up front it probably would have gone better. She may have still been pissed, but it wouldn't have been a lie after *already doing* the illegal thing.

Basically what it sounds like is, if her kids were well behaved and the OP thought he stood a chance of knocking boots with her later on - he not only would have driven with the kids in the car, illegally (which he *did*), he probably would have assaulted the idiot she pointed to that she didn't like, and robbed a convenience store for her too, to "get some" later.
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Msg: 51 (view)
 
Not Noticing the Obvious...
Posted: 4/13/2013 12:46:00 PM

It's not so much that people don't notice the "obvious"... They do. That's why they write for advice. Things have gotten to the point where the situation feels uncomfortable. People usually want to know what to do to get things back on track.


So they come onto an online forum to ask a bunch of strangers for advice, rather than communicating with their partner to try and 'get things back on track' (with them)?? It might be one thing to post a reply to someone with a bit of advice based on (talking about) a past or current relationship, trying to help someone - but if you find yourself coming online to post entire threads about your relationship (which, in general, my experience on here is that 99% of the time they are people looking to "justify" how they are right and the other person is wrong), you're failing at communicating with your partner and really even trying to "get things back on track".


People who have worked through their relationship difficulties realize that good communication, patience, persistence and a positive attitude about the situation usually are helpful. However, a lot of times in the case of mixed feelings where things could go either way... it seems to me that a lot of people decide to just end things and give up.


I'd agree with that, with the caveat from my first quote/comment that people that come online 'writing for advice' *rather* than communicating with the other 1/2 of their relationship are failing right off the bat on the first part of that. And of course quite often they come on here posting "their side" of the situation, which is a flawed concept in itself since it's quite likely nobody here knows anything about the other person. It'd be far more appropriate and useful to ask a friend, who knows you and maybe (preferably) has met the other person, rather than looking for one-sided responses to a one-sided OP.
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Msg: 109 (view)
 
Why do Men of a Certain Age HATE Facebook?
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:36:36 PM
I don't know as I "hate" Facebook, but I dislike it for a lot of reasons.
I am on it, and I keep it around, for some of the reasons you gave - old high school people, friends from past jobs, etc. But I not all that long ago went back and purged virtually every post/like/etc I ever did on there, and now if I do post something it's generally gone within 2 weeks (I only leave things up a few weeks). The exception to that is some pictures I have up there.

I don't like, didn't want, and think is stupid, the "timeline" that I chose not to "upgrade" to for a year, until they decided to 'upgrade' me to it against what I wanted. Numerous new 'features' have been implemented like that. A good chunk of the people I have as 'friends' I have mostly blocked - no, I really don't care or want to know about your cow on Farmville. I log on as little as possible these days, don't post much anymore, and honestly have thought about just getting rid of it numerous times.

I'm not "threatened" by it though at all - that's like saying I'm 'threatened' by the pavement on my driveway, it just is there, it serves a very limited purpose, and I'd get by just fine without it (ie, my driveway was dirt/gravel for many years).
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Msg: 19 (view)
 
FWB?
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:15:39 PM

I am asking men, because my girlfriend's say for the most part woman are too emotional and eventually will develop feelings with that partner. Would it be settling? I want the whole package in a man but from the dates I have had does not seem that is what men are looking for today. Am I wrong and it's just the men I seem to be finding? Can FWB really work?


I think that depends - an FWB will work quite well, as an FWB. If you think you are going to develop more feelings and want it to turn into something more, well - it's not impossible but probably unlikely, and if that is going to hurt you, if you really want more than that, then I would generally advise you to keep looking for what you really want.
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Msg: 73 (view)
 
Sends Me Her Phone Number Same Night, Red Flag?
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:07:17 AM

I haven't read all the posts but even though she wasn't a good date YOU could have refused to buy the cigs, refused to go out with her after you saw she smokes, or you could have refused to go driving, or just tried to make the most of it and get to know her among her friends and saved the date for another time and considered it a hangout. Your choice, and fair enough. Just don't do something you don't want to and blame her.


