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casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Canada's answer to the missile shileld -- the chicekn cannon! Posted: 12/31/2004 8:57:34 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR elwood !!!

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/31/2004 8:08:48 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE elwood you have no idea absolutely NONE when it comes to Bushs service record. You have NO clue how the Military works, join and learn, then post on what you're trying to call AWOL. I'm not going to re post what some one else explained once already in another post how that works. People will find it boring. But stop trying to spread that bold face lie and that's a fact. You can pull what ever crap you want from a website. Pull it from a military site its a matter of public record. You cant and wont so don't even try the AWOL and we wont mention Kerry throwing his medals out or his participation in war crimes in Vietnam, that he fail to report at the time and only found it convenient now to bring up. You know absolutely nothing about the military, like I said enlist and get back with me, then Ill sit by and let you spuu on that issue.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Canada's answer to the missile shileld -- the chicekn cannon! Posted: 12/31/2004 7:58:26 PM
LMAO Happy NEW YEAR you keep the party going LOL

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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To UN or not to UN Posted: 12/31/2004 7:53:23 PM
LOL almost forgot yea work him (Bush) in any where ya can. Like I said his fault for everything, he's been around since the birth of the UN him and all the puppet masters run the UN too. I think they even started the UN. You really give Bush more credit than you think to be so masterful in doing everything that's wrong in the world today. guess he's not so mentally ill eh? Wait that doesn't support that argument we'll have to reword that some how to make it work, I'll get back with ya on that. Lets try to stay on whether the UN is relevant and the pros and cons. There's more than one UN leader in there.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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To UN or not to UN Posted: 12/31/2004 7:46:22 PM
Back pedal LOL please re read, NO where have I said to dissolve the UN, twice I said UN needs a overhaul and they don't do much good as they sit now. Where does it say I said dissolve the UN again? Anyone else see me back pedal? And you wonder why you cant get people to change their point of views to yours? Maybe because IF I/others did you want to call me/them out on it? I'm sorry I forgot I'm labeled a Republican from other posts in your eyes and I MUST keep that path I MUST NOT DEVIATE FROM MY OBJECTIVE (said the drone). But ok what ever helps you sleep at night, its all good. BTW everyone have a GREAT NEW YEAR!!!

