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 Author Thread: Okay so I RE-WROTE almost the whole thing! Check it out! Please?
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 27 (view)
 
Okay so I RE-WROTE almost the whole thing! Check it out! Please?
Posted: 6/15/2009 2:52:39 PM
The wording i did put in ALL CAPITALS WAS NEEDED to sound STRONG in them areas. I did not write the whole profile in capitals, obviously. I put a lot of the words I did write in capitals because I DO feel THAT PASSIONATE and THAT STRONGLY about the things I did say in those sentences. Kinda like now lol

People have a hard time with me because I come off as EXTREMELY INTENSE. Not just on the internet but in real life too (even though I am normally very reserved and I am often found rather "disengaged" until the right moment strikes).

I put the "updated" dates in there in case people who had viewed my profile before, might get a hint that I myself (and my profile .... who i am) has CHANGED. I think this is important because unless a person is open to change then they can't be seen as a healthy person. A person who is not willing and open minded to change can't be healthy. That's why I put it in there, not just because I re-wrote my profile but to indicate that I have grown personally since the last time I wrote the last one.

As far as my photos are concerned, I have already explained: I AM NOT ABLE TO GET NEW ONES YET. I HAVE NO OTHER WAY TO GET ANY.... ANY .... PHOTOS. Please ... no more requests for this until I can do what I can. For the foreseeable future, IT WON'T HAPPEN! Why? Okay sure it sounds like a "Tough!" response but the HARSH REALITY of my life is that I live on a VERY FIXED INCOME, and literally I am POOR AS DIRT okay? Nothing can be done about it any time soon. People need to just accept this and LOOK PAST my damn ugly photos ok? Thank you!!!!!

My medical issues ARE negative! I feel and am 10-years CONSCIOUS of how UGLY my medical issues make ME FEEL and how others PERCEIVE me also. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT beyond basic hygiene and weekly medical visits. Sorry but if you don't like me then PLEASE MOVE ON... I am tired of having to explain everything to everybody everytime I meet everyone new ..... sighs I do it anyway if people are NICE and POLITE but when people are not then I tell 'em WHERE TO GO!

The extended "intro" paragraphs in the first date box, have to do with my past and present ignorance (honestly) of what dating IS. I really don't even know how to start talking to a woman nor how to "break the ice". Like I said, I HAVE NEVER DATED (officially), so I REALLY DO NOT know what I am doing and that is why I put all of that in there to LEAD UP TO what I would guess would be a way to START OUT. THIS IS ALL I KNOW OKAY? Please don't prosecute me too hard as I really have no freaking clue how else to explain how i am when I say I have never dated. So that is why that text is in there. BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL I AM DOING. sighs

Yeah I am perturbed in this post because I have had to re-iterate all of this so many times before that people just do not remember what I said (mostly because people are too busy and take NO CARE to remember me!!) NOT MY FAULT.

BTW saying that I am a "good looking guy" but that my "pictures do not show it" ???? Kinda contradicts your statement, crosses out the whole intent and meaning ... you were better off not saying anything at all :-( Thanks a LOT!!

I am very disturbed today because people do not even bother to take the time to GET TO KNOW ME before criticizing what I do and why I do it. Shouldn't that also be a part of this "profile review" process? 1 of you was very evil in their comments (a man no less), and the woman whom I am replying to, although you may mean well, I have explained almost all of this before. And I wish you had read it before writing your reply. THAT is why I am disturbed.
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Okay so I RE-WROTE almost the whole thing! Check it out! Please?
Posted: 6/8/2009 3:08:50 AM
Ok so anyway, WITH THE HELP of other people ... another website, really... I totally re-wrote my whole profile, according to a Question / Answer scenario. GONE are all my poetic stylings ... but so are the rantings and ravings too (well for the most part).

Ok so I totally re-wrote the first part of my profile. (Second part I did not change much)

As for my photos, well sadly I cannot do anything about them yet. My own digital camera is NOT the kind that you can just take to a Pharmacy or Wal-mart to offload the pics to a CD or prints, because it does not use SD-cards. It is a properietary download protocol, and I am not using Windows anymore (I am a Linux geek, so right now I cannot get my camera to interface with Linux to download the new pics I had already taken, or to make room for more new ones to take. And I am not going to go back to Windows right-away, just for new pics.)

