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gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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All I want is good conversation... Posted: 4/13/2013 4:36:31 PM
Then go and talk to a wall.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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Thatcher is Dead Posted: 4/13/2013 4:35:11 PM
Well it's funny to come on the site after Thatcher has died, and find the usual stacks of hateful garbage against the dead Prime Minister. "ding dong the witch is dead" Really classy. It shows about as much class as intelligence. Thatcher was probably the best post-war Prime Minister the UK has had and this will probably remain the case. It's a shame she didn't pass any of her spirit on to the losers governing the country now. In a way, it's a good thing she was so divisive: It meant she actually stood for something, rather than the cowardly consensus seekers that in the end please noone, and leave the country better off. Britain's pride restored, and the grounds were set for several decades of prosperity. But what does this matter? As long as the pessimistic, pathetic lowlives can add "ding dong the witch is dead" as an answer, and continue moaning about politicians, as well as about their self-chosen, pathetic lives. "I am not a consensus politician. I'm a conviction politician." - Thatcher

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/30/2012 9:42:04 AM
Congratulations on finding love in here , i hope many more of us find it too .:) I wouldn't mistake some actual truth and amusing comments for love. I understand if you're not able to recognize the difference. By all means, you (pl.) can keep up the feel-good euphemistic garbage which gets us all nowhere.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/30/2012 7:42:58 AM
What reason would they give you anyway as it wasnt your thread or post , or was it ? Perhaps when there is an amusing topic which received quite a response, they should explain to the users why it was inappropriate or risk doing a disservice to the people participating. Also it would let people know exactly where the limits are, rather than leave things, as they seem now, up to the unilateral whims of the moderator and subject to interpretation. Lastly, unlike anything that you've ever written, I'll actually remember what Jonathan wrote.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/30/2012 6:23:05 AM
If someone could send me a copy of the original post of jonathan or anything similar, I'd be really grateful. They deleted both the thread he started and his post on this forum. What he wrote was gold and spot on, and I have no reason why the moderators took it down. Censorship, pure and simple.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/30/2012 5:17:31 AM
Jonathan, great post. Although what follows will not reach up to what you've written, here's my addition. WARNING (You will not like any of the following): -You're listed as 'A Few Extra Pounds' (Sorry, I just am not attracted to you. It's not meant in a judgemental way, it's just a physical preference) -You're under the categories: 'BROWSING' (you're wasting everyone's time)= 'Looking to Date but nothing serious' (why do we have airheads on a DATING site?) -Your picture just shows a close-up of your face. We’re not clueless concerning what you’re trying to hide. -Looking for 'friends'.... on a dating site. Can one not stress enough how annoying this is? -You're in a relationship/ 'not looking' (WHY exactly are you on the site?) -You're using the site as some self-confidence bulging playground. (many pictures in skimpy outfits, nothing to say) -You're not looking to go out of your hole, away from your computer screen. If you’re on a dating site, one would assume you’re not here to chat for 2 months before meeting at a café. As an added point: List of Stupid, Useless Majors overcrowded with female students that have no clue why they're at University: -Women's Studies (Haven of lesbian feminists who don't shave their armpits) -Environmental Studies -Anthropology -Sociology (I can indulge in wannabe post-modernist hybris as well without needing a degree for it) -Psychology (Some go on to do great things with it, others just use it as an excuse to go to class while partying the rest of the semester. Other poor saps think they can read people's minds from it) -Development -Communication (To learn to communicate, one would assume) -Ethics (To be ethical??) -Film Studies (I can watch movies too) -Conflict Studies/Human Rights -Global Studies (Yes, the world is big and round. Now learn something more specific) -Globalization Studies (Big Bad Corporations taking over the world and building McDonalds Restaurants on top of Navajo Teepees yadayadayada) -Theatre (speaks for itself) .............. -Bohemian Dance Studies… etc etc..