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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oooh gosh! the big bad haters are coming to beat me up! I'm so scared! Posted: 12/31/2004 7:23:22 PM
lol ok u2 I respect both of your views and debates so I cant and wont agree or disagree with either of yas. I'm playing Switzerland on this one lol. But seriously what ever the persons issue is he should atleast bring it to the table and not go in the back door that's weak and shows no character. And personally igootoosu I don think you've been that bad at posting, cant say I agree with you all the time but hey if I did we all would be drones.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/31/2004 7:02:34 PM
Yes your right igotoosu, it is getting broad and off topic. I'm just getting tired of the Bush bashing on every topic being brought in and used. And as I said I'm NOT a Republican I voted for Clinton twice. But I wont sit by and watch someone try to blame Bush for everything that's wrong in every stinkin topic. I will try to do better igotoosu my Democratic friend and I mean that in a good way.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/31/2004 6:48:35 PM
YAWN!! Now ya bring FOX news into since I agreed it was a Republican channel. Well if you need to know I watch CNN and local channels such as NBC and ABC for news with one sides. I have a brain so I can deduct the BS from what's worthy of noting.I have probably gone at watched FOX twice in my life. But you seem to think you know me so maybe I am watching FOX, can you please tell me when so I can consciously wake up and get something from it? FACT Bush is the ONLY president to have a MBA, your answer it can be bought (try a new argument) FACT Secretary of state already stated he said what he believed in, your answer that's what he was told to say (try a new argument) FACT Bush went to war, your answer for oil ( try a new argument that's debatable but in your mind its not, and we are stupid if we disagree) NON FACTUAL (since you like cut and paste..)"Edwards twice accused the administration of having "lobbied the Congress" to cut the combat pay of troops in Iraq, when in fact the White House never supported such a plan. Rather, the Defense Department proposed allowing a temporary pay increase for all troops worldwide (even those not in Iraq or Afghanistan) to expire, and promised to maintain current pay levels for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan with separate pay raises if necessary." FACT ONLY Congress can do this, wasn't Congress majority Democrat if and when this was a issue? FACT only you and other Bush haters claim he broke the SALT agreement USSR doesn't seem to be at that end of the argument for you. I would call the USSR up and ask them to support you. FACT Congress (which was Democratically majority at the time) approved 130 billion dollars for the missile defense system, and 5 out of 9 where failures but then again how many times does it take to make anything right the 1st time? Oops this is Bush its suppose to work right the 1st time boy is he a dumb a**. I do have to thank you though I have found a website in my search on what you called facts, where there's actually young high school kids and college kids talking about how they are being brain washed by the Liberal Media and how they are made to feel ashamed to be Republican with most of their peers. But then again you would say that's ok, because we live in a free world and all.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/31/2004 5:56:06 PM
Yea bowvalleymike its not just one site hes pulling info from. Every post he has to express his haterad for Bush, and how the worlds woes are Bushs fault. He seems to be finding a way to work them in discussions. Im going to check the "Age......kids and yours" forum maybe he worked it in there to. Poetic I owe you a apoligy. I reread some posts and it was my mistake it was not you who continuely agreed with the mud slinging........ I am sorry.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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To UN or not to UN Posted: 12/31/2004 5:39:41 PM
And again we have the Bush hater bringing Bush here to. I should blame him for everything in my life too, it certainly would be easy. Maybe he caused the Tidal wave? I'm sure we can find a way to blame him for that sad sad tragedy.Seems we all are ignorant when we don't agree with a point of view now. But back to the UN I wouldn't say dissolve the UN and I'm not so sure it would be in our best interest or the worlds. Its a great stage for nations to speak together even when they cant bring themselves too behind doors. I think it has grown to large to be as effective and should trim some fat so to speak. As for contributing in relief, Bosnia is the 1st thing to come to mind. I've never seen a organization back peddle so fast when shots start going. Their effectiveness right now is pretty lame.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/31/2004 5:25:40 PM
^Ditto^ guiterman, heaven forbidd someone have a orignal thought out here. Keep posting I enjoy (as its been said) a fresh out look.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/31/2004 5:19:39 PM
yep you are correct about FOX can you name another hmmmmmmm lets see nope. Casper: Clinton balanced the budget and Bush's recession didn't start until after he was in office 9 months. He's wasted all that money he gave as "tax cuts" because it's not a cut in taxes. It all has to be paid back because it didn't stimulate the economy. Ummm yep like I said. Doesn't happen in 9 months either. Sorry I know you wish it could but in reality it doesn't work that way. I'm frustrated because one can't get through to a person like you. You ignore facts like these and keep on coming back with the old, weak arguments. Why don't you read? And I'm sure I can say the same for you, specially when you cut and paste from a democrats website. Weak? do you have any original thoughts or just ones you can find on the net? usually when someone makes this comment they know they don't have a leg to stand on so the easy cop out attitude is exactly what you usually post. "what ever", "weak", "you don't know what your talking about", "read" you really hate when you cant argue with informed people don't you? Oops thats right Im not informed because I dont believe in your beliefs. Im sorry I have my own mind my bad, I dont have to frequent a Political based website to feed my mind.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/31/2004 3:45:25 PM
FP your in sight is interesting, unfortunately when you disagree with a Democrat that's when you put the big orange target on your head. What's funny is your giving a open honest opinion and since its not theirs your labeled as knowing nothing. I agree with you about the American Ego though, just read the forums and myself am guilty of this. That's the real issue that the world has with us. Bush just is lucky enough to get to be the target right now. As for WW2 being not worthy of mentioning when countries go against the grain, you should really talk to the ones who lived it. It was and still is a big deal there was alot to lose. Fortunately for us we are not old enough to really be able to relate to what was happening at that time. As for the jab at my IQ compared to Bush, first I wont comment since you wouldn't believe what it is and its really none of your business. Second IQ tests doesn't revolve around being able to express yourself, writing or publicly speaking. Take a look at one a get with me, and not a online one those are jokes. Elwood what's happening to you? I've notice you've been getting to be frustrated at the name calling or indicating they have no brain lately on the forums when people post what you don't believe. This isn't like you. Poetic well you just agree when someone gets insulted because you feel it justifies your ideals. You cant even disagree with another Democrat can ya? Read other peoples posts around here even some republicans can disagree with one another. Journalism, I wont knock your profession its honest work, but its usually one sided and sold as being impartial. That's impossible because your human, and media needs what sells. As for Clinton and his economics LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! Yea thanks for the economic bubble that's burst Enron telecomm anyone? That doesn't happen in a 1yr, the 1st yr of Bushes office. As for Clinton not being as corrupt as Bush, maybe if you spent as much time digging up dirt on Bush and spend it on Clinton, you would see how wrong that statement is. This is always a two way street. As for Bushs mental illness, call him stupid all you want to make yourself feel better. Someone stupid doesn't get as far as he does and where hes at with no brain. But your reply will be money buys everything, yep that's a old hippy reply, hear it from my parents all the time. I'm sorry I think old fashion hard work gets you further in life, I'm not going to sit around feeling sorry for myself and blame "the man" or evil corporations for my short falls. To many have climbed out of nothing in this country including previous presidents and have made a real difference. As for the puppet master theory we can go all day on conspiracy theories but that's another thread. You should really read up on American politics, its always a give and take, dealings are always done in trade offs, and the ones who don't agree with the trade offs think a puppet master is hard at work. One last thing some one indicated that the media was corporate own and indicted it was pro Bush? I have no idea what TV you where watching before the election, allot of Kerry's faults where glossed over and Bushes faults dissected. Your right on the media owned corporations though MTV a well known Democratic media source which donated to the Kerry campaign. A little side bar on MTV its major financers are from the middle east. But they don't believe in western ideals, oops did I say that out loud? FP you keep posting because whether I agree or disagree with you I enjoy reading a objective point a view.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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To UN or not to UN Posted: 12/30/2004 9:48:03 PM
Thats a good point, see debate does some good :) for those who had doubts.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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To UN or not to UN Posted: 12/30/2004 9:33:55 PM
Unfortunatly igotoosu Ive been hearing that since I was in the 3rd grade and I personally dont see it happening unless the UN was revamped and seriously over hauled. It is a nice dream but I personally dont see it happening since every country cant even agree with each other not even within thier own borders. I would say maybe thousands of yrs down the road but by then itll be called the United Federation lol

