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 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 139 (view)
 
CAUCASIANS ONLINE
Posted: 12/3/2007 9:57:33 PM

Hey man, good to see you again.

Thanks! And likewise!

'Jungle fever', I believe the term is... and TBH I don't know enough black women to comment.....Listening to their comments on POF, though, I get the impression that they think white men fetishize them like there's no tomorrow

You may very well be right about this. I think in lew of the term 'jungle fever' though, it's a bit tougher to identify this term in relation to White men desiring Black women because the term is often used in regards to White women desiring Black men as well. So how often it's used in reference to White men desiring Black women, I couldn't say. However, the term 'yellow fever' is 'almost' exclusively used in relation to White men desiring Asian women.

I can tell you without a doubt that, given the choice between you and a black man, I'd pick you.

You won't get any argument from me there!
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 135 (view)
 
CAUCASIANS ONLINE
Posted: 12/3/2007 4:38:23 PM
As a result of this, we are occasionally required to excercise caution on who we approach in terms of dating, because quite often, a white male approaching a woman of color with romance on his mind is immediately assumed to merely be after sex, or to have a fetish for women of that particular race. (See 'yellow fever', et al.)

I agree with you in part wonkabar, in that stereotype is at play. However, I don't think one can really relate the situation with Asian women (yellow fever) as equivalent to Black women. For one thing, I don't think there's any conclusive evidence as to where the term "yellow fever" originated (whether by Whites or Asians). It's quite evident that a good proportion of White males refer to 'themselves' as having "yellow fever" as if it were some sort of healthy 'guilty pleasure'. So, this particular stereotype is often perpetuated by White males. On the other hand, I would say that it's far less likely for a Black woman being approached by a White male to assume he has a fetish. Our society just doesn't feed that particular notion or stereotype 'into us'.

I do think however that there's a stereotype of Black women being 'ethnocentric' in terms of their male preference. I would say this has something to do with demographics. This is because of the fact that Black Americans as well as Hispanic Americans have a far more profound demography (Black neighborhoods, Hispanic neighborhoods) than Asians do who have assimilated more into White neighborhoods. Thus, Black, and Hispanic Americans are targeted demographically by the media in much the same way as age groups are targeted. The media realizes that there is profit to be made by promoting Black male actors to reach a Black female audience. You don't see this done with Asian males. Even though they have full 'minority status'; Asians are considered in the same demography as White Americans. So, whatever White male sex symbol they want to promote, will theoretically be embraced by Asian females. And in similar fashion, the Asian male theoretically is supposed to idolize the White iconic figure, and only perceive that by sheer coincidence he (always) happens to be White.
So, because our media 'does' provide a 'positive' image of a Black male; it's often assumed when seeing a pretty Black woman that she would be more interested in 'given positive media image' of a Black male.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1946 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 9/3/2007 7:17:42 PM

Ever seen an Asian man's unit? Asian women want more,

Would you care to explain this then?

BTW, of course the media has been reinforcing this stereotype. This has gone on for years. It's nothing to celebrate, be proud of, or accept as a boost in your favor.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1941 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 9/3/2007 12:47:11 AM

As to where I get my information, I am a social guy, and talk to a lot of guy and women about sex and relationships.

(aka trash talking men and women in bars.)
Truthfully, this is probably why you're so misinformed.

You also made references that Asian women reject Asian men for the 'small unit' as you put it. How could this be when all ethnicities, INCLUDING ASIAN ethnicities are in relative equal proportion? Or have you and your trash talking buddies discovered an untapped biological phenomenon? If so, what are you waisting your time here for? You need to write a book!

In reality what you're doing is taking a stereotype that got whispered in your eardrum while getting a lapdance; liking the sound of it, and spouting it off as some kind of scientific fact.

What I get from areasontosmile's comment about the showers is that he's secure in his manhood to where the size of another man's unit is of no concern to him. How about you? Do you carry around a tape measure to public showering facilities? Or do you just go by idle chatter from people who have had too much to drink?

You deserve any slam you receive in this thread!
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1882 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/22/2007 8:45:51 AM
You have to take the bad with the good. The racial gender that will receive the highest amount of praise will usually receive a proportionate amount of critique. Actually, on this thread, the ratio rates incredibly high for the praises of Asian women.

Basically, for some, this thread has been utilized as a promotional gimmick. I don't buy into the racial morality that some claim to have. Some of the Asian women who get upset over critique, at the same time will have absolutely no problem if someone were to slam, say, Black women on this thread. I can't imagine Steve even noticing a different racial gender being slammed, because every single post he makes is about his Filipina. So the only post he will notice is if it contains the word "Filipina".

So when a critique comes along, the 20-1% ratio of praises vs. critique in favor of praises will mean nothing for the Asian woman who sees this thread as a means of self-advertisement.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1809 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/13/2007 3:09:42 PM
Msg 1832: For one, I think that's a minority. You also need to take into consideration that some will say what they think people want to hear. I used to work with a short White man who was married to a Chinese woman, possibly taller than him (based on a photo he showed me, but they may not of been on level ground). He fancied himself as being somewhat of an Asian lady killer. The Korean escorts he would visit on the side probably told him whatever horse sh*t they knew would feed his ego.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1801 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/13/2007 2:20:52 PM
Sometimes I wonder where some of you live! Yes, I certainly see overweight White women. I see overweight men and women of all races. But....I can hop in my truck right now, head over to a number of sub-urban downtown areas, and see a number of gorgeous slim White (and Hispanic and Black) women.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1793 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/13/2007 1:26:42 PM
While I understand there are great AF/WM relationships out there based on love, and not skin color

I think that unfortunately some of these relationships are exploited. An obvious high profile example would be John and Yoko. There's no evidence to suggest that Lennon had an Asian fetish, or married Ono because she was Japanese. Yet a number of people falsely use him as a symbolic icon, who wave the Asian preference banner in the face of White women. They claim that because he could've had a number of women of his choice, and he chose a Japanese woman, this makes a case about the the status of Asian women over White women. This insane notion is expressed in the face of thousands of famous celebrities who did 'not' marry Asian women.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1780 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/31/2007 8:31:37 PM

Hey my photo is posted

Ahhh! So it is!


where is yours spode boy?