Sorry but I actually think my pics are sufficient as they are, FOR NOW. I understand my problem with "approachability" but I do not feel that my pictures are lacking "niceness" as they are not threatening in any way (seriously, what am I gonna do, come jump out of your screen and attack you?!? You may think so but I call that a mental issue). So, how i look, well, that is just how I am most of the time, intense and serious. I almost never smile much (and no it is not because I am unhappy, it is because I don't like being that way ... all smiley and bogus crap).

Anyone who is still left reading this thread, please RE-REVIEW my profile and tell me how you think my NEW profile looks / reads? Is my new profile...

A. IMPROVED? :-)
or...
B. Worse? :-(

And how?

Thanks!


--Ryan
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Please review my profile? What am I doing wrong?
Posted: 6/8/2009 2:58:34 AM
Wow, "Easy2Like" (somehow I find it hard to believe that you are "easy to like") - can you be anymore of a D!C|<}{3/\D to me eh??? holy crap ...

That just was NOT very cool...
I didn't ask for PERSONAL CRITICISM, only for criticism of my PROFILE, what I wrote, how to refine it. Not for judgments on my character. YOU don't know me, so DON'T ATTACK ME.

What a #$@*^?&!


--- "Easy2Like" said to me ---
YOU LOOK LIKE CHARLES MANSON -- FOR GOD'S SAKE GET A HAIRCUT AND SHAVE -- STOP LOOKING LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE A SWASTIKA ON YOUR FOREHEAD. I KNOW VINCE BUGLIOSI AND EVEN HE WOULD AGREE --- HE SENT CHARLIE TO PRISON.

GROW UP --THAT WILL BE A GREAT BEGINNING.

AND STOP SITTING AROUND LISTENING TO THE BEATLES' WHITE ALBUM BACKWARDS.

there -- I sed what should have been sed a long time ago to this guy.

---

 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Please review my profile? What am I doing wrong?
Posted: 6/5/2009 12:48:56 AM
@LucidDreaming:

Thank you!
and no i will not "bite your head off" ... why does it seem that so many people get that rabid impression of me for?
do I really seem like i am about to stomp through the room (through your computer no less?! WTF?! lolll) and just rip off your head, hand it to you, and then devour you, bone by bone, like a bloody Rancor in Star Wars? lol

hahahahahaha!

Thanks for your kind input however. Yes I have newer pics but as I earlier stated, getting them off my camera (and then taking new ones) is a bit of a problem right now. And no I don't know anyone with another camera.

You had a good point about how we take pictures of ourselves, and YES, MY PICTURES definitely show how I normally am!! When am I most content? Mostly when not around idiots... haha ... which isn't often enough, hence why I tend to live most of my life in solitude ... quiet and alone. But there are way too many drawbacks to this, and I do not want to live my life under a bushel anymore! I want my light to shine! I have way too much to offer and so much is going un-appreciated and I want to appreciate and love and laugh with other people!! So, I have been trying to get out more often and do just that but unfortunately that only ever seems to include guy friends and no new females to meet! Sad huh?

As for expressing how i truly am, well. I might just be doing that "too much" and in spades, so to speak! I think people are possibly intimidated to me (there we go with the whole "approachability" factor again). I prefer being INTENSE and being TAKEN as a SERIOUS PERSON, someone who literally "means business" (yet I am not AT ALL a "business-person" - I do NOT have the mind of a businessman)... and I guess that's just not "approachability-friendly"?
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Now your rant.
Posted: 6/5/2009 12:41:59 AM
@LilyVee (part 2):

thank you for giving me that new outlook on my profile "judgment" section. I never really thought that it would "ward" people away from me. I spend so much of my time pursuing truth (it is literally what most of my life is about, as I USED to be a PREACHER (yes the Bible / Christian variety), AND currently am a "truth seeker" AND ALSO, a political activist in a rather radical sense lol) so much so that maybe I really did not think it would push people away from finding me a "relaxed" or comfortable person to approach (as I wrote in my last post, the whole "approachability" concept seems so ALIEN to me ... so i definitely needed to hear that!!!!!)

About why I wrote the date of my last profile revision:
Because it seems people either looked at my profile once before, and may be turned off by it (hence why I revise it from time to time) and I am trying to subtly let them know that my profile has probably changed since last time I wrote it and that perhaps my thinking (and my inner person) has ALSO CHANGED (and that I have thus grown, I hope) since I last revised it. I did it because I wanted people to see my life as progressing forward, not sticking back to the same stagnant "old me" all the time. I put that in there to show them I "keep with the times" of myself... something like that :-)

And Aye, lassie... Lo! you were right about how I should prefer quality of letter responses, over quantity of them! I do want quantity so I can somewhat "pick from the litter" but it seems Life (or the people on this site) have yet to afford me that lovely luxury where I can sift from my suitors and find the best mate. So far I am still attempting to pick from the "highest growing fruit" of the tree because all the lower-hanging fruit is always getting taken by (I guess) much more worthy men than I. Yet, yes, I still keep trying.

