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Thread: Agnostics... a lonely life.
slimjim1980
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Agnostics... a lonely life.
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1/10/2006 2:23:33 PM
I have to agree with daviemckie. From your original post alone I came to the conclusion that you are an athiest. Maybe your're just a strong agnostic.
"Agnostics....a lonely life." I do believe this goes the same, if not more so, for atheists. Because if you don't believe in a divine being you don't have that feeling of comfort for what's to come after death (real or not). In this way I would consider agnostics and atheists alike lonely when being compared to Christians in general.
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Whatever happened to..........................................
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1/5/2006 4:14:53 PM
I used to believe in love at first site. But it's too far fetched. I'm a hopeless romantic, but love takes time to develop, and it isn't just based on appearance. But I agree the feeling you get when you first meet someone you really like (butterfies) is spectacular. Infactuation maybe? I actually feel the word love is thrown around way too much. It loses it's meaning if it's said too much or too soon.
slimjim1980
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what do you do when your boyfriend dumps you cuz you dont put out enough?
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1/2/2006 9:49:14 PM
he said it was cuz i went out with the gurls! but still thats stupid there!....but then the next day he told me that i wasnt putting out enough for him!...that he wasnt getting the sexual attention he needed!
Any guy who says those two things is NOT worth your heart. Shed the tears and move on, because he's an ass hole and you deserve much better. Nothing's wrong with you. He's the one with the problem. I'd tell him to grow up!
Slimjim1980
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A question for atheists
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12/11/2005 3:21:59 PM
When I shout "God damn it" it's really just a figure of speech. I don't feel it's directed at anyone. I don't believe I've ever told someone to go to hell.
Slimjim1980
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sky high expectations & online dating
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12/8/2005 12:02:33 PM
I know what you mean and it's for two main reasons. The first being no pictures truly reveal what a person looks like. They provide a good idea, but c'mon, the important details are always left to be revealed upon meeting. The second reason is chatting online or even ove the phone just isn't the same as talking face to face. There you have it. As long as you're preparred for those differences you should be good to go. Keep some perfect image in your head and you're probably in for a disapoinment.
slimjim1980
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Mental Illness and Christianity
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12/7/2005 8:39:01 AM
This is an interesting scenario to consider. Assuming being saved or salvation does exist, I would think these mentally ill people would be saved by default, like a child too young to understand would be.
I always like to consider a situation with a child who, for whatever reason, grows up on a small island with no human contact through his/her life. With no knowledge of any God or religion,would this person go to heaven or hell? I think he/she might assume some divine being exists and worship it. Maybe he/she decides to worship a tree or rock...what then? Would God show compassion?
slimjim1980
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Magic Numbers
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12/6/2005 10:18:22 PM
Didn't spend much time with this, but there seem to be the same symbol for all solutions within a ten digit series (10-19, 20-29, ect.). So the odds aren't too bad on it being correct.
slimjim1980
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Reasoning with a Bible Thumper
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11/30/2005 8:24:23 PM
This thread is quite possibly one of the most interesting threads I've read on this forum. You guys (and gals) have very interesting perspectives and I have enjoyed reading the discussions. Thanks for the thread SFL.
About the topic at hand. I got a good laugh out of it! I encountered a "bible thumper" in college weeks before Jan 1, 2000. This guy was convinced the world was going to end, we are all sinners and are going straight to hell. He stood on campus for an afternoon preaching this. He was a loon.
slimjim1980
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Idiots only please....
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11/22/2005 7:56:35 PM
Whe I was 16 I drove a 1989 Ford Taurus (yuck!). One night I had just left work (part time job at a grocery store) and I was walking through the parking lot looking for my car. I spotted what looked like my car and unlocked the door. After I opened the door and the interior lights turned on, it was clear as day this was NOT my car!!!! I turned around and saw My car across the way. Mind you they were the exact same model and color. I guess Ford makes a finite number of keys for 1989 Taurus'!
slimjim1980
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Climate change: Man or Nature?