No worry...no worry at all. My photo is proudly displayed at every post office in the country!
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1778 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/31/2007 3:19:41 PM

Feminism, on the other hand, teaches women that men are "the enemy" and are not to be catered to

You no doubt have that. However, if you remove the negatives, it's initial intent is positive. One of the positives in regards to Asian, and minority feminists, is that they tend to be ethnically conscious as opposed to just gender conscious. An Asian female feminist in general will be more apt to fight against ethnic problems for both males as well as females of their race/ethnicity. Generally more so than the Asian women who concedes to being a token newscaster for the sole purpose of self prosperity. I'm sure there's exceptions no doubt, but this seems to be the general trend.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1777 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/31/2007 3:09:51 PM

That is, they'll have a shot if white guys don't manage to screw it up by displaying sheer stupidity and immaturity. Like making threads about how much Asian women just luuuuuuuv white men.

Good point! I've seen some of those, and it's pretty incredible what some of them say. Some do it to cause some friction, but some are actually serious.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1772 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/31/2007 8:39:24 AM
Got sick of the garbage once I left college. Started dating women of color and never looked back.

But even still, you're running into the problem of Americanization. Didn't you state that Asian American women tend to have a chip on their shoulder? And you've reduced your preference to 'foreign' Asian women because of this?

Don't mean to sound bleak, but feminism is rising among minority women, Asian women no exception. Perhaps even outdoing White women, as noted once by a French feminist activist. Feminism is something I've never felt too positive about, and no doubt it's partaken in problems involving family life, etc. But, I'm beginning to see more of a positive side to it. I also think some of these 'other' individuals who bark the loudest about Asian women, will be the first to 'bash' them once they realize they're not the submissive tools they think they are. If they shamelessly bash White women (and Black and Hispanic in some cases), what makes one think they won't take it to Asian women once they get jilted or have 5 or 6 bad experiences?
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1771 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/31/2007 8:18:57 AM

or a raving nut like queennotprincess?

She did bring up a very valid question (that will no doubt be avoided like the plague). Why would an Asian woman reject a sound minded Asian man for some random White man? She gave a counter testimony of at least one Asian man to the normal negative one's on this thread. Notice RiverRun'sThruit's post. He just 'has' to do the opposite, and emphasize chauvinism in S-O-M-E Asian men. As if there wasn't an equal amount of chauvinism within the White male community. Talk about propaganda!
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1757 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/30/2007 1:02:11 PM
With all these posts about White women this, and White women that; and all the posts about White Women's weight, I can only conclude that it's either;

a) Many White males have been bashed, pelted, humiliated, by White women to some extraordinary magnitude.

or

b) Many White males have concluded that they are just far more superior than White women. They've felt they had to move on.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1705 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/17/2007 9:23:43 AM
*Jay


This particular girl; fat, husky, big, however one may want to put it, was or is an active, fairly energetic girl. I've certainly known women who were obese, and this girl didn't come anywhere close to them in weight or appearance. Was she at a health risk? Possibly. I won't deny that. Perhaps down the road she needs to take greater concern for her weight.

But the issues raised pertaining to overweight White women has been more about appearance than health. If it were more about health, there's obvious health risks irregardless of weight. Look at all the slender beautiful women that smoke, and are just a stones throw away from all kinds of medical problems.

My point was more along the lines of dissecting the overweight categories. wonkabar's percentages still reveal a somewhat high volume of obesity. I think normally, when we think of obese, we think of someone who can barely move. This particular girl was categorized as obese, and because we have been primarily focusing on physical appearance, this girl broke the usual mold of being undesirable.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1702 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/16/2007 2:43:35 PM

Yea, it's only about 65%, and more than 50% of that is women. www.obesity.org, if memory serves.

I also think one needs to consider what exactly is considered obesity. In other words, technically, is it always a grotesque/disease oriented situation? I worked with a young lady who was on the large size. I would describe her as solid looking. The girl is basically a 'fox'. One guy was suspended because he apparently couldn't keep his hands off of her. The irony is, from her own words, her doctor identified her as being 'obese'. I was rather shocked. I don't think there's too many men that would refuse her. Especially those that like buxom gals. I don't think the word 'obese' would come to mind to anyone.


And I thought we were moving *forward* in terms of race relations. Granted, they're both comedies, but... oy.

My sentimentalities exactly!
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1696 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/16/2007 10:02:20 AM

Don't let the phony profile photos fool you, most Canadian Women are as large as American ones, I would guess maybe even larger on average and even more surly. They don't call the city I'm from "Cowtown" for nothing you know, "Stampede" week just finished and I'm lucky I wasn't trampled by the herds of husky women running around desparately looking for the fried chicken booths.

This is very ironic. The word 'husky' is often used as a positive for a male. Usually, where a woman is fat, a man is 'big', 'big-boned', or 'husky'. But here, even a husky woman loses.

Basically, by the using the big-boned/husky marketing technique of the western (White) male, this ensures his still being able to take advantage of the pizza/beer parties with the boys, whereas the western (White) female needs to battle w/anorexia.


But if you want 'em, have 'em, I don't care if they question my 'handle' or not. We need more Caucasian men like yourself who love Caucasian women and are willing to take them as girlfriends and wives - keeps the economy going, the taxes rolling in and all but ensures that the men work until they're dead to pay off their huge mortgages that they were pressured into getting. Go for it and enjoy. I don't want too many guys over here finding out that there's a paradise of better women on the other side of the planet .... this just means even more choice of Asian women for the enlightened few like myself.

Dude you're far from enlightened. Your mindset wreaks of European colonialism. It's funny how when you see races approach each other, you even have the far extreme when you see threads asking "as a (given race), would I stand a chance with someone from (given race)?". But often, when it's a white male who's interested in Asian females, it's "I will get one", "when I get one", "I will take one", etc. You act as if Asian women are fruit on a tree to pick at your disposal. You're even greedy about it.

I've been to both Asia and Central America. There's some definite similarities. As far as the men, basically you don't want to mess with them. Both Asian and Central American men are generally very well-mannered. However, White foreign men feel they have more of a lee-way with Asian women. Central American women are extremely beautiful. They are also very 'slender' as well as tan. There's no doubt that if things were the same way in Central America as they are in some Asian countries, there'd be a Central American woman fetish to rival the existing Asian fetish any day. The fact is, white males will either not go near them, or approach them more respectively (as in not being over-presumptuous, and respective to the males as well). This situation could easily be the same in Asian countries. In fact, as I understand it, some English teachers were run out of Seoul Korea for their obvious Asian fetishes.

