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 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 16 (view)
 
NOW receiving notifications
Posted: 7/29/2007 4:50:56 PM
As of July 23rd the notifications started back up again.
i received matches and today the 29th i just received an email saying that i had new mail.

not sure what changed....

but thanks !
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Any non ink-hog printers?
Posted: 5/22/2007 5:29:43 AM
i read something that said teh printer companies like HP are basically giving away the printers at cost and not making a dime on them, most of the time actualy loosing money on the printers.... but they make 85% of their profits from ink now.

what you should check into is what is called continuous flow ink systems (CFS), or bulk ink systems.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=continuous+flow+ink+system

this guy specalizes in epson, but you will get the point :
http://www.inksupply.com/cobra.cfm

i owned an ENCAD printer/plotter 36" wide carriage. it uses the same standard printer cartritdges taht many other printers use... but when you are printing out a 12 foot poster that is 3 feet wide, you need more than a single ink cartridge can deliver. the CFS systems use tubes (like medical IV tubes) to deliver the ink from large storage bottles (i typically used 1 liter bottles) directly to the ink cartridge. a liter of ink is only $120 (when i was buying them) as opposed to $35 per printer cartridge for about an ounce of ink.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Can you tell me how to fix this?
Posted: 5/13/2007 6:32:48 PM

i am trying to talk to people it says that i have to upgrade my flash player i have dont that and have rebooted my computer but i still cant chat when someone im me what is going on .



if you go to this :
http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/

it will tell you what you have already installed

to download and install flash, go to :
"http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"


ps... for future referece do not post a new question into a thread that has nothing to do with your question. that is called thread hijacking in the industry and typically gets your comments or questions deleted. (i can see how you may have thought it was ok as the title of this one is "tell me how to fix this" even though it was actually about filtering)

if you have a question, feel free to start a new thread and post it there.
but i hope the above info solves your problem for you.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Can you tell me how to fix this?
Posted: 5/13/2007 6:22:46 PM
forgot to answer your question.
my friends problem was the ISP itself, not anything that was installed on the computer.
when they hit send: when an email would hit the ISP's network their system would go through and clean or alter words so that it was "family friendy" and non offensive. the problem is that sometimes it made the emails unreadable or changed the meaning or train of thought behind them...

perfect example of unintended consequences of trying to regulate too much.

ulimately they ended up dropping their ISP and going with a standard one that didnt do filtering.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Can you tell me how to fix this?
Posted: 5/13/2007 6:17:06 PM
thought so... you have some type of filtering in place.
when you hit send in email only ?
when you hit send using this POF site ?
or in any type of application ?

if email only, what is your email program ? outlook ? Eudora ? something else ?
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 86 (view)
 
Reports of unethical or fraudulent experiences w/ True.com?
Posted: 5/12/2007 3:29:56 AM
update :
actually.. go over to true.com in their search page you can search for screen names.

type in the word "fake" and hit search... walla ! there are at least 4 profiles that i know are fakes, 3 of them even say "fake profile" as the screen names.

BTW... gang.. writing to true to tell them that they have fake accounts or bogus billing or any other compliants.. its futule. they have zero concern for your issues. as long as they make money they are happy.

women that had profiles on True.com. are you aware that they are using you as bait on mens sites for "beauty pagents" ???

TRUE.com is using your profiles to promote a beauty pageants on such sites as AskMen.com Look for yourself here http://www.askmen.com/women/votes_300/322_true_women.html

OR Go To AskMen.com and in their search box type in "TRUE.com" and hit search. look at item #1 "Beauty Pageant."
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 85 (view)
 
Reports of unethical or fraudulent experiences w/ True.com?
Posted: 5/12/2007 3:13:34 AM
I had a paying account on True for a long time, all the typical problems posted. then they had a spurt wherer they were actually TRYING to get LIVE women t sign up for TRUE.com (you know, posting all those fake ads all the time takes a lot of staff hours)

so they started giving women free accounts for a while. so i asked .. how is it taht women get free acounts and can contact you immediately, if "they screen all profiles for fellons" and do background checks... ok, im a programmer... lets test this theory.

i created a fake womans account on TRUE (False) with the most rediculous info.. i think i even called the screen name "This_Is_A_Fake_Account" or something like that... within 3 minutes i was able to create the account, add photos and then write my real account an email.

you cant do a background check in 3 minutes. completely bogus info.

3 years later... the fake account is still listed on their website and you can still find it in the searches.