He suggested a movie so his "hands could wander and 'cop a feel'" ("heheh" in his mind), and quite obviously he bought smokes, drove, etc, with the hopes of 'getting something'. Then when he doesn't get what he wants, he turns into the whiny little childish creature he really is, who has to get "his way" or he pouts (online) about it.
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Msg: 56 (view)
 
Sends Me Her Phone Number Same Night, Red Flag?
Posted: 4/9/2013 10:55:33 PM

Okay Im going for it tomorrow thanks for the advice.... but I told her to change the meeting place, its kinda of retarded to date in a bowling area... I like movie theaters better because its dark and hands move a lot in the darkness hehehe the bowling alley will be a waste of time... lets see what happens.


Oh, so you are going to be the creepy guy who starts trying to grab/fondle body parts of the woman you just met and haven't even spent any time really getting to know? Wow. I'm thinking cancelling would be *her* best option.
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Msg: 14 (view)
 
So ladies what do you think of a really handsome man who talks in monotone?
Posted: 4/9/2013 10:50:10 PM
It's probably really hard for them to tell without seeing a picture of the guy to judge how 'really handsome' he is... you should post a picture of this guy up in your profile, because all that's there apparently is pictures of you.


Well not to brag but I have gotten many compliments on my looks.

Sounds like bragging to me.

"brag:
n.
1. A boast.
2. Arrogant or boastful speech or manner.
3. Something boasted of.
4. A braggart; a boaster."
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Msg: 115 (view)
 
need advise
Posted: 4/9/2013 4:06:33 PM

Please dont write more again.


Here's a hint OP, *you* aren't in control of the rest of us - and we can *choose* to write more, or not, depending on what we decide for ourselves.

Just like whatever guy "promises" you he'll marry you "in 2 years" might just decide a year from now that he is sick of your needy dependent sh*t and dump you, regardless of his "promise".

Quite honestly, I'd be done with you in minutes given your attitude... the guy is "supposed" to marry you within some given timeframe, and if he's got some other issues a "dowry" from your parents should "take care of it". Love and compatibility don't come into play, *you* want "a husband and a father" (aka, a "sperm donor" for a child), and the other person's feelings don' t even come into play.

And then you talk about being "sincere"...
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Msg: 64 (view)
 
need advise
Posted: 4/7/2013 7:41:20 PM

okay hon, here is what you are going to do. first thing tomorrow, you are going to find a therapist, make an appointment (tell him or her you are in crisis mode so they can get you in faster) and go and talk to this person. you sound obsessed with getting married. if what you say is true and you have no agenda but just want to marry anyone that will take you, then you do need professional help. this is not what a normal person does. i am not being mean to you honey...i am seriously trying to help you. please do what i say.


And I'll add to that, print out a copy of this thread to bring with you and give it to the therapist to read.
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Msg: 37 (view)
 
need advise
Posted: 4/7/2013 4:36:29 PM

Oh dear. This is making me sad. I seriously want to give you a hug.


Big ditto there. Understanding from her posts that English probably isn't her first language, but I just offered the Brooklyn Bridge for a wedding present and she seriously believes it? OP, you are setting yourself up to get "taken for a ride" big time if you don't grow up quick. Please read the quote I put in at the end of my post about "selling the Brooklyn Bridge" OP - the meaning in relation to my post is: "I'll take your $50K while promising you the bridge... once I have the $50K you'll never see me again".


WT3 ideal situations are perfect but my situation is whenever i love someone he ditches me. This has happened many times and each time it felt like dying. So my only option is to marry first and then love. No matter how it happens with love, with friends help or with money I need to find a husband and i will make my marriage work. I will be extremely supportive of everything and do anything to keep my partner happy. I will be happy too as I would have found my husband. All is well that ends well.


You're forgetting some other options, like: marry first, and then he turns out to be a lying, abusive, cheating, drunk - and you are miserable. Or: marry first, and then it turns out he failed to tell you about the STD's he has and the vasectomy he got 5 years ago (and forget having children then).
 
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