One day Asia may get fed up with these types, and this paradise that sweetguy is talking about may entail losing the presumptuousness. In other words; "if an Asian woman would see fit to having me" vs. "I will proceed to take an Asian woman".
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1691 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/15/2007 6:47:50 PM
I think we should give credit where it's due. staticks was smart enough to not start a thread that would of been deleted.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1677 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/13/2007 7:16:59 PM

Actually, I wince at those. They fuel the stereotypes of white men, so that when I approach an Asian woman I have to worry about whether or not she'll think I'm one of "those" guys.

I can understand that. Those types definitely do give White men a bad name.



Hmm... well, to be honest I wouldn't believe what he said - but that's only because I have my experiences in China as a reference. My ex's friends didn't throw themselves at me, obviously, but they were wonderfully sociable, doing their best to be good hostesses, make me feel welcome, and show me a good time in their city. For a guy who can't beg, borrow, or steal a smile from American women back home, having a gaggle of beautiful girls hanging on your every word, doing their best to speak to you in your own language, taking you out to dinner, etc. can kinda go to your head. It's just a natural guy-ego-extension to go from "wow, these women sure are friendly" to "yea, they all want me."

Very true! And your explanation of your experience is a sane one. What tends to irk me about many of these White English teachers in Japan/Korea is their tendency to bring the supposed "White Standard Of Beauty" theme into the picture. Said poster had also mentioned something to the effect that Asian as well as other non White ethnicities prefer the 'fairer skin'.

In reality, in Japan it's a minority of women that prefer White men. And as you had wisely pointed out, there's a segment of Japanese women that like Black men. And yes, it is true that the male ego tends to inflate itself beyond it's elastic capacity.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1674 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/13/2007 11:12:20 AM

What's really cracking me up about the last few pages of this train wreck is how people've been saying "Asian women are this, that, the other thing, no man in their right mind would want that"

It's an endless cycle, and it depends on where one's bias lies. When a poster compliments an Asian women with the virtues you've mentioned in your following thread, to you that's a satisfying post. When a poster mentions more sexist comments like "tight p8ssy" (in the disguise of a complimentary post), etc., you may not endorse those comments, but you probably overlook them. To me, the comment by the poster's friend who taught in Japan was offensive because it sounds like another typical White teacher who hangs out in the Rappongi , and over exaggerates. By doing this, Japanese women have a horrible reputation. But to you, it may barely phase you at best.

I myself see this thread as a license to play the Asian woman against the White woman. To make a counter statement on this thread, the way to get one's point across is to make 'strong statements', and then tone things down with what you really mean when challenged. I think many of the 'counter' comments made that come off strong are done so to remain in context with the flow of the thread. And the statements are often spurred in a degree of anger by other postings. An example would be one who wants to make a stand against the bashing of the White women. Obviously stating that 'all women are beautiful' is not going to get the point across. So stronger statements towards some White men, and some Asian women are made. They're usually followed up with things like "in my experience", or "not all are like this". But the stronger statements are what will be noticed. And then when the stronger statements are cchallenged, the following less noticed quotes can be brought up as a backing.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1663 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/11/2007 11:51:13 PM

Thanks for tha concern Spode, I think most of tha swellin has started to go down. I'm feelin right as rain.----

Well, I'm sure it was all worth it. I mean what other contact sport is 'co-ed' other than Roller Derby?
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1662 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/11/2007 11:37:53 PM

You see none of them here are willing to take any blame to why their women are so turned off by them. Interracial Relationship is suppose to be a great thing, but most of these guys here are degrading White women and using is as an excuse to date Asian women.


I can totally understand your sentiment. Plus, when one has known a number of beautiful White women (both externally and internally), the bashings are going to come across as ridiculous as they actually are.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1632 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/10/2007 12:59:41 PM
thaskateguy: I think you've been banged around a bit too much on the oval track!
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1630 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/10/2007 12:27:39 PM

There is also the aspect that Asian women are looking for something different. Japanese women in particular are wanting out of the traditional Japanese marriage trap.

Although there's some truth to this and some of the other things you mentioned, these are only a part of the equation. In fact, many of it is excuses. What many Japanese and Asian women are experiencing is mere 'Western Euphoria". This is similar to some White males who have both a fascination with Asian women and Asia/All things Asian (as opposed to the White male who only likes Asian women, but dislikes anything else affiliated with Asia).

The West has been romanticized in the East for years, just as the East has been romanticized here. Ironically, in terms of 'media romanticizing' and it's obvious influence, Korea is romanticized in Japan quite effectively. And thus, many Japanese women have become interested in Korean men. So it's not just 'Whitey' (as much as I think a lot of people would like to believe). So many of the Japanese and Chinese women in places like Canada, U.S., Australia, etc., experiencing the euphoria of moving and living in the West, are unable to separate the euphoric experience without a having a relationship with a Western man. Or the euphoric experience itself of being in the West is 'incomplete' without a Western man. This is similar to the White man who loves Japanese and/or Asian culture, loves visiting Asia, but can't separate the 'euphoric' experience from having an Asian woman. In other words; walking through that beautiful tea garden in Kyoto might literally be out of the question without a Japanese woman.

Things are moving fast. This Asiaphelia sh*t has accelerated quite a bit over the last few years, even though it's basically been around for 'many' years. Eventually it will take it's toll. It's not just the idea of Asian women becoming more 'trashy' like Western women as stated by another poster who claims to have "the fever". Eventually, many Asian women will start looking to White woman. Not sexually of course, but the more feminist aspects that us men complain about. As it stands now, the Asian women you're referring to are 'conformists', not 'feminists'. Those Asian women you see as news anchor women? 'Conformists', not 'Feminists'. Those actresses, female athletes, etc.? 'Conformists', not 'Feminists'. Some may be rebelling against their Asian male counterparts; but many are merely conforming to the White man. Right now they're looking at their female friends who have White husbands and BFs, and think they want that. Eventually they will look at the White woman who stands up to the White man.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1618 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 7/9/2007 6:51:13 PM

the one sickness for which no infected white man wants a cure.

Although the term is loosely thrown out quite a bit by people of all races, inevitably it's going to bring offense. Not just because of it's sexual/racial exploitive nature. Knowing this, it can become contradictory to claim to love Asian women, and use the term at the same time.

