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Thread: Have all the really older guys given up?
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Have all the really older guys given up?
Posted: 1/18/2013 9:41:36 PM
I think the real problem shirley is that all the older men want women or girls in their thirties and preferably twenties and teens.
Talk about generalizing! To say that ALL older men want women much younger than themselves is ridiculous. I know quite a few couple where the woman is the older of the two, my husband and myself included. He is 7 yrs younger than I am. One of my dearest friends just married her longtime boyfriend and he is also 7 yrs younger than she is. Another couple has the woman being 2 yrs his senior and another recently married couple has the woman being over a decade older than her new husband. I met many men on this site and others before I met my husband. Not one of them was looking for a woman young enough to be their daughter. In fact, all were just fine with meeting someone their age or older. Those women who think men are only looking for a young play thing are refusing to face the fact that there is something else that is deterring men from wanting to be with them. Only they can figure out what the problem is and fix it... if they want to. I doubt that telling men what they do or don't want will help your plight though.
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Dating in our 50's
Posted: 1/18/2013 1:36:13 PM
It's such a shame that there is so much negativity and hostility on these threads. Most people join a dating site with the hopes of meeting someone special. Meeting someone who will enhance their lives. Isn't that something to be optimistic and positive about? Constantly putting down the other sex is destroying any chance of success in finding that special person. Who, in their right minds, would want to meet someone who has smoldering animosity towards their gender?
By the time we reach 50, MOST of us are not looking for a one-night stand or a purely sexual relationship, although there are, like in anything, some exceptions. We are looking for the total package. Sex is wonderful and it's an important part of a healthy, happy, successful relationship but there is so much more involved. I married my best friend, the most kind and wonderful man I've ever known and I find him incredibly sexy and he feels the same way about me. Isn't that what most of us joined this site hoping to find?
Stop the negativity and berating of others. Open your hearts and minds to finding the right person for you. Be positive and welcoming. Get to know someone before you rule them out. With us, it wasn't love at first site. We got to know one another and love grew. What a shame it would have been for us to just walk away from each other since there was no sparks immediately. Give love and a relationship a real chance.
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Dating in our 50's
Posted: 1/9/2013 11:43:38 PM
Perhaps my experiences on this site vary from most women but the men I met and dated were not looking for a 'hookup'. They were interested in getting to seriously know a woman and in having a long term, committed relationship. Not one of the men I dated was only interested in sex. Of course, sex is a big part of a healthy, happy, fulfilling relationship but never was I made to feel it was the priority. It certainly wasn't with my husband since we lived almost 10,000 miles apart and it was 4 1/2 months before we got to meet in person.
The funny thing I've found is that many of my male friends that I've met on here have told me that the women they meet are more into having just a sexual relationship than they are. I've know a few guys who have broken off seeing a woman because all she was interested in was sex and not in developing something more substantial.
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Health issues for those of us over 55
Posted: 10/28/2012 12:37:09 PM
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It doesn't matter what your health concern is,no one knows when some catastropic injury or death will take them, but love is love and finding a person is a task for all of us.
OP, this is such a true statement. In 2007, I was working as an exhibitor at medical conventions spending many long hours standing. On June 30, 2007, before the convention started for the day, I told my manager that something was terribly wrong. I was having chest pains, sweating profusely and felt just awful. The paramedics were called and I was taken to a nearby medical center (Hahnemann University Hospital in Philadelphia) and spent the next six days in the coronary care unit and ended up with a pacemaker due to sick sinus syndrome. I have been unable to work ever since. I certainly didn't expect to become disabled at 56 years old but it happened. I joined this site one month before I became ill because friends kept bugging me to get out socially. It took about 6 months before I was really ready to date and I met a lovely man who became a great friend. He got me out of the house and made me feel that I wasn't a pariah. We both have gone on to meet our love match on here. My husband accepted my physical limitations as part of who I was and he was willing to curtail his activities so we can do things together... things I can manage. He is 7 yrs younger than I am and much more active physically, but we have a wonderful marriage and adore each other.
There are people on this site that won't have a problem meeting someone with health issues. I met a number of gentlemen who were willing to overlooking my limitations without hesitation. I hope you also find the perfect match for you, OP. She's out there. Just stay positive and upbeat. Best wishes
Shelley
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A School Girl Crush at 60?
Posted: 10/28/2012 12:09:37 PM
Native, even though it didn't work out with this man, at least you know those feelings are still possible. Such a shame that he is willing to tolerate living such an empty life when there might be something that can be done to help him. You're a smart woman to realize that you can't 'fix' him and there are other men available, physically and emotionally. Best of luck to you! BTW, I was 20 days shy of 60 when Dave & I started communicating and now, almost 2 yrs later, we are very happily married. Best of luck to you!
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A School Girl Crush at 60?
Posted: 10/13/2012 3:01:01 PM
I'm loving it, nativerock! What a terrific feeling it is to have a 'crush' on someone! Isn't it lovely to be able to still feel that way as we get older? Good luck to you!