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/30/2004 9:25:39 PM
I agree with..we have a lack of choices FalseProphet I always have. And it does stink, but I can speak for myself I vote either way, I like to think Im a realist. I am Not a Republician, Democrat, Liberal or independant. I vote for the lesser of two evils, in my eyes. There isnt a policitian in this world ever born that had a clean record or back ground. Fact of life.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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THE DEBATE ABOUT IRAQ -- READ THIS AND THINK Posted: 12/30/2004 9:05:49 PM
I had to share this, its just for you my paddler friend who (from reading other of ur posts) like to bash America. What Im about to cut and paste is from a Canadian site who is against the Iraq war. Here it is: Canada's "Secret" Contribution to the War in Iraq By Richard Sanders The breaking story today is that a few Canadian troops are fighting on the ground in Iraq. This, however, is only the tip of the iceberg. The truth is that Canada stands as the third strongest contributor to US forces in the Iraq war, after Britain and Australia. Isn't it amazing how Canada can contribute so much to this war without even being involved? Earlier this week (March 25), the US Ambassador to Canada, Paul Cellucci, told the Economic Club in Toronto that he was "disappointed" that Canada failed to join in the US-led war against Iraq. His was one of a huge chorus of voices critiquing Canada for refusing to participate in the "Coalition of the Willing." (This was not the first time a US Ambassador to Canada meddled in our affairs. See the note at the end of this email about the US-backed regime change in Canada 40 years ago.) The most significant statement in Ambassador Cellucci's speech was his observation that Canada is currently giving more military support to the US for its war against Iraq than most of the nations that are officially supporting the war! He said: "Ironically, the Canadians indirectly provide more support for us in Iraq than most of those 46 countries that are fully supporting us. It's kind of an odd situation." Yes, Paul, it is a kind of odd isn't it? Ironic indeed! Or is it? Perhaps this is exactly what we should always expect from the Liberal government. After all, the Liberals have always done as much as they possibly can to promote war and profit from it, while simultaneously working to create the appearance that they stand for peace. Thanks to the mainstream media, the lie that Canada is NOT involved in this war has spread like wildfire through Canada. It has also spread through the US as well, at least as much as any information about Canada can permeate into American consciousness. This is yet another example of a successful media campaign conducted by the Canadian government to perpetuate the underlying myth that Canada is a world-class peacemaker. Chrétien kept Canadians on the edge of their seats for months. Everyone was wondering whether the Liberals would support the war or not? The litmus test used to determine the answer to this question was rigged. It was made to look as if the question of Canada's support was hinged on whether we'd send land troops and warplanes into this war. When Canada didn't contribute in those two particular ways, it was broadcast wide and far across the nation and the world that Canada didn't endorse the war. Brilliant!!! The fact, of course, is that Canada IS aiding and abetting this criminal war, albeit not in the specific ways that the litmus test was designed to detect. Canada IS very deeply complicit, and -- as confirmed by Paul Cellucci this week Canada is MORE complicit most. Compared to most others in the gang that have gathered around the US bully, Canada is acting above and beyond the call of duty. The only condition of our participation is that the US plays along with Canada's desire to keep our role very hush-hush. While publicly, the Canadian government is pretending to have taken the moral high ground by opposing this war, simultaneously -- behind the scenes -- it is doing everything it possibly can to give as much support as possible to aid and abet this illegal US war. Canada's Support for the War Canada is by far the leading member of that group of nations that secretly support the "Coalition of the Willing" but who wish to remain nameless. Intresting reading isnt it? It even went into detail on how and what Canada contributes but is way to long to post. I have even met a few Canadains over there myself. I enjoy the bashing but no countries hands are clean, the US is just the bigger target for bashing because it has become a beloved favorite world past time these days.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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THE DEBATE ABOUT IRAQ -- READ THIS AND THINK Posted: 12/30/2004 8:23:53 PM
FictionWriter901 Excellent post! paddler you should find out what positions Canada's mother land UK has before you bash America on theirs. I have never heard the saying "The sun never sets on the American Empire", but it has been said on several occasions for the UK which Canada does still recognize as their birth and still hails the UK Queen. Nothing wrong with the Uk or Canada but dont bash us when UK and France have the same. To answer your question yes we would, and I know you or alot of others dont agree with me and thats ok. But I can name quite a few other wars we are in currently or have been in that has/had nothing to do with oil. Im sorry the media doesn't play on those wars but who wants to report on human atrocities happening in the world.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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To UN or not to UN Posted: 12/30/2004 7:52:46 PM
Lets here the thoughts on the UN, for or against? Pros/Cons I believe the UN doesnt seem to much to better the world, and takes the attitude of live and let live, but keep the money flowing through the UN doors. Live and let live is a good theory but when do you draw the line when countries commit genocide on their own people? Should the UN stand by? Reason why Im asking is the hot thing in the news right now is the US being frowned on for wanting to form a coalition with Australia, India, and Japan to help with the Tidal wave disaster. Instead of trusting the UN with the funds like it did with the food for oil, and that turned into lining UN officials pockets.