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11/21/2005 9:10:35 PM
I totally agree with you double cabin, I just don't believe the pollution we are creating is affecting our climate temparature, but cutting down or eliminating pollution sure can't hurt. I somehow don't think that it will stop this warming, but I do believe we are on the verge of an ice age, which will stop the warming!! This, of course, may not happen yet for a few hundred years, but it will happen. You just have to look at the time of the last ice age, which was about 11,000 years ago, and since they seem to occur every 11,500 years, we are due!!!!
You don't "beleive" the pollution we are creating is affecting our climate temperature, but you "believe" we are on the verge of another ice age? And what scientific evidence do you have to back that up with?
Most people don't realize that a large percentage of the scientific community accknowledge the "fact" that the increase in greenhouse gases over the past ~100 years has caused an "enhanced" greenhouse effect known as global warming. So yes, there is a natual greenhouse effect which maintains the Eath's temperaure to be habbitable for life. But the emmission of excessive greenhouse gasses by man has created an enhancement of the greenhouse effect known has global warming. This is a real phenomenon that will only icrease as greenhouse gas emissions increases, slowly increasing the global temperature every year.
Do you even know why those ice ages occurred? At least one had to do with the thermohaline circulation. You might want to do some more research.
slimjim1980
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What makes being Agnostic so appealing
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11/21/2005 8:47:24 PM
Funny how you argue things I didn't even bring up. For instance...at what point did I say you need a "book to tell you right and wrong" And if I wasn't using my brain...how on earth would i see that inaccuracy in your argument.....and its just plain sad that you condem a God who commands you to LOVE others.....of course people like you can't stand the idea that you are not the most powerful being in existence. To believe in God is to remove all pride from oneself. Some people just can't do that.
If morality is completely separate from "religion",....where does it come from? Who decides whats moral and immoral? You? The government? your neighborbood? The media? Who? Where do you find morality?
You didn't actually state that you need a book. But Christians live by the Bible and in essence that's telling you what's right and what's wrong. They try to find answers in the book - and that's what they use to guide them through decisions in their life. So essentially that is absolutely a book telling you what's right and what's wrong.
I am not condeming any God.
of course people like you can't stand the idea that you are not the most powerful being in existence. .
LOL, are you kidding me? Since I don't believe in God you assume that I believe myself to be the most powerful being in existence??? I have no idea what kinds of supernatural beings are in this universe and I certainly don't think I'm significant in the universe. As for your questions about morality, all cultures throughout history have had different views on morality and continue to hold different views throughout the world. I would hope simple common sense and kindness would be all you need, generally speaking. But that steps into another issue altogether.
To believe in God is to remove all pride from oneself. Some people just can't do that
Maybe so, but I think you are extremely arrogant for thinking YOUR God is the one and only God, creator of this vast universe. I guess all other religions are just wrong.
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The most devoted worshippers of all
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11/21/2005 8:17:28 PM
Wonka, it seems like you take alot of pride in yourself in "helping" us lesser mortals think straight. I have to disagree that your answers are always clear. They are wordy. I am not attacking you either, but I think some of your answers use alot of words and don't say a whole lot. I think there are some who would agree with me too.
Now maybe Wonka jumped the gun just a tad after RDToo asked a seemingly simple question, but I do have to back Wonka up on the above. I've read many of his posts in the past. Yes they are very descriptive but also well worded. But the bottom line or his "point" is always clear. For some of the more challenging words, www.dictionary.com is very handy.
Enought of that. I'm a die hard Sooner fan, but for me it's different than just being a "sports fan". While attending OU I played the saxophone in the marching band for all 5 years I attended. Playing in the band was like being a part of the game in a way. The band supports the team and lifts the spirits of the fans when the team is down. The team's success would dictate my mood on gamedays, and also where we would be over Christmas break. I still carry that same pride with me today.
slimjim1980
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God - prove me wrong...
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11/21/2005 1:39:48 PM
@ Canadian Romantic : Come on! I'm having lots of fun on your behalf. I totally agree with the others, that noone can proof anything. You can't proof there is a God. I can't proof there isn't. You have chosen to belief in invisible stuff. I have chosen to have trust in the visible.
