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 Author Thread: Novels that are dramatically different from the films
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Novels that are dramatically different from the films
Posted: 11/7/2009 10:51:04 AM
One of the reasons movies often fail to capture the essence of the book, is money. A writer can imagine things that would be prohibitiviely expensive
to translate onto film, in terms of special effects, etc.

One thing that I have noticed over the years, is that the movies that are truest to the original novels (generally, not always) are those where the
screenplay was written by the book's author.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Abbotsford Halloween Party
Posted: 11/7/2009 9:23:17 AM
Great pictures!
And I am downloading the video as we speak (what a huge file! What program did you use?). I post my videos (personal & from our POF whitewater
rafting trips), on my own YouTube page. I also have a very cool YouTube downloader, in case I find anything else there of interest.

Did someone say you guys are planning a New Years' bash? I can hardly wait!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 50 (view)
 
Tennessee man accidentally killed via kinky bondage/cuckold fetish
Posted: 10/17/2009 12:04:33 AM
Thank you SherTenn, for updating us on this situation. I just checked google & Rebecca Bargy was convicted on May 20, 2009 of negligent homicide,
although originally charged with 2nd degree murder. She was sentenced to 18 months in prison.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 58 (view)
 
looks or profile, what attracks you first?
Posted: 10/15/2009 4:47:10 PM
And before anyone gets upset by this idea, please remember, we don't get to choose what turns us on, nor what turns us off. It's not a decision. After all, if I had my choice, I'd choose to get turned on by fat, ugly, smelly women with nasty attitudes. I'd be having so much sex that I'd have to quit my job. - sometimes-miss

While that is generally true, it isn't always true. We can learn to change our attraction preferences, to some extent. I know because I have actually done this.
When I was younger (say, 15-35), I preferred to date disabled/not working guys. Why? Because I was being a bit selfish & spoiled. My dad had his own
business, worked a lot, we hardly ever saw him. I wanted something different; someone fun, passionate & non-materialistic. It wasn't until my mid-20's/
early 30's, that I started trying to adjust this attitude, because it was really limiting
my dating pool.

A couple of other things: I used to be very self-conscious about my height. So I preferred short men (5'7" or under). I also preferred men with long hair.
As I got older, I became a lot more confident & more comfortable with myself. And therefore, height was no longer a problem for me. My last boyfriend was 5'11",
my last husband was 6'9". But it wasn't until I watched "Born on the 4th of July", that I realized that even though most men do look wonderful with longer hair
(as long as it is well-cared for), it is definitely NOT TRUE, of all men. Tom Cruise looks better with short hair, based on his cheekbones & the general bone structure
of his face. SO now, because of adjustments in my attitudes & my perceptions of what is attractive, I will date tall men & short haired men, if I choose to. Before I
would've been completely blind to their potential attractiveness. That's my experience, anyway.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 9 (view)
 
ABBOTSFORD VALLEY HALLOWEEN PARTY OCTOBER 31 2009
Posted: 10/14/2009 10:50:37 PM
As I am newly single, I am hopefully planning to attend my first Fraser Valley event.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Halloween
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:36:43 PM

do any of you recycle your costumes year after year or get new ones each year? - Mobiledj

I always saved my kids costumes for re-cycling, but don't have anything for me yet, except a witch's hat. Remember Lucy on "It's the Great
Pumpkin Charlie Brown"? You should always choose a costume that is the exact opposite of your personality!
ROFLMFAO!!

Seriously, I have been considering a long pink wig, maybe with some Vulcan ears? (I nearly got real ones, at a convention, back in 1991).
I would love to go dancing somewhere, since this is my first opportunity to go somewhere, since I became single again.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 112 (view)
 
Are men that cook better for a relationship?
Posted: 9/29/2009 11:22:17 AM
I suppose in couples that both work full-time, it would be terrific. I have always been a housewife, so it's outside my realm of experience. The thing that always
amuses me is the guys who brag "I can cook!", when their repertoire consists of hotdogs & Kraft dinner.
ROFLMFAO!!
My ex boyfriend can cook, but I can't stand vegetarian food & our tastes in compatible dishes are pretty different. Being able to cook together, is nice, though.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 319 (view)
 
New Serious Member Feature.
Posted: 9/27/2009 10:49:56 AM
I know I could favorite them but then I can't recall what they wrote at a future date, short of printing and creating files, who has time for that? - Me Leona

There's actually a simple way to do that. Use the "update note" feature in your favorites list. I do that so I can remember names & any other important or
pertinent info. Of course you lose all that information if the person deletes you, but that might just be a hint they aren't interested (especially now that
the number of favorites you're on, is gone from your profile - nice improvement btw, bigfish).

Personally, I wouldn't take anymore more "seriously" for being a serious member. Especially now that I've heard some people didn't pay for them in
the first place.