casperlcaf

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Boycott corporate America... Posted: 12/30/2004 7:38:50 PM
lol there ya go you already should have knowledge on plant growth lol

casperlcaf

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Why do people need to debate in forums? Why don't they just shut up and do something? Posted: 12/30/2004 7:33:53 PM
Yes I have disagreed with you elwood but you have every right to say how ya feel and post on the forums. Last I checked thats what its for specially under the current events section. Those who complain about debates probably feel left out since they have nothing to contribute. Or maybe thats how they want to spend there time on the forums, complaining lol.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/30/2004 7:24:41 PM
LOL threw out a King?!?!? Didnt he have a crown or something? Atleast a King ID card lol. And yep you shoulda waited times have changed my old salty dog times have changed. BootCamp is a joke to no degrading words all they have left is to PT or IT you and even then medical can get you out of those.

casperlcaf

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Boycott corporate America... Posted: 12/30/2004 7:17:16 PM
LOL amazing how just about every post ends up with a anti Iraq war post. Simply amazing, so Im going to actually stay on the topic, and not start that debate here to. I agree with igtoosu, kinda hard to boycott corporate America since that would mean growing your own food, turning off your utilities and that would include your internet, make your own cloths, and ride a bike. Sounds like you would have to be Amish, God bless em I couldnt live that way, although at times is a happy thought. You did the right thing by stop spending your money there and voicing your opinion. As frustrating as it is, you felt it did no good. I have done the same, but ya know obviously they have p*ssed someone else off as you read on the sidewalk. They keep doing it they wont have revenue. Bout all ya can do is spend your cash at the competitors, and know you have self justification for it. And I to have boycotted CC such a money leech.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Legal System - advice please Posted: 12/30/2004 7:03:08 PM
I dont think Philippines drug laws have much to do with US laws. Is the court he is being sentenced at a local court? Or has he been charged and sentenced by different courts? In the same state? If its local court who keeps giving him a light sentence you should write to the prosecuting attorneys office and ask that a harsher sentence be done for the good of the public. Believe it or not it does help. Sounds like he has a drug issue that is the cause of the other violations. the longer he stays in they longer he is clean and the longer he is clean the greater his chances are to stay clean. Yes some go in and come out worse but not all. A drug farm deals with just that drug offences and they know what they are looking for and how to help better than a jail or prison would. If its a state court, same thing write to the prosecutor, as for harsher laws, lobby your state politicians they do listen. get signatures from people who feel they same way. Ill bet there is already a community in your state trying to deal with harsher criminal laws. Its going to take some foot work from you but dealing with your local politicians office is a great way to start. They can even point the resources out for you. Believe it or not government offices are a wealth of knowledge. Dont be discouraged if you dont get the help or answers your looking for, keep asking, keep pushing. If you dont like the answer ask someone else until you get the answer your looking for. Good Luck

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

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Is Bush mentally ill? Posted: 12/30/2004 6:42:00 PM
Couple things Id like to touch on. From what I read all over the forums seems to be if you dont agree with me your not worthy to live in my world. I for one dont care if you agree with me or not, but dont insult me or bash me because my views are not as yours. That does make you a socialist, look up the meaning. Right now Bush is our president and we can debate the voting over and over doesnt change the fact. If Kerry was our president the tables would be turned and people calling him stupid. Funny it wouldnt be the ones calling bush stupid, because they would have gotten what they wanted, Kerry in office. You can find flaws, corruption, idiotcy in any politician whether its in the US, UK, Finland, and the list can go on. Politics will never be perfect and will never make everyone happy. Is Bush mentally ill? Some say yes because he doesnt do things there way or they cant get what they want. Some say no because he is doing what they want. For me I see him as someone who is not good at publicly speaking but is a hands on person. He is a man of action not of words. No wonder why he doesnt run to the camaras. Heck I hate public speaking and have fumbled over my words doesnt make me a idiot. I have read a few posts who keep refering to military (US or any other) as if they are mindless drones. I can speak for the US those days are long gone. Sure your saying right now, thats what they want you to believe, thats what they trained you to believe. I tell you what you join and get back with me, then you have a leg to stand on. Armys task is not to obey maybe its still that way in other countries but long gone in the US. You would be surprised how many soldiers WANT to be there and believe in what they are doing. Are you even aware that even in the Marines they can not raise a hand to you any more? Are you even aware after you sign up for 4yrs you can get out because you dont like it? Dont underestimate Bush or any president to follow on thier way of thinking because its not what you think. No one here sees what he sees, hears what he hears, we dont have that burden or privilage. Curroption is every where including that employer you work at, the US government is just a bigger target. And for those who make fun of the ones below the Dix line theres just as many of us up here north of it who agree with some of those views and vise versa, so dont go lumping everyone like that. Open discussion and debating is good but dont go bashing someone because they dont agree. Ok now for the flaming let have it................