Edit : one thing i hate about most dating sites and i think it is deceptive... none of them that i am aware of show the date the users account was created nor do they show when was the last time the user accessed the account. for all you know you could be writing to someone that has not updated their account in 3 years.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Satellite Interent Access
Posted: 5/6/2007 2:16:39 AM
The reson i am looking into this is that i live in hawaii and am looking at disaster management options in a worst case scenario type of thing.

in some cases this may mean really bad storm or hurricane. in others a tsunami.
but for the most part it would not be needed during the event but instead after the fact when local power, phones, cable and everything else is offline potentially for days or weeks.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Satellite Interent Access
Posted: 5/5/2007 8:30:29 AM
does anyone have any experiene with Satellite internet access ?
if you do :
1) what do you use ?
2) why did you pick it ?
3) are you satisfied ?
4) do you experience frequent or any downtime ?

and any other info you can provide.

i see some now being advertised at $50 a month for bidirectional transmission and was wondering if anyone out there is using satellite internet access.

i remember not so long ago (like 1998) that this type of servie was over $1,200 a month.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Can you tell me how to fix this?
Posted: 5/5/2007 8:23:05 AM
i dont think the post above is the answer your looking for.

1a) does this only happen in email ?
1b) or are you referring to here in POF ?
1c) or are you referring to any type of web typeing on any site or in any program (like ms word) on your computer ?

2a) does the word appear and dissapear as soon as it is typed?
2b) or can you type it and hit send, and then it dissapears (or is "cleansed") after it hits your outbox.
2c) or can you type it and hit send, and then it dissapears (or is "cleansed") after it hits your internet provider .


i had a friend years ago that was using an internet service provider that was strongly christian based and designed to protect the kids and family from smut and predators. the problem was that their filters were designed so poorly that it didnt look for whole words, but took even parts of words as you described above. it would "cleanse" words that she didnt want or need cleansed and it ended up causing more problems than it prevented.
they lived near a town in pennsylvania (PA) called "middlesex" which is on the far west part of the state. but each time she would send things like job or college applications out the "filters" would extract the word "sex" from middlesex and it made it look like she lived in the "middle" of PA. companies did not want to hire someone that lived outside of the area and were not willing to pay for relocation. colleges would reject applications because of not being a resident of the county.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 73 (view)
 
What do you make of a man who disappears then reappears?
Posted: 5/4/2007 4:16:26 AM

What do you make of a man that goes out with a woman several times, enjoys himself and expresses this, calls frequently then suddenly stops and won’t talk or return a woman’s calls/emails-*POOF*. A few weeks later decides, without explanation, to start emailing and calling again being friendly, wanting to see her, flirting, etc.?


Funny...

that describs almost perfectly the actions of a woman i have been talking to.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Girl lied, shes not 18
Posted: 5/4/2007 4:04:13 AM
I see newspapers all the time with headlines of guys getting arrested for luring "children" to meet them. personally.. i would say then that the reverse is fair too.

call the cops, report her and see if they can contact the kids parents. maybe they can have a good "WTF are you thinking?" talk with her.

EDIT *
a friend of my mothers.. her daughter did the same thing. she was like 15 and did the exact same thing. she thought it was cute and (with her and my mother there) asked me to take a few pictures of her so she could post on her web page... she thought she was "sooooo sexxxxxy" i told her your not sexy, your a stupid 15 year old child.

one day she went missing and was not to be found for 4 days. last i heard i think she was pregnant.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 38 (view)
 
Dating Turn Off Triggers
Posted: 5/4/2007 3:27:47 AM
so..
i'm curious to understand this....
the guy asks for clarification with "What do You Mean?"
and you tell him to hit the road ?

did you bother to listen to or get an explanation ?
was he working overtime ? was he sick ? was he just super busy ?

i dated a woman for 2 1/2 years. we were almsot 2 hours apart from each other and each week we both "did a disappearing act" from monday till friday. she hated talking on the phone and didnt use a computer. she was secure enough in herself to know where we were in our relationship.

as far as my dating turn off triggers ?
#1 ) Prejudice. and not just about skin color. prejudice like making decisions about things when you have little or no real inforamtion about them. uninformed decisions.
#2) Arrogance. talking down about someone because of their circumstances, often it is also based on prejudice.
#3) "Princess Syndrome." i actually had a woman tell me recently "i like it when men buy me things." she is 41, living at home with mom and dad, does not work and looking for a "financially secure" man.