There's so many hundreds of free dating sites out there now, it's difficult for me to even understand why anyone would bother with a paid site, or a paid
membership. Seems stupid to me.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 124 (view)
 
Dancing With Another Man Besides Your Boyfriend/Spouse
Posted: 9/22/2009 2:57:42 PM
A lot of you women mention "asking permission".Look,if it wasn't a problem,you wouldn't feel the need to get or ask permission for anything.This is why I find it offensive for a woman to ask "is it ok if I dance with other guys"ARE YOU SERIOUS?I feel like Im just being tested.The last date that asked me that,I didnt even get mad and I said "Go ahead,you should do what you want,I cant control you but find yourself another ride home." - MrHonesty79

If I am out alone (this refers to when I was single, btw) & I saw a couple & wanted to dance with the guy, saw that his partner was not as interested in
dancing as him (reading body language), then I would ask HER permission, to ask him for a dance. Just to make sure she doesn't mind, isn't offended
or upset. It's called RESPECT!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 108 (view)
 
Thoughts and opinions on antidepressants
Posted: 9/22/2009 1:01:29 PM
I used to be on anti-depressants. I think that some drugs really do help. The real problem I think is misdiagnosis or people that think they have a Chemical Imbalance when they really don't. Not to mention Drug companies pushing their drugs onto your local M.D. - dscshift

That combined with the fact that almost all research is done or funded by the drug companies, skews things in "their" favour. And it's obvious that if you
DON'T have a chemical imbalance, what kind of havoc can such a drug cause, perhaps creating an imbalance, instead. Also I think the profit motive factors in,
& doctors are just being too damn lazy. Much more profitable & quicker to scribble out a quick prescription, rather than to take the time to actually help your
patient
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It simply acts as a magnifyer. It intensifies what is. - Bluesman2008

That's it exactly! It enhances the feelings, in a similar way to how salt enhances the flavours of other ingredients & spices, in food. So yeah, good idea to
avoid it when you are depressed. I stopped smoking for several years, for that very reason.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 203 (view)
 
Body Shapers, Pushup Bras, Tummy Tammers - Lying or looking good?
Posted: 9/21/2009 10:35:58 PM
I wear a bra, which in not natural and was something that was not even invented until maybe the 20's I think. I wonder how many men would want their wives and girlfriends to go au natural? I think the "I want my woman to be completely natural" men would quickly throw their stance right out the window the minute her boobies would be swinging free, jiggling and jumping in front of his guy friends and boss. I have a feeling that when they would not be able to take their eyes of her chest he would be singing a very different tune. - Rachelle~C

Most women didn't wear them in the 60s & 70s, p& personally I have never understood how they made a comeback. Fortunately, there are still plenty of
smart women who don't (me included). Even if I lost my mind & wanted to wear one, I have shoulder problems that make them an absolute no-no!

(first time I have ever been thankful for a health problem!) LOL
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 107 (view)
 
Dancing With Another Man Besides Your Boyfriend/Spouse
Posted: 9/21/2009 9:58:09 PM

I can already hear some women say "If my man was that insecure and controlling of what I do then I would dump him".But I say: "If my woman was that disrespectful to me then I would kick her to the curb". So who would be right here? - MrHonesty79

To be honest, MrHonesty79, both. I can't stand men that are controlling & most men (& women, for that matter), don't want a partner that is disrespectful).

Simple solution: Talk about it, before making the committment to become a couple. When I met my boyfriend (we met here nearly 4 years ago, btw). I
specifically asked him, if it would bother him, if I danced with other men. He answered "Yes". My reply: "Okay fine. But then, it is your job to take
me dancing". Now, we don't go dancing often, sicne there's very few good places in Abbotsford to do so. But he has made an effort, since he knows it's very
important to me. I go fishing with him in the summer, even though I do not care for it, at all. That's what love is about folks: keeping each other happy. JMO.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 34 (view)
 
Has society gone soft? Special behaviour schools for bullies
Posted: 9/18/2009 8:22:14 PM
I would certainly like to hear specific cases with citations to substantiate your claim. - Lint Spotter

The reason I mentioned it specifically, is that it has happened to me, as well as other people I know. My 3rd husband & I were pressured into taking "parenting
classes", when my mother complained that we used corporal punishment. As recently as 2003, I was involved in classes for parents of special needs children (2
of my younger children are autistic). We were told that even though "technically" legal, they still considered spanking to be child abuse. It may not be happening
in Ontario, but it is still happening in BC.

Oh & a girl friend of mine had her kids removed once, because her (then) teenaged daughter was assaulting her & she put up her hands (in front of her face)
& defended herself, accidentally breaking the daughter's arm. How crazy is that?!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 56 (view)
 
I can't believe I ate the whole thing!
Posted: 9/17/2009 3:37:24 PM
There was a 2-litre box of "Nuttin Better" ice cream on a hot evening.

I can't forget the solid 1-lb milk chocolate rabbit my wife bought one Easter. That actually made me sick. I suspect she was trying to kill me with abundance. - XHTML

Doesn't happen so much anymore, thankfully! I used to be able to eat those rabbits in one day, but not anymore.
Never had one make me sick, though.

I remember eating a 4-liter pail of chocolate ice-cream on a bet, when I was 18. Took me 2 & 1/2 hours. The next weekend I ate a
20 pound watermelon on a bet! KIDS!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Has society gone soft? Special behaviour schools for bullies
Posted: 9/17/2009 3:29:34 PM

I also recall that there was lobbying to remove the ability of parents to spank their children. Fortunately this one never passed - Lint Spotter

While it not illegal to spank, you can still lose cusody of your children, if Children's Protective Services gets a complaint. At a minimum, they will force you
to take "parenting classes" (coerced by the prospect of having the children apprehended), to teach you supposedly proper methods of discipline,
because it is still considered child abuse.