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I'm a bit confused
Posted: 9/9/2012 11:29:08 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wlk This Wy & mishou7... you both are newcomers to this site. Don't expect to meet your perfect match immediately. I joined POF in June 2007 and I met my husband on here in Nov. 2010. He had been on here for quite a while also. A mutual friend introduced us thinking that we'd be a good match and she was so right. Both my husband and I are positive, outgoing people who enjoy getting to know others. We both connected with others as possible friends, no expectations of a serious relationship to complicate things. By getting to know someone as a friend instead of a potential partner, you alleviate a lot of the pressure and stress involved with meeting someone new. Our friendship grew into something very special and now we each can honestly say we are married to our best friend. Stay positive and SMILE in your photos. That makes a huge difference. Good luck!
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angry profiles..would you date them?
Posted: 9/9/2012 10:40:39 AM
Nothing turned me off quicker, when I was still looking, than a negative and or pessimistic profile. That's one of the things that attracted me to my husband and vice versa... we both had positive, optimistic profiles and didn't expect to find 'true love' with every person we chatted with. We let our friendship blossom into love and, eventually, marriage. Negativity attracts negativity. If a person expects the worse, that's what they will get.
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Success comes to those who are patient
Posted: 5/16/2012 1:34:19 PM
Dave & I just arrived back in TN and we can't wait to start work on our house. There is a lot to be done but we'll have a great time working on it together.
May you all be blessed with the love and joy we have found!
S&D
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The wedding took place!
Posted: 5/16/2012 1:32:13 PM
Thanks to you all for the good wishes! We just arrived back in Tennessee and can't wait to start working on our house. It needs a lot of work but it will be so much fun working on it together.
Blessings to all of you!
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Success comes to those who are patient
Posted: 5/15/2012 4:31:04 PM
We WERE married on May 12, 2012 and we are thrilled to be together for the rest of our lives. May all of you be blessed with the same love and happiness that we found on this site. Thank you, Markus, for giving us a place where you can have the opportunity to meet someone you never would have met otherwise!
Shelley & Dave
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3 Strikes - out. No more widowers !
Posted: 5/14/2012 5:55:45 PM
Two days ago I was married to a wonderful man who was widowed nine years ago. I was also widowed previously. Both of us were more than ready to move on with our lives and commit to a permanent relationship. Having also been divorced before, I can state from my viewpoint, that either situation can cause problems when dating if you haven't sufficiently recovered from the loss. And every situation is different. There is no set timetable. Many times, you don't know whether or not you are ready to date until you give it a try. That can happen with people who are widowed, divorced or just in a long term relationship. A label doesn't determine whether a person is capable of entering into a new relationship or dating environment.
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The wedding took place!
Posted: 5/14/2012 4:56:08 PM
Dave & I want to thank Markus for developing this site, which enabled us to meet and eventually marry. The wedding took place on Saturday, May 12, 2012 on Daytona Beach, FL. If you are optimistic and positive, you can find your perfect match. Don't expect it to happen overnight. It took me almost 3 1/2 years to meet this incredible man who is now my husband. Don't give up!
Good luck to all of you still looking for your fish!
Shelley & Dave
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Potential dates or are they wasting your time?
Posted: 4/30/2012 10:22:17 AM
My fiance flew from Australia to Florida to meet me so I have to agree with the others... if he's interested, he'll make the time and effort to meet you.
When I first got involved with online dating in 2007, I did a similar thing to a man, but I explained my feelings to him. We were suppose to meet for lunch and I just got a terrible case of the nerves and I called and canceled and told him I just wasn't ready to meet someone yet. We wished each other well and we let it go at that. I made sure I was ready before I ever agreed to another meet.
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Have the forums bit you in the butt?
Posted: 4/30/2012 10:05:57 AM
Nope! If I had an issue with something my partner did, I would discuss it with him and not broadcast it to the WWW. Everything you post is going to remain OUT THERE and, just as I wouldn't want him discussing our private lives with others, I wouldn't be discussing it here for all to see. I have started threads before but they were never about my relationship. They pertained to a feeling or question I had regarding how others felt about something.
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Do men over 50 really want the same?
Posted: 4/30/2012 9:56:37 AM
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Hey Op..so u have had great dates from the website? Why didnt any of those pan out? You've only been on here less than a week. Give us a photo op on your profile with you dressed to the nines. A sundress and flipflops doesnt cut it. Show us what u got, when u go out at night on the town. My suspicion is that you are too casual most if not all the time.
This from a man in shorts, a t-shirt, sandals and a visor???? Really??? Really???
OP, you're a lovely looking woman who seems to have and want an active life. Give it some time. It took me almost 3 1/2 yrs to meet my Prince Charming here. BTW, he's 7 yrs younger than I am. I don't know if Florida is the exception to the rule or what, but the vast majority of men that I met on this site were looking for women close to their age and were interested in a long term, committed relationship. I did get a lot of emails from younger men when I was single and I wasn't interested in that. I want a man with whom I can communicate and share mutual past experiences.
