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 Author Thread: Guys---spare a minute or two and tell me what you think :)
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Guys---spare a minute or two and tell me what you think :)
Posted: 4/18/2013 3:32:05 PM
I'm not sure why anyone would be looking for your heart or indeed romance when you've plainly chosen "isn't seeking a relationship or any kind of commitment. ". It's confusing what you're here for.

There's no need for verbs in interests as most of them are implied. Like what else would you be doing with new restaurants or snes/nes....?
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Many views... few replies
Posted: 4/15/2013 9:44:19 AM
I suggest loose the 2nd and last paragraphs. Those are things best illustrated rather than stated. Stating them is fairly meaningless.

Move the last sentence to the end but rephrase to
"If you're a woman who is independent, focused, and has a clear direction in life, send me a message so we can get better acquainted".

Change "My favorite would have to be" to "My favorite is..."

In first date change " I'd just like" to "I like.." take 'some' out.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Am I coming across to Harsh?
Posted: 4/13/2013 3:51:04 AM
We all know that people who "play games" exist so there's no need to highlight their existence, twice, in your profile or try to dissuade those types of their behaviors.

I think you can do better with interests. At a glance you're nowhere near the "Most Interesting Woman in the World" you claim to be.

You seem to have a tendency to go too far and devalue the good stuff., for instance the first paragraph sounds better as:

I'm a strong independent woman who is seeking someone to enjoy and share life's journey with. I wear my heart on my sleeve, and when I love, I love fiercely. I'm looking for someone who will add to my life. A friend, companion, lover & confidant. Someone to share life's highs and lows.

Those lists at the end are somewhat random. Try to work that information into your paragraphs.

One thing that occurs to me is that I would have never guessed you were a mostly a rock chick until right at the bottom. Although "american rock" isn't a genre we particularly have in the UK. There maybe cultural differences over how rock chicks tend to be more obvious here. But since musical preference is one way that people group together. It may help to highlight that fact sooner. Like you could have headline "Rock chick at heart" or something similar.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Looking for a second opinion
Posted: 4/13/2013 3:04:22 AM
they whine about not being able to find a good man who isnt going to knock them up and leave, but they are totally unwilling to look at the more modest folk ...
by all rights a guy who can cook and clean is a prize, right?


No. There's a reason why (some) women are attracted to jerks. And that is those guys do possess some attractive traits. What those women really want is a guy with some positive traits of jerks and positive traits of guys that can sustain a relationship. Unfortunately the latter isn't what attracts them in the beginning. So all that stuff in your profile about cooking and cleaning is completely irrelevant and meaningless at this stage of proceedings.

Apart from too much factual information and not the best photos, when writing your profile, consider these factors of what women are attracted to: Attitude, mystery, sense of humor, sense of fun, confidence, dominance, creativity, social ability, sense of style, sense of adventure, romance, success, forward thinking, knowing what you like, where you're going in life, intelligence.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Very confused
Posted: 4/13/2013 2:28:00 AM

Try this for an experiment.

Hide all the photos except #1.
change for friends to for dating
Transfer things in aboutme which are interests to interests.
Change about me to this edited form:

==========
I'm just a Kansas City kid who enjoys the simple things in life. Going to school for English. Planning to be an editor or sports writer . I'm in the National Guard and love all that is has done for me.

I like exercising and playing basketball in my free time but also like my lazy days too! When It comes to my lifestyle, I'm a typical 21 year old bachelor but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy an intellectual conversation.

I'd like to meet a Woman who's intelligent, keeps fit and has ambitions. In other words, someone who brings substance and value into my life and someone who recognizes the importance of having someone who brings the same to theirs. If you value this too write me a message so we can get better acquainted.
==========

The purpose of this experiment is to determine whether what you've written is up to scratch or not by limiting photos. One good photo can be enough.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Forum Link
Posted: 4/13/2013 2:14:36 AM
well that's going to limit requests on the profile review forum...
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Review my profile
Posted: 4/12/2013 3:57:20 AM
Don't read the how tos. they wont help you much. However do read these threads about good profiles

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15412043.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15417665.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15452452.aspx

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 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
review my profile and decide beard or no beard?
Posted: 4/12/2013 3:36:56 AM
There's never going to be 1 right answer to the beard question. The only thing you can be sure of is having it makes you look more your age. Whether that's a good thing or not is also a question with no specific answer.