My son went to a school in Squamish that claimed to have a "zero-tolerance ploicy" on violence & fighting. But I certainly noticed that the principal was WAY
stricter punishing my son, than the bully that started the fights (& btw, I don't happen to agree with that aspect of the policy. Defending yourself is a totally
different thing than starting a fight, IMO). But things have improved somewhat from when I was in high school in Victoria (early 70s). Kids who were
picked on were usually told to develop a thicker skin, "get over it", ignore it", "it's not like they're doing something bad". Like, WTF?!?
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 51 (view)
 
AGE DIFFERENCE?
Posted: 9/16/2009 10:56:25 PM
Age differences are really irrelevant, most of the time. I dated a 35 year old man when I was 18 & my last husband was 12 years my junior. Age was not a
factor in the end of either relationship, nor ANY relationship I've been in. Maturity, being at different stages in life, yes. But most of those relationships, the
guy was the same age (+ or - 2 years!) If you are both looking for the same thing, whether it be LTR, casual dating, whatever; that is the truly determining
factor. Similar goals, common interests & shared values. Those are the really important criteria for determining compatibility.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 226 (view)
 
Let's get naked
Posted: 9/15/2009 1:29:58 PM
LMAO ... In answer to a man asking me if I still wear a two-piece bathing suit, I actually told him "Heavens No!!! I don't want anyone to go blind!!!" To which he said "I think you'd still look nice in a bikini."

So I bought one, wore it to the beach and have not put on a one-piece swimming suit since.

The day that I don't feel okay in my two-piece swimming suit ... then that will probably be when I start undressing in a closet ... if I have a partner - cotter

I had to buy a new bikini this summer, as my size has changed somewhat (no longer breast-feeding) Haven't bought one in over 10 years
The woman at Zellers was showing me these
one-piece suits that have a spandex "girdle" built into them!Ack!!
The day I would wear a one piece, I would probably be too heavy & out of shape to swim anyway. Thank goodness you listened to your man-friend, cotter.
I think we women are WAY too hard on ourselves. You don't look "a few extra pounds" at all, IMO. Speaking as someone reasonably objective, who is also "a few extra pounds". (I still think there should be another catgory in between "a few extra pounds & BBW. That's one heLL of a gap, IMO!)
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This happened to a lot of girls, even if the same was not put on the boys in the same family. When you are told over and over to cover this or that up always in that "tone" then you start to feel it is bad. - SmilingSalmon

Too true, we spend way too much time emphasizing the differences, instead of the similarities. We teach (well, not ALL of us), boys that taking a leak in a park is okay; they put urinals in public & school washrooms. I even discovered when we all went as a family to the Aquatic Center when my boys are young, even swimming pool change rooms, are different! How silly is that?! Although if I could change it, I would probably try the other direction. I would prefer boys to learn more body modesty, rather than girls less. JMO.
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For the sake of being real. Clothes don't hide that much. You can pretty much look at a person clothed and imagine how they look naked. So, whoever you're getting naked in front of shouldn't be too surprised. - TruGold

God, how I wish THAT were true! I don't know what kind of clothes you wear TruGold, but mine do an excellent job of hiding my excess.
Too much so sometimes, I think
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Do you ever see that commerical for the sports bra where the lady is handling a jack hammer? - maeflowers

I usually use the commercial breaks to eat or go to the bathroom, I'm afraid I missed that one! Sounds funny! I do collect funny commercials,
from an online download site. Some of them are just a hoot! Especially some of the banned ones.
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I'm thinking .... not all that many over 45 people (male or female) look as good undressed as dressed. - Ron9

Sad but true, Ron9 ) ) ) ) )
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 108 (view)
 
Exclusive dating???
Posted: 9/14/2009 6:52:20 PM
I was never asked, but would ask the guy. If he was already dating someone, I would tell him to get in touch with me when he wasn't. I only dated one guy at a time and wanted the same chance in return. I don't see it as a commitment, but giving each person the best chance you can give them. If the date didn't work out, you move on. If it did, you go again. Always seemed to work for me.

Dating too many guys at one time was too confusing to me and tiring. I didn't like it and don't feel I gave the men the best chance of it going anywhere. - eschec mat

I agree with you, eschec mat. I can usually tell after one date, especially if we have been chatting via email, IM &/or phone for a few days beforehand
(many are weeded out in the process & never end up on a first date); if I am interested enough to have a LTR with someone. If he needs more time, I might
consider a 2nd date, but unlikely, as it seems to me people with such differences would not be very compatible. JME.
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I don't get the point of it, really. You can really get to know someone fairly deeply, fairly quickly if it's a one on one focus, but if it's a multiple people scenario, it's just "dating lite" and seems rather pointless to me. - RenaissanceMan1950