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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Iran Posted: 12/29/2012 9:08:28 AM
Maybe it does but disagreeing with the foreign policy of Israel doesn't equate to being anti-Semitic if the party disagreeing does so on the actions of a political party which just so happens to be in power. I think you would need to reread my comment. I made clear that disagreeing with Israel and/or Zionism is not anti-Semitism. But sadly many of the people that are of that persuasion are also anti-Semitic. I've met plenty that aren't, but some are and those people should be condemned. As the comments that I quoted show. Guru, You're so deeply rooted in your beliefs and seeing perceived prejudice anywhere and everywhere, it's impossible to have any sort of debate with you, without you reaching for the insults and pigeonholing. So sad, but a graphic illustration of just why Israel and it's supporters just don't feel the need to, or will ever grow up. No, I see racism and prejudice where it is and your comments are replete with them. Your comments went way past the line of simple politics and disagreement with Israeli foreign policy. The only person you have to blame is yourself. I merely quoted what you wrote.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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Iran Posted: 12/28/2012 7:15:15 AM
You're a disgrace and your comments condemn you more than I ever could. Let me be clear to stress that I don't think all critics of Israel and Zionism are anti-Semites. Indeed I gave you and other people the benefit of the doubt, but what you've written reveals something deeper. All Jews are not Zionists. All Zionists are certainly not Jews. Tell me Guru, Lord Rothschild of Balfour Agreement and International Banking fame. Was he a Zionist? You made the reach there Guru, trying to score cheap points, not me. Your quoted statement about 'Zionist' bankers is essentially what I've read from lots of different people in the past who usually think they can get away with the most vicious of attacks on Jewish people by replacing 'Jewish' with the word 'Zionist'. Zionism is a political ideology, mostly associated with the State of Israel. Here, instead, you evoke some kabal of 'Zionist bankers'. Given the constant rhetoric, including on here, of Jewish bankers controlling the world economy and being apart of a greater conspiracy, you expect to get away with words like this? Come on. Witness North Korea, and possibly the greatest Nuke bluff ever. Israel wants access to the Caucasian oilfields, Iran isn't playing, nor is it about to allow Zionist banking cartels to control their currency. So, they have to be punished. You know Arabs are Semites too don't you? Anti-Semitism in every usage and every dictionary from beginning of time means a hatred and dislike of Jewish people. This is usually how anti-Semites try to answer their accusation, with word games. It's what one would call a red herring. I find it funny how start trying to bring up what I would call legitimate criticism of Israel now, as if to insinuate that THAT is what I have a problem with. No, my poor lowlife, it's your comments from before, which I will gladly repost: Do it on your on Joos , the world is tired of being emotionally blackmailed into doing your made up sh1t for you. I suppose you meant to say 'Zionist' there as well right? You're a pathetic joke.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 47 (view)

Iran Posted: 12/28/2012 4:44:24 AM
call them whatever you wish ... Illuminati...New Worl Order ...Rothchild Zionists..etc ....the name is irrelevant... its Banks (Jewish Banks ) that manipulate 'everything' that goes on ...Period ! Looks like happychappie brought another racist friend along. Israel (just like the USA) is an evil regime, having invaded Palastine & slaughtering their citizens at will ...even to this day. The hysterical nonsense about Iran gaining nuclear powers is laughable I'll take the US and Israel any day over Iran, Saudi Arabia and the rest of tyrannical regimes. If you like them so much, I suggest you try and live there for a single day. I think the only misguided people are weirdos like you, who basically think of the world as a playground of conspiracies that just happen to be concurrent with what they want to believe.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 46 (view)