Good luck!
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First Contact ...Men or women?
Posted: 4/29/2012 10:59:52 AM
When I was single, I never had a problem contacting men I thought were attractive or interesting or both. I'm very out-going so I would do the same in TRW. In this day and age, waiting for Prince Charming to knock on your door is a waste of time. If you find someone who attracts your attention, contact him and let him know. Why should men be the only ones who risk rejection? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Most men, I've found, are flattered to have a woman contact them.
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Overseas contacts
Posted: 4/29/2012 8:30:58 AM
A morning quickie, huh? Whoo hoo!
Seriously though, I am marrying an Australian in 13 days. We met on here 1 1/2 yrs ago and he flew here to meet me and I went there to spend time with him. If this lady is coming to the UK at her own expense, then I would think she's serious about meeting you, as a person. If she even hints at you paying her way or some of her expenses, forget about it. My fiance did pay for me to return to Oz with him but that was after we'd spent 3 months here together and we'd decided that we didn't want to be apart. He is moving here in 4 1/2 days.
Prior to meeting this wonderful man, I was communicating with another Australian who seemed to be all talk and lies. He'd say he was coming to the states to meet but then always came up with a reason he couldn't. You have to be careful when chatting with anyone online. You really don't know who they are initially. My fiance knew how the first Aussie lied to me about his age, appearance and coming here. He went out of his way to make sure I could trust him. He offered to webcam (fully clothed!) so I could see he looked just like his photos. He came here to meet me 4 1/2 months after we started communicating. He has done everything he's promised to do and so much more.
NEVER send anyone money!!! If they even hint at it, run!! If they very quickly say they love you and want to make plans to be together, run! If it seems too good to be true, it usually is (mine is one of the few exceptions, I would say. LOL) Just be wary and go with your gut. If some things aren't adding up and you feeling she's being deceptive, believe what you are feeling. Don't try to convince yourself that you're wrong. I did that with the first Aussie even though I knew in my heart that we were never going to meet. The good thing with that was, due to communicating with him, I met a lovely Aussie woman who eventually introduced me to my fiance. So something wonderful did come out of the first online relationship after all.
Good luck!
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Ever run off on a date?
Posted: 4/28/2012 3:05:05 PM
PamiOakley and Sea_Shells, I can understand it in those situations and, if that was the case, I might well do the same thing. Something has to be drastically wrong with the person for that to happen though and in both the above cases, something was definitely WRONG!!
Glad you both got out of there safely.
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unsure what way to turn next ?
Posted: 4/28/2012 2:04:28 PM
This is one of the most disjointed posts I've ever read.
Why, in God's name, would you become involved with a man who is living with someone? There are plenty of men out there that are single and wouldn't make you feel like a 2 bit hooker. He's after sex... plain and simple... and you willingly provide it. You are a FREE piece of @ss and that's it. The only way you can stop feeling like he has complete control is to end this sordid affair. Find someone who wants you for you and not just as a sexual release.
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What would you do if......
Posted: 4/28/2012 1:55:09 PM
I really don't understand the reasoning behind buying your lady sex toys and then questioning the usage of them when you're together. Perhaps he just wanted her to have the toys to play with when they are apart. Kind of odd though. I would suggest, as others have, that she ask him what he was thinking when he purchased them.
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How do you apologise...
Posted: 4/28/2012 1:42:47 PM
If she's blocked you, you can't. Don't make a new profile just to apologize for your mistake. Let it go and be more careful in the future.
OMG! You're 50, married and looking for an intimate encounter! I thought for sure you were in your 20's and became tongue-tied. Insulting women is not a good way to get laid and it appears that's all you're interested in. Maybe that's why you are looking for sex... you have alienated your wife too.
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Ever run off on a date?
Posted: 4/28/2012 1:33:50 PM
No, I have never done such a thing and I can't imagine I ever would. If I found I was uncomfortable with the situation, I would have the decency to tell the person that I just don't want to continue and excuse myself. To just slip off and leave without telling someone is the epitome of rudeness and cowardliness.
i have more than 5x in fact.
it was mostly to do with a bad feeling
or getting a hunch i shouldn't, felt something was up
or i just changed my mind last minute because of nerves
To do it more than 5 times, is completely incomprehensible to me.
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Nude pix of Ex-girlfriends; question for men and women
Posted: 4/28/2012 1:24:18 PM
It would bother me too. I do think that his exes were aware of his proclivities since they probably visited his apartment and saw prior girlfriends' photos on display, just as you did. Sounds like a photo version of notches on his bedpost... "look at all the women I've bedded". Maybe he needs the photos to help boost his self-esteem. No matter, he is out of your life. Next time, if a man doesn't respect you enough to care about your feelings, with regard to other women, don't waste your time on him. Six months is much longer than I'd go without becoming exclusive.