I couldn't have put it better myself, RenaissanceMan1950!
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Reading the various differing opinions on this thread just reminded me of something similar. When I fisr started dating online (5 years ago), I was contacted
by this guy in California. We chatted for a couple weeks & were discussing the possibility of a visit, when he found out during a phone conversation that I was
on multiple free dating sites & talking with other people. He apparently only TALKS to one person at a time. He was so offended & upset by the difference in our
approaches, that he immeadiately put me in the "friend zone"! ROFLMFAO!! I think people should discuss these things before the date, so you know that you are on the same page (or not), no mis-understandings, mis-
interpretations, or inadvertently hurt feelings. Good communication is important in any relationship.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Men...Would you feel comfortable taking your wife's last NAME?
Posted: 9/11/2009 10:42:00 AM
OP: Firstly, it needs to be pointed out that the "system" is not designed for men to be able to take their wives name. So this would need to change first - just to give it as an option. - scorpio-dude

Don't know where you got that idea, scorpio-dude. When changes were made to the "Name Act" & the "Marriage Act" (both sections of Vital Statistics law,btw),
in 1985, to bring them in line with the Charter of Rights contained in our new Canadian Constitution; the system was changed to make it easier/possible for the
process to go both ways. The only problem that sometimes occurs, is sometimes people are not aware of the changes. When I was living in Squamish with my
4th husband (the one who took my name), I had to go to the government agent's office to send off the paperwork to Medical Services, to get his medical card
changed (the first step in changing over the ID, in this type of name change). The agent I spoke to was surprised that guys were able to do this. And someone
in the MSP office made a mistake & changed my card instead, so we had to get them to change mine back & then change his!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 133 (view)
 
Unemployed and lost home...
Posted: 9/7/2009 9:44:40 PM
It's all in how they approach their financial situation that matters to me. It may be a great time to learn about someone to see how they handle difficult situations. You may see they tend towards dishonesty or other negative traits ~ or ~ you may see them rally in a new creative direction that would be wildly sexy to watch them achieve. - crystalspirit

I quite agree with this. It can give you tremendous insight into a person's character, to see how they deal with difficult challenges in life.
I have never been middle-class or wealthy, so I don't put a lot of stock in materialism, anyway.
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I think if you are unemployed and homeless, about the last thing you should be doing is dating or looking for a relationship. You need to cover the basics first. It doesn't mean you shouldn't socialize, but it really doesn't sound like the time to be actively dating. - arwen52

Losing one's house doesn't neccessarily make one "homeless", there's always renting. But in any case, I would find this more nor less
appealing, since it would say to me this person shares some common values with me. Believing that the important things in life take
priority. After all one doesn't spent 24/7 "dating", there's no real reason a person can't do both that & look for work. Relationships
are important, too.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 67 (view)
 
After all these years, they're not yours!!!
Posted: 9/7/2009 4:29:44 PM

I would say that he needs to see a lawyer. If it's even possible, I think he should leave her and TAKE the children... but that may not be possible. - SoftAndHappy

I am not sure if the law is the same for common-law (you never mentioned if they are married OP), but if they are, in Canada, they would all 5 be
considered "a child of the marriage", therefore he is equally entitled to ask for custody. While myself, I think they would probably be better
off with him, a judge will not consider her being a slut, a good reason to take away her children. That doesn't neccessarily make her a bad mother,
just a rotten wife.
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He should ask her about it. Maybe she realised he was firing blanks and decided to get artificially inseminated without his knowing so that they could have the big family she'd always dreamed of, together, or so that she could give him the kids he wanted... whilst not confirming to him something that men frequently find hard to accept.

I'm not saying that for sure that was the explanation: how could I possibly know -- but I'm saying that sometimes people do things that look really bad but all along they had good intentions and you should try to find out. He's been married to her all this time... he should think well enough of her not to assume the worst. - rune3

As usual, rune3 has a very good point, one that I hadn't even thought of.

But the most important thing to recommend to your friend, stop having sex with her & get tested for HIV & other STDs, immeadiately!! Since she was
almost certainly (yes, I know birth control isn't 100% effective, but 3 times?!) having unprotected sex with at LEAST one other guy, she could've caught
just about anything. Especially if the guy knew she was married!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Anyone dated a disabled person before?
Posted: 9/6/2009 7:43:55 PM
I date a parapalygic 35 year old widower, when I was 18. I'll never forget on our first coffee date (we met via a personal newspaper ad, in 1979),
we are chatting about this & that, small talk, when he suddenly looks up, smiles & says "In case you were wondering, yes I can still have sex."
(I was wondering, but would never have had the nerve to ask!)

The reason(s) it didn't work out:
He hadn't taken enough time to get over his wife's death (6 months before) & wasn't really ready for a serious relationship, at that point. Also,
his kids hated me.
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Also, my last husband had scoliosis, which causes a great deal of pain, plus a lack of mobility.