Iran Posted: 12/28/2012 4:36:03 AM
which further enriches Saudi Arabia, and their Israeli Oil Broking and Zionist Banking cartel chums. Israel wants access to the Caucasian oilfields, Iran isn't playing, nor is it about to allow Zionist banking cartels to control their currency. So, they have to be punished. I can't believe you're serious with comments like this. "Zionist Banking cartel?" Maybe you should just be clear and use the word 'Jewish'. Those greedy Jewish bankers messing up the world, right? As for Nukes, Israel is estimated to hold at least 250 TacNukes+ and illegally too. Conversely, Iran, who IS a signatory to the NNPT and allows inspections I suppose you haven't been reading the news for the past 3 years. Iran has violated the mandatory inspections and enriches uranium with none whatsoever. Maybe you wish to think the world is worked over Iran for nothing, but it clearly doesn't make sense. Witness North Korea, and possibly the greatest Nuke bluff ever. Israel wants access to the Caucasian oilfields, Iran isn't playing, nor is it about to allow Zionist banking cartels to control their currency. So, they have to be punished. Zionist banking cartels... Israel wanting to control oilfields in the Caucasian mountains... Are they any more conspiracy theories involving Jews and Israel that you wish to bring up? Then try to ward off the accusation that you might be a bit anti-Semitic? Do it on your on Joos , the world is tired of being emotionally blackmailed into doing your made up sh1t for you. This comment says it all: You're a lowlife.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/12/2012 11:58:06 AM
Break out. Be object, and rational, and skeptical. Leave me now, I grow weary.... I think practicing what you preach might be a good way to show you really mean it. I usually find it the height of arrogance for people to accuse others, with whom they disagree, of not 'being critical'. Being critical involves continuously challenging one's own pre-conceived notions. You don't seem to do that, but rather try to fit what you hear within your own worldview. I.e: Religions are wrong, there I have to fit the idea of 'Jewish people', incorrectly, within a framework of 'religion' and therefore make it wrong. The reader can decide for himself whether what I have written is closed-minded. I stand by what I've written. As for you: I think you either just don't get it or you pretend not to in order to stick to ridiculous points that you think are more defensible: Jewish identity and Jewish history as a people is more than just the religious component. I can't keep repeating this part, which you just blatantly ignore. The article goes into genetic evidence, history, archaeology, both ancient and modern Judaism. Ultimately, you'll just ignore it all because you prefer to just stick to a closed-minded view of things and of the world. It's not sufficient to change the subject and again attack the straw man. You cannot win an argument by making up arguments the other side never advanced. and then attack them. It's pathetic and you've done it at least 3 times in your last comments. But let's go a step further: Even if everything, and I mean everything in the bible were completely wrong. And every idea of people hood from the Bible is wrong, it does not take away from the fact that there is a group of people, connected to one another, that consider themselves Jews and have a shared history and identity and culture together. A people, that way before your time and my time, considered themselves different, were treated differently by the surrounding people in every place that they lived. A people that had different customs, spoke different languages from where they lived. Under every criteria (including, but not restricted to genetic), the Jewish people count as a separate national identity. The "Jewish Question" was a hot topic in Europe centuries before the Holocaust. Finally, on your obscure need to bring up the Bible (as if its relevant): The French connection of people does not depend on the veracity of the myths surrounding Charlemagne, nor does the idea of British identity depend on King Arthur. Every nation equally has the right of self-determination, whether you like the nation or not. This is what Zionism is. Whether you like it or not, Israel will continue to exist and make decisions of self-preservation that any other country or people in the same decision would make. If the Arab side chooses war, which is its track record, then Israel will defend itself, even if the Arab/Palestinian side chooses to cry "victim-hood" after getting its ass kicked. Having said that, I've had enough. I've said what needs to be said, and spending even more hours going back and forth, regurgitating the entire Middle East conflict, Judaism, modern Israel, is just simply beyond my time. The original topic was the Palestinian accession to the UN. I gave my viewpoint. I've had enough, and ultimately whether you choose to learn from what I've written or not is your own choice.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/12/2012 4:57:22 AM
That's because, with hindsight, there was no "legitimacy". They might have existed there, as a 'tribe', some 3,000 years ago (albeit briefly), but "god" didn't "give them the land" Jewish identity was born there and has always been attached to that land. But again, the point in terms of Palestine is that many of these Zionist settlers had come, bought land, lived there for at least a generation (not including the Jewish communities that had lived there even longer) and built settlements legally, including the city of Tel Aviv. The truth is out there. There are lots of 'truths' out there. And one quote from Noam Chomsky who is clearly not on the side of Israel, is not going to change that. Secularity (adjective form secular,[1] from Latin saecularis meaning "worldly" or "temporal") is the state of being separate from religion, or not being exclusively allied to any particular religion. People can believe themselves to be anything they like, but that doesn't make them right, or exempt from scientific scrutiny, which proves otherwise. And even if there is some ancestral genetic link to that area, you can't analyse the DNA of any individuals, back to some arbitrary point in time, to some point of origin, and then stake some contemporary claim to "ownership", based on that. It's a ludicrous proposition. If that was the methodology used to vindicate Israel's existence, Palestinians would still have a far better claim, than someone who's family had resided in northern Europe, for the last few centuries. According to you, secular Jews don't exist because, according to your limited knowledge, being Jewish is all about being religious. Then, you quote some source led by people that 'identify' as Jewish but aren't religious. You can't have it both ways. And even if there is some ancestral genetic link to that area, you can't analyse the DNA of any individuals, back to some arbitrary point in time, to some point of origin, and then stake some contemporary claim to "ownership", based on that. It's a ludicrous proposition. The argument was never based solely on DNA. It was only brought up as an example of proof of a contiguous Jewish people across the world. Essentially, this is your problem: You don't know much either about Jewish people or about Judaism, and therefore make the wrong kinds of generalizations with other 'religions', and refuse to inform yourself further. If that was the methodology used to vindicate Israel's existence, Palestinians would still have a far better claim, than someone who's family had resided in northern Europe, for the last few centuries. I never said it was. You can't make up arguments that the other side never made, then beat the straw man to death. I feel we're making progress. Don't bother with the condescending 'we'. My comment was "Either way, just because a Jew says something about Israel, doesn't make it true either." Arguments and truth stand on their own merit. All this while you still quote Noam Chomsky and other Anti-Israel Jews and therefore expect it to be taken as gospel. Rather than feigning knowledge about a subject you know nothing about, here's a suggestion: START HERE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/12/2012 3:35:56 AM
Want children have children open/undecided about children (!) either you want one or you don't... if not sure then i guess you are weak! Smoke socially (liar!) Occupation: james Bond! ... Message me !!!!!! Pics Full of themselves am a masterchef list goes on. and on and on lol Forgot: Clearly overweight in the pic but the guys still goes in the gym 5 times a week has travelled everywhere want to travel the world but has never had a passport... want a rock ( call social services!) looking for a nice lady.. (means: anyone will do,I am desesperate ;-) Sorry, forgot about grammar and spelling... Despite the fact that I am French I still care about the above... And all the guys begging me to send them a message to confirm that i got theirs! ?????? Asking for a max size girl!!! (size 10-12-14 max please) but not caring about the height (ahhahah) silly bugger ;-) Aha.... Well apart from the fact that perhaps with exhaustive filters like that and that you wonder why you're still single, a lot of what you've written is ridiculous. People do smoke socially. I have no clue why you think that is lying? When you decline both people who want children (fine), then go further to decline people who 'aren't sure', surely you're paranoid. Some people, including myself, put that up because they are genuinely not sure, sometimes bordering on 'no', but are open to compromise if the relationship develops. I'm not sure what your problem is. Many men do not have his natural push to have children and therefore don't feel its a huge issue either way. Just because you have enough experience popping them out, doesn't mean everyone sees it through your lense. "has travelled everywhere" Yes, clearly that's a bad thing. Who the hell wants someone smart and worldly? "Asking for a max size girl!!! (size 10-12-14 max please) but not caring about the height (ahhahah) silly bugger " Why do both have to be connected? Clearly the bigger concern is weight for many guys. As your comment about 'overweight guys' goes. Did you add something about their height? "looking for a nice lady.. (means: anyone will do,I am desesperate ;-)" Yes, given the warm quality of the girls on this site (and in London), I suppose asking for someone nice must mean 'desperate' (where do you get this crap from?) "am a masterchef" Guys that can cook with a humorous description. The nerve! "Full of themselves" Right... And how do you square this with considering that the person is a desperate weakling from asking for a 'nice' girl? Maybe actually acting confident is not 'full of themselves', just simply, someone who perhaps is out of your league and intimidates you? "list goes on. and on and on" No doubt it does. Maybe that's apart of your problem? Welcome fanfan, to the long list of stupid females on this site, who seemingly live in a bubble about guys, and wonder why the quality of their choices are what keep them single. Happy fishing, I hope you drown. Petites bises