You don't necessarily need more photos, although i'd drop that 2nd one. that's not a good one. Try having the last one first. You're clearer in the photo and have the added benefit of cute fluffy animals!

Take it from one who knows, having long hair confers a peculiar kind of advantage. That being it's instantly recognizable what kind of guy you are from photo/thumbnail alone. With most every other guy it's impossible to tell what stereotype they're in.
For us this ensures we tend to get the profile views from women who are already similar types. With a better writeup you should have no problem getting unsolicited messages.

Women are generally against the idea of a first date in someones home. They, not unreasonably, feel that might not be safe. It's good to sound like you're going to have a first date in order to decide whether you'd want a second one.
Think of something else.

You wrote so little it's harder to say how to improve it. Look at these threads for what's considered good profiles.

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15412043.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15417665.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15452452.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15483751.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15491371.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15051661.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15955469.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15958186.aspx
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 4 (view)
 
What characteristics can you tell about me through my profile and my pictures?
Posted: 4/12/2013 3:05:52 AM
Hmm. Here's what I perceive
Photos: You're attractive, social and have eye for beauty in nature.

Your about me says
You have a clear idea where you're going with work/studies but have no idea about where you want a relationship related future to go
You're probably more intelligent than the average woman
You may not have dated much and may be naive about guys, relationships and what really matters.
You may be that ambitious workaholic yourself.
Your idea of fun is traveling, discovering culture and interesting places.

-----

Nothing wrong with being picky in theory. College degree only may be limiting your choices. Plenty of successful people didn't get degrees. e.g.
http://www.youngentrepreneur.com/blog/100-top-entrepreneurs-who-succeeded-without-a-college-degree/
It ought to be more important what people are doing with their life not how they got there.

Workaholic is not necessarily the same as working hard. Plenty of people are workaholics because they're avoiding personal issues or lack emotional intelligence. 1% of the population have sociopath traits but 4% of CEOs do.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Any Tips Or Changes For The Better?
Posted: 4/12/2013 1:38:56 AM
Fair enough. Doesn't need to be sideways though.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 12 (view)
 
why do do many men not have a profile pic and so many that do not smile?
Posted: 4/12/2013 1:32:49 AM
Whether guys ought to smile or not depends on eye contact. Although the op prefers smiling guys, research shows the most popular type of guy expression is no eye contact not smiling.

(women met per attempt in brackets, average is ~0.59):
No eye contact, not smiling (~0.89) - a natural look
No eye contact, smiling (~0.71) - a natural smile
Eye contact, flirty face (~0.64) - flirting with the viewer
Eye contact, smiling (~0.63)
Eye contact, not smiling (~0.55)
No eye contact, flirty face (~0.35) - flirting with someone else!
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Is it because I sound like a geek but look like a thug? lol
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:31:11 PM
don't say " but am far from a geek" and then talk about computer/IT things. Put student in profession and leave out what you're studying and what job you're planning to get. It's not that relevant.

"I am a very social person" however your pictures suggest the opposite.

fill in the interests field
change for:long term to for:dating

 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Profile Help please. Need Advice.
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:24:28 PM
One pic can cut it, but definitely not that pic.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Any Tips Or Changes For The Better?
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:21:56 PM
Ah you don't need a sideways pic from 2011!
Otherwise seems ok apart from the friends thing mentioned above.
Are you having a problem or just asking?
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 17 (view)
 
profile review please
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:13:54 PM
I think you can do without the last 3 pictures. They don't add anything in particular. Don't need pictures for the sake of pictures. Alternatively drop 1,7,8 and use 6 as the first photo.

Even though you have more than average, it's very easy to read and you have a sufficiently interesting way with words that viewers would be happy to read it all I think.

I only see 2 lines you don't need as your profile communicates this information for you.
these are
I would describe myself as a passionate, funny and energetic guy that lives life to the fullest
My sense of humour can be quite dark and sarastic at times and

I think you can make the end a little better. Referring to "someone" doesn't particularly address the reader.
I suggest something like the following:

"If you're a woman who's independent, intelligent, kind and funny that likes to hang out, chat, make sandcastles, be open to adventure and have the craic then write me a message so we can get better acquainted. "
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 13 (view)
 
proof read, comment, and give me tips to make my profile better
Posted: 4/11/2013 4:38:31 PM
check these threads for examples of good profiles:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15412043.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15417665.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15452452.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15483751.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15491371.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15051661.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15955469.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15958186.aspx
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Review Request
Posted: 4/11/2013 5:56:38 AM
You have honest intentions but you're simply doomed to failure if you don't conform to normal behavior of the site. Be that pictures and how you wrote your profile. You may feel you have good reasons for not having a picture and being as open are you are but the downside is going be long term damage to you from the experiences you have operating like that. There's already evidence of cynicism in your profile. Never mind all the negatives.