I'm just having fun toying with overemotional people - that's all.
Peter - I think you are out of line. For one thing you have not been clear about what it is you are claiming. Reading your posts only confuses people on what it is you are arguing. Now you say you've been toying with overemotional people?? And you do agree that you can't prove there is or is not a God? You could have just stated that in a previous post and avoided the confusion. People disagree on these forums. That's why they are disussion forums.
slimjim1980
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God - prove me wrong...
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11/18/2005 9:37:50 AM
Why don't you go ahead and prove the existance of the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and the Tooth Fairy while you're at it!
slimjim1980
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Is God cursing the US?
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11/8/2005 2:57:34 PM
Personally I think your denial is ludicrous and your name calling of my Lord and God is offensive.
I'm sorry if my name calling was offensive as it was stated. To be more clear I should have said "If God is sending natural disasters to punish American then he is an evil ....".
Do you mean a obvious message like Sending his son to die for you, or parting the red sea, or healing the sick and crippled, or maybe raising the Dead? Something like that maybe/ Or how about A book recording such events so that they can be passed on for generations? Would that suffice?
I don't think you would believe it if it jumped up and bit you.
I was referring to current or recent messages (of which there are none). Clearly, if it could be proven that God was in fact using natural disasters as a message that we are not living life according to his will, then he is evil. I'm not talking about the Bible, mainly because I don't believe a significant portion of what is written in it.
slimjim1980
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Is God cursing the US?
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11/7/2005 2:04:38 PM
NO!
To even think of such an idea is ludicrous. And Dei - if God wanted to make his presense known or tell us we are not living to his will, I would think he is smart enough to send an obvious message, possibly in some form of civil communication. Otherwise he's one evil **stard!
Is God cursing the US? Hell no! BTW, my answering this question puts me in the "hypothetical" situation in which I believe in God, which I do not.
slimjim1980
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What about Aliens, how do they fit in to Religion?
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11/6/2005 10:15:34 AM
I just laugh at agnostics and atheists who make science their god.
Gorilla - First you say life beyond this planet is no possible because the bible does not mention it. Then you criticize those who use logic and reasoning and laugh at them? Yet you seem to believe everything you read in one holly book. Oh, and you think not finding life on the Moon means there's no life beyond this planet? Right now agnostics and etheists are making a lot more sense than you.
slimjim1980
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HOUSTON - GET TOGETHER
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10/30/2005 12:30:18 AM
It was a very fun night, indeed and very nice to meet everyone who showed. I was looking for the "Love" Shack, not realizing the name had been changed to the "Surf" Shack. I almost turned around and went home, but I noticed the place had a patio, so I figured this had to be it.
Turns out I was right. I walked out to the patio and talked with quite a few people. Later we moved inside and even did a little dancing too. Pretty fun night and a small group of us even went down to IHOP aftwerwards.
Can't wait for the next POF party.
slimjim1980
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Wht do you hate God?
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10/28/2005 1:04:41 PM
ksweenpea - When I think about the possible existance of God yes, I tend to dislike him, but as I eluded to in my other post, I am agnostic. I don't mean any offense by this but being brought up to believe in God usually means you were spoon fed, at least from what I've seen and heard. Most Christians I've met were raised to believe in God and never thought for themselves about it. Then when you tell them you don't believe in God they are completely shocked and can't even comprehend that mindset. Not saying all are like that but it seems to be the consensus.
slimjim1980
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How long before we destroy we the earth?
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10/28/2005 12:33:37 PM
Your very first sentence dissproves your theory. How the hell does anyone know what was what 160,000 years ago? No one was here, yet they lay claims to such garbage. This leaves the rest of your post null and void.
dmotz - I'm afraid you spoke too soon. There are scietific methods (geology) which are able to estimate the temperature through soil, rock sediment, and all sorts of things. Nobody needs to be present for a decent estimation, so yes, his points do have merit.
I am not sure from what online publication you got it from, but it ain't happening.