gurufabbes

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Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 5:10:15 PM
It's an oxymoron of the highest order, and truly laughable It's an oxymoron to people that still think Judaism is just a religion, yeah. You forgot the word "occupied" territories. The goal of the Arab armies was to completely wipe out the new Jewish state. According to them in 1948, and many even nowadays: ALL of Israel is occupied territory. Their country was being stolen. It wasn't just their country. This is the problem, you concentrate on the rights of the Arabs while delegitimizing the Jews. I see. So "might is right"..? Seemingly that's the way the Arabs saw it. This illustrates the attitude of the zionists perfectly. Israelis and jews aren't the "victims", not any more, you should stop playing it, it's truly pathetic. Like I said, the truth will always come out. The only side playing the victims, but using violence over and over again has been the Arab side, so don't bother. Israel is losing this argument, hence the UN's recognition of Palestine. Anything can pass at the UN General Assembly, here the majority is made up of Arab states clearly in an anti-Israel bloc, and other allies such as tin-pot dictatorships, theocracies and other corrupt 3rd world members of the Non-Aligned movement who think that they're sill waging a colonial struggle. In the words of Abba Eban: "If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions." A meaningless vote at the UN (the same one which equated 'Zionism with Racism' in the 1970s, then rescinded it later) means nothing. Truth is something intrinsic, it's not established by consensus. One of the reasons why the anti-Israel side is often so bitter and angry is the very fact of the weakness and mediocrity of their cause. Where essentially the argument has to come from a position of perceived victimhood. How can it be "biased", when it's written entirely by self-proclaimed "jews"..? (Which is all any of them are) How do you square this with your view that 'secular Jew' is an oxymoron? You can't. Either way, just because a Jew says something about Israel, doesn't make it true either.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