The reason why women are dating your so called douch-bag peers is that those guys do have some positive traits. Sufficiently strong attractive traits that outweigh the downsides that become apparent later. At which point it's difficult to disentangle emotional attachment from rational thinking.

Given any system there's always some people who will abuse it for their own emotional fulfillment. Nothing can be done about those people. It's never good to suggest you may have been a victim of them by highlighting their existence.

Interests list is an at a glance indication of the sort of things you like and like to do. Without this information its hard for a woman to have rough idea of how you compare in alikeness stakes. It's impossible to isolate that kind of idea from your aboutme.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Is this offensive or rude?
Posted: 4/11/2013 4:46:49 AM
I'm guessing this isn't working either. Attitude is always good but you have to be super careful with negativity. Too much and it just makes you sound cynical. There's nothing to be gained from site/personal observations unless its wrapped up in humor.

You have no chance unless you do something better with pictures since ~75% of interest is based on pictures alone.
Consider analysis done by okc site.

(women met per attempt in brackets, average is ~0.59):
No eye contact, not smiling (~0.89) - a natural look
No eye contact, smiling (~0.71) - a natural smile
Eye contact, flirty face (~0.64) - flirting with the viewer
Eye contact, smiling (~0.63)
Eye contact, not smiling (~0.55)
No eye contact, flirty face (~0.35) - flirting with someone else!

*What you're doing
With Animal (~0.90)
Showing off muscles (~0.89)
Doing something interesting (~0.82)
Fun with friends (~0.63)
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Different attack, same results
Posted: 4/11/2013 4:37:41 AM
Pictures account for roughly 75% of people's decision making processes. It becomes important what pictures say about you beyond simply looks. Too many self taken pictures starts to imply you do nothing interesting. No eye contact is generally better for guys. A no eye contact smile is a natural smile. Drinking with your buddies implies a certain amount of social skills but may suggest your only idea of fun is drinking with your buddies.

The wrong kind of information is likely to work against you in aboutme. People view profiles with an ideal kinda person in mind. Everything you write on your profile becomes a item to compare to with their ideal. Even how you write it. If you're getting nowhere you can be certain every viewer sees reasons you're not a potential match. Potential is an important word there. In my experience women are more likely to act over hope/intrigue than a solid idea of a good match.

Imho what's important in a profile is setting up your interests to pitch you into certain ballparks, then communicating your attitude, attitudes, sense of fun/humor/adventure and what/who you're looking for. Like your attitudes/passion towards work is far more important than specifically what you're studying.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 7 (view)
 
New profile, wrong crowd?
Posted: 4/10/2013 3:23:15 PM
That somewhat contradicts "looking for a relationship" and there's the option intimate encounter for what you describe.
Well it's up to you. I'm just pointing out that the majority pick dating.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Do I look too sporty or dangerous
Posted: 4/10/2013 4:46:15 AM
I can't imagine "dangerous" would ever be a problem.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Thanks For The Review
Posted: 4/10/2013 4:39:57 AM
Can't see you'd have a problem looks wise. Photo wise interesting beats just a person. There's no reason to have 2 pics of your dog. Although pet pic is generally good I'm not sure messy bed is going to help. #4 doesn't add anything useful. #5 probably needs a caption.

for:dating is a more usual choice. no need to over emphasize that looking for a relationship means long term when there's a choice of dating nothing serious in intent.

I'm not sure suggesting you'd rather read a book than watch a movie is a good idea, when watching movies is something 2 people might do together.

no need to mention "or hang out with". That last paragraph is worded badly. Using the word someone creates distance between you and a reader. It's better to word it in a "if you're a woman who...etc" type way. address the reader.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Profile too outdoorsy?
Posted: 4/10/2013 4:23:53 AM

If by off-angle Randy means your main picture -- aaackk, don't drop it. It's a killer photo.