Didn't you find it interesting how it was focused towards North America and the US moreso than anyplace else? As if the US is the leading polluter on the planet. How funny!
jack mack - How funny you make such an assumption yourself. I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but last time I checked the Kyoto treaty is essentially useless unless the U.S. joins in on the treaty. Hmmm, gee wonder why? It makes sense an article on global warming would be focused on the U.S. since it is one of the main producers (if not the biggest) of green house gases and is the currently the most powerful country in the world.
Seriously, for anyone that thinks global warming is non-sense, wake up!
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Wht do you hate God?
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10/27/2005 7:01:29 PM
kweenpea - it sounds to me like you've been spoon fed. The fact that you can't imagine what you've been told may not be the ONLY answer is pretty close minded. If God really did give us a choice he sure chose a poor way to communicate his decision with the world, and in my opinion that makes God a moron or a jack-ass. There's where my "hatred" towards God would be, even though I don't believe in him.
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Wht do you hate God?
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10/26/2005 2:12:30 PM
I think that negative view is actually being directed towards Christians in general and not God, but it sometimes comes across as a negative view of God.
slimjim1980
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HOUSTON - GET TOGETHER
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10/25/2005 6:09:30 PM
Vinc,
go to http://maps.google.com and enter
Tanglewilde Ave & Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX 77063
You should be good to go.
slimjim1980
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HOUSTON - GET TOGETHER
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10/25/2005 5:53:11 PM
Great. I'm excited there is finally another Houston get together. Count me in as I will be there. I'll see if I can't round up a few friends as well. Bring it!
Slimjim1980
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DISASTERS
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10/12/2005 11:24:24 AM
Eagle - What does that have to do with earthquakes? For you comment about the environment, I'm afraid, is a bit of a leap as wonkavision has pointed out. It's one thing to say global warming is enhanced by human industries. It's another ball game to suggest natural disasters are a result of human intervention.
I feel bad for all those over there in Pakistan. Whatever God or Gods they prayed to sure didn't answer...
Slimjim1980
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Are agnostics just afriad of commitment?
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10/11/2005 2:48:48 PM
I know where you're comming from on this so I'll explain why I'm agnostic. I'm certainly not going to join any religion based on a book which has flaws, contradictions, and numerous authers if you will, ect. And there's no way I'm going to take blind faith in any God. I prefer reason and logic, and there's no way I'm going to pick a religion (or God for that matter) and say without a doubt this is the right one. Although it would be nice (and convenient) for anyone to be a Christian, because "apparently" it lifts you as a person, and gives you eternal life in heaven. That's the short version to the religion side.
With consideration to atheism, it is tempting because science should eventually be able to explain everything. But to flat out say there is no devine being at all, which implies nearly all religions are absoluetly wrong, is just as arrogant as saying one religion is correct and all the others are wrong. The fact is there's no way to prove it either way.
I refuse to subject myself to either arrogant statements, so here I am.
Slimjim1980
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An Atheism Thread For the Rest of US
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10/7/2005 9:35:25 PM
I am agnostic. I suppose the one thing I dislike about any religion the most is how the people can't conceive of being wrong - as if they are worshiping the one and only God and all other religions are simply wrong. I can't stand that mentality. On the other hand atheism is rather similar. Atheists declare there is no God. I can't prove or disprove the existance of any God and I'd like to see anyone try. Alas this is where I fall in the middle. Until I find the answer I consider both sides rather arrogant - especially the religous as they seem to live their life to spread the word of God. At least atheists are rational and don't push their atheism on others.
Slimjim1980
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the most important QUESTION I could ask and you can answer
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10/6/2005 6:47:52 PM
I am glad to see Gods word convict your heart this is a religion forum what do expect to read, if I had wrote satan wants our souls what would you have said to that
"Satan wants our Souls". That is a statement open for discussion and debate. In YOUR post you ask others to become born again Christians. Your requesting something, pushing your beliefs on others. THAT'S NOT A STATEMENT!!!!
Use your freakin brain and maybe you'll start thinking for yourself one day too...