I guess my life experiences with being an activist of sorts is why I keep forgetting that on a personal level as close as "wanting someone special" should definitely NOT mean that I am trying to appeal to the masses. You are right again. I don't want "just anyone" but (at least in a friends FIRST sort of way).... I want that someone that nobody else wants, or at least, the person that is "NOT just anyone", the person who is reserved for me. Or so I hope?

And yes I have preferences but I think most people are going to start laughing at me and making fun just because I prefer the type of women that I do. Don't most guys prefer that 1 latent or overt MODERN quality in women? I do know guys that do not like women who like other women (kinda scarce quality in men if you ask me but whatever lol)

But yes (back to why you posted about preferences), I love conversations and I never get to have enough of them so I feel really DEPRIVED. I really just want people to talk with and I HOPE (I hope with all my might and heart!!!) to hang out with in real life not talk on the internet! I am SO TIRED of talking on the internet or only by phone! I want to start being in the same room with someone and BE THERE! *sighs*

i am so alone.... nobody even knows the trouble I've seen...
(yes it's cliche and from a song, but please don't moderate this for self pity. I kept it short).
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Please review my profile? What am I doing wrong?
Posted: 6/5/2009 12:25:45 AM
@LilyVee:

Actually I put lesbians in my interest because I am *normally* not interested in straight women (they usually tend to bore me). While I am a man (yes I was born male lol) and not what most of these women are looking for, I am still MOSTLY only attracted to feminine bisexual or lesbian women (people who were born female, as I don't like people who are THAT confused. And yes, I know how typical or corny or flakey that sounds but that is what I am attracted to, I can't help it i have the body parts of a man, and no i am not confused about my gender. I am all about being a man, but yeah, I am just attracted to that particular group or genre of women, ie: women who also love other women. I have been this way since I was extremely young, and it is not something that will ever end anytime soon. It is my soul. So, yeah, extremely much so!!! ;-)

Sorry if I misled you or any other men or women as I never intended on doing so.

And yes thank you for your warm comments as well (about finding me interesting - it doesn't seem that too many people here do? I don't understand why, since I am interested in such a wide variety of topics!)

I also tried to list as many interests as the website would allow me to. So I filled it out to maximum entries because I have a LOT to talk about and so many people on here have SUCH VERY LITTLE to talk about! I want REAL LONG DEEP CONVERSATIONS about EVERYTHING! I don't expect such things right away, of course, but yes I want people to know that I am worth talking to!!!!

About my pictures: They were taken in 2006 I think. I can't get my current camera to interface with Linux yet (I don't use Windows or it would be a snap!). That is the main problem with having new pics taken or I would do just that! I recently shaved off the whole beard and now I have just the mustache. I DO have new pics that were taken before I shaved (as of last September - why does it always seem that whenever I take new pics it always happens in September? This is a weird repetitive trend lol)

I never really understand the concept of "approachability". Thank you for bringing that up. I have lived most of my life in isolation, VERY VERY sheltered, loner to the core. Never had many friends, and trying hard to REVERSE COURSE before I end up dying alone :-( I think the main reason why I prefer my pictures to look the OPPOSITE of "approachable" is because in some sense I WANT to be scary, to show them (any person really) that I AM AN INTENSE PERSON inside, that I am not just your average "run of the mill, joe schmoe" who can be found anywhere! That I am a "diamond in the rough", more of a person on the inside than a "looker on the outside" ... I try to convey that my looks are only a gateway to ME and not the total sum of who and what I am. So that's why I look the way I do, plus I do not "feel myself" with short hair. I wear my hair long because without it, I feel ... sick? Like there is something just not right with me. So yeah that is my own self-image thing. I feel great and confident when I look the way I think I should be. I definitely do comb my hair LOL I am not a total scuz... haha It's just I prefer the "wind in my hair" sort of look (as i love women to have that same "bed sex hair" look... all tousled and crazy wild ... maybe it's just me? :-)

LOL

PS: I HATE Jack Black. I know people say I look like him (I also get the Jesus and Charles Manson comparisons too, oddly enough LOL) but yeah I literally cannot stand Jack Black (his personality nor his acting) LOL
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Please review my profile? What am I doing wrong?
Posted: 6/5/2009 12:12:53 AM
@nathan.618:

That is amazing feedback! I don't know why I didn't think of that but "lightening-up" is not something I am normally good at. I take life extremely seriously and yet at other times I am all jokes and not serious at all. I guess I tend towards extremes. I don't really know any other way to be? Actually most of my life is ALREADY spent in daily quiet solitude. I meditate probably way too much, and am trying to get out more and be more social / sociable.