casperlcaf

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WHAT IS BUSH’S REAL GOAL IN IRAQ? Posted: 12/21/2004 8:58:40 PM
Ok ur really making no sense now Im sorry. The long cut and past you did shows me, we (I) should have been posted on a pipeline guard duty if we are there for the oil. Which all I got to see is the burning pipes. While we (not myself) went after insurgents. Maybe we shoulda guarded the oil lines eh? That woulda helped the oil theory. Let me be clear on this and yet noone will answer it whats your argument again for all the other nonpublicized wars? And from your own provided site heres a link you should read, and maybe we need to war with Russia after you read it since they will be the world oil leader shortly superceding even the Saudi's. http://www.iags.org/n0331044.htm Just dont cut and paste what suites your argument. As for the budgeting, you have yet to try explain away the 8yrs of military budget cuts, but try to defer it to the money asked for now. Im sorry I dont work in the finical department in Bushs admin. I dont get to see all the documents he gets to, when he makes a judgment on who gets what. Im glad you do though. The dependency link you provided only says they dont agree, and really doesn't tell you what the bill he is trying to pass says. Once again they only point out the minus. Can you provide a truly bias link or just the ones that have a one sided view? The only thing I agree with there is Im behind them on NOT drill in wildlife Refuges. And once again there is a push for alternative fuels I suggest looking up some Detroit area web news papers and look up the local news channels for there reports. Heck even CNN has been talking about Fast food used oil being used in cars. Please for the sake of the post, dont cut and paste something that is bias, atleast my links in my previous posts are independent and not US based. If I didnt know better I would say they where democratly based but Ill have to check with my fanatical democrat friend.

casperlcaf

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Who didn't vote and why? Posted: 12/21/2004 8:12:32 PM
Yea but I didnt want to die if I didnt vote to

casperlcaf

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Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/21/2004 7:59:24 PM
LOL Ya I got that link from a friend who tried like heck to get me to vote for Kerry to. he got from his democrat mailing list. One thing you forgot to throw in there though.......How about Bushs business ventures with the Bin laden family that one is a good one to. Ok now for your quotes............. Even in your own post O'Neill couldn't answer why Iraq, although from a third party (Suskind) at the end of your statement. O'Neill himself directly could not confirm that. So once again your opinion as a liberal and that's fine. As for calling me a Moron that's fine to I wont even reply to that one, its always last resort to a losing battle. He obtained one Pentagon document, dated March 5, 2001, and entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield contracts," which includes a map of potential areas for exploration. “It talks about contractors around the world from, you know, 30-40 countries. And which ones have what intentions,” says Suskind. “On oil in Iraq.” Funny how its just worded as countries wouldn't want to be to specific then we cant blame the US. As for the document from the Pentagon cant say which department I sure, since the Pentagon holds the Military branchs including ATF, FBI, CIA, and DEA. And Im sure there are all sorts of interesting documents on just about anything you would like to discourage. And Im sure we have reports on just about every other country that has interests on other countries sitting in the Pentagon, but that doesn't matter since it wouldn't work for your argument now would it? So like I said before back to the Iraq inspectors ( which btw happened during Clinton), that's why Bush had Iraq in his sites from the start. And again I go back to Afghan, Bosnia, and Columbia. Don't want to talk about them either since they don't support your war for oil theory either doesn't it? Your still upset about the country voting Bush in again aren't you? It'll be ok I promise, we will go back to cutting the military and building a false sense of financial security so we can blame the next Republican.