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Separated, but not divorced
Posted: 4/28/2012 12:18:04 PM
I was separated from my last husband for over 2 years before I finally got divorced. We discussed possible reconciliation initially and, when that was no longer a viable option, I just didn't want to go through the hassle of divorce since it had become so acrimonious on his part. When I first came on this site, in June 2007, I was separated and had been for over 2 yrs. The divorce WAS filed by then and I was just waiting for the court appearance and the final decree. There was NO way my ex and I would have gotten back together by that time. It just wasn't even a remote possibility. I felt I was divorced... I certainly was, mentally.
I can see dating while you're separated. By the time I leave a relationship physically, I've already detached from it emotionally, quite a while quite a while beforehand. We can't be sure if that's the case with your lady, Josh. Only she knows the answer to that. I would talk to her though about making your presence known to her husband. To keep you hidden is to pretend you don't exist and that's not fair to you or your relationship.
Good luck!
well i dont understand people who are seperated for more than a few months, cos i seprated in april 1999 and was divorced by sept 1999 so why does it take so long? i wdnt date someone who is taking so long cos maybe they are thinking about getting back together.
The OP lives in Australia and according to their law, a couple must be separated a year before FILING for divorce. Here, is the U.S., each state has it's own laws regarding time frames. Many states require NO waiting periods whatsoever.
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am I too cold hearted?
Posted: 4/28/2012 11:45:07 AM
On the surface, it has all the symptoms of deep depression. I have myself experienced depression that was so deep and vast, that it didn't feel as though I were depressed anymore. Like going down into the Grand Canyon, and finding an area that opened up so much, that you no longer realized you were still in a very deep hole in the ground.
That you felt you should talk about it, suggests that in some way, you really are not entirely sanguine about it. I'd suggest therapy, if I knew you well enough to be able to tell for sure.
Brilliant analogy, Igor! And sound advice. Please consider it, OP. You DO sound extremely depressed, even if you don't realize it.
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Long distance broke my heart, never again.
Posted: 4/27/2012 4:35:42 PM
Johnymac, you need to realize what you got out of this relationship that you never had before... you found love for the first time. That's no small thing. I fell in love with my late husband and from the day he proposed until the day he died was 18 month, to the day. So many people asked me if I was mad or angry at God for him dying and having so little time together. My answer was always the same... "No, I'm just grateful that I got to know what it was to love and be loved like that for as long as it lasted." Do I wish it was longer? Of course, but I wouldn't trade one minute of being together to alleviate all the pain his death brought me. As Garth Brooks' song, 'The Dance', goes... "I could have missed the pain but I'd of had to miss the dance".
As far as LDRs go, they can work but only if at least one of the people is willing to relocate. My fiance is Australian and he fell in love with the U.S. about 6 or 7 years ago, on his first trip here. He knew he would love to move here permanently and, therefore, decided a couple of years ago to get to know American women instead of becoming involved with Australian women. A mutual Australian friend on POF introduced us and we began communicating on Nov. 9, 2010. 4 1/2 months later, he arrived in Florida to meet me and stayed for 3 weeks. We traveled to eastern TN, where he wanted to eventually settle, and I fell in love with the area also. I was more than willing to relocate there. He went back to Oz for 6 weeks and then returned to the States for 2 more months. When he was due to return to Oz, he took me with him for a three month visit. I loved being there and would have willingly moved to Australia if that's where he wanted to live.
This man is the most incredible person I've ever met. Our love for each other is unlike and beyond anything either of us has ever experienced and we both have been in love before and been widowed. We belong together and there is no question in either of our minds that we will both do whatever is necessary for that to happen. He just sold his home and property and will be arriving here next Thursday night with ONE SUITCASE. He has sold everything else to move 10,000 miles from his homeland to be with me.
We are in the process of buying a fixer-upper mobile home on 10.8 acres of land in the Smoky Mountains that will be our first home together (it closes on May 7th). Our wedding is taking place on May 12th on the beach in Daytona Beach, where we first got to know each other in person. We were both willing to relocate and do whatever was necessary to be able to spend the rest of our lives together and we knew that going into the relationship.
That is something you have to know right from the beginning... what are you willing to do to make this relationship work? Will you relocate or is that out of the question? If you can't or won't, look for someone close to home. If you can and will, your options are much more open.
But, no matter what, loving someone like you love her is never something to regret. What would be sad is to have never known that kind of love at all.
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am I too cold hearted?
Posted: 4/27/2012 3:33:56 PM
So why are you even on this site? You have no attraction for, or desire to be with a woman, no sex drive and you don't want to be in any kind of relationship, so why the hell on you on a dating site and posting this thread? Did you just want to let all the women on POF know that you're not emotionally available? Who cares? No one. Get off this site and hole up in your house and just ignore women. We'll be just fine without another misogynist, whining, cry baby bothering us. If more of you would delete their profiles, it would give the kind and loving men who are looking for a stable, long-term relationship a better chance at finding just that. That would be a win-win for everyone.