The term 'Yellow' is not an accepted term overall by Asians as is the terms 'White' or 'Black' (i.e., White-American, Black-American). In America, we've had a tendency to 'color code' in spite of other racial groups' wishes. The term 'Yellow' in itself, is not a flattering color for one to refer to themselves based on the obvious context it represents when related on a human level. Again, it is often loosely used by some Asians at times (i.e., "I used to be a banana; yellow on the outside, white on the inside", etc.), but don't let it's relatively loose acceptance fool you. It's really not any more acceptable as referring a Native American as being 'Red', or a 'Red man/Redskin'. Just as the term 'Redskin' has a very negative historical meaning to it, there's another negative term used called 'Yellow face". This term is used in the dramatic arts to refer to making up a White actor to appear like an Asian (Fu Manchu, etc.).
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 36 (view)
 
What does you are too nice actually mean?
Posted: 7/9/2007 6:59:49 AM
What does you are too nice actually mean?

In the context of dating, I think it usually means they are 'not' interested. In the early stages of getting to know someone, if someone is interested in someone there's no limits to how nice someone can be. If it's total infatuation, the person who is being pedestalized will be considered nice for doing so little. If a woman goes out with a rock star she's infatuated with (as unlikely as this would be), and he had strange sex fetishes; he'd be labeled as the nicest guy in the world by her, just for allowing her to use his shower after their encounters (even if it's a golden shower).

The word 'nice' in another context (usually by females) basically means "cute or attractive". This may be more schoolyard talk, but not limited to. If someone is said to be "soooo nice", it's tied in with physical appearance. If a geek is equally nice or more in it's 'true meaning', then he's a pervert or weirdo.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Why can't people just accept the Truth?
Posted: 7/7/2007 1:26:36 PM

Gee, I really hope this wasn't the case, truly pathetic, lol. Thanks for responding.

No problem.

You may however be surprised how many men 'brag' about not being able to get a woman. It's often in man's tendancy to brag. And the most average man can always find someone. Even hated crimininals have been known to have a woman stick by them. So you usually get one extreme or the other. Many brag about how they can get a number of women, and some will even say 'any' woman. The other extreme would be the person who is so unique in his mind, that unlike the rest of us spoiled men, no woman is willing to have a relationship with him. So they will lay the subtle "born with a silver spoon in the mouth" accusation to anyone who is married or has a steady GF (i.e., "Oh how lucky you are to be able to go home to a nice woman. Me on the other hand has things much tougher than you.").

Just to open the possibilty of this being the case with this gentlemen, what these types often do is develop some sort of "quirk" in their behavior to ensure rejection. For someone to ring someone's phone off of the hook sounds like a "quirk". The logical thing for him to do would of been to heed your request, and figure that after a period of time he may have a chance. But hugging someone like he did you, and then ringing their phone off of the hook is certainly not tactful.

However, given there's two segments of a story; it might be interesting to know what he tells himself in his mind. From your side, he obviously acted innapropriately. What he may tell himself is; in spite of all his efforts in winning you over (all the lavish signs of affection, etc.), once again he's failed to win a woman over.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 34 (view)
 
Why can't people just accept the Truth?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:04:12 AM
It could be a whole number of reasons. The ones mentioned, and the possibility that he may be one who feeds 'off of' rejection. There are some who sub-consciously prefer to be the chaser, and actually feed off of the rejection. This happens for a number of reasons. One like this may of had the experience as a kid of someone having a crush on them that made them feel uneasy. Or, they need the feeling of being 'unique'. Since they can't be that 'unique' ladies man type, rather than being the average type who can find a mate but not anyone they choose, they feel it better to convince themselves that they are that 'unique' individual who 'can't' get a woman. If this was that type of person, you're putting him off as just a friend may of lead you to become a target. He may of been telling himself that no matter what he did to court you, in his 'unique' way of turning women off he was rejected 'again'. And then of course, when he found out you had an assumed 'ex' you were getting back to, he may of decided to look for another victim who will feed his craving for 'uniqueness'. The whole thing to him may not be worth coming in-between another man.

Then again, maybe it was something entirely different.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1468 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/22/2007 1:12:31 PM

I am a WM who has dated Asian women pretty much exclusively for the last 5-6 years and have been lucky enough to know maybe a dozen really exceptional and beautiful Asian women. I am a man of a certain age as they say but in the past was a very handsome man now a "distinguished" man accustomed to being with beautiful women


I could go on and on about how wonderful this lovely women is and how I have enjoyed being with her and how I will not go back to WF who are so spoiled, self-centered, often out of shape, don't take care of the man in their life and have lost the game to the beautiful asian woman we have all around us here.

It's interesting how the "rules of the white standard of beauty" get bent when a white man tries to market himself. I use the term "white standard of beauty" sarcastically of course. But it's interesting how when a white man wants to substitute the Asian woman for the white woman, the white woman is somehow eliminated from the "WS of B" campaign. The white woman is "fat and out of shape", but the white man is "big, big boned, husky, etc.". The white woman "ages quickly". The white man becomes "distinguished looking". The white woman is "spoiled and selfish". The white man is "appreciative of his being pampered and spoiled".

Why is it that the noted negative aspects of white women seem to magically allude white men?
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 127 (view)
 
Re: How do you feel about Interracial Dating ?
Posted: 6/20/2007 6:55:59 PM
Although racism is racism, there is a general difference in the western world between 'White racism' or 'White supremacy', and non-white racism/supremacy.

In general, a White racist/supremacist became so through indoctrination and/or brainwashing. There's exceptions of course, but in general this tends to be the case. A good example would be the Neo-Nazis. They brainwash their children by telling lies similar to Nazi German propaganda. Non-White racism generally is produced through negative experience. Even though this applies more to Western society, there's still more global truth to this, especially when viewing things like historical colonizations.
 senor spode
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Msg: 32 (view)
 
50%
Posted: 6/20/2007 10:32:00 AM
Good question.
 senor spode
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Msg: 1453 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/20/2007 8:39:25 AM

Why do white guys get all the hottest women of other races ?

Years and years of global marketing:

Flash Gordon, Robin Hood, Superman, James Bond, etc...

Why average white guys do well:

Richard Dreyfuss, Woody Allen, Revenge Of The Nerds*, etc...