casperlcaf

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WHAT IS BUSH’S REAL GOAL IN IRAQ? Posted: 12/21/2004 7:35:24 PM
1) Maintain a continuing military presence Only this part is correct seems people are afraid of democracy out break in the middle east these days. 2) build a pipeline Please recheck your facts China already is the worlds largest importer of oil that's what fluctuates our dollar over there, research people research. Personal opinions everyone has them doesn't make them right. 3) Maintain control over oil coming out of Iraq and Kuwait. Guess we are in the wrong country for control. Im thinkin we should have taken control of Saudi for control of oil theory. 4) Destroy any and all political movements in Central Asia which challenge US authority OH NO! imagine free societies in the mid-east after centuries of fighting. Peace? OMG NO! The only International support your referring to is German, Russian, China and France. You need to look into what kind of deals they had with Iraq and see what their motive was. But then again if the media doesn't report it, it must not be important. Other than that even 3rd world little countries sent and still send troops there. But since they don't have world power they don't count in the UN? The military isn't falling apart its the bickering over here that pulls it apart. As for the equipment blame the democrats military cuts over 8 yrs. All our equipment predates Bushs term. But then again you wont go for more money for equipment will you? Nope easier to blame Bush. Losses over there the best they have ever been in any war the US has fought in. Please don't try the Vietnam theory it disgraces the good people who actually fought that one. 2) that we're not trying to conserve or wean ourselves off of complete dependency on oil in our US markets. We could be shifting our energy usage to other sources, but Bush has almost completely cut funding for research into how to do that. I really like this one. Living in the Detroit area (ya know where the cars come from) that's big talk even on the media about how Research is being pushed for alternatives, and yes even corn oil is making a come back. As for being the world leader in EU, I dont think we want the responsibility then we would have to have a commonwealth territory over there like France or Britain does. Leave the EU leading to them.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 12 (view)

Who didn't vote and why? Posted: 12/21/2004 7:04:52 PM
i only voted because according to p.diddy, if i didn't, i would die. but i've got a whole lot of friends who didn't vote and they didn't die. what a liar. That was good! I voted, yes for Bush but not because Im a Republican, believe it or not, Im not. In fact they where the ones who called my house every stinkin day trying to get me to vote their way glad its over. That was bordering harassment. But then again maybe my vote was part of the great conspiracy hmmmmmmmmmm.............

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 12 (view)

What the HELL is wrong with parents today?? Posted: 12/21/2004 6:57:23 PM
LOL thanks people for reminding me why I only let my kids do the non popular sports, track volleyball etc. I agree I think adults try to relive thier lives through thier children. And that was a good yank jab too

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 67 (view)

Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/21/2004 6:48:07 PM
Yes I was. "the only reason you don't see this is because you've been trained not to. The army does that to you" 1st Im not in the Army and sorry to say the brain washing days of the military might are over. Thats liberal thinking and a out look on their military. Our military is more liberal than you imagine. Feel free to join the reserves then tell me about brain washing. Those days are long gone my friend. As for the oil debate again you keep believing what you read and watch. This is a free country and you do have the right to your opinions and I do respect that and even welcome them. I am not closed minded and have changed my views on many things in life, can you do that? Please give me a bias link (not a democrat, liberal, or media backed link) that can provide sound facts. I suppose the Columbian war is over oil to(yes still happening)? Maybe the Bosnia war (yes still happening)? Better yet one that you hear more about in the media, the Afghanistan war? Im sorry you feel its over oil and dont mind watching people suffer. My question to you is what would you do if Saddam was our leader here and did a ethnic cleansing? Would you sit by? Would you want the world to sit by? You are aware that even though they are not a major oil export that Iraq is only producing 30 percent of the oil since we got their? If it was oil wouldn't it make since to have stayed out and let them produce at a 100 percent? The bottom line is we got a leader who is old fashion and don't take crap and doesn't care what the world thinks. It goes back to the UN nuclear inspectors getting kicked out. And yes we all know nothing has come of it. Anyone remember before they got kicked out? All the reports from the inspectors on nuclear traces at sites and then oops they got kicked out. That's what rolled the ball. Kuwait was the oil war.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 24 (view)

Frontier Justice.... Posted: 12/21/2004 6:20:44 PM
Frontier Justice? Sure, put the power back into the people hands. As for corrupt police.........Ive had good and bad experiences. Its the price we pay to have laws, which comes with people to enforce them. Im in the reserves in a Military police unit. Im not a cop in the civilian world but I do train with them in my unit. Out of 32 of us there only 4 of us do something else in the civilian world. In general yes they do have the God complex and forget they to are humans and they deal with humans. A gun and badge does NOT make you better than me or me better than you. I have sat there on weekends and listened to their cop job stories, how they beat this guy or took this guy down. Its a terrible attitude. But not all of them are like that. I for one signed on with that unit to change that type of attitude how I act and what I say may have a effect on them in and out of the military. They also feel its us against them becuz there are quite a few out there that really hate them and remember they have big targets pointed on them wearing a uniform. They deal with some very bad people and even me in the reserves as a cop I dont even know if I will come back from a shift. Its a scary thought and theres alot of strange things your called to. doesnt make it right. But if you feel the police in your area are truly bad or corrupt contact your local politicians, get signatures in the area, you can do something to change it. dont go in there hot headed or with a chip on your shoulder. Speak intelligently and calmly and be reasonable and look beyond into the bigger picture. I do watch the show COPS and some of them really need to be removed from the force. knowing what I know now drilling as a cop, there is alot of over excessive abuse and some of them on TV should lose their jobs. My personal dealings as a civilian, Ive lived in the city and out in the country. City cops have worse attitudes but deal with more dangerous issues (not a excuse). Country cops are more friendly and actually will wave to you as they drive by. And as for not much corruption LOL come on you can not possibly believe that? With power big or small there is corruption comes with the territory

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 62 (view)

Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Posted: 12/21/2004 5:53:12 PM
Will there ever be a McDonalds in Iraq? Yep I wont even comment on WW2 since that was covered by another very well. I liked the part about France exporting Jews a fact many dont know. How about how fast they let Germany walk in? As for a fast food on base in Iraq, Im in the reserves and can say yes there is but its Burger king and its not set up in the sense you would think. Freedom always has spilled innocent blood, thats how you got to be able to post on this nice world wide web. Nothing is free. As for those who have posted and think its a oil war, you really need to do your home work and stop believing what the main stream democrat media feeds you. Heres a link to help http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html The only ones who had oil stakes there are the ones who opposed the war. Russia and France had "special deals". Iraq is not a major oil export due to popular belief. I have met a few British over there and I wont speak badly of Britain for the most part they are good guys and do have a helluva commando unit. But reading some of these posts like every country on earth theres bad apples in every country. As for the innocent people, women and children over there for the bleeding hearts, for everyone 1 Iraqi who hates us there is 10 who want us there and are extremely thankful. Although you wont see or hear that in your media becuz like everything in life its a business and you wont watch something good happen. People like hearing and watching misery, talk shows are a good example. And should we be blamed for Russia's crime rate before their break up too? Every time a country has crime and its free it seems it always comes back to Americas fault. You are aware there was a drug problem in Iraq before we got there right? or is that our fault to? It'll be a great day in the mid-east when you can walk into a McDonalds or starbucks heaven forbid people live in freedom. And dont kid urself, we are not just footing the bill for military over there but the rebuilding of what we destroyed. Gotta plez the bleeding hearts, like the new wars where you destroy and the world expects you to rebuild for free. America has done what the rest of the world was afraid to do or couldnt do for centuries. Britain shouldnt be mad at use when we tame the mid-east since they've been trying to do it for centuries BEFORE the world was so in touch through technology. Lets not forget the French foreign legion forts in the mid east either. But since we are accomplishing what they could not we are the bad guys. Hate us for arrogance and our egos, but dont hate us for the good we do through out the world. Crime is a issue in any society Socialism, Communism, or democracy. Just remember Britain as much as you love to hate us, we are born from you.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 31 (view)

What are the truly free sites? Posted: 12/21/2004 3:46:37 PM
okcupid is good if your just looking for online buds, but then again the word cupid must mean friends these days. Ive visited bookofmatchs and OMG what a joke. No offence to people but it seems thats where the mindless wonders of the world gather. Ive read some of those shout outs, its nice to see slower people can live on thier own. Ive read some of those girls profiles to seems they go there so the world can build up thier self esteem. If their that shallow and think thier the worlds god or godness I think mom and dad need to sit them down and let them know the world doesnt revovle around them. That site is really entertaining but not great for normal down to earth people.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 13 (view)

smoking around kids.... Posted: 12/20/2004 7:27:22 PM
Ok at the risk of getting frowned at , sounds like we are all trained these days to be politically correct. Main stream says second hand smoke is bad and have even said its worse than if your the smoker. I do smoke but I dont smoke around my kids, simply becuz they say it stinks not (and yas gonna think Im wrong and thats ok) becuz I have been told it will hurt them. As a smoker I respect anyones wishes whether to smoke around them or not. I actually did a term paper on this last semester whether second hand smoke is more harmful than every day living. What Ive found is food any kind is altered for profit and no solid evidence has show if its good or bad since it hasnt been done long enough. We assume the FDA says its ok so it must be (never mind that big business sways there thoughts). Eggs and milk was bad for us at one time but now there not. How about all the radiation we are bombarded with every day? Cell phones signals, dish signals and all other signals need alot of power to get from here to space and back again what do you think pushs the signals? Cell phones are suppose to cause tumors, yet kids have em. How about that car you drive? No fumes? Better yet how about those semi trucks their evidence is plaster right next to the exhaust pipes. My conclusion was I have alot more to worry about killing me than cigarettes or second hand smoke. I dont smoke around non smokers or kids simply becuz to me its a nasty habit and smells.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 18 (view)

So, am I dead in the water? Posted: 12/20/2004 2:32:02 PM
Interesting ideas hmmmmmmmmmm, I dont think I would ever put child dating mix in the profile. Simply because its hard to express yourself in words as it is. Each person reads a letter differently. Ever read something and get mad then go back once your in a good mode and reread it and it wasnt saying what you thought? Typing words doesnt get the facial expression or tone in words. Keeping kids and dating separate, interesting and sounds like a good experiment I dont know how that would work with out the other person feeling left out and second fiddle to the kids. Timelines I guess each person is different since each persons tolerance for others peoples kids are at different levels. What I do is let them know I have 3 kids living with me. Im not looking for a mother for them they have one. If they have kids I let them know I dont want to be a daddy but I can be a friend. Everyone can always use friends. Thats a good way to talk to your child about when it comes down to dating. They would be a friend. Like the ur ex GF after four yrs leaving. I wouldve figured out a way to explain just like friends come n go. Childrens friends move in and out of schools all the time, this children can relate to. Other than saying daddies GF broke up with him then the child may feel they are to blame for another split up. So even that you have to becareful of. Time line for mixing the dating and children..........well four yrs didnt work. So dont think she was in the right. You sound like you have your act together and Im sure youve told her that you have kids, before they moved in. She should have prepared or discussed (if she was mature enough not just meaning in age either) her role in the childs life. Sounds like she has molded your way of thinking into dating and kids should be separate issues. Bottom line , its not possible. Either they mix or you wait until the kids grow up and move out (one of mine said he aint movein till hes 37 but thats another issue).