Or you might want to consider seeing a therapist so that you can deal with all your baggage and get a handle on your life. Negativity is a killer and you are about as negative as one can be.
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Why dont guys like girls who like football?
Posted: 4/27/2012 3:25:14 PM
My fiance is Australian and, although Australia is a sports loving country, he doesn't care to watch or play sports. I, on the other hand, am a football fanatic. Come August, I'm glued to the TV on Sundays and Monday nights. He's had to acclimate to it since, after all these years, I'm not about to change. He's getting more involved in the game as time goes on. He does like a baseball game in person though, so I might try and get him to a live football game also. Some men like women who enjoy sports and others feel it should be strictly 'males only'. Do what you enjoy and don't let a man make you act differently than you would if he wasn't around.
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Separated, but not divorced
Posted: 4/27/2012 3:07:00 PM
Your lady friend doesn't appear to want to detach from her husband, as most separated people do. Generally, you aren't best buddies after you split up. I know I wouldn't have asked any of my exes to give me an opinion on something I'm doing. We don't know why they separated or whether it's a possibility that they will reconcile. I do know that, in many cases, the rebound person, meaning you, is left in the lurch when the married person does eventually move on with their life. I certainly can understand her not introducing you to her children. That's for when you both feel this is going to be long-term, permanent relationship, not a brief interlude. Also, with her mother's illness, she has more to worry about that bring another person into the mix. I wouldn't be too thrilled that she is keeping the news from her husband though. Why? You know about him, and his involvement in her life, so why shouldn't he know about you? How do you know he's been told she's dating people? I think she should inform him she is dating someone exclusively and that it's going well. She doesn't need to tell him your name but she should let him know that you exist. I would feel like a dirty secret if I were you and you don't deserve that kind of treatment.
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Woman stops communicating. I’d seen her online a few times & assume disinterest
Posted: 4/27/2012 2:37:27 PM
I wouldn't be terribly put off by it. You haven't even met yet and perhaps she did meet someone she thought might be a good fit and then turned out not to be. Until you've been dating and have agreed that this is a monogamous relationship, people will come and go and some will return. If you enjoyed getting to know her, found her attractive and think you might be a match, then give it a go. If not, move on to the next lady. I think it's all about your ego being hurt than anything else and that ego might cost you meeting someone who maybe perfect for you.
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Do pets make a difference when considering a profile
Posted: 4/22/2012 3:55:44 PM
I have three cats, the youngest being 7 yrs. old and the oldest being almost 14. I've had all of them since they were kittens and I'm not about to get rid of them. They come with me as a package deal and if a man couldn't deal with it, then that's his decision. My fiance is not an avid cat fancier but he understands how much my cats mean to me and is willing to accept them as part of 'the family'. He raises parrots and I'm not a huge bird person but I've gotten to where I enjoy them more because of his interest in them. When we set up our home in the Smokey Mountains, we are planning on having a few different animals... pigmy goats, chickens, my cats and he wants to start raising parrots again here. Fortunately, we are on the same page with what we want in life. A person who doesn't want any pets would not be a match for me, nor I for them.
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Is love necessary in marriage?
Posted: 4/22/2012 1:31:18 PM
Thank you, RR! We are so very happy that a mutual friend introduced us, knowing how right we'd be together. I've been in love before, and so has Dave (he lost his wife to breast cancer when she was only 39), but this relationship is something that is so strong that everyone who meets us comments on how we are meant to be together. They say it's a feeling they get just being around us... we just radiate love for each other. We know how it feels to lose someone you love and to find a love like this at our ages is incredibly rare and something we cherish.
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Is love necessary in marriage?
Posted: 4/22/2012 9:15:44 AM
Welsh, how do you define this love?
A lot of it is chemistry, I think - where one absolutely needs to be with the person because they make one sizzle. The rest of it is the fact that one communicates easily (i.e. similar in goals and values), and as a consequence, one might decide that one would want to be loyal and committed to that person. But those are actions based on what one feels.
Love is a feeling - I think.
What are the components of love that make it different from friendship with chemistry?
This, for me, is one of the most perfect and accurate definitions of love, or a least the love that Dave and I have for each other..."the perfect Union of two souls". Now for you, as an atheist, this may not be your definition. Dave's way of saying it is that "we were twins in a prior life", meaning that we are so much alike and so close and care so deeply about one another that we must have been one in a prior life. It's like he's the other half of me and vice versa. It's the most incredible, overwhelming, intense feeling you can imagine. Quite similar to the overwhelming love of a child but with passion added in. To where you would give up your life and everything else for this person without a second thought. That's pretty much what he is doing for me. He has sold his house and property, all his belonging, and is coming here in a week and a half with 2 suitcases of clothes to start a new life together with me. To give up everything you own and know to be with someone you love so much says a lot. And I would do the same for him. That is love.
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Help for the disabled?