*Although they were somewhat multi-racial; which one ended up getting the blond?
 senor spode
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Msg: 1 (view)
 
Christian rock - a turnoff?
Posted: 6/17/2007 9:04:59 PM
Is a Christian rock/metal concept album religious hype? Some Christian artists don't like to be labeled, but many Christian rockers have a direct Gospel message. If a Christian band/artist sounded good, with blatant Christian lyrics, would you purchase it, or avoid it because of religious content? Of course many of the bands who've recorded had less than quality production. Basically, very low budget production. There are some exceptions though.
 senor spode
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Msg: 21 (view)
 
Genesis self titled 1983 album...
Posted: 6/17/2007 8:42:07 PM
The S/T is good. Their early Gabriel was better. But Wind and Wuthering was Phil Collins, yet very prog/artsy, just the way I like it.
 senor spode
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Msg: 12 (view)
 
Flamer's Bible
Posted: 6/15/2007 2:39:00 PM
I think someone tried to do #2 on me the other day at a different board.
 senor spode
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Msg: 1438 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/12/2007 11:51:01 AM

"As a cultural phenomenon, cuteness is increasingly accepted in Japan as a part of Japanese culture and national identity.


Every country has it's dark side. Much of that cuteness you're referring to in Japanese culture is no exception. In the Kamakura era, the Samurai took a liking to cute young boys. This carried into young girls emulating the young boys. Although the Japanese and most Asian nations are not notorious for this type of thing, this is fairly common knowledge among even the most ardent Asian activists.

I also pity any foreigner who may let their over fascination with the 'cuteness' factor of Japan land them in a Japanese jail. That's where Japan's "cuteness" factor ends.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1424 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/7/2007 1:31:30 PM
Wonkabar:

Obviously this will differ individually. But in this case we're talking about one who. if a woman doesn't meet his standards, apparently a dog, pizza, and a beer will suffice.
 senor spode
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Msg: 1422 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/7/2007 1:13:18 PM

Women that are too "Americanized" are okay for a general "roll-in-the-hay", but a man in his right mind would not want to tie into a steady relationship with these women in the area of marriage or basically long term.


If a man is no longer inclined to be with women [too much bother for any benefit], he can get a nice dog to hug and watch a good tv program with a pizza and a beer.

Do you see a contradiction here?

Assuming that this is your viewpoint as well, and considering the fact that the topic at hand is about Asian/Eastern women, are you un-Americanized? I see a lot of these comments and I have to wonder, are you a White man shunning American ways and are a practicing Bhuddist or Hindu?

The first quote would lead me to believe you just got back from meditating in Tibet.

However, the second quote leads me to believe your looking for a wife who will massage your feet while you watch NASCAR on Sunday.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1411 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/4/2007 3:22:52 PM

Reminds me of when criticism of the fashion modelling industry, specifically that all African-American models had "caucasian" features, led a particular agency to hire a very striking African model, who in no way looked even remotely white. The criticism *then* shifted to "she's a bad representation of African-Americans, now they're portraying us as savages."


It's lose-lose, really - and it tells me that the situation is never going to go away, because you can't please everybody.

You make valid points here. But I think there's some "obviouses" that shouldn't be overlooked just because we can't please everyone, and there will be inevitable criticism. And the situation with the African model, I think goes to show that the Black American does have a voice that is listened to, at least more so than other minority groups. And yes, there will be counter criticism. However, *now*, we actually do have more female models with more African features. There's a particular African ethnicity who's females are rather popular to use as fashion models. Granted, they're somewhat light-skinned like Ethiopians, but distinct none the less. David Bowie's wife is one of them I believe. As far as the criticism aimed at the African model being savage, unless she was dressed in tribal garb, it sounded like more of an insult to 'her' by the way you described it.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1407 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/4/2007 1:40:47 AM

Maybe it's best not to go there but Asians don't have to make a lists of demands because they know how to get status without it. My general feeling about Asians that they are exclusionary by nature or they have developed a culture that is that way.

I don't think so. Not anymore than anyone else. Unless they're in an isolated ethnic neighborhood, I've perceived that they've had every intention of assimilating. My Russian ancestors who immigrated as adults didn't assimilate themselves. They lived in a transplanted culturally Russian lifestyle among other Russian Americans. Assimilation is not easy for anyone when immigrating as an adult. The children automatically assimilated with no problem. Whether an immigrant is from a White non- English speaking European country, or a non-White country, it's common for the first generation immigrant to remain 'exclusionary'. It's far easier to live and mingle within one's own ethnic community. However, the children of the White immigrants will find it far easier to assimilate than a non-White child. The ethnic status will eventually vanish along the White following generation. The ethnic status remains with the non-White generations no matter how hard they try to assimilate. They're exceptions of course, but overall this is the tendency.

To me it's funny that Asians would have a Euro inferiority complex when it comes to looks because they live among themselves who can tell that Asians eyes are not pretty? When Malcom X preached to the crowd telling them "Who taught you you were ugly" "the white man taught you you were ugly" he lived within the white man culture, so he had a good agruement, but what's the Asian's man excuse? That he shares a planet with the white man?

I think you may be confused here. For one, Asian Americans/Canadiens/Europeans do live within the white man culture. Also, the idea that Asians have a Euro inferiority complex is a notion developed by over-hyped stories of skin-whitening creams in Malaysia, and plastic surgeries in China.

There's a false notion that an Asian male who protests ethnic stereotypes, and is concerned about the dating/marriage disparity has a Euro inferiority complex. There's an equally false notion that an Asian male who gets dates very easily with a woman from any color, will somehow be way above having any concern with these issues. In essence, he becomes the MODEL MINORITY. And some will try to use this assumed model minority person as an example of one who rose above stereotypes in an attempt to justify our societies racism. Many Asian males who are already married, and theoretically wouldn't have a need for concerns about emasculation in the media and it's contribution to the dating disparity, do in fact recognize the harm it does overall to their race. There's also future generations to be concerned about. It's an ethnic empowerment issue, not some sort of personal insecurity issue.

The fact is, our society wants to desperately hang on to these stereotypes. They're a comedic commodity. Something Hollywood can always fall back on when they want a comedy effect.
 senor spode
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Msg: 1404 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/3/2007 9:47:18 PM

No, but it should stick to the original topic that it was intended in the 1st place.

I agree with many of your posts, but I have to admit I'm a bit curious because I've seen this stated a couple of times. What exactly (without just re-stating the exact words of the title) is 'on topic'? And/or, what is 'not' on topic?
 senor spode
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Msg: 1403 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/3/2007 7:19:17 PM

AND WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN WHEN YOU SAY MINORITIES HAVE NO REAL SAY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MEDIA


HAVE YOU READ ABOUT DON IMUS LATELY

As I stated before, some activist groups wield more power. Theoretically, the "Civil Rights Movement" should of benefited all as far as having a voice, but it's positive results were limited to Black Americans thus creating this imbalance we see today. Yes, it's true, certain Black activist groups 'can' in fact have someone's head when offended. Lisa Lampanelli can get away with it because she tosses insults towards Blacks in a structured calculative format. Richards and Don Imus were careless perhaps figuring they could get away with the same.