I agree
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Posted: 4/10/2013 4:18:52 AM
right but before people get to your profile they only see that one picture thumbnail. That's what I meant.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 12 (view)
 
No responses
Posted: 4/9/2013 4:44:05 PM

These sites tend to move us into our superego and we contact or return messages to only those that really match our ideal. .


That's not strictly true. Although too much information causes people to see reasons why another person isn't ideal,
profiles with enough gaps in information have people hoping you match their ideal. Those are the ones that get contacts/replies.


Meeting someone IN PERSON by chance or through a friend adds so much more dimension that Internet dating cannot offer


Online wisdom is to suggest meeting within 4 or 5 messages in order that the majority of getting to know someone is in person.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
I get responses but don't have great conversation
Posted: 4/9/2013 4:27:35 PM
It's more likely your 2nd message kills the conversation. At your age girls enjoy witty funny conversations. If you're being deadly serious in any way they get bored and quickly. You did claim to be " very funny"...

You've got good photos so what you write is less important. Some paragraphs would help.

I'd change the last line to something like.
"So if you're a woman that likes outdoors activities and keeping in shape then write me a message so we can get better acquainted".
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 8 (view)
 
profile review
Posted: 4/9/2013 4:16:54 PM
It's difficult to say whether wildly different profiles to the norm are good or not although creativity is always a positive trait.

Some things could be altered though

"I've been told that I am a really honest person. "
self-proclaimed honesty is totally devalued on here to the point of being meaningless. It best not to mention it at all.

" I may come off as different, or weird, "
don't mention weird. embrace your alternative nature.

"and I should probably tailor my profile into what I think woman want to hear,"
don't say this either. embrace your creativity.

"no tricks here,"
no need to mention this

"So, when you realize you are interested,..message me"
i'd change this to something like "if you're intrigued send me a message so we can get better acquainted".

Ideally you need more attitude in there.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 5 (view)
 
New profile, wrong crowd?
Posted: 4/9/2013 4:04:26 PM
People usually put "for:dating" since dating is a means to get to a relationship. "for:long term" always strikes me as a odd choice in that box as one would assume looking for a relationship means long term when there's another choice of dating nothing serious. Is there really a need to over-emphasize long term?
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Posted: 4/9/2013 3:53:37 PM
Have you checked out the competition? You won't stand out with just a picture of your head.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Why do women say they wanna date then stand up the guy?
Posted: 4/9/2013 3:40:28 AM
Huh, that is really interesting (he says as he strips and runs to the mirror with his cell phone). It must be unconscious because I have literally read it hundreds of times in women's profiles.


I'm sure context has something to do with it. Like if you were standing in a swimming pool, wearing a top would seem odd. The op isn't showing that much as he has an animal in the way. Could be genius.

Whereas there's no plausible reason a topless picture in a mirror would ever exist outside this site.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Rate my profile please.
Posted: 4/9/2013 3:30:59 AM
It is but you still haven't hidden all the other photos...all includes your main too.
Have you looked at the competition? Simple head shots are too common to set you apart.
It's unfortunate that #6 is a bit dark. A similar photo with better lighting would be better.

Generally less *is* more and only some things is right way to go.

You can afford to write at the end
"If you're a rock chick that loves the outdoors then write me a message so we can get better acquainted"

also change that headline. dating is getting to know someone.
and change the caption on that photo. it sounds odd given the composition.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 18 (view)
 
OK, NOT a self pity thread! Feedback welcomed :)
Posted: 4/9/2013 3:21:20 AM
Also, I would not consider myself bisexual, but I am open minded to meeting genuine, sincere people....if she may happent o be a woman...so be it...do I mention this on my page?


It will confuse people if your profile exists for more than 1 purpose.

Generally I'm not a fan of the close up type main profile pic you have. It communicates so little about you and a you won't stand out much in an array of similarly composed photos. I find myself far more likely to click thru thumbnails that show more information such as the women who have commented here showing all of themselves in their thumbnail. None of your photos are good for that.

It's decidedly odd that you're naming the professions of your friends. Are you highlighting the caliber of people you associate with? Maybe that's intimidating guys since there's no other information on what kind of guy you're looking for.