Posted: 4/22/2012 8:55:17 AM
You don't say whether your MS is relapsing remitting, secondary progressive, primary progressive, or progressive relapsing. That would/could be a factor in whether a person would want to get involved with you. I have a very good friend who, at age 25, was diagnosed with what they initially thought was primary progressive since she quickly became quite incapacitated. Suddenly, she went into almost total remission and was re-diagnosed as having relapsing remitting MS. She had been married about 2 months when she was diagnosed initially. That was 1982. She is still with us, although the MS has progressed quite a bit in the last 10 yrs. Prior to that, she did quite well. She still does as much as she can and lives a full life.
I fell in love and married a lovely man who had a very severe cardiac condition. I met him when he was a patient in the hospital where I worked as a respiratory therapist. I got called to give him a breathing treatment at 3am while he was in the Coronary Care Unit. Neither of us was looking for romance, just friendship, but it developed into something we couldn't deny. From the day he proposed until the day he died was only 18 months exactly but they were wonderful months for us both and I've never regretted marrying him. He showed me what it was like to be truly loved, and I did the same for him, as well as making his last year and a half the best of his life (according to him).
I'm a big proponent of full disclosure on issues like this. I have a physical condition that limits me a great deal and, when I was dating, I had it on my profile in case some men considered it a deal breaker. I'm sure for many men it was but for my fiance, it wasn't. For him, it was a slight inconvenience that we work around. For the right woman, that's what your MS might be... a inconvenience that you both can work around. Not every woman will be willing to take on that challenge but there are some who will. If you don't state it on your profile, I would suggest disclosing immediately so the woman can make an informed decision as to whether dating a man with MS is something she can deal with or not.
I wish you the very best. Good luck!
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Is love necessary in marriage?
Posted: 4/22/2012 6:47:17 AM
Why would you want to marry someone if you didn't love them? Why not just be friends? The point of marriage, to me, comes from a desire to spend the rest of your life with the person you love, respect, honor and cherish more than any other and, if you are young, to procreate and raise family. But since we are in the 'Over 45' forum, having kids isn't really much of an issue for most of us.
I'm getting married in less than three weeks and the reason we are marrying is because we love each other so much and want to spend the rest of our lives together as husband and wife. That's important to us, even at our ages. Many people over 45 no longer want to marry and that's their choice. We all should do what we feel is right for us, not what others think we should do.
I can't imagine marrying someone that I didn't love. Your idea of what makes for a good marriage makes it seem like 'why bother'. You don't need to get married to be friends, respect each other, have a little chemistry, common values and goals and financial stability. You can have all that in a friendship without the legal entanglements of marriage. And evolution didn't 'design' marriage. Social mores did. Marriage is not, and never has been, an evolutionary process.
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Nothing like finding your boyfriend on POF. twice happened....
Posted: 4/20/2012 1:16:00 AM
RE: Msg 15 from MrKnowsItAll
It's amazing that these dimwitted women still think they can find a prince charming on a site like pof. Sorry, but you get what you pay for.
I find it amazing that men like MrKnowsItAll even bother having a profile on this site when they are so jaded and positive that they won't meet someone worthwhile. You may want to change your user name to MrDoesn'tKnowItAll since I know quite a few very happy couple who have met on here who are either monogamously dating, living together or married and are very happy in their relationship, myself included. My fiance, who I met on this site, and I are getting married on May 12th and our relationship of 1 1/2 years has been incredible. He is a fantastic person and the most sincere, honest, loving, funny, wonderful man I've ever known. So it can and does happen.
RE: Msg 19 from maleman999
Those guys are almost as bad as a woman who has trust issues and feels a need to snoop. Since you didn't mention you and any of these guys had the exclusive talk, being on POF was their right to do so. If you did NOT see them on POF, would you have told them you were snooping, trying to catch them on a dating site, and they came out with a clean record? If there's no trust in a relationship, there is no relationship. If I was dating someone and she felt a need to investigate me and I found out, she would be history. What's the point of dating someone who doesn't trust you?
Seems as if the OP's 'trust issues' were well founded, wouldn't you say? They were looking for other women. Most of us adults would presume the relationship to be exclusive if we are discussing spending our future together without the need of a formal discussion. And obviously, you think that the faithful partner should just trust their S/O, even if past behavior suggests they maybe cheating, because to check on a public site would be unethical and show a lack of trust. The problem with your conclusion is that they DID have profiles on a dating site when involved in a long-term, supposedly monogamous relationship. They were not wrongly accused. They weren't even confronted when the OP found out. How would you suggest a person handles it if they think, rightly or wrongly, that their partner maybe on dating sites? Ask them? If they are cheating on you behind your back, do you REALLY think they'd give you an honest answer?
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HOT FLASHES
Posted: 4/12/2012 9:53:50 AM
A friend of mine calls them 'our own private summers!' Ain't that too cute?
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Is it still lying when a person reveals the truth about themselves *before* a planned meet & greet?
Posted: 4/11/2012 9:52:10 AM
Yes I did say that, but ended up leaving those dishonest meet & greets with a sour taste in my mouth and quickly lost interest.