I know that my boyfriend finds dealing with my disability(s), very difficult.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 124 (view)
 
Should a 42 year old male email a 31 year old lady ?
Posted: 9/3/2009 6:03:53 PM

Another redundant thought from me: email those you wish to email. If she doesn't have age restrictions on her profile it's probable she has no age-appropriate theories. JMO - verygreeneyez

True, many people have different ideas of what is age appropriate for them. However, people who are active in the forums (like me), or who host events
(ditto), often remove all their restrictions, to aid in convenience of communication.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 496 (view)
 
Why do women who show cleavage get upset when a guy stares at their breasts?
Posted: 8/30/2009 11:17:08 PM

Some women don't care if you look or not and would never get pi$$ed about it. The only thing that'd make me angry would be the assumption that my low-cut top means.. in your mind, anyway... that I'm a whore or stupid. - El_Mariachi

I don't mind if men look, I would be surprised if they didn't. But it isn't a license to be rude or boorish, either.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 35 (view)
 
What do you consider is the best feature of this site?
Posted: 8/29/2009 11:49:37 PM
The best feature that we still have: the forums. Although thanks very much Markus for making it much harder to find the most interesting forums. (sarcasm!!)
Having them on people's profiles made searching SO much easier. I had to figure out how to use the username search option on the main forum page. How tedious!

I do not miss the favorites' number on profiles, that was a very trouble-making & silly feature, IMO. But I do miss the IM.

If you are reading this Markus & want to know what features we'd love to see gone: the row of pictures at the top of the log in page!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Is Porn OK in a marriage?
Posted: 8/28/2009 7:33:54 PM
When my soon-to-be-ex didn't mind us having sex all over God's creation...how does she think I got that stirred up? Anyhow...she'll never know. - blueeyedguy2meet

I think that's the point, dude. She loves you, she gets turned on by you & you are getting turned on elsewhwere, which makes her feels ugly, useless &
undesireable. Very logical, from a woman's point of view. Some women, anyway. I think angelsback had a good point as well

I'd like to think that I'm all you need.


I think another factor is this:

she found out that I looked at porn and she totally freaked out

Naturally she's upset if she didn't know about it before your marriage. She now believes you are a deceitful, sneaky liar. And perhaps that you are so dishonest,
that she truly doesn't know you at all. Plus, totally untrustworthy, who knows WTF else you have been lying about?
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and I think kpooks also has a good point, for future reference:

If you're both OK with it, sure. Obviously she wasn't. Probably worth discussing this BEFORE marriage

I don't date guys who are into porn, so I can empathize with you wife (soon-to-be-ex). Poor girl
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 38 (view)
 
What do I do?
Posted: 8/28/2009 7:20:51 PM

I've never heard of someone meeting a wacko online. How could this have happened? - coveredinpaint

Welcome to the world of online dating, coveredinpaint. There are wackos here, just like everywhere else
It says here you just joined this July, so you are a newbie. I know many people who have met weirdos here, I have met one myself. There was even a case
last summer I think it was, where a woman met a guy here & it turned out he was wanted for murder! BigFish helped the cops catch him.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Height of children from tall man and short girl
Posted: 8/25/2009 10:47:20 AM
Height like many other genetically inherited traits, can be inherited from other ancestors (ie- grandparents, greatgrand-parents, etc), not just parents.
Reccessive genes as well as dominant, account for this.

My oldest son's father was 5'11", I am 5'6" & our son is 5'7".
My 3rd husband is 5'7", our son is 5'11 (I think, haven't measured him lately LOL).
However my last husband was 6'9". All 3 of our children (not grown yet), tower over kids the same age.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 25 (view)
 
PHOTOS from the POF white water rafting trip, May 30th 2009
Posted: 8/21/2009 12:43:48 PM

Too bad there are no pics or video footage of Michaelann falling into the water. Would have been interesting to see the process of falling out & getting back in again ... just for educational purposes of course. - FunnyAndSweet48

Yeah, I am sure that would've looked hilarious
Actually I am glad that it didn't happen where my boyfriend (who was also our photographer), could witness it. I am sure it would've upset him. Much
better to learn of it after I was back safe & sound.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
How long before you'd consider going away with someone on vacation
Posted: 8/21/2009 11:04:38 AM
I like to throw things in like that for shock value... I didnt mean anything by it... just wanted to make all you guys spit out your coke as you are reading this is all lol - mike the mench

People like you are the reason I NEVER eat or drink at the keyboard on PFO anymore! OMFG!
ROFLMFAO!!

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However, getting back to the original topic here:

Just wanted to get people's opinions on this. How long after you start dating would you consider going away with the person on an overnight vacation? Would you get seperate rooms? Just thought I'd like to hear people's opinions on this

I am seriously considering a cruise with someone I have been chatting with for several months, but haven't yet met. And no, I have no plans on having sex
with him, these cabins have 2 beds. I have spent the night with people before, who weren't romantic partners (yet), Since we are all grown up (in theory),
it really shouldn't be a problem. Goosd way to get to know someone, IMO.
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And I agree with Landra in post #4. What is the big deal about someone seeing me in a bikini, anyway? Seriously.
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I have never seen my wife in bikini (and we are married). She has only one piece swimming suits. Is it a problem? - midlandtom

If you don't think so, then the answer is no. I think he's referring to the fact that a lot of women are self-conscious about their figures. I personally hate
& wouldn't be caught dead in a one-piece bathing suit. But that is based on my personal taste & applies to no-one else but me. Although I am surprised
that your wife doesn't like bikins, she appears to be slender & pretty. But we all like different things, that part of what makes life interesting.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 16 (view)
 
moments of horror and hilarity
Posted: 8/21/2009 10:48:31 AM
I have found guys to be a bit more honest about body type than apparently most women are - farmlife4me

While I have found this to be true. I have noticed that men sometimes fudge about age & height. I met a 6' tall (supposedly) man who is shorter than me!
(I am 5'6", btw) Did he think I wouldn't notice? OMFG!