And your psychological understanding is something I guess I lack. I do understand what you said, but I guess I never thought of those reasons why I do what I do. Good points!

Thank you so much! For thinking of things that I really should have, but obviously did not. My meditating must not be so productive after all (or the wrong subject matter at least lol)

I am definitely going to take all of what you said into serious consideration, and hell i might even (later, at some point) re-write my whole profile with it in mind!!!! :-)
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Please review my profile? What am I doing wrong?
Posted: 6/4/2009 10:44:32 PM
Please review my profile? What am I doing wrong?

I am almost at my wit's end. I don't seem to be getting too many positive responses to my profile.
What do people here think that I may have done wrong in writing it?

Either when I write a person (women), the first time, or if i haven't and they just happen upon my profile ... it seems that too many women either PASS (do not want to?) write me (that's all cool ... to each their own), OR (most importantly), when I DO write them, they immediately either DELETE my email without even reading it (probably because they checked my profile first), OR if they DO write me, the most common response I get is "Sorry, you're just not my type" - WHEN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW EACH OTHER - how can they know if I am NOT their type or not??? Based on only 1 tiny webpage which barely even touches the tip of the iceberg about what ALL I am about?!?!?

If I seem angry or hurt on my profile page, it is for very good reason. ALL I EVER GET is hurt by women, even when I am trying to be the most loving person I can. Why do I always get hurt? It can't be what I write, can it?

I am this close || to becoming a total monk and writing off ALL WOMEN for good :-(
And NO I do not wish to do that, hence why I am still here.

Please review my profile. I cannot help how I feel. So I try to make better decisions so I won't have to feel such crap anymore. I don't know if my profile link is clickable here in this post so just search my user name if you want to review mine: "ProphetPX".

Thanks to all, in advance.


--Ryan
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 190 (view)
 
Instant Turn~Ons! What turns your head?
Posted: 6/10/2008 11:16:00 AM
(This would be my TOP questin or item of criteria, if not considering whether or not i am seeing or meeting somoene just sorta "off the street" so to speak. But ...

0. Is she bi-sexual? i know this might sound very shallow but i tend to find most straight-only women to be VERY BORING. I myself am very straight and never will want or need to go any other direction for myself, but I want and need a woman that wants to have the same kind of fun that I want, at least for a long long while ... This is my #1 turn on and usually you can NEVER TELL (unless yer speshul lol) if a woman is this way or not unless she tells you or you find out somehow by accident... so normally I do not look for this in real life, I only hope very much to find it... Straight women will find it to be very hard to keep my attention for very long .... I hate to say it. I have been this way since I was 13, where I prefer bisexual women and i doubt i will ever change this.)

My answers what turn me on the most (as per when i first meet or see a woman, anywhere)

1. Does she have long brunette hair? If she does, I love when they wear their hair super long (and i do mean, SUPER SUPER long, down to their ass preferably :-) Women with shaved heads or short hair do not usually ever get desired or even a 2nd look from me ... I hate to say it but short hair went out with the 20s ladies ... and the "Q-tip hair-do" look only tends to look well on those over 50 ... sorry, I tend to hate short hair on a woman)

2. Does she have big beautiful shiny eyes? I love the "doe in the headlights" look of innocence. I am not part japanese but for some reason the "anime" style of innocencs when a woman has very large open wide eyes, that is very attractive to me. I LOVE THAT! And also: BEDROOM EYES / or "that look" (if she knows how to "work it" with her eyes like that) = for bonus points!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmm Cf: Adriana Lima!