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Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 4:15:38 PM
Please don't try and cherry pick one example to make a counter-argument and then get even that wrong. Well don't do it then. If you remember your original comment, which suggested "collaboration" ('co' means both sides being involved) of the Zionists with the Nazis, it has ended up being cut down to, one group, the Irgun/Stern Gang, who if you remember history, were not mainstream. Furthermore the Nazis wanted nothing to do with them. Even more, shortly after the war, the Hagana sank one of their weapons ships, killing some of their members and disbanding the rest.SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT LEFT WITH? I'm sick of the stupid amalgamation and 'guilt by association' game. What you said clearly wasn't correct, so just admit it, rather than, like a spoilt child, concentrating on some tiny disputable inaccuracies in my answer. JMO: They were asked, they said no. It's their land. Why couldn't the "Jews" who wanted their own state, accept that.? But no, religious people insisted. What the hell are you talking about? The founders of Israel were not religious people, and the religious had no role in these decisions. In terms of who was in charge it was the Ottomans, and afterwards the British. Because Jews owned their parts of the land, the Arabs owned theirs. Both couldn't stand each other and that point and had already come to blows. The UN decided that would be the workable solution. The White Paper agreement in turn reneged on the Balfour Declaration. The British increasingly screwed over everyone, before giving up and handing it to the UN. The arabs were fully entitled to say no. Yes, they were, just as letting the natural 'law of the jungle' prevail. Their rejection wasn't simply a passive one, but one followed up on by 5 Arab armies invading the territory. They lost. It is only in this situation seemingly, where, a side chooses violence over peace, then gets its ass kicked, and still feels like things should be the same as before. The 'law of the jungle' applies to both sides. Lawrence of Arabia incidentally was pro-Zionist. Read the history. It's obvious who started this, and who are to blame. http://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html I think the maturity of your arguments need to progress beyond "Read he history", then posting some further biased source. I know the history, I just disagree with you and think that I'm right. A growing number of jews are disassociating themselves from Israel's shameful history. As an even greater number are joining the ranks of its supporters. Don't bother playing that game either.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 57 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 3:36:06 PM
It's a belief. there is no scientific basis to it. The truth will always come out. Jewish identity is not 'belief' anymore than any other national identity is 'belief'. It's a fallacy to compare 'Jewish' to 'Christian' or 'Muslim' in terms of identity. It aint it. -Sounds like magic to me. The politics and philosophy of identity are complicated and there have been many books written about them. The ultimate point, where I believe you will not disagree, is that Jews consider themselves as a Jewish people, and that this identity has been around for thousands of years. It was one of the reasons why the 'Jewish question' was a big debate in Europe throughout the 18th, 19th and 20th century. There were no negotiations, when those early Israelis bulldozed 136 (?) villages in 1948, and created some 700,000 refugees and 'displaced persons'. And in some cases, massacred entire villages. Damn right there wasn't. The Arabs and their 5 Arab armies were in no mood for negociation. It was war: Demonizing one side in war and simplifying the facts is always problematic. I disagree with what you're saying entirely. The only thing that comes close to 'massacring an entire village' is the what happened at Deir Yassin, and there it's a bit more complicated, and anyhow was done by the Irgun, a then opponent of the modern day Israeli Defense Forces. There are entire branches of academics, especially in Israel, which deal with the conflict: It's not as simple as saying that the Palestinians left voluntarily, or to say they were all driven out by force. Either way, rioting and Jewish communities being massacred by the Arabs throughout the 1920s and 30s show that it's incorrect to blame one side for the violence. now the Palestinians constitute less than 20% of the population, in their own country This is your problem: You're amalgamating. Are you referring to Arab Israelis living in Israel or Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza? The situations are different. Elsewhere, they make up much more than 20%. At the end of the day we end up with the same question: Why can Jews not have one tiny strip of land (even smaller back in 1948 under the UN plan), surrounding by 22 (23) other Arab states? Why couldn't the Arabs just accept that? This ultimate question should underline who the aggressors are, and I don't think for a second, that it's the Israelis.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 53 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 3:08:20 PM
why do hundreds of thousands of Israelis protest for a two state solution? Apart from saying "Well, if people protest about something, it must be right", I'll point to my comment that the Palestinians have a right to self-determination. It doesn't however that from the fact that such a state or national identity has never before existed and is in a sense a continuation of the claims of the Arab cause on the land. It's a myth that the Palestinians are an age-old people who have been trying to create their own state there for aeons. Had Israel not been established, the land would have been apart of Jordan, as it was between 1948 and 1967, without a peep from the modern day 'Palestinians'. Sometimes the truth hurts. Finbarr asked you a question regarding Zionists and Nazis. Apart from the usual buried bits like the Haavara Agreement, and those Zionists that helped fund Hitlers rise to power, perhaps you know of the collaboration between the Zionists and the Nazis concerning Palestine? I don't think wasting my time with close-minded racist bigots is worth it. But since that you brought it up: The 'collaboration' was an attempt by one arm of the Irgun to present a plan by which all Jews in Europe would be moved to Palestine, which would then become a fascist satellite. The Nazis never answered it, and the people involved lost their credibility and support because of it. In retrospect, perhaps that plan would have saved millions of Jews from extermination. Who knows. The Nazis were prime opponents of Zionism (you can see in mouthpieces such as 'Der Stuermer') and supported Arab movements against it. The pictures of Hitler with Jerusalem Grand Mufti will not just 'fade away'. I hate when people bring up half-truths.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 49 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 2:37:58 PM