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the most important QUESTION I could ask and you can answer
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10/6/2005 6:43:43 PM
I can't believe you are using this forum to push your beliefs upon others. This forum is for discussions. Have you seen the other forums? Did you actually think yours would move anyone????
Slimjim1980
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How about them Longhorns
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10/6/2005 6:35:47 PM
Sundoll - Oklahoma knows they have a decent shot at beating Texas again. The 14 point spread is too much. This is going to be a good game.
Slimjim1980
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College Football STARTS
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10/4/2005 2:26:35 PM
Texas is going to the national championship. They might not win, but they are going. Way too good of a team.
I'd wait until after they play Oklahoma in Dallas before you make such a prediction. Texas is favored, sure, but this is a HUGE rivalry. Oklahoma has improved significantly since the beginning of the season and they always step up for the Red River Shootout. If they are going to lose a game this season it's going to be against Oklahoma. If they win then they will absolutely be at the national championship.
Slimjim1980
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Hello HOUSTON!!!
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10/2/2005 11:38:19 AM
I'm near downtown Houston. Lookin for some people to hit a club or bar. We should organize something for a Saturday night.
Slimjim1980
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knowing God
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10/2/2005 1:01:23 AM
I agree with the rest of what you have said, but this last statement is not entirely true....many need such a crutch, they cannot change without it.
You are right. I should have said these people don't know God, they are just using the whole thing as a crutch for change in their life. Many people do need something to lean on for a change - that being God - and they simply can't do it on their own accord. Then again, AA is something people use to change their life too.
Slimjim1980
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knowing God
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10/1/2005 1:51:13 PM
Here's what REALLY happens. People devote all their mind and attention (life really) to God. They begin to live a different life than before as defined by the Bible ect. Then when some good things happen they attribute them to God. But wait, there's a problem with that assumption. I could stop drinking beer, which would change some things in my life for the good or bad. But whater changes, I'm not going to give that credit to God. That change would be MY doing.
So I think people who claim to know God are just spiritual, and honestly brainwashed if they actually think they know the God in the bible. And when anything good happens in their life they attribute it to God. Of course when something bad happens who knows what kind of excuse these people come up with. These people don't know God, they are just taking action with their life. You can do that without God.
Just my 2 cents....
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Dating exclusively...
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9/29/2005 6:26:25 PM
The first thing that came to mind was the following. The guy (or girl) will get hurt if the other isn't clear about dating other people and the other finds out. This is viewed as being dishonest and cruel, and this is where you will find problems. I have to agree with a lot of you in that you can't really focus on getting to know a person if you're dating 4 other people at the same time! Then again I've never dated 4 girls at once so, technically, I wouldn't know!!!
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Three simple questions
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9/28/2005 5:58:25 PM
I KNOW there is a God, because he prooves himself to me all the time.
How do you KNOW? I'm just curious. Please explain.
I find alot of people believe in things because others tell them to. Why not find proof for yourself, so that you will KNOW, instead of just believing?
Yes I also find many people will believe just because a preacher told them to. But I must ask what proof you have? So far I have not come up with anything which would cause me to KNOW God exists. I'd really like to know what info you have. Although I think I already know what your answer will be.
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Is There a God????
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9/28/2005 5:38:48 PM
Don't know....but you'll find out when you die.
slimjim1980
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Hurricaine Rita,....what next????
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9/26/2005 8:33:41 PM
Well the problem is...we arent told anything til the last friggin minute. Im not originally from the Gulf Coast, so I wasnt aware of the seriousness of the storm- when Katrina came, we were told the day before to evacuate by the college....it wasnt declared a Category 5 until that Sun. night before it made landfall. And, the government was NEVER on the television telling us to evacuate when KAtrina was comin...
But, the fact of the matter is...people dont wanna leave behind everything they have worked for their whole lives, that's why they dont wanna leave.
Where are you located? By Saturday (2 days before landfall) Katrina was forecast to make landfall over Louisiana Monday morning- this was public information. Katrina was a dangerous Cagetory 4 and then strengthened to a Category 5 by early Sunday morning. I'm positive by Saturday night all the national news was focused on Katrina. How you and your college did not know about it is seriously beyond me...