"feel free to ask and find out more about me." is a big cliche.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
No responses
Posted: 4/9/2013 2:57:09 AM
what's wrong with the ones that contact you?
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Rate my profile please.
Posted: 4/9/2013 2:51:24 AM
try this for an experiment. hide all the photos except #6
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Why do women say they wanna date then stand up the guy?
Posted: 4/9/2013 2:35:24 AM
"jyst sometimes nice to get to know her a little before meeting"

whatever you think you might know in that time, you can't be sure of anything till you meet them. Might as well skip it and get that information in face to face time. Words only account for 7% of communication.

When you're practically a stranger and there's no danger of anyone they know finding bad behavior out, some people will take the easy option and do a disappearing act.

contrary to popular belief about shirtless photos,

okc blog analysed the value of photos and found:
(women met per attempt in brackets, average is ~0.59):
Clothing:
No shirt/topless (~0.89)
Normal clothes (~0.595)
All dressed up (~0.57)

Although this probably depends on the nature of the photo, the age of the subject and the nature of the body parts on show. Interestingly "With Animal" rated (~0.90).
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 7 (view)
 
am i going about this wrong?
Posted: 4/9/2013 2:20:35 AM
If its not working you're doing something wrong.
Since you requested a review I see you've changed your profile to copying a template. That'll only work if your messages are consistent with the creativity of the profile.
 skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 32 (view)
 
No replies, even from people who say they will always reply, on their profile
Posted: 4/8/2013 4:32:16 AM
If anything, you're a victim of your own mind.

There's no good reason to write to profiles with no picture. Pictures are the hardest thing to lie about. Profiles tend not to be outright lies only people are terrible at explaining themselves and predicting future behavior and/or wrote their profile before they experienced the site and never thought to go back and change it. You can be reasonably sure that any woman who writes they're looking for a 'nice guy' means something different to what you would think it meant.

You can't assume no picture means a person is pro-personality. Often people don't have pictures because of perceived job implications.

If you're going to say personality matters more than looks you can't be saying you avoid attractive women. That's an illogical statement which reveals there's more going on in your head than you're saying.

If you don't have many pictures, the worst thing you can do is use just any pictures you have. Uninteresting pictures are more detrimental than their absence. You're going to have to go with the 1 picture strategy. ie delete 2 and 3 and just have #1. You'll have to trust me that first picture is a alright picture. The 1 picture strategy is somewhat controversial but it's the only option you have in my mind.

However it does require a pretty good profile. Your problem there is your "issues" are going to leak out in what you say and how you say it.

for instance

" just generally has a good sense of humour"

there's no good reason for "just" or "generally" to be in this sentence. It's like your mind is saying "don't be too definitive in case it puts someone off". Unfortunately being too unspecific causes no one to feel a connection. You can't appeal to everyone.

This is beside the point that *good* sense of humor is wildly subjective. The best you can do is describe yours and viewers will either feel an affinity to it or not.

It's conspicuous by its absence that you haven't properly defined what you're looking for and there's no what called in marketing circles as a "call to action". You handle these in together a statement like

"if you're a girl that likes {insert stuff} then write me a message so that we can get better acquainted." This also means it looks like you made a specific decision to write to a girl that openly embodies the stuff you're openly looking for.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Any Advice?
Posted: 4/8/2013 3:21:14 AM
It's a mistake to let a family member write your profile. Although they may know you from an outside perspective, they clearly have no idea about the dos about and don'ts of profile writing. They're just as likely to shoot you in the foot as yourself.

Although the best looking guys will get more attention, profile reviews show they have as much trouble as anyone else finding the right kind of attention. It's just as demoralizing for them as it is for you.

Luckily for you women as a group can't agree on what makes guys attractive. They all have individual preferences that don't form much consensus. Contrary to what the media would have you believe, women choose guys for long term relationships on reasons other than looks. Everyone has preferences though.

If you can ignore your own idea of looks, then what comes next is how interesting a picture is. You simply sat there is not particularly interesting and won't set you apart from 000s of other guys.

Instead of explaining all the things which are suboptimal in your profile, here's a list of threads involving good profiles to give you some ideas.

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15412043.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15417665.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15452452.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15483751.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15491371.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15051661.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15955469.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15958186.aspx
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 4 (view)
 
I've updated it, what are your views?
Posted: 4/8/2013 3:01:22 AM
A good set of pictures shows you doing stuff and allows us to ascertain how accurate 'a few extra pounds' is.

It seems odd you say you prefer 32+ but have 28+ in mail preferences. There's no need to even talk about age if you're using mail preference.