Israel’s attempt to lobby the Western governments to vote “No” or in the very least abstain from voting if they can’t bring themselves to vote in its favour so that it can claim moral high ground by saying only despot led countries voted “Yes”. What did the result show? 138(yes) Vs 9(no, including some pacific island-nations)." After getting past that countries like Spain and France voted in favour of the resolution... Anything can pass at the UN General Assembly, here the majority is made up of Arab states clearly in an anti-Israel bloc, and other allies such as tin-pot dictatorships, theocracies and other corrupt 3rd world members of the Non-Aligned movement who think that they're sill waging a colonial struggle. In the words of Abba Eban: "If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions." However, whenever Palestinians try to pursue a diplomatic route they get blackmailed. Ever wondered why more often we hear about aid-cuts, sanctions and withholding of Tax (collected on behalf of the Palestinians) happens every time the Palestinians seek a peaceful route In essence, going to the UN was apart of the PA's blackmail against Israel, because it knew very well it would pass. Why is the PA having the UN General Assembly decide about a matter that needs to be resolved by negotiations? It is the Palestinian side, not the Israeli side that is refusing to return to the negociation table, and instead has tried to bring other means into it: Hamas, with its rocket attacks, and the PA by unilateral moves at the UN. If there is a solution, it can't be resolved by marginalizing Israel at the UN and avoiding talks. JMO: It's not a "race", it's a religion. That's why so much variation exists. It helps to know a bit about Judaism before 'deciding' what it is. It is neither entirely but has elements of religion, race, culture and national identity. It's complicated thing to define Judaism, but simplifying it to meet your opinion is not going to get you anywhere. A Jewish identity may have had its roots in a religion at one point (2000 or 2500+ years ago), but it is far beyond that point now. I don't believe in the bible, the tora, or the q'uoran, all three religions share a belief in the old testament. Primitive superstitious beliefs, written by people who knew no better. There is no magic. I didn't ask what you believed and none of my arguments rely on 'magic' or 'superstition'. Until 1948, there was no such country as Israel. While the modern state of Israel did not exist, a Jewish people did, and history shows that every single independent sovereign state on that very land has been Jewish throughout history. Israel has ignored the UN., that is indefensible, as is their position. Particularly as more and more people become aware of the history. Just as the Arab side has ignored the UN since its very beginning. A law is only good when both people hold by it. So for now, they have observer status. Next, full nationhood. That's up to their leadership and to their negociation with Israel. I'm indifferent towards it. As I said in an earlier post, we'd stand a far better chance of peace, without religious nutters stirring-up trouble. I agree, and have seen first hand how they make the conflict worse.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 46 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 2:18:55 PM
Forget your bias, Change starts at home. There are "black" jews, and there are blue-eyed, fair-haired ones, from northern Europe. "Jews" are the best example there is, of the folly of "racial" classifications. Not at all, they're the best examples of it. The "Black Jews" are the exception to what I described as their community, the Ethiopian community, are largely converts from local Ethiopian tribes a while ago. It's not enough to say, well there are some blond haired Jews and some black Jews, therefore there is no Jewish race. There very simply is, and the myriad of genetic evidence stands testament to it. I can't MAKE you see, I can only tell you that if you look it up, you'll find it. Anyway, that is for the racial component. As for the actual component of having a distinct cultural identity and considering themselves a nation for the entire time of the Diaspora, that is something that requires researching Judaism. I can't MAKE you do that either. Of course the Palestinians are pissed-off, they were asked, they said no, but the British and Americans, and French all pushed ahead with the project to create a "jewish" state, in their midst, against their wishes. There were no 'Palestinians' at that point, and the decision was largely made by an Arab block. It was more than just the British, Americans or the French. You can check the vote on the UN partition plan to see. It was a decision endorsed by the UN and would have brought peace. Given, that I assume you are a believer in the UN and that its resolutions should have some sort of validity, perhaps you should keep that in mind, rather than looking for every loophole possible to defend the indefensible, just because you have a soft spot for the Palestinian cause.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 44 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 1:48:44 PM
Yes, my 'editing' however to correct spacing and typos, as well as to get this bad 'quote' system to work is sort of irrelevant. No-one is and "always has been, a people", or a "race". Much less the "jews", who only "count" half of the genetic contribution." The Jewish people I speak of, in the same way as I speak of French and German or Polish people. Nevertheless, if you wish to speak 'race', genetic tests among the Jewish communities the world over show that Jews are more related to themselves then to their neighbours, this includes of course tests on the people's that they used to reside with. That there is a difference in Jews in terms of their DNA is clear, and it cannot be otherwise in a people where Jewish status is handed down via matrilineal descent, tribal distinctions such as with people are Cohens or Levis, go down through patrilineal descent. Equally tests among people that are Cohens show a common genetic ancestor, aeons ago. The facts are there, in both Judaism, Jewish culture and in studies done. Genetically, as Finbar points out, they share the same gene-pool as the Palestinians, though that has obviously been added to by whatever genes were accumulated during the alleged "diaspora"." Please don't bother with quoting Shlomo Sand. He's one opinion, and indeed one among many. People usually quote him because of his political views and political implications that his views imply.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 42 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 12:54:43 PM
Are you a caricature? good little goy that you are. Try not to choke on a bagel! I think this comment indicates which of both categories you belong to. Anti-Semetic? The usual lie peddled by Zionists morons. The Palestinians are a Semetic people! To add again to the constant discussion I have with caricatures, Anti-Semitism in every dictionary since the beginning of time means a hatred, dislike of Jewish people. A pseudo-intellectual sickness that unfortunately, you suffer from as well. People that disagree and criticize Israel are not all anti-Semites, but you sir, are. Now that I've done with you. Jo van: Yes, that's the version which most people still believe. To my shame, it's probably the version I believed, until I researched it in about 1990. That is however the history. It's one version of it, but the facts are there. It's war, war war and more war. Perhaps you think every religion should be "given" it's own country.>? Jordan for the Jehova's Witnesses, Mozambique for the Moonies..? Sweden for the Scientologists..? I don't think you know much about Jews or Judaism if you think that those comparisons are valid. Jews are, and have always been, a nation, a people with their own distinct identity. Not simply a religion. Israel was founded on a mistake. Eventually, history will record that. National determination is not a mistake. It's the right of every people in the world, including the Palestinians.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 39 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 12:29:39 PM
I'm not in the mood to replay the entire history of the Middle East. The Palestinians, the Arabs, and probably in response, the Israelis, are violent, aggressive people. If you wish to look upon the 'poor Palestinians' as the oppressed, who are only seekers of peace, then I suggest you look at their history. In essence, it's only in the last 20 years that the wider conflict of Israel vs. the Arabs, has been downsized to a mini-conflict of Israel vs. the 'oppressed Palestinians'. The Arabs and the Palestinians would like nothing better than for Israel to disappear(1948, 1967, 1973 to start with) , and have done their utmost to make that a reality. The very conflict even starts with a peace agreement rejected ONLY by the Arabs, and a subsequent invasion with 5 Arab armies. I see this cycle as repeated over and over again. Then, as soon as they lose every single one of the aggressive conflicts that they themselves start, shout 'oppression', with then, every far left-wing moron and anti-Semitic fanatic to be there to cheer them on. Perhaps anything will do for you. It won't for me. The PLO and Hamas are not the ANC, they are not Gandhi's INC and to even mention them in the same sentence cheapens their struggles.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 167 (view)