SlimJim1980
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God is a Myth
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9/13/2005 8:15:18 PM
Do you honestly believe that the universe has always been here? Scientists are now saying that the universe is growing( spreading outward) evry day. Now if it's spreading continually then it had to start somewhere.
I believe it is possible that the universe has always been here. That's all I was suggesting. Just accept the POSSIBILITY that the universe is infinite in time. Open your mind and the idea of a creator is not the only possibility...
You are right - if in fact the universe is spreading continually then it is larger now than before. But infinity is a concept we cannot fully grasp and I still think it is certainly possible for the universe to have always been in existance and expanding. It doesn't have to revolve around a creator.
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God is a Myth
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9/12/2005 8:20:44 PM
Logical Proof of God.
1) The universe began.
2) A force started the universe.
3) The force that started the universe held the pattern of the universe within it.
i) everything that exists today exists because of the ordering of the moment before it
ii) therefore, every moment holds the potential of every moment after it
iii) therefore, the first moment held the seed of every moment in the universe
4) Everything in the universe was, therefore, planned before it existed
5) That plan came from God.
This can only be considered logical proof of God if you accept that the Universe had a beginning. If you can simply accept the possibility the the universe is infinite in time (both negative and positive), then this proof is flawed and there is no need for a creator. Thus, this is not logical proof of God.
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Agnostics read!
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9/12/2005 8:11:42 PM
No, Master, you are certainly not alone. I think many of the devout Christians have simply accepted Christ because THEY need him. Maybe their life wasn't going in the right direction, or they didn't have the self esteem to get it going. Whatever the case, they take this "blind" leep of faith and go a little nuts IMO. I think a lot of them just want reasurrance that they'll be going to the "good" place after they die.
Now it seems almost as arrogant to say the religion you believe in is the correct one without any doubt, just as being atheist is arrogant. I don't think there is nearly enough hard evidence to prove either way for any religion - and there will probably never be enough evidence. I'm sure not going to claim there is no devine being because I don't know.
I like the idea of setting a minimum age for accepting a relgion! LOL. But alas there are just too many college girls that get abused by an ***hole boyfriend and come out of the relationship with zero self esteem. Who do they turn to? Jesus....who else, because apparently they aren't strong enough to get their life back in order....
slimjim1980
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Looking into the Eye of Hurricane Ophelia
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9/9/2005 2:48:42 PM
Friday morning: official forecast - Ophelia has started to move - toward warmer waters - she is expected to be a major hurricane within 36 hours... destination, still unknown...
What forecast have you been looking at? Ophelia was never forecast to become a "major" hurricane. A minimal Category 1 hurricane - yes. I'm sorry you live an a hurricane prove area and hope you and your family are safe.
Ophelia has been a very difficult forecast. The steering currents have been VERY weak, owing to it being nearly stationary yesterday. Only over the past 12 hours have the computer models come into agreement on a more difinitive track - albeit still somewhat uncertain. But at this point a landfall over the Southeast U.S. coast is becoming more likely.
slimjim1980
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devil and god
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9/8/2005 5:46:10 PM
You've raised one of many good points of my own for not believing in God. I certainly don't think a so-called "Devil" exists. Evil spirits maybe, but not "the Devil". The only logical explanation I can come up with for all the bad occurrances in the world is just natural, by chance, and odds. That's it. If there were som devine plan then that God sure has a sick sence of humor....
Honestly the whole concept of a devil and hell is rediculous. If there is a God and he/she wanted us to live life a certain way, I'm sure he/she would have made that much more clear given he/she's devine powers.
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Katarina....God's wrath?
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9/5/2005 12:39:57 AM
There will be a time and place for everything, this may just be a natural occurance then. but watch which houses do not get hit by this storm even though they sit in the stroms path. Watch and learn from it.
From your post I'm assuming you mean that the houses owned by persons who had faith in God or even prayed had their houses spared in past natural disasters? That's just being blind.
The same number of people prayed and weren't so lucky - right? This happens every time a tornado strikes a town. Everyone prays, but only "some" of the prayer's are spared. For those who lose their home - where was God? Well, I guess he didn't have compasion for those sorry **stards. Even so, these people will be blind in their faith and say "God spared our lives, it was God's will". What a bunch of crap, their neighbors across the street prayed to the same God and still have a home. This "God" doesn't sound very nice to me. How about this more logical approach: God isn't controlling the weather. If your house is in the path of a tornado it's going to be hit! That's not God's will, that's just the weather!
As for Hurricane Katrina - just another (unforunately) example of how God (if exists) is not a loving God. Thousands of deeply religous people are homeless because of this storm, and I'm sure the vast majority of those people prayed to God. Some lived, some did not, and so on. Whatever. All this is (to me) is yet another reason NOT to beleive in God; but if I were so compelled to believe in God it just gives me more reason to believe he is not loving, not compassionate, and frankly I don't want anything to do with him.
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No Soul?
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8/18/2005 7:05:10 PM
Being an Agnostic priest I have developed my own understanding of souls and spirits and such.
How are you a priest and agnostic? Would you mind explaining how that works?
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Agnostics read!
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8/18/2005 6:07:19 PM
i am just wonder ing what it is that interests agnogstics (including myself) in religion? By its very definition, agnostics do not care if there is a god or not. so why am i so interested in other peoples views on the matter?
I consider myself agnostic, buy for me it's a middle of the road type way of thinking. I don't believe in God, nor do I believe there is no God. Either way I don't know. But it's not that I don't care. I would love to know God exists and there is a heaven, ect. So I find discussions about God and religion very interesting.
To asnwer your question more directly - Agnostics are interested in religion simply because they know they don't have the answers but want to find them.
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which faith should I choose?
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8/13/2005 11:43:39 PM
I don't know. I kind of like the "God fearing atheist" definition. On an emotional level, that feels right. It's like being "not sure" that Zeus exists. It's all just mythology. I think we can safely be sure that Zeus doesn't exist, along with the wrathful mountain monkey god of the Bible.
Logically, we know there is no such creature, but emotionally we still fear it from our culture and upbringing which is engrained in our subconscious.
So being agnostic is being a God fearing atheist.
I think atheists are arrogant. There is simply no way to prove or disprove the existance of ANY god, so to say no god exists is arrogant (plus you're saying every religion in the world is wrong). At times I've wanted to consider myself atheist. But alas I cannot come to that conclusion logically. It's sad if one is drawn to god simply out of fear of hell. Even if god exists the idea of hell is rediculous.
I am stuck with agnosticism and open to all ideas.
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climate change
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8/5/2005 8:36:57 PM
do u think things will get too hot or cold in the next 30 years and people die from it all?
When people refer to global warming they are usually referring to the expected effect of the greenhouse effect. What most people don't realize is there are two kinds: the natural and the human enhanced.
The natural greenhouse effect is what keeps the Earth's temperature habitable. Naturally it will increase, but only very gradually.
A rapid increase in average global temperature is noted after industrialization. Over the last ~100 years, the Earth's average temperature has increased X amount. The increase in temperature will increase until greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, cars, ect. are reduced.
There are many adverse affects to global warming, and many of them tie directly into glaciers melting and sea levels rising. This will first cause water levels to rise on island nations - some of which has been occuring over the past few years. This causes stagnant water, misquitos, insects, and eventually disease. This of course is only a small part and the beginning to the problem.
As you can see, global warming is a very serious issue which has and will continue to cause people to die gradually throughout the world over time.
slimjim1980
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See, this is what the forums are for....
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7/29/2005 1:14:11 PM
I think these forums are great. Very entertaining and yeah, they can be addictive sometimes. There's such a broad range of people that the topics are seemingly endless, and reading through posts is such a great way to find more about others.
I usually get a good laugh, or at least entertained getting on these forums. Way to go POF!
slimjim1980
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Sorry, I just don't find you attractive
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7/29/2005 1:08:23 PM
At least it's a response. Better than Unread Deleted. And no way, don't argue their opinion! Just move on....
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