It's slightly odd how you're referencing the devaluation of the words honest, loyal, funny, but then go on to use them anyway. As if to convince the reader whilst devalued for everyone else they still hold value for you. Some people believe omitting the truth is a form of dishonesty. Like how your pictures fail to reveal all of you.

It's best to stay away from honesty, loyalty and funny altogether. That way there's no danger of contradicting yourself and anyway no one will imagine the opposite of those things if you don't mention them.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Come out wherever you are!
Posted: 4/7/2013 5:58:10 PM
Perhaps there's just a lot of socially inept people in the world and it's easier to spot them in electronic communications paradigms.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 17 (view)
 
What you should/should never say to a girl when approaching her
Posted: 4/7/2013 5:40:51 PM
Your father is wrong. It's not what you say but how you deliver it that matters most.

because

Words only account for 7% of communication. 93% is evenly split between tone of voice and body language.

Which means the "best line in the world" will fail if you're acting nervous. You need to deal with the nervousness issue and then everything else will come right from that.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 9 (view)
 
What would you consider a good opening line?
Posted: 4/7/2013 5:32:48 PM
Challenge or purposely misunderstand something they wrote in their profile with added humor.
Although this tends to go awry if bad punctuation causes how it reads to be different from what they meant.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Do I need to try harder?
Posted: 4/7/2013 5:28:02 PM
"being approached by people you know nothing about!!"
Contrary to common sense more information doesn't makes decisions any easier. If anything less likely to happen at all.

Just because you think you know more about a person from their profile, it's impossible to know what's really important. You can't trust people to know what they want or describe it adequately. Studies show people are inclined to say one thing and do another!.

A girl might reject you for no other reason than she's allergic to dogs, or she hates that music you like or she's just not intrigued enough by your profile. These are perfectly reasonable reasons for rejecting you. The worst thing about no answer rejection is you don't know why. There you have the same gamble as you would approaching a girl in a bar.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Help me out here...
Posted: 4/7/2013 5:01:22 PM
I've noticed this too.

It seems some people go forward full speed ahead right up until the point they change their mind. These people seem to have no concept of figuring stuff out first. Perhaps they just don't think about what they're doing until they wake up one day and think "it's not right". Or they do think about what they're doing but are massively affected by confirmation bias until the disparity between what they're doing and what they want gets too big to ignore. Certainly they don't seem to be aware of the implications of their actions. Emotions tend to inhibit the ability to think rationally. Perhaps they're sucked into an emotional whirlpool of their own making and it takes a while for rational thinking to reassert itself.

In any event I fear there's no way of knowing whether a person is one of these types or not.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 12 (view)
 
why would guy go thru such trouble?
Posted: 4/7/2013 4:42:46 PM
Asking you to call him seems all wrong from the start.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 66 (view)
 
unwritten rules of POF for new members
Posted: 4/7/2013 4:29:44 PM
The potential problem with too much messaging is that it's likely to cause ones brain to start making assumptions about a person. Then when you go and meet the person you're liable to be disappointed they didn't turn out like you imagined.
This is akin to allowing your brain to shoot you in the foot.
The sooner you meet the less time you have to construct inaccurate expectations and you can judge them at face value.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Profile too outdoorsy?
Posted: 4/7/2013 4:10:28 PM
it occurs to me pic 4 might be a more helpful first picture with a closer thumbnail. There's more information in this picture that's aligned with your interests and what you're looking for. It's suboptimal if potentially good profile viewers are clicking thru other women's thumbnails instead of yours.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Perhaps help me downsize my profile?
Posted: 4/7/2013 4:03:09 PM
"You should be emotionally secure and make good decisions."

the trouble with this sentence... apart from the obvious "you should" is are people really going around thinking of themselves as emotionally insecure or bad decision makers? I think not.
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 2 (view)
 
help....
Posted: 4/7/2013 3:56:19 PM
It's a bit random and I know you didn't write some of those lines yourself.

take a look at these threads for ideas on what makes a good profile:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15412043.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15417665.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15452452.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15483751.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15491371.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15051661.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15955469.aspx

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts15958186.aspx
 Skyfireshogun
Joined: 5/6/2010
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Any Profile Help Appreciated
Posted: 4/7/2013 3:51:47 PM
Caption your photos although there's really no need for 3 pictures of your head...
 
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