What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/11/2012 11:52:53 AM
These women who take a photo of themselves as close up to their face as possible , don't show any pics from the neck down AND don't want to admit their body type, they are more than likely hiding something - doesn't take a genius! Add 'undisclosed body type' to that and you have the perfect match of what you've described. The only thing missing then from the profile is 'gymophobia' or 'allergic to sweat' in the description.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 37 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 11:42:52 AM
Not much difference between Zionists and Nazis. What you've written is bullocks. Sorry. I suggest you read up on the history more, and not just from the most anti-Israel sources that you can find.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 165 (view)

What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/11/2012 11:36:53 AM
Out of your league..? Yeah, right. Re-read the comments. It helps when participating. Thank you for your concern, thankfully I do not believe that love comes with a use by date and if I am still single at 40 then I will still believe that it might be round the corner. It's not really concern, I just feel that when people shoot themselves in the foot, they should know about it.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 35 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 11:30:59 AM
And some pretty barbaric acts were committed, all by westerners. It seems you believe the spin. I'm not sure if you're deliberately misreading what I wrote, or genuinely have trouble following it: When Westerners do it, they should have responsibility for what they do. When other nations, 3rd world nations, use their wealth to purchase their weapons and machete or execute their neighbour, the responsibility should be on them. How will they be "rewarded"..? And by whom...? By Canada, US, Israel, Czech Republic... and most of all by the history books. I have no idea what this means. Is it an Alan Partridge quote..? Was that an attempt at wit? The original quote was "There's a difference between inventing something, then separately using it for some grotesque person." If you want an example: Let's then underline the point with the difference between Albert Einstein and many other pioneers in nuclear research, and the individuals that decided the best way to use this knowledge was to build a bomb with it. In the context of the Middle East, perhaps the only Palestinian invention (apart from of course their unprecedented re-invention of themselves from East Jordanians to 'Palestinians' in the last 40 years) has been the introduction of bomb-strapped madmen self-destructing themselves in name of Allah, killing as many innocent civilians with them as possible. I think the inventor of dynamite even, could not have foreseen this, even the inventors of the modern day bombs which they buy and use. I hope the UN eventually give Palestine a full National Status. This is a small, but significant first step. Yes, because we all know that the world needs another failed state.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 158 (view)

What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/11/2012 10:20:45 AM
I've read your comments and I'm convinced you are the epitome of what's wrong with the males on this site.... Maybe come up with your own insults, rather than copying mine. I have no doubt that some girls on here would like to someone to uncritically digest their flawed perspectives. I don't do that. My point is, with the hidden automatic rejection list, don't be surprised if you end up attracting the wrong type of guys, and throwing out the baby with the bath water. When you're still single at 40, don't imagine complaining that "I never met the right guy", is the actual reason.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 33 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/11/2012 10:13:11 AM
No, the bomb making technology came from the West... and they have the nerve to call the Arabs the terrorists. Aha. There's a difference between inventing something, then separately using it for some grotesque person. I'm sick of people blaming the West for why other people act like barbarians. Had it not been the bomb, then it would be the scimitar with which to behead people. If the shoe fits.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 61 (view)

Confused.......Did i overreact? Posted: 12/11/2012 5:36:34 AM
She sounds like a tease, she wants to go back to yours, she wants to sleep in the same bed, but you cannot touch her, get rid, physco.com Yeah, I agree. Dump the priss and look for someone else. "Go to bed together, but not touch or have sex" When did this sh*t start? I had never heard of such crap before coming to this country. Don't the girls here have Teddy Bears or fathers?

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 142 (view)

What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/11/2012 4:00:27 AM
Men who looks like they take longer to do their hair, then what I would. Those that don't have kids and wants them. And especially those photos that are clearly photoshopped. Probably more, but can't think of them right now!!! First of all, check the difference between plural and singular in verb conjugation. Yes, probably much much more. Given that you have children already, I'm sure excluding everyone is a good strategy to finding your right guy. I read your comments and profile and am convinced that you are the epitome of what's wrong with the females on this site.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 20 (view)

Second date at hers? Posted: 12/9/2012 5:08:25 PM
Nice, I suggest bringing some condoms, gloves and chloroform. (I'm kidding. Please don't ban me)

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 51 (view)

why does the conversations always turn sexual??? Posted: 12/9/2012 5:05:13 PM
1st get chatting away and as soon as a day has gone past they automatically take it to a sexual level in which case i try to laugh it off or just ignore Sorry to burst your bubble but most guys aren't really interested in talking about your plans for the Christmas holidays.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 29 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/9/2012 4:58:43 PM
I'm with the Palestines, not to be confused with the Philistines! The Phillistines were perhaps more civilized. They never used the suicide bomber to achieve their aims.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 28 (view)