On the same night of the Imus debacle, 2 DJs conducted prank phone calls to Asian restaurants on the air. They made offensive sexual connotations to both a man and woman they conversed with. This did not receive any where near the same media attention as Imus. The DJs where suspended, not fired, and probably because of poor timing on their part because djs are notorious for this type of action. There's been many cases where this has occured and nothing was done.

The only reason why white people get constantly attacked for their "racist" views because they have the money, power and status. And that's what this white man's burden really boils down to. It has nothing with love, equality or unity for the races. It's all about money, power and status.

In some ways I agree with this, but maybe not in the same context. Or there's parts I agree with in a different context. Basically, it seems you're thinking along the lines of "if we give them an inch, they'll take a mile". One of the problems with your overall viewpoint is that there's a different scenario/issue with each race. Most Native Americans are living in extremely squalid conditions, and have the barest of minimum of a voice. There 'is no' Native American version of an Al Sharpton.

The problem with coming to any resolutions with Native Americans is the fear of it resulting in reparations and how much would they expect. So the question arises "what would you have us do, pack up and go back to Europe? After all, it wasn't I that invaded your land, I/we weren't even born yet". So consequently, nothing happens. We give them a few lousy casinos and want to call it even. The majority of Asian Americans on the other hand, on average live in fairly good conditions. However, unlike Black Americans, they have no real voice as well. Most people probably don't realize that there are any Asian American activist groups. Generally, they don't demand "do's" so much as they demand "don'ts". In similarity to the Native American demand to do something something simple like remove a sports nickname like the Washington "Redskins", they demand what we take as humor and they take to be degrading removed from our media sources. So when they ask that racial stereotypes be removed that perpetuate the current dating disparity, our knee-jerk response is "are you saying I can't date one of your women? You must be a racist." This reaction always seems to side-step the 'real' issue because the protest is overall 'not' against White men dating Asian women. The White man fears he will be profiled as a fetishist or Asiaphile, while the Asian man has to continue to deal with being profiled by his own race as a controlling chauvinist. So consequently, nothing gets done. The racial stereotypes continue.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1399 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 6/3/2007 10:14:55 AM

Yeah! Jay a British woman made an observation about Asians so it must be a RACIST statement. And you're observation of the British woman is what SCIENCE or philosophy?

Actually, throughout the entire thread there's been many potshots taken at Asians, both casual like the one you've quoted, and some blatant and anger filled. To add to that, many potshots are taken specifically at Asian males even though they're not mentioned in the thread title.


Nope! We don't live as one human race living in one culture and we don't live in a world where people want to live in true unity, so as long as we are divided by all the isms of this world our observations of different cultural groups will never be free from racism.

Although what you're saying is true, it's context is contradictory. The fact that we are not all one culture (in the Western world) is exactly why each racist oriented action needs to be viewed differently. For instance, in the U.S., one might note the fact that in the media racist jokes are aimed at Whites as well. And because of this, no minority should protest or complain when racist jokes are aimed at them. However, media jokes aimed at Whites are mere appeasements. They're under scrutiny, and are subject to censorship or deletion by the powers that be. If not, it would be 'underground'. Minorities have no real say as far as what is said in the media. It generally takes public action to have something degrading removed, or a public figure be held accountable. Some activist groups wield more power than others, so certain actions are more likely to take place. But overall, it's rare.

So, your factual statement that we are 'not' all one color appears to be an excuse to justify certain racial comments. The fact that some comments are more 'casual' as opposed to 'blatant' doesn't mean they shouldn't be pointed out. Some casual racial comments are said more in a sub-conscious manner because it's their societies norm. But, again, this doesn't mean it shouldn't be pointed out that it contributes to the overall racism that exists aimed at a particular racial group.

That being said, the 2 individuals you're referring to have never said anything ethnically negative in this thread unless they were provoked.
 senor spode
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Msg: 1388 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 5/31/2007 11:33:47 PM
I see your point wonkabar, but I think there's more to it than that. At the same time there's compensating programs, there's still discrimination. Just like businesses never do 'anything' unless they come out further ahead than the customer they're giving a deal to, there's no handouts made where the idea is not for personal benefit by the powers that be. The 'Civil Rights Movement' theoretically should of benefited all races, but instead it brought the focus more solely on Black Americans at that time. And it's benefits are seen today by the power some of their activist groups wield, and the number of high profile leaders/speakers that outnumber those of other races. When the Activist Groups come down on a public figure for making a racial slur, he's pretty much heading to the chopping block. One of the last things I'm sure the powers that be want is another Civil Rights Movement by another racial group.

When Asian Americans make noise about a racial slur made by a DJ, it lingers around the internet for awhile before anything's done, if anything 'ever' gets done. The 2 DJ's who made prank calls to Asian restaurants on the air, were unfortunate enough to of done it the same night of the Imus scandal. They had to take action on them when the complaints came in. And they were only suspended for a period of time as I understand it. There's more of a tendency to hide the fact that there are other activist groups, perhaps even especially Asian groups. By making noise about what they are doing for Black Americans, they can maintain a "keeping up appearances" fixture. And realistically, in spite of any action or civil rights groups run by whites, the minority groups themselves are still kept at bay. They're still kept on the lower levels of the totem pole. These programs haven't brought them equality, nor elevated them above us. Giving various hand-outs to some individuals just keeps them at the 'desired' level of the totem pole by the powers that be.

There's certainly no apparent advantage placed on Native American women due to the feminist pendulum swing. Even if they make it to a major university and get a degree, they generally still face quite a bit of discrimination. They face rape more than any women of any racial group in America. And this is largely due to the fact that the attackers who the majority of the time are White, will more than likely get away with it. And this of course is irregardless of whether or not the woman is educated. In contrast, the assimilation of the Asian woman is happening all over, including States that house the larger Indian Reservations, and Southern States in general known to be less tolerant to non-White races.

I do think there's some misconceptions as far as Asian males being elevated. One person explained to me that he had a hard time believing that there were any injustices towards them, because they rated as the most successful minority group. Well the problem with that statement for one is that it still places them at 2nd level on the totem pole. Our country is based on the principle that all men are equal. So each individual no matter what race they're in has a right to pursue equality in "every/all" aspects. While we may not aggressively be trying to discourage Asian males, we (in the general sense) want to keep them in the "Model Minority" category. Basically, stay quite, be happy with your educational opportunities, don't fight or protest jokes/stereotypes made towards your race...male or female, etc.