One guy I met here 5 years ago, I took one look & thought it was the father of the guy I was expecting to meet. He claims he's my age, but he's completely
gray & his photo shows a man with BROWN hair, with a touch of gray! Even if he isn't lying about his age (I am quite aware that early gray is genetic, can't
be helped sometimes), he surely must be aware that using that photo, is a LIE!
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My absolute worst POF date, was a guy who IM'ed me because he read in my profile that I loved dancing. I had free tickets to a local dance club (this is when
I was still living in Vancouver, btw), we met & danced for several hours. When midnight came I said I had to leave to catch the Skytrain home. He offered to
walk me to the station, which I thought was un-neccessary, but nice. Kind-of sweet, even. We walked by his building & he asked me if I would like to come in for
a quick drink. He assured me he "wouldn't try anything". Yeah I know, dumb to believe that!
Anyway, as soon as we are in the door, he turns into an octopus! I ended up getting out of the situation with nothing worse than a black eye, by hurling
a lamp against a neighbour's wall. He called the cops.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Realism vs Optimism
Posted: 8/20/2009 3:57:27 PM
I have always been annoyed as HeLL by the whole "glass 1/2 full/1/2 empty, optomist/pessimist/realist, whatever, BS."
Here's my personal take on it, quoted from my profile:

And btw, for all those who wonder if I am a glass 1/2 full kind-of girl: Rather than descend into a philosophical
arguement, I would much rather raise said glass in a toast:
Here's to everyone, starting with us.
(Btw, from both a logical & a mathematical point of view: It's BOTH! If it's half-full, well then, the other half
is gonna be empty!

ROFLMFAO!!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Hugs: Harmless or Meaningful
Posted: 8/20/2009 12:05:42 PM
I'm very aware that I"m totally overanalyzing, but for once I would actually like a second date and would like to fast forward a week or so to know where I stand ha ha I wish. - MusakJunkie

I think a hug's intention varies a lot from person to person, so it's really difficult to tell what to think especially with a new person that you don't really know
well, yet. I used to hug all my friends when I was younger, not so much in recent years (not sure why). So it might mean something good, or not. Hard to tell.

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Of course it could also of been a "I don't want to kiss you because I didn't like you. Therefore I'll hug you and never contact you again" - Connor-19

Now I have to admit, this would NEVER have occurred to me. If I wasn't interested enough to kiss someone, or go out with them again, I would certainly have
no desire to hug them. For me, there is a slight hint of intimacy/intent/attraction there. But that's just my viewpoint on the subject.
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EDIT> Just remembered something. One reason I am wary of giving a first-date hug, is something I noticed on a first date, about 5 years ago. Some men (especially
if they have been single for a long while), will find it VERY arousing, which can be uncomfortable, awkward & embarrassing.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 40 (view)
 
How important is sameness to you at this stage of the game?
Posted: 8/20/2009 10:38:00 AM
I'm so 'different'... where would I ever find anyone like me?

I'm serious. And not just because of the wheel chair.

So, I've tried to get to know men who are not "on my wave length", so to speak.

It just doesn't feel comfortable.

Even with there being "enough of that person that you do like".. at the end of the day, I realize it's not really "enough". - v

OMG, this so sounds like me, breath~!! Someone who is a "good fit" emotionally, spiritually, mentally, even sexually, is SO important. More than you realize
until you find someone who is so NOT a good fit. A good person, but a bad fit for you.
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you may wish to consider compatibility as well. if you tend to take life's knocks in stride and you end up with someone who flips out all the time, how will you handle that? do you take the view that 'well, it's just their way of dealing with things?' or does that really grate on your nerves and drain you energetically? - junipermoon

This is a perfect example of what I meant, yes!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Hilarioiusly bad communication blunders/misunderstandings
Posted: 8/18/2009 11:45:58 PM
^ that is SO funny, barbee1970 & totally reminds me of a funny thing that happened when I was first separated (5 years ago). I was visiting my son's
family & a friend of his, a black guy about 25, was flirting with me; which had my son totally weirded out!
My sons orders some KFC & hands me a drumstick. And I said "Dude, you know I don't like dark meat." And he replies, "Mom, that really sounds nasty
& racist." I could cheerfully have strangled him, I was so embarrassed!
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Exploding Ipods
Posted: 8/18/2009 11:26:22 AM
My MP3 player is a Sony network Walkman, not an Ipod. It never gets hot & carry it in my fanny pack, or occassionally in my pocket.

My boyfriend recently bought some type of cooling pad, for his laptop, from Future Shop.
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If you sit down and read the instructions that come with these devices they have very clear guidelines for "recommended use". Quite often they seem ridiculous, and inconvenient for normal use, but they are designed to protect users, and more importantly limit liability of the manufacturer. - Phuqd

I do agree that some "recommended guidelines", come across as being ludicrous. I once bought a pair of cheap headphones for my MP3 player/walkman
& discman. The recommendations include avoiding getting them wet! Walking around Vancouver in the spring, winter or fall, that is pretty much un-avoidable.
They must've gotten a lot of complaints, because I have noticed they are better designed now & no longer carry that un-realistic warning.