Palestine wins UN vote to become a non-member observer State – UK Government abstained from voting Posted: 12/9/2012 4:56:22 PM
I think only people who have never set foot in that area would applaud the founding of another Arab failed state in the area. The Palestinians should perhaps deal with unifying their 2 states (Gaza or Hamazistan and the West Bank, i.e. Fatahland) rather than unilaterally trying to avoid the main issue: Their refusal to return to the negotiating table with Israel and actually pursuing peace. In my opinion, the Palestinians as well as the rest of the Arabs still cling to their dream of an Israel-free middle east. The countries that voted against this meaningless resolution should be proud and I hope they're rewarded for it.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 133 (view)

What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/9/2012 4:44:28 PM
As for me: Undisclosed body type. Yes, we know what you're hiding.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 132 (view)

What puts you off messaging someone? Posted: 12/9/2012 4:41:53 PM
But the main one is when they say "fed up with men sending me dirty messages or rude pics i'm not that sort of girl" But they have pics of them in underwear or bikinis or bending over to show their boobs off!!!!!!! Here Here. I think there are girls who are in denial about the kind of guys they want, and the kind of guys they attract.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 2 (view)

Sir Patrick Moore Dead. Posted: 12/9/2012 4:35:26 PM
A really shame.

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Msg: 31 (view)

Would you still be on POF if it wasn't for the Forums??? Posted: 12/9/2012 4:34:39 PM
I actually have recently discovered the forums on here, after being on this site both in the UK and back in Canada. So far I think it's a better way to actually discover people in their natural habitat and see whether they have any intellect and conversation. I suppose it's also a good random place to meet people here from the UK. Personally the even minute possibility of meeting peopel one speaks with here is enough to make participating in even just casual chat interesting. I'm sure people have noticed that one tends to have a different personality entirely depending on the milieu.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 49 (view)

Prank call led to suicide of Nurse at the Hospital treating the Duchess. Did Aussie DJs go too far? Posted: 12/9/2012 4:28:35 PM
hi everyone. I'm new to the site so I'm not sure whether posting the youtube link to the video is ok. (Type: kate prank call) on the site. Nevertheless after hearing it, I actually thought it was funny, and not done in too poor taste. I probably would just add this to the category of unintended, tragic consequences.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 1 (view)

PR please Posted: 10/18/2012 12:09:36 PM
Hi, I would like a thoughtful review of my profile from the perspective of attracting the attention of girls around my age and lower. I'm looking for feedback both in terms of the photos as well as the description.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 3 (view)

Hi, some constructive criticism welcom from female reviewers. Posted: 6/14/2012 5:34:38 PM
Here is a belated thank you for the profile review.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 1 (view)

Hi, some constructive criticism welcom from female reviewers. Posted: 5/21/2012 6:02:07 PM
Hi, I was hoping to get some feedback for my profile, particularly from the female POV. I´d appreciate it and would particularly like to also know what to add rather than just what to take away.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 1 (view)

profile review would be appreciated Posted: 3/31/2012 4:33:11 PM
Hi everyone, I'd like some feedback on my profile, concerning both the photos and description. Particularly some suggestions would be welcome of what to add rather than simply what to change and take way. Again, I appreciate it.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 5 (view)

some feedback for smilies Posted: 11/27/2011 5:17:52 PM
Any other thoughts beyond the giraffe hunting?

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 1 (view)

some feedback for smilies Posted: 11/27/2011 2:36:35 PM
I will pay in smilies for constructive feedback. I'm killing time on here, getting to know people in london (I recently moved here) and hoping to meet that special someone.. I used the site when I lived back in Canada so it was similar in terms of what to expect. I'm giving this site another try after a break and I would be happy for help with the fish. s -Fab

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 4 (view)

profile review please Posted: 9/21/2011 1:05:37 AM
Thanks to both of you. Not quite the tough criticism I was expecting, lol. I'm wondering then why my experience on this site has been so terrible.

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 1 (view)

profile review please Posted: 9/20/2011 1:46:51 PM
Hi, I was wondering if an insightful girl could give an assessment of my profile? I've been on here for a little while and am trying to create one that sticks out and turns the heads of the females visiting my profile and give them something memorable to make them answer when I write them, or better yet, have them write me. Competition is fierce on this website. Thanks

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 2 (view)

review by the experts Posted: 9/19/2011 4:17:17 PM
Why no answer? I was wondering if an insightful girl could give an assessment of my profile? I've been on here for a little while and am trying to create one that sticks out and turns the heads of the females visiting my profile and give them something memorable to make them answer when I write them, or better yet, have them write me. Competition is fierce on this website. Thanks

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 1 (view)

review by the experts Posted: 9/18/2011 5:12:39 PM
Hi, I was wondering if an insightful girl could give an assessment of my profile? I've been on here for a little while and am trying to create one that sticks out and turns the heads of the females visiting my profile and give them something memorable to make them answer when I write them, or better yet, have them write me. Competition is fierce on this website. Thanks

gurufabbes

Joined: 9/22/2010

Msg: 6 (view)

heya, please provide some feedback as I'm looking to improve Posted: 8/24/2011 1:08:45 PM
Thanks a lot everyone for the feedback. I'll make some changes based on it.

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