But the thing is, the very thing you stated about putting Asian females in the spotlight to appease minorities and feminists, is exactly what Asian Activists, and socially conscious Asians are protesting. Including a number of Asian females. Do you remember that blog that one poster copied onto his post that was written by an Asian female who was disgruntled about White males she encountered who exhibited tendencies towards fetishism? There's actually quite a number of them written by both Asian males and females. What's interesting is when you read the responses by many of the White males. You can clearly see where the line is drawn on Asian females and feminism. Usually the White male lingo goes something like this: (to the Asian male) "Leave Asian women alone. They have a free and intelligent mind to make their own decisions. Stop trying to 'bind' their feet". However, when the pendulum in their free intelligent mind swings back towards their roots so to speak, by seeing that the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side, the uglier movie version of Mr. Hyde (not Spencer Tracy but the other one) tends to come out of the White males responding. It's really rather bizarre when you contrast their responses to the typical poems posted on threads like this. So, yes I would say overall that the preference towards an independent free-thinking (feminist) Asian female has it's boundaries as far as many a White male is concerned.
 senor spode
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Msg: 1386 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 5/30/2007 4:27:17 PM
To vin:

Here's the problem with your self-centered analysis: American male (White male to be more specific) society uses feminism itself for personal gain when dealing with Asian women. Feminism (in the form of positive self-identity) is encouraged as far as Asian women are concerned. Why do you think you see more Asian female TV newscasters, actresses, politicians (like the newly appointed mayor of Palo Alto, CA which boasts to some degree about voting in the first Asian mayor in that city), real estate agent photos on billboards, and other high profile activities/professions than Asian males? Go into any major bookstore chain, and count how many books in the "Asian studies" section have books by Asian male authors in comparison to Asian female authors. As a matter of fact, concerning Asian studies, there's usually more White male authors. White female and Asian male authors tend to run a bit closer in numbers.

How's that for political uncorrectiveness?
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1384 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 5/30/2007 2:13:48 PM

Good Gawd and I thought I was left wing

Oh I wouldn't diminish any level of being Left Wing on your part. Left Wingers are known to take the viewpoint that there is no color, so therefore there's 'no' real issues that need to be addressed. You would be the quintessential campfire song service leader.


I like how you conveniently evaded cutting pasting my remarks of having friends that are North American women... for over 20 years...

The reason why I conveniently avoided cutting/pasting some of your remarks was because I would of been here all day. It wasn't evasion. No offense but, as far as having North American female friends regardless of how many years, the racist disc-jockey who prank called a Chinese restaurant 'on-air', and insulted both male and female workers, is either dating or married to an Asian porn model. A noted racist politician in the South is married to a Vietnamese women. Are you racist? I don't think so. But I think it's unfair to use a particular race (in this case Asian females) as a model to use as a standard of comparison for White women. Incidentally, I do recall posing a few questions that seemed to of gone unanswered. But that's okay. You of course don't have to answer them.


and funny how i can joke with them, say things like the heck with you north American gals..blah blah and everyone takes the shots with a grain of salt and 'laughs"...

Ohh okay. So you were just joking. Fine. No problem.


your gonna spin yourself into a frenzy of frustration if you keep putting so much passion into this

Posting something on an internet forum hardly qualifies as going into a frenzy of frustration. Chances are, after this I might be clicking the mouse over to a 'fly fishing' discussion board and forget everything I wrote. Look at it as...my being ambiguous.


I did clearly stipulate that, i wrote that posting for that woman, when i was VERY ANGRY (as in a frenzied passion?) and I did do it, without review...However, you want to make a federal case out of it

Naw, this thread has un-officially entered the post-apocalyptic era where there is virtually no law as we officially know it today. The moderators that 'are' assigned to this unit have to be quarantined.


and you still don't go at "her"

I don't know what more you want me to do. I addressed and quoted her in a post to you. After awhile, you kind of can tell who's going to come back and post, and who isn't.


she is the one who needs the lecture

Are you kidding? That would be like placing a t-bone steak on the pavement, and dragging a German Shepherd by the collar over to it. Whenever someone goes off like that, I don't need to lift a finger. Just sit back and watch. I decided to instead inquire as to why you only quoted that one part of her statement pertaining to Asian women, and didn't include what she said about Asian men. I didn't lose any sleep over it, but just thought I'd ask.


I know you are not Asian

Oh okay. It's just that there was a rather unusual comment about blond males...but oh well...maybe just another case of ambiguity


You seem to get upset with men who like Asians

Problem with men who like Asians? No. Men who exploit Asians or any other race, yes! For instance, there are some who have posted here who I would say have a preference for Asian women. Not that my opinion matters overall, but it's very clear that they're 'not' exploitive in nature. They abhor racism. On the other hand, there are many White males, definitely here in the States, that would gladly share the same bed with an Asian woman, make rather crude vaginal reference remarks, and then verbalize demeaning remarks towards the Asian male gender. Quite frankly, how 'some' Asian females can overlook this (in the general sense, not referring to anyone here), is somewhat baffling. This person in essence, is literally putting her brother(s) 'and' father down. If I dated, say, an Hispanic or Black woman, and I insulted the male gender of her race/ethnicity, quite frankly, I would expect her to let me have it. I realize this is another question, but what do you think about these particular individuals who combine sexist and racist comments? And to kill two quotes with one post, I have no problem whatsoever with seeing Caucasians with people of different ethnicities.


Who has been taking "huge" shots at you???...and why???

No one. Ambiguity reigns supreme!


You contradict yourself with this statement. I don't hae any white women taking huge shots at me

Didn't say you did. Incidentally, the 'huge shots' statement I made was in in honor of your own words from a prior thread.


and not all Asian women are subservient to North American or Asian social dogmatism, of a woman being submissive...So stop generalizing

Where did I do this? I can tell you for a 'certainty' that not all Asian women fall into these categories. In fact, I think some White males want to praise them for this as long as there's certain limitations. I praise the ones especially that transcend 'beyond' the White man's limitations (as if we had the right to place boundaries anyway). I also choose to honor the Asian woman by placing her on equal ground with women of all races. Not demeaning her, nor pedasalizing her (i.e, using her as a model to use as a standard of comparison for White women).