The man I wrote this post about who is tall and handsome wrote me in response to my asking him why he lied and said "I am not lying - it is the way I present myself". I told him, "it is lying and good luck with that" and blocked him. Yes...he was handsome but like many have said on here there could be more he is hiding and I would prefer not be be somebody's doormat.
G'donya, fall-blossom! You deserve better than that!
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Is it still lying when a person reveals the truth about themselves *before* a planned meet & greet?
Posted: 4/11/2012 9:25:54 AM
I could never understand why a person would lie on their profile since eventually they will be found out. You state that you want to date men under 51. This person is 53 and said he was 45, if I read one of your other posts correctly. That's a big difference and saying you don't have children when you do is even worse. Obviously, they are not over 18 or it wouldn't be an issue. So, instead of a 45 y/o man with no children, you've found a 53 y/o with at least one younger child. Hmmmm.
If a person is going to lie about those things, what else will they lie about? I met a man on here who lied about his age and I made excuses to myself for it... he didn't want to be excluded from possible searches because of his age, he still looked like he could be 52 (he was, in fact, 62), he was a vital, enthusiastic, young at heart person. Yeah, well... he also had up a photo that was quite old and he looked nothing like his photo. Not that I ever found out myself. A friend met him to see what he looked like since he always came up with excuses not to send me a current photo. He was older, shorter, much heavier and grayer than he had portrayed himself to be. There were quite a few things he lied about I found out. So now, I'm much more cautious about what I consider 'white lies'. If you cannot be honest about who you are, then how can I trust anything else you might say?
Too overlook dishonesty in someone because they are handsome is something you may regret. Perhaps that man is use to lying and getting away with it because of his looks. No telling what else he maybe hiding. I would rather meet a man with integrity and sincerity than someone with questionable scruples. Looks don't make up for intentionally lying to you. And if he's that hot, wouldn't you have said you'd meet him anyway, no matter his age or whether he had a child?
Bottom line is it's your call. Let us know what you decide.
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HOT FLASHES
Posted: 4/11/2012 8:41:40 AM
I've had them since I was in my early 40's and had a total hysterectomy at 46. I still get them occasionally. Usually they go away in a few minutes. When I would get bad flashes, I kept the neck wraps that you freeze always on hand and that helped tremendously. A cold wet cloth on the back of your neck or running the inside of your wrists under cold water also helps. When they were at there worst, I even had a Chillow... a pillow that keeps you cool all night long. It worked really well. Here's the link for it... http://chillowstore.com/. Hope this helps! Also, I find, since I have VERY thick long hair that keeping my hair up off my neck helps too. And I carry a hand-held fan in my purse just in case a flash hits while I'm out and about. You can find them at flea markets for a dollar or two. I bought a couple so I'd have a spare. And they look very feminine compared to fanning yourself with your hand or a paper!
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Materialistic People
Posted: 4/11/2012 8:32:59 AM
Jaimes, for her to just blow off your call and text is just rude. It takes 2 minutes, if you're a slow texter, to respond. And a quick phone call after work wouldn't have been a big deal IF she wanted to contact you. I think you are absolutely correct. She saw your work car and was disappointed that it wasn't some fancy, expensive vehicle and decided that, even though you were a great guy and you both enjoyed yourselves, she wasn't interested in someone whom she thought wasn't financially well off enough. Her attitude when she saw your truck just verifies it. Suddenly, she's friendly, approaches you and makes excuses as to why she hasn't been in touch. I will bet that if you were in your work car, she would have pretended not to see you. If she had enough time to text you after she saw your truck, she had enough time to respond when she thought you only had a beater. And my fiance drives an old station wagon in Australian since he lives on a farm but he is financially able to buy whatever vehicle he wanted, if he chose. He prefers buying used vehicles and not losing thousands of dollars when you drive off the lot in a new one. That just makes fiscal sense to him. So you cannot tell how well off someone is by what they drive necessarily and, if it's so important to a woman what you drive, do you really want to be with her? Wouldn't you prefer someone who likes you for who you are and not your possessions?
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I hope all men don't believe this!
Posted: 4/11/2012 8:15:31 AM
While both of us can appreciate a good looking person of the opposite sex, neither of us mentions it. He never says, "Wow, look at the set on that woman!" and I don't say "Ohhh, is he ever hot!". I really think that most of the time we don't bother noticing other people because we are so focused on each other. To me, he is the sexiest man around and he would find saying something about another woman in front of me as being disrespectful to me... that's just the way he is. And I like him that way.
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Success comes to those who are patient
Posted: 4/9/2012 9:00:09 PM
Everything is falling into place. Dave's house is in escrow (although in Australia, they don't call it that). The bank approved the financing today and it closes on Apr. 26th. He is planning on flying out of Melbourne on May 2nd and arriving here on May 2nd (thanks to the International Date Line). Our wedding is planned for May 12th on the beach at Daytona Beach where we first got to know one another. A dear friend will conduct the ceremony, my son will be Best Man and his fiancee will be my maid-of-honor. We are just so happy and excited to start our life together and never to have to be apart again.