I also used to get an annoying static-y buzz interupting my music, every time someone nearby used a cellphone. Doesn't happene any more either.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 6 (view)
 
How safe are the POF Get togethers?
Posted: 8/17/2009 7:31:29 AM
Revan46, there are a great many other free sites out there, but we are not allowed to post web addresses on the forums. Check your email, my friend.
And btw, while RenaissanceMan1950's first post may have come across the wrong way, I can see his point. Even though I am very open-minded & have
many gay & transgendered friends, I do feel grossed out, when being hit on by lesbians. No offense intended to anyone, & yes, we all deserve to find
love.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Your personal forum history
Posted: 8/16/2009 9:23:11 AM
I often read a posters history, to get a better sense of who they are. If I am ever "single & looking" again, I think it would be a very useful dating.
As it is, it has make me curious enough to contact some people here (& they, me) & some terrific friendsships have developed. And since I have
memory problems due to a MTBI (mild traumatic brain injury), I sometimes re-read my own, to help me remember things. I save all my MSN, Yahoo
& Skype chats, as well, for the same reason.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Is she too young for me?
Posted: 8/13/2009 10:09:15 AM

Op....

If she's happy, and you're happy - go for it!

Why some people feel the need to get the approval of others in love is totally beyond me!

Grow some balls.

If you don't have the self confidence to pursue this, then you don't deserve her. - 8soldierfalcon8

I agree with you here 8soldierfalcon8, but


PS - listening to older ladies who are bitter about their age would be a BAD idea. It's a huge double standards on this site that women who say it's wrong for an older man to date a younger women are totally okay with cougars.

The really messed up thing about that is that the older man dating a younger woman thing can lead to marriage. It's about a committed relationship.

Cougars just get sex.

While that appears to be the currently accepted (pervertion) of the definition of a cougar, that's not neccessarily the case at all. Look at Demi Moore & Ashton Kusher, for example. You are right that the double standard is bull$hit, however.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 56 (view)
 
Should I go out with a guy 16 years younger?
Posted: 8/12/2009 1:29:39 PM
Ummm, first of all, why would you automatically assume that I would even have sex with the guy? I was only questioning whether I should talk to him on the phone and perhaps go see a movie. No way would I ever have sex with someone 16 years younger than me! That is sooooo ewwwww!

I don't really see it going anywhere because of the age difference, just wondered if I should waste any of my time even talking on the phone getting to know him and a casual dinner or movie thing. - Houstongirl2

I think the quote below from your original post, along with the fact that your profile states you are looking for "long term", is what gave people the wrong
impression. Why would someone looking for "long term" date someone "just for a movie & talking on the phone". That would certainly be a waste of both
your' time. And unfortunately, a lot of people nowadasy (especially younger ones), think casual dating = sex. Surpises the hell out of me, but that's what
I have been seeing, the last few years & also, reading here in the forums.


We have spoken on the phone a couple of times since, should I leave it at that or give him a chance? He seems like a really nice guy, we have great conversation and he lives close to me. - Houstongirl2
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Do you discriminate based on age?
Posted: 8/6/2009 10:17:40 AM
Is there a disparity in age that you find to be too much, regardless of what you've listed in your acceptable age range?

I'm not sure how I feel on the subject, and would like to get some opinions. Everyone is different, and some people are very mature for their age. On the other hand, others can be immature for their age. Some are young at heart, regardless of the age difference. However, this being such an impersonal medium, it is hard to gauge compatibility with a few words and pictures. Some are automatically overlooked when viewed based simply on age, or the impression that age gives.

Personally I have tried to overlook age, regardless of who messages me. However, at the point when it is time to either meet, or simply say you are concerned about the age difference, how would you decide to proceed? - David_824

To answer honestly, yes & no. My natural preference seems to have changed as I have gotten older. While in my teens/early 20s, I prefered
someone up to 10 or more years older. Mid 20's - early 30's, closer to my age. Mid 30's & up, a broad mix, but more often younger. In fact my
last last husband was 12 years younger than me. A lot of it is personality rather than activity level, as I am disabled & not very active. And I
have found a lot of guys my age don't like dancing!

However, the downside of dating younger is I can't have any more kids & many younger guys still want them. Not really fair. So while I am
open to dating younger men, I am also very cautious about it.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 17 (view)
 
A 'Cold' World..
Posted: 8/5/2009 7:48:44 PM

One cannot get the nuance of the others voice, nor can you hear the passion for something they love. A world consisting of messengers and texting?...Not for me..I prefer that old fashioned device known as the telephone. - VancouverDan40

I partly agree with you, VancouverDan40. I don't even have a cell phone anymore & never learned how to text. If I ever got a cell phone, first thing I would do,
is disable texting! However, if you like hearing the sound of the person's voice, that can be done via IM. I do it all the time on MSN, Yahoo & Skype. If your
computer already has speakers or headphones, all you need do is head down the nearest Dollar Giant & buy a microphone (one warning, I don't know about
dogs, but cats like to chew wires sometimes. Put them away when not in use!)