i have a few more but those are my top 3
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Stood UP on First Dates
Posted: 5/4/2007 2:45:56 AM
yep

about a month ago. from a woman i met here on POF.
we talked on the phone, set up a date. then about an hour before i am supposed to meet her get the voice mail "sorry, i cant make it" ok, so i called back. she's busy baby sitting but says to call any time.

so i call and call... i leave a week of voice message (4 calls) . finally, one day she answers. short call, "nice to hear from you (yada, yada, yada), sorry i have to run. but you can call me any time."

so then another 2 weeks of voice mails(5+ calls), her never answering. even sent a couple of emails. then on the day i was going to leave a message saying "your just toying with me, im done with you." she answers. talks to me for about 15 minutes and ends with "call me any time ! Kisses !"

so then another week of calls. 3 of them. finally i said screw it, im not calling any more its obvious she is not really intrested and just messing withg me and i am to busy to be screwing around like this.

after a week or so of me not calling... she calls me and leaves a message. other than the initial blowing off the first date. i think this is the only call i have received from her.

its been over a week, i think approaching 2 now and i have not called back. i am debating weather i should or not... you know, forever the optimist. part of me, i think though i am just 'plan B'. that she was seeing someone else and im being kept around "just in case"

but even so... if it works out for us, then good deal right ? other than the bad phone etiquete she seems super nice, i think great profile on POF and looks great too.


but yea.. sort of a delima over this one.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 31 (view)
 
respectfully discouraging mr.wrong?
Posted: 5/3/2007 11:52:16 PM
Adding on :

If you choose to do this, tell him that you know somone he may like. this opens the doors for several things.
1) to find out where he stands in dealing with you.
2) he may then actually tell you he is interested in you, or he may even say he is gay or has someone. but as the previous 2 postes say, you dont know what his intentions are.
2) it give you the opportunity to ask him straight out if he is seeing someone, and then you can follow up with "because i know someone that you might like"
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 30 (view)
 
respectfully discouraging mr.wrong?
Posted: 5/3/2007 11:29:08 PM
"After a while, he'll get the message"
please...

Just be forward and deal with it. i hate all the "drop a hint" type of crap. all of that deals with assumptions and guesswork. its just another mind game.

why are you not interested in him ? not the right looks? is he fugly ?? is he a mental case ? have some baggage ? or is there something else ?

if he is a nice guy and you think hes a nice guy, but are simply not interested.... if you want to be indirect, and direct at teh same time.... and if you are interested in getting his focus off of you. hook him up with a friend that you know. tell him "i have a friend i think you might like" and then hook him up. that will tell him, no i am not interested, but i think your ok and i can refer you to someone. its about the most indirect, direct way of dealing with it.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 12 (view)
 
I have a Bi*ch of a bug HELP!!!
Posted: 4/30/2007 2:52:04 AM

Problem was solved but thanks for your input!!


so what solved the problem ?
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 94 (view)
 
Aside from looks,what makes a woman truly beautiful in your eyes?
Posted: 4/29/2007 4:56:25 PM
ATTITUDE !

i have met women that most would say are beautiful, but when you start to see their bad ass attitude, you realize that they are no longer that attractive. in fact, i have noticed that it actually impacts how i see them and i no longer see their "surface" attractiveness, only their bad attitude.

likewise, i have met women that at first, i didnt think they were all that attractive, but after they demonstrate their attitude a bit, you see a reflection of how truly beautiful they are and it actually makes them more visually appealing too.

ATTITUDE !
dont be selfish. if she cant be bothered to do any volunteer work, for anything at all, not attractive to me.
be assertive. tell me exactly whats on your mind. dont make me make 50 guesses to find out that your upset because there were pickles on your burger.
be considerate of others, be nice to people in general.

ATTITUDE !
if you have the attitude "It's my world, your just living in it." regardless of how attractive you are genetically, i will not be able to tolerate your mental state and you are not in the slightest attractive to me as a human being.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 14 (view)
 
not receiving notifications
Posted: 4/27/2007 6:05:16 PM

So its not an issue of receiving emai for the matches to searches. Its a matter of receiving updates on new messages to forum threads you are tracking.