Thank you so much for asking and I will post some photos of the wedding afterwards. Best of luck to you and may you find what you are looking for.
Best wishes,
Shelley & Dave
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Agreed to date now dont fancy them :/
Posted: 4/5/2012 10:38:31 AM
The OP is speaking perfectly proper English. To expect people from other countries to speak American English is absurd. She is not interested in meeting this man anymore and that is her prerogative. All she wanted to know was a nice, gentle way of letting him down without hurting his feelings too badly. Personally, I think Halcyon Skies suggestion was excellent... a brief message that is to the point and kind:
"I think you're a wonderful guy, and some woman will be very lucky to have you---unfortunately, I'm not that woman. After our webcam chat, I just didn't feel that elusive, indefinable, completely unpredictable "it factor" I need to pursue a relationship with you. I wish you all the best in your search."
You can change 'wonderful guy' to 'lovely man' if you'd like... no matter what others might think! I think it sounds fine!
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Just saw my first love on facebook and...........
Posted: 4/4/2012 12:14:02 PM
I saw my third husband's profile on My Space a few years ago and just seeing him brought back all the cruelty and viciousness of which he was capable of perpetrating on others. He still had that mean stare that I remember so well. Amazing how he hid it for the year we were just platonic roommates and then let it out after the marriage. I've never known someone so cruel. I doubt he has changed.
My 2nd husband is on FB but without any photos so I can't see how he's turned out after all these years. I did see a photo of my 1st husband on my son's half brother's FB page. He did not age well at all and, unfortunately, he passed away at age 52 of a sudden, massive heart attack.
I've seen photos of my fiance when he was younger and I find him to be much more handsome and sexy now than he was then. Some men just get hotter as they age and he is one of them. At least he is to me!!!
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why so many financial concerns?
Posted: 4/4/2012 11:45:22 AM
A woman/man that gets out of bed, goes to work, pays his bills and maintains her/his own home is a more desirable partner that someone that is living in his parent's house, disabled and unemployment.
I'm certainly glad that my fiance didn't find me less desirable because I'm on disability due to medical conditions that prevent me from continuing to work. I worked as a respiratory therapist for 30 yrs and then as an exhibitor at medical conventions until I was literally taken out of a convention in Philadelphia by paramedics and ended up in the the Coronary Care Unit of a major hospital. Since that time, after implanting a pacemaker, doctors have run numerous tests trying to figure out what was causing my problems. It took over 2 yrs for them to do so. Finally, I was approved for SSI after having lost my house to foreclosure. Believe me, I didn't think that, at 56, I would no longer be able to support myself and lose everything I'd worked so hard for. It can happen to anyone and a person shouldn't be berated or looked down upon because of circumstances beyond their control. People are losing their jobs... jobs they've had for decades and they are also losing their homes due to loss of income. The comment that we are 'less desirable' due to having gone through these difficult times is presumptuous and arrogant. It can happen just as easily to you. Then you would also be one of the undesirables.
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Agreed to date now dont fancy them :/
Posted: 4/3/2012 1:47:57 PM
Sue, after reading your post msg 13, I see what you are saying. Yes, and I can definitely agree with that. If you were that turned off by him on the webcam, there is NO point in meeting in person. I was under the impression that you might feel differently in person. If his voice, mannerisms, smile & laugh all put you off then it's a done deal. I'd email him and tell him that you don't feel the same connection after webcamming and that you wish him good luck in finding the right woman.
I've had that happen to me also and it's such a let down. On man who seemed to be wonderful during our emails and chats had the highest pitched voice on the phone that it just turned me off completely!! He sounded like Minnie Mouse and there was no way I could deal with that. Might be shallow, but that's really how I felt!
Good luck to you. He maybe perfect for the next woman he meets.
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Was this a faux pas?
Posted: 4/3/2012 12:08:17 PM
I would have waited in the waiting area also and no longer than 15-20 minutes after the designated meeting time. If he was running late, he could easily call or text to inform me, as I would do to him, should I be the one running late.
I also would have left the table and gone up to the man in the waiting area and asked if he was 'so-and-so'. He may not have been able to spot you and didn't think the hostess would know. I know I have had a hell of a time finding girl friends seated in restaurants and I've known them for years!!
What I do find terribly rude of him is not responding to your text. That is very telling. Scratch this man off your list and move on.
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Need help interpreting this date, please
Posted: 4/3/2012 11:46:18 AM
Occam, you would have been nothing more than another notch in her headboard. She is into scoring as many guys as possible. That's how she boosts her ego and her false sense of self-esteem. You are a rarity and I commend you for your actions in not bedding her. If you are looking for someone who is worth being with in a relationship, this woman certainly isn't it. And I think your gut told you so and that's why you didn't pursue her sexual advances. That's nothing to be ashamed of, btw.
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