You have gone at this thread and attempted to thrwart the intent of the Op from bringing in other issues than why men like to date Asian women

Spoken like a true Left Winger! Okay Insurgent, this Bud's for you!

"Asian women tend to be more faithful than White or other women. They tend to be more feminine. They are often more educated than other women.

They tend to be submissive (southern redneck version).

They're not the stereotyped subservient women, but they are self-confident and independant (Left Wing liberal version).

And of course us White men tend to be more sexually attractive than Asian men, so all aspects combined have produced a very unique interracial combination between White males and Asian females."

Is that better?

BTW, do you know the OP personally? You seem to have some insight to where you're able to translate the intent of the OP's post into something contrary to the title. The title doesn't ask "why do men like to date Asian women?". It asks "why do I see more Caucasian men dating Asian women?". This opens up a broad avenue of discussion. Your comment shows you want to limit it's discussion to your own liking.


In my city we have one of the largest China Towns in North America...English is a "second" language...and everyone is very content here and lives very harmoniously

I live in a big country that has some areas that are somewhat similar to your city. However, there are some regions where one who ten years ago was saying "I never liked them there Asians", are now, due to globalized media exploitation saying, "I sure love them Chineeeeese women". Where ten years ago the same person who said "all Asians look the same", are now experts on the differences (including sexually graphic due to pornography) between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc. women. And not everyone is living harmoniously as you can tell from recent media news events.


and as I said on my other posting...and I notice how you didn't cut and paste this as well..."All women are beautiful"


Whoops. My apologies!


All women are beautiful



Stop being so sensitive and excitable over issues of this sort which you are quite powerless over my friend...wake up...you ain't gonna change the world, you can only change your world

Could one possibly give you the same advice?
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1376 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 5/30/2007 11:32:10 AM

You mean like some Asian men do?

There are certainly a number of White females in Japan looking for Japanese men with a White fetish. In Japan they sort of have an inside joke about themselves in regards to having a fetish for White women, or the idea of "worshiping" White women. I saw a commercial over there where a Japanese man kissed the hand of a statuesque blond woman at a high society dinner party. She then pulled her hand back, and with a disgusted look on her face wiped her hand on her dress. It's obviously something they look at more in humor.

However, White fetishes for women of other races have different faces. Where it may be viewed as a positive to an Asian woman in terms of using it for personal gain, to many Native American women it's a societal curse. Native American women are viewed as just as exotic as Asian women, but the Native American woman in general tends to be weary of White men. This is for a very good reason. Around Indian Reservations, 1 out of 3 women are raped, and 86% of the time it's by a White man.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1357 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 5/29/2007 12:10:21 PM
This thread is starting to go off topic now.

I have to highly disagree. Although the OP made references to Hispanic women, by and large the thread pertains to Whites and Asians including all genders. The various posters have made White women and Asian men a part of the subject. Although there may be some that would prefer the thread to consist of compliments towards Asian women only, it's just not realistic, nor is there any indication of it being the OP's intent. This thread has as much to do with Asian men and White women as the alternate genders displayed in the title. This is because 'some' feel that Asian males and White females are part of the reason this disparity exists.

Your posts mainly consist of your exuberance in finding the woman you're currently with. I wouldn't try and police the number of posts you've made on this subject. As far as I'm concerned, you're free to post away on it as much as you feel the need.

As far as insults, he's not hurting me any. And I'm not so much insulting him as I'm challenging some of his statements. I'm sure he can take it.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1355 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 5/29/2007 7:02:50 AM

the posting I went at was full of hate...and she was "bitter" about the fact of many men being attracted to Asian women...

Believe it or not, putting down Western women is getting just as insulting and tiresome as someone putting down Asian women which as I did clearly state is wrong as well. Don't think because you presented a generically slick way of insulting them, that your insults are somehow more justified.
 senor spode
Joined: 7/11/2006
Msg: 1354 (view)
 
Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 5/29/2007 5:57:42 AM

Didn't seem to mind something, I didn't see on a huge thread???

Well...it's just that one of those quotes was only about 2 posts up, and the other one was right in the very post you "and I" quoted from. And to be frank, it came across a tad bit strange to me.


and you better start getting a little more thick skinned

As far as I'm concerned, just call me Mr. Rhinoceros!


and bet ya i have seen a little more "action" than you have

That's just silly. Granted I don't know who you are, you also have no clue who I am. What do you want to do, PM each other our dating history?


You don't even cut and paste anything she said...Hmmmm

I most certainly did as mentioned before.


and you sir, are very bitter towards "us" now aren't you??

I don't see how I could be, given that I'm "Caucasian"!


Perhaps..one feels 'threatened" from the onslaught of North American men finding Asian women very appealing?

Well, since we've (hopefully) eliminated me in that I'm fully Caucasian, maybe you'd like to clarify who exactly you mean. White women? Asian men?


Do you know, how many threads i have seen, where someone asks, why do white "women" prefer, Black guys etc etc???. and then you go in there and all those caucasian women are taking huge shots at white guys, saying there d-icks are smaller are and 'praising" the given race that is posted???

Talk about "poor me". Sorry, can't jump on this bandwagon. I've seen those threads, and remember distinctively confronting a fellow Caucasian for overreacting to those statements on a different board.
So....we...the majority race have to suffer from internet threads! Mr. Insurgent, are you aware of the numerous radio disc-jockeys that have ridiculed Asian males concerning this stereotype? This includes the recent scandal where 2 DJ's made prank phone calls to Asian restaurants. This happened the same night as the Don Imus scandal. They were suspended, but not fired. Are you aware of how often the stereotype comes out in jokes on TV? Are you aware that the Burlington Coat Factory distributed some sweat-shirts that said "if Chinese are so smart, why are their d***ks so small? They finally removed it because of enough protest. This happened in the new millenium. No.....can't get too upset over a few silly threads about us white guys.


and also your bleeding heart sob stories about this thread being "males" issues...when it is intended to be a "womens" issues...

Can you please explain? I just can't seem to make any sense out of this. Even the title makes reference towards men.


it is called "rivalry of the sexes"

Ohhh, that's what it's called.


and I am simply thanking Asian women, for their obious eastern charm...

I'm kind of looking forward to the day they start taking huge shots at us like the White women are. We won't have anyone to fall back on. It'll make us....thick skinned.


grab a sense of humor and some backbone and you might get one some time

As a matter of fact, I was rather hoping that you'd fix me up with a middle-eastern gal.
 
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