Jesu, I didn't even know this site sent emails tracking forum thread postings. Why would it be emailed to you externally, rather than simply sending thread update messages in your inbox here? .


i do not receive any email from the site any more.
last match email was feb 12th. last user response email was feb 18th.

the internal messageing would be cool ! forum updated to your inbox to let you know you got a response.

but all other online forums i use all have notification options (instant, once a day, once a week)
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 13 (view)
 
not receiving notifications
Posted: 4/27/2007 5:58:16 PM
i received a "This is a test. " email

I also had 7 messages today (all from POF staff) in the system/site inbox, and all the responses here. didnt receive any notifications at all.

I use a catch all on my personal account email server so yea.. even though i spellllled it wrong, i still (used to) get the messages. the reason for the email acc0unt : i set up a new email address for every single account/business and person i deal with. this way if i start getting any spam, i know where it came from as all addresses are unique to the entity i deal with.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 7 (view)
 
not receiving notifications
Posted: 4/27/2007 2:53:58 AM
yea, i have the spam blocks disabled at the server (no blocking, complete pass through) and am even using a catch all for my personal account.
i just sent a message to my upstream provider to have them look into some other potential issues.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 5 (view)
 
not receiving notifications
Posted: 4/27/2007 2:29:17 AM
i am the ISP

(did you read the bottom section of my first post ?)

is there any way to have you guys do a test and send something to me ? see if you get any bounce or other responses ?
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 3 (view)
 
not receiving notifications
Posted: 4/27/2007 2:14:51 AM
thanks.
actually i did see that one, but there is no way to change the frequency (how often) teh messages are sent

its already turned on too.
is there a seperate one for forums versus messages ?
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
not receiving notifications
Posted: 4/27/2007 2:05:31 AM
Hi

As of Feb 18th this year, i have not received any notifications that i have mail or that forums i am tracking have been modified. i have received nothing from POF since then, but i have had mail and forum posts have been responded to.

i spent the last hour searching all over the site and the forums to change notifications preferences, AND READ THE HELP.. but cant find this anywhere.
where is the section that i state how often i want to receive email notifiations ?
how do i do this ?

ps.
and no, its not a problem on my end.
i own a web hosting company and know all about email and filters and the bulk folder. i have it all disabled for my personal account. there has simply been no inbound traffic from POF since then.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Pages come up really slowly and it's tedious.
Posted: 4/26/2007 5:45:27 AM
ok.
the first question is. what changed ?

you said it was fine before... before what ?
did you add in some new software ? chagne hardware ? new router ? went wireless ? add in some firewall or add blocker or soemthing ?

what changed ?
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 49 (view)
 
Reports of unethical or fraudulent experiences w/ True.com?
Posted: 4/26/2007 5:28:09 AM
yep

Total scam.

you guys ever get those emails saying whos new ? i used to all the time, i was 39 and true was sending me profiles for 18 year olds constantly. i CLEARLY had marked that i was not interested in dating children.

finally after about 30 emails to true lies, i got tired of telling them to stop sending me children.. and i decided to contact every 18 year old they ever sent me.... about 220 if i remember correctly. the whole point ? to provoke a reaction. one girl was so upset taht i wrote her she threatened to call the cops and the FBI. good. EXACTLY what i was looking for. so i wrote back and explained that true GAVE me her info. she could not believe it, till i sent her a copy of the original email. man was she pissed.

for more info.. check out my website.
www.CurtsWebPage.com all the trash about true in Dating Scams section.

Oh.. taht .99 cents is for a "consultation fee" or something. when you sign up there is something in their small print and it is automatically turned on. if you dig enough you will find the option and are able to turn that off. you can not delete a profile. they use all your old profiles as marketing gymicks. i think there is something else in their fine print saying that once you submit the info, it is their to do with as they please. they are using your info to scam others.
how you feel about that ?

someone needs to shut them down.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Do you think relationships work if you only see each other at weekends?
Posted: 4/26/2007 4:27:16 AM
I dated a lady for 2 1/2 years like that. we lived about 2 hours apart and both self employed. it was pretty good actually at first. keep the "work week" to concentrate on work, and leave teh weekends for each other. the weekends were really uummm... specal ! anticipation, excitement, happy !

one downfall we had. she was not into computers and hated to talk on the phone. so it was hard to maintain communications. you have to keep some active communications going. otherwise you get what happened to us after 2 years, and it was her saying that each wekend it was like we have to start all over getting to know each other.

also.. if you are both busy working.. then its a little less likely that you even have time to cheat on each other. for me, it was not a concern about her.. and i have never cheated on anyone i dated.

so yes, it can work, but you need to work it, and understand the time limit that it may require. if there is a set time that it will stop, then that is a little more manageable.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 29 (view)
 
low sex drive and porn
Posted: 4/26/2007 4:12:00 AM
that direct one is sort of funny. that might provike a reaction.

seriously. there are many forms of addiction.
high stimulation of some form or another... sugar even. can be addictive. being an addict is more about the persons personality. many people who are addicts to something are addicts to more than one thing. some are destructive, some are not (as). take a serious look at other things he may have addictions to. smoking ? strawberry ice cream ? (wild thought) or compulsive about (driving the same rout every day, establishing a routine to do simple things...)

and please. dont take it personal. its not that he doesnt prefer you. if hes addicted, then its somewhat out of his control. addiction is one of the most persuasive forces you will ever encounter. people who are addicted can tell themselves 'NO' 1000 times. and there is a reason they have to do it 1000 times. becasue the voice/drive inside is contstantly saying "yes, yes, yes, yes..... YES !"

you said "i've mentioned it, but he doesn't seem too concerned about it."

if he getting off multiple times a week, then of course hes not concerned. he has all the sex he needs, its jsut by himself. drug addicts act the same way. they dont see anytin wrong with it. its called denial. check out some AA information and 12 step programs.

on a differnet perspective, as a previous poster said, be the agressor. maybe he is feeling neglected a little. the women in porn, many of them play the agressor. what type of porn is he watching ? 1 on 1 ? groups ? does he have a preference ? is one type is taboo ? all of this may be a hint as to what is ticking in his brain.

the bottom line though is that porn is addictive. it causes the brain to be overly visually stimulated. and he can maintain control as to when he decides to finish once he starts. in the course of normal (with a partner) intercourse, there may not be an equeveliant amount of visual stimulation and he feels out of control. do you prefer the lights on or off ? keep the lights on. get a couple of mirrors.... hehehe

was he abused as a kid ? get him to explain why he is so into the porn. that is a starting point to admitting there is a problem, and a step towars getting him off of it.

but yes, in order to have a healty relationship, you need to seperate him from his addiction... and not just transfer the addction to something else.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Would you rather hear the bad news?
Posted: 4/23/2007 9:46:30 AM
i think #5 was the best response. i have done that, written to someone that i forgot i had writtten to before, then got a rude reponse teh 2nd time because she never responded to to me the first time to say anything.

#23. completely disagree. lack of a response is not a response. its jsut plain rude and reinforcing selfishness and arrogant behavior. there are any number of reasons a lack of response is not acceptible as a response. a lack of a response means you have to ASSUME, its not an absolute. did you get it and forget about it ? did your computer crash while you were writing ? did your family/brother/sister open it by accident ? did i say something that offended you ?

yes. i want a response. if your not interested. tell me. but at MINIMUN say thank you for taking the time to write. acknowledge the fact that i picked you over a hundred thousand others.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 35 (view)
 
What's the answer to getting a response on here?
Posted: 4/23/2007 9:18:54 AM
Rush....

the thing is though.. even though this is a free site i really expected it to be littered with crap. i am however severely impressed with the quality of ads that i see (lack of fakes and porn advertising) and the fact that i have had more responses here than off of all the pay sites combined that i have used.

so my hats off to the guy running the place. truly a quality site and higher quality people.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 255 (view)
 
did women kill chivalry? what do we need to do to bring it back?
Posted: 4/23/2007 8:53:02 AM
wow.
I have read most of the pages in this, but its 4:30 am and i need to decide to read more posts or get some sleep before my 9 am meeting....

seriously. this is one of the best threads i have read in a while. i didnt really think that there were so many other men out there in the world that felt the same way i did. i thought most of the other guys were a$$es but i have a slight bit differnet view now. THANKS GUYS !

as to any women reading this... this should be a standard and required text in every school from this point forward in time. it is filled with solid and accurate info that needs to be properly addressed. but let me add a few things.

Facts:
1) I have had more than one woman flip me off for opening a door for her.
2) After i opend my car door for a woman, she grabbed it out of my hand, slammed it shut and then opened again on her own, got in and then slammed it shut behind her. (forget the fact that i open the door for anyone that is a passenger with me)
3) I have had more than one woman give me a twisted stink face and say "get lost looser" for simply asking her to dance.
4) i have had more than one woman completely ignore me, but then immediately defend their actions plus get verbally abusive when i told them they were being rude.

if you want chivalry back ? ACT LIKE IT !
it starts with BASIC RESPECT and grattitude.

Some HINTS for a starting point :
1) when someone write to you online and says hi. i like your profile, great smile, great photos. i love what you had to say about _______ . i might be interested in talking to you more.
a) the LEAST you can do is write back and say "thank you", "thanks, no thanks", or "get lost looser," but SOME type of acknoledgement for their efforts is actually ecpected. its the only way to know for a fact where you stand.
b) acknoledge them for the time and effort they took to give you a compliment. you might be pretty and that might be the only reason they wrote to you. but they CHOOSE you. not the girl in the profile next to yours.
c) if the message was not received well because it was preverted or such.... as one previous poster said, PUNISH them. do not accpet rude and crude attitude. write back and tell them in no uncertain terms it was un acceptable. if it goes unpunished, it will continue with someone else.

2) STOP rewarding guys that are a$$es. if they treat you like crap, tell them it is un acceptable. if you jsut ignore them and stop talking to them, it is the same as rewarding them. without punishment there is no acknowledgemet of the wrong that is done. nothing will ever change without corrective action.

3) SAY "THANK YOU." sometimes when someone tells you something nice like a compliment, its just that and nothing more. say thank you. if it then turns rude after, referr to #2 above.

4) the quality of the person that i am has absolutly nothing to do with : the type of car i drive, style of clothes i wear, size of my bank account, if i ride public transportation, if i have a platinum card, have "gold fronts", have 24" rims, wear Gucci sunglasses, have a little extra weight on the mid section, how smooth of a BS line i can throw at you, if i wear a suit to work every day, if i have a college degree, if i wear beat up sneakers.

4ish) the quality of my personality may be : reflected in the fact that i work with the homeless, teach kids, volunter with organizations, give blood, help my neighbors, treat my mother nice, have not tried to get you into bed on the first date. by the people i sourround myslef with.

5) stop yielding your power as a weapon. men might be stronger, faster, etc... but most of us acknowlegde that we are really not the ones in charge. stop taking the fact that we are chasing you for companionship and using it against us. stop toying with us. stop pitting one of us agianst the other. stop seeing how much you can get out of us before we give up.

6) stop doing things taht draw attention to yourselves, and then getting upset when you get the results you were trying to accomplish. for instance. dont wear a t shirt taht has something strange written on it, or shorts with words across your butt, then get upset when we stop and try to read what it says (staring at your chest ro A$$)

7) stop wearing clothes that make you look like a hooker, then getting upset when someone tries to pick you up or ask you out. if your advertising yourself, then take responsibility for your actions and realize your going to get that attention you set out to get. but it may not be by mr. GQ, but a normal guy that was really impressed with ALL that you had to show.

8) stop talking about equal rights, but then complain if you might have to pay for dinner once because we forgot our wallets.

9) STOP with the tireless list of double standards.
a) Stop posting ads that say, "no picture, no reply" when you yourself dont have a photo posted.
b) start returning some phone calls when i leave message after message, and stop whineing if i miss one of your calls.
c) stop complaining that i ride the bus, when you dont have a car either.
d) stop expecting that we go out to eat every night OR stop complainig because i cant save any money.
e) if i have to get a 2nd job to suport your spending habbit, stop complaining that i dont spend enough time with you.

i can go on with a lot more... but, maybe some other men can instead add to these with their own experiences.

Thanks again guys for a great thread. and thanks OP for the initial question. i truly hope you pass this on to other women that REALLY want to see a change.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 13 (view)
 
How do you guys do it??
Posted: 4/23/2007 5:57:08 AM
personally...

i go through spurts. when i get some free time and i am not working like a maniac, sometimes i will send out 50 messages in a single session. i dig through profiles to find ones i like, nice photos (must have photos) and then i FULLY read the descriptions they have, then respond accordingly. I only write to women i am truly interested in for a potential long term thing, not into boooooty calls. always looking for something serious. i may have some part of it as a canned speach, (like that i like to cook and like to dance...) but as much is a unique response to the profile... and i mass as many at a time that i can.

why ?
because i have found that something like 97% of the women i write to never bother to respond. regardless of how sincere, long, short, whitty, funny, serious, etc, etc, etc... that i try to be. i get about 3 responses to every 100 messages i send out. its a numbers game. the more that see me, the more likely i am to get 1 that responds.

since i am not looking for the sex/booty call, then it sort of puts a twist on your question. i may take the time to meet some even if there is no possibility for a relationship, but i have met some on here that actually turn out to be a good business contact.

but the bottom line is, i sit down maybe once a month, send out about 50+ messages.. see if ANY even BOTHER to respond and say thanks... then i go from there. when i finally get a reponse, i write back and not try to overload them with info. but its always more than jsut a few lines.

now there is an exception to that. if i think the profile is a scam or fake, then i wil jsut write a few lines and see if i get back some type of canned looking reponse. (like asking for money, or the "im stuck in africa and need yor help", speach) but typically i write more.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 32 (view)
 
What's the answer to getting a response on here?
Posted: 4/22/2007 8:18:10 PM
Oh..
one more.

the ads of women that say, "no pic, no response" but they themselves have no pic posted.

yea.. just a "LITTLE" of being a hypocrite there....
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 31 (view)
 
What's the answer to getting a response on here?
Posted: 4/22/2007 8:09:00 PM
actually, I think the question should be "how do we teach people to be respectful of someone else's attention ?"

If someone writes to you, as long as its not completely bizarre, I think you owe it to people to at least write back and acknowledge them. even if you think they are hideous to look at. it is the only decent thing to do. it is respectful.

I HATE with a passion the fact that people "say" they are looking for a nice guy, but they themselves fail to be nice or even courteous enough to acknowledge you. write back and say "thanks ,no thanks" or even "get lost looser" SOME type of acknowledgement. and if you are no longer interested.. SAY IT.

stop being cowards and hiding behind your anonymity. (both men and women)

if someone opens the door for you while walking into a store, do you say thank you ? or do you flip them off as you pass them ? not sending someone a reply is about the equivalent of flipping someone off. at least here on POF you can see if they read your message or not. the ones I really think are the epitome of arrogant are the ones that read --- "deleted - unread"

and YES, to answer the question as I know its coming back. I write back to everyone on here and say THANK YOU for your attention and the effort to contact me.

if you can not be courteous enough to people to even respond back.. do you really expect people to be nice to you ? you get what you give.

sadly.. it seems that some of the best, most lasting and deep conversations I have had with people online start with me going off on them and telling them off. they cant be bothered to respond to someone being nice. but they instantly defend themselves for being rude.


really.. the bigger problem I think is unresolvable. its a total decline in the morality and respectfulness of our society as a whole. the "ITS ALL ABOUT ME" attitude is so widespread that I think it is at a catastrophic level. I am fairly confident of my suspicion, that as people act online, rude, indifferent, cowardly, it is just a reflection of how they are in person... its really their true personality and they just express it more online.

and yes. in real life I have no problem telling people off or what I think about them. likewise you never have to question what I think or how I feel because I'm not afraid to say it. you know exactly what you need to know about me and there is no guesswork involved.
 KROPES
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 99 (view)
 
How many are in relationships made possible by POF, and how long as it been
Posted: 6/29/2006 4:57:47 AM
TO : exotica_33
i was gona write you an email and say the same thing. you only been on here a couple of months, yea ?
dont give up. this site rocks compared to all the others, and the people i have met here are MUCH nicer than on the other sites, and i have only been here a few weeks.

i WAS going to write you that... but you will not accept emails from someone outside of canada ! with a rockin site like this, you might meet someone that could be from anywhere in the world.

anyway..
dont give up.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 462 (view)
 
Do You Men Read Our Whole Profiles?
Posted: 6/7/2006 3:04:40 AM
Yes
I am new on the site, only a few weeks.
I do read an entire profile. every word of it.

but it seems the same question should apply to women as well. i have sent out a number of emails and see the "unread deleted" status for it.

yea.. thats a real ego booster. cant even be bothered to read what i took the time to thoughtfully compose.
 kropes
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Reports of unethical or fraudulent experiences w/ True.com?
Posted: 5/26/2006 2:48:49 AM
yes.

i can tell you stories. plenty of stories.

1) they do background checks.
what a lie.
i had an active paying account. then they started with the winks and russian brides. plus i never got responses from women.

wanting to see this background check in action, In December 2004, I created a FAKE account and sent myself (my real account) an email from the fake account all in under 3 minutes. (you cant do a criminal background check in 3 minutes). Today May 23rd, 2006 that fake account is still active on their system and comes up in the searches. I only used that account once and never since. It is still able to be found in their searches almost 2 years later.

you can see more details here. (plus about 300 photos i have taken)
http://www.curtswebpage.com/
 
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