3. Does she have very strong legs leading up to a very firm "junk-n-the-trunk badonka-donk type ghetto booty" ass? (preferably over which her very long brunette hair would dangle or hang) mmmmmmmmm definitely love that! It doesn't even have to be firm just nicely shaped and i am happy! Firm asses are a definite bonus though! If she can not only walk, not only "strut" but also manage to "run" in some manner or height of "high heels" then she is simply incredible in this regard ... believe it or not, women wearing high heels are notably more sensitive to sexual pleasure because of their much tighter muscles inside, though this is not why i look for this quality, it is definitely an added benefit! lol :-D

4. Her voice and her smile ... it can totally unnerve me and ALMOST bring me to my knees if she "has it" just right... just about melting me like warm gooey honey butter on soft banana bread right from the oven mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm THAT is the KEY to bringing out the EXTREME SENSUALITY locked up within me and it really gets me in the mood ... a soft whisper, a whimper, a delightful expression of excitement mmmm

4A. CHARM, intelligence, and to some extent, wit and humor, make this all the worse for me ... if a woman has a beautiful smile, a warm loving tender voice, and yet, knows how to use them with the sophistication in-bourne of a woman who has learned much in life (intelligence), has charisma (charm), and to some extent (I don't mandate this because I tend to be the one who is the "class clown" when charming a woman myself so I pretty much do alot of the "merry making" myself) ... is if she also knows how to make me laugh and enchant my company just by her being herself ... then she is wonderful !!

5. I don't (well not usually) like flat-chested women so any woman with a B-cup or greater. (B and C are fine but I prefer a D or so ... for bonus points lol).

5A. And for my being a man, I am not one of them guys who cares whether someone is real or fake-chested or not. I don't care, probably because every woman that i have been with has had her own real "original equipment" breasts. But everytime I have seen women who had fake breasts (implants) i am not "turned off" at all but only more "turned on" - in short, the "plastic factor" of women does not turn me off. I actually like it. But I have no preference in that area 1 way or another.

6. Most women that I have met really do have their act together - it's us guys who do not always have it together. When a woman takes good care of herself, acts sensibly, doesn't do stupid stuff, is not a liar (that is a big issue for me), is LOYAL, and is willing to be open-minded to build intimacy (in order to turn me on further ... down that road ...) then THAT is also what gets (and keeps!) my motor running!!! If she can keep her own house clean and yet her car is or feels or looks nasty, well, that does not help at all. But if she has it all together ... and has at least 1/2 or most of my above criteria above, then she is a keeper.

I could totally go on and on and on and on and on ...
sighs ...

great ... now i am horny. LOL!!

I think I just turned myself on by imagining what i like and trust me i had NO visual cues whatsoever ... this is all from inside my mind and i am not even looking at anything! well, except the webpage where I am typing this LOL

 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 159 (view)
 
What does my children come first mean to you?
Posted: 6/7/2008 1:12:35 PM


I have a feeling I'm going to get flamed on this one... I am one of the few who do NOT believe children should come first. True, children are a part of your life from the moment of conception, however, once they grow and leave the nest, if you've neglected your s/o, then they too will eventually end up leaving as well.

Children learn from example. If the parents focus on them All the time, and put their spouses second or later, then the children learn to do that, and often have poor relationships, and don't respect their mates, when they become adults. We all understand that things come up; sickness, activities, emergencies, and such, but thats where both partners should be supportive equally.

I prefer to find a mate who puts their s/o first, and partners evenly with caring for the kids.




I SO TOTALLY AGREE with you on this subject, CowTrucker lady!!! :-)
This issue has always been one that has BOTHERED ME CONTINUALLY especially with all the profiles on here of single mothers who ALWAYS SAY THAT SAME THING!

and while i would never put myself before a woman's / mother's children, she better never necessarily put me "last" neither! Any woman who puts her own children before her life mate is only going to LOSE that life mate! Sorry this is what i believe.

Sure when you are single putting your kids first is always good - it is never good to be a "selfish mother" who treats their kids like crap.

But when you are with someone in a loving relationship that is comittted, THEN: NO SORRY .... Kids SHOULD NEVER EVER come first.

I have even heard Dr. James Dobson (from the Christian ministry "Focus on the Family") HIMSELF say that putting children first is WRONG - Put your life mate FIRST!! And THEREFORE, all the love generated in that loving relationship WILL ALWAYS emanate outward towards more love and care for the children ... it will THEREBY generate more love for the children in due process!!

ALWAYS PUT YOUR LIFEMATE FIRST.
But sure if you are single and not with anyone then by all means of course put your kids first ...

saying "I always put my kids first" THAT IS JUST NOT a valid position when you are WITH SOMEONE!! YOU WILL LOSE THEM !