And the one advantage IMs have over the phone (okay wrong, there's 2) is that if your friend/partner is far away (business, whatever), no long distance charges!
And it can also be used with a webcam, which gives you the added visual dimension.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 80 (view)
 
Still on the market?
Posted: 8/5/2009 7:28:53 PM
What about in dating, do you say something like, hey I’m still dating others to make up my mind, do you say anything to the person that you are dating, do you say to others hey I am dating but nothing serious yet so lets go out, do you say to others sorry I’m seeing someone at the moment thanks but no thanks. - TrueSamurai

A lot of people do this differently. Personally, I only date one person at a time. I generally email, chat via IM, or the phone for a bit (1 or 2 days,
perhaps more, depending), & then if we are both interested, meet. I already have a pretty good general idea from our conversations, how compatible
we might be. Chemistry will indicate whether or not I am interested in a LTR. And yes, 1 date is usually enough, at least for me it is. If he feels differently
(wants to date around, take forever to decide, etc) clearly we are not on the same page. So I throw him back! Next!

When I was first on this site, I often had between 3 & 6 dates, in each weekend. It slowed down after the first couple of months, but rarely a week
went by without at least 1 date. It takes time & patience to find the right one.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 23 (view)
 
ungreatfull drivers!
Posted: 8/5/2009 5:52:40 PM
After reading this thread, I am SO F*cking glad I ride my bike or take the bus!

And what's up with drivers turning left, they check both ways for cars, but neglect to see if someone might be in the crosswalk?!?
I nearly got hit 3 times in the same week, & Abbotsford is growing, but is still much smaller than Vancouver.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Health issues and finding a partner at our age
Posted: 8/5/2009 10:11:43 AM
I do have health issues and I made that very clear on my profile, since for some men it would definitely be a problem. What I found surprising is that a great many men DON'T find it a problem. - ForumFilly

Very brave of you, ForumFilly. While I have not disclosed on my profile, I do generally bring it up in either the first couple of emails or IMs.
Definitely before we meet. Because it is a problem for some & why waste each other's time, if so.

However OP, my situation is a little different that your original question, as my health problems are not a recent developement. I was
diagnosed with arthritis when I was 18 years old & with fibromyalgia & CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome)in my early 30s.

And while I agree with this to some extent:

and I think most of us want to be with someone who is in relatively the same health as ourselves.

it isn't always a realistic goal & I would imagine that HOW important a factor it is in assessing compatibility, would vary from one individual to
the next. JMO.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Should you lie....?
Posted: 8/3/2009 7:39:27 PM

I did not care if I ever saw him again, but the personal attack (freaked out?) really hurt. Should I have lied? - vicxstar

Okay, I have 3 different things to say regarding this:
#1) It's difficult to imagine that you are truly over this, if something as trivial as he saying he was "freaked out", really hurt you.
#2) The guy is a real wuss, getting freaked out so easily. Good riddance!
#3) No, you shouldn't have lied, but you should be able to tell someone to MYOB, without it being a problem.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 56 (view)
 
Ever heard Big girl vaginas are tighter than thin girls is this true??
Posted: 7/31/2009 11:47:12 PM
Ever heard " Big girl vaginas are tighter than thin girls" is this true?? - RTrev23

I have never heard of this theory, I have however, heard the opposite theory. I have my own theory & that is that when a guy "thinks
you are big", he
may just be looking at it from the wrong point of view

However, abelian's theory (above ^), makes sense to me, since I know there are muscles in there. Doctors even give you excercises
after childbirth (keigels?) to help tone things up again.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 10 (view)
 
She said / He said - actual non POF date
Posted: 7/31/2009 5:43:50 PM
Sometimes it is not what one says, but rather how they say it - I-know-what-I-want

Yes, but some people just don't give damn if their opinion is stated in a blunt & tactless manner. Personally,
I would prefer someone who would buy something inexpensive & sensible (I have a friend with a Freeway);
or even live close enough to their workplace to cycle or walk. I even like solar/wind vehichles & electric.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 56 (view)
 
WHATS THE WORST DATE YOU HAD ON POF
Posted: 7/31/2009 5:31:41 PM

Can I get some clarification on your post please?

Because she's overweight, she should stay at least 10 years of a "wife beater" and should be prohibited from purchasing or wearing one...

I'm thinking a "wife beater" is a guy who physically abuses his spouse, but that wouldn't follow from your post unless they sell guys like this in your local market and you can don them like you would a shirt. And the part about staying 10 yards away from one of them defies explanation no matter how you slice and dice it. - CityDeer Park

Just to clarify, the term "wife beater" refers to a man's white tank top/undershirt style shirt. I have no idea where this silly expression came from.
He is (I think) referring to his opinion that a skimpy-cut shirt doesn't look all that appealing, on someone who is very overweight/obese.
 Michaelann
Joined: 9/11/2004
Msg: 92 (view)
 
Ladies would you date a Vegan, Vegetarian?
Posted: 7/30/2009 9:12:21 PM

I PREFER to date a vegan or vegetarian. They are typically much more compassionate, kind, caring, healthy, intelligent, and non-obese compared to meat eaters. - veganali

Mostly true, but my vegetarian is "a few extra pounds"
It can work if only one person is vegetarian, but it can make living together pretty challenging
 
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