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 15 (view)

So, am I dead in the water? Posted: 12/20/2004 11:27:50 AM
"be honest in what your seeking and keep the child/ren out of the picture until both parties are sure of where its headed, no I am not saying hide the fact that you have children but keep them at a safe distance for the time being." This is good osound advice and works. If the children are old enough you may want to open a two way communication with them. Get there feelings and feed back since a relationship impacts more than one life. No you dont have to date moms, but isnt that a double standard if you just over look them? Its a fine line for sure with kids but like everything in life its all trial and error. And nextou, been there with a woman saying she didnt want a ready made family. Haveing older kids doesnt attract women either, maybe if you are still pushing them in strollers. Ive even seen ads where they have kids but dont want any more again double standard. For women though with kids its just as tough, since they dont know if the guy is there for a quicky or will it last. Some guys still think women with kids are easy, so they have to be on guard.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 11 (view)

AGE... KIDS & YOURS Posted: 12/20/2004 11:10:47 AM
LOL 15 and 10 eh dkos, Ive been in that spot and Im 34 with a 12, 14, and 15. My personal experience and opinion is only if you dont want it to last. If your just looking for dates and she is crazy about you fine. But at 38 you should already be mature and have direction in life. Remember 19? Most at that age think they have direction (some actually do) but their outlook and experience in life isnt close to a 34 or 38 yr old. I rem 19 and I thought I knew the world to, being out on my own at 16. Boy did I learn a thing or two. The really creepy thing is your 15yr old in most cases will have more in common with her or him than you will. So in short, date yes, long term no not until like one other person said after 25 its pretty much a number. So if she or hes still around at 25 and still crazy she or he is a keeper.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 4 (view)

So, am I dead in the water? Posted: 12/19/2004 6:45:39 PM
I hear ya and know where your coming from. And its not that we think single dads have it harder than moms no one said that. But I know what he keeps running across just like a woman with kids does. Hi my name is so and so, btw I have a kid(s) and thats the anchor, the last you hear from that person. What most people dont realize, its just as rough for a single dad to find someone as it is with a mom. But remember you are competing on these sites with other guys and Im sure most women here get alot of email so your at a greater disadvantage with kids. My suggestion to you is keep trying here but your best bet is net working. Volunteer as cheesy as it sounds it works. Volunteer for habitat for humanity, church functions if you belong to one, Schools always look for Volunteers, there you can meet other single parents, and just about every community (even my little town of 1700) has singles nights, check your local paper. This site is great but not your only resource. I take my hat off to you and any other parent, I know your pain all to well. Been a yr and a half for me. But there is someone out there for you dont stop trying.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 4 (view)

AGE... KIDS & YOURS Posted: 12/19/2004 6:27:56 PM
You’re a single parent and you meet someone that you would like to share a life with, but they are older/younger than yourself? You meet someone your own age, they have children younger/older than yours? You meet someone who has kids, that have left the house, yours are still in diapers? Im going to assume theres 3 questions here......... The other half being older or younger: the younger one is looking for a mom or dad figure, something that they missed in their childhood. The one that is older wants to be a teacher or the one in charge. But then again it depends on what the age gap your talking about too. Same age with older or younger kids: Thats why ya have to be open and honest up front, shouldnt be a surprise later where your a deer caught in headlights. Whats the age gap? I will use mine as a example I have 3, 12 thru 15. If I met someone with kids say 0-9 wouldnt phase me Im already trained and know what to expect personally. They have kids who left the house and mine still in diapers: Well thats a issue they would have to deal with, not like you should hide the fact you have babies. Besides most people are not looking for the other person to be the parent. Most still have the other parent in the childs life. They are just trying to get one (a life) with kids. What I seem to have found in my situtation when women find out I have 3 its usually the last I hear from them. Funny how some women complain of this problem but it happens to us guys too. I have also seen ads where they have children and dont want some with kids kinda a ironic there.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 7 (view)

Guys using fake pix... Posted: 12/19/2004 5:53:51 PM
Not as common as women usin fake pics.

casperlcaf

Joined: 12/23/2003

Msg: 4 (view)

What are the truly free sites? Posted: 12/10/2004 7:12:29 PM
connectingsingles.com and jumpdates.com Those are like this site TOTALLY free with no hitches. Personally Im tired of filling out profiles and never getting responces. What is needed is a site where ya dont have to waste time like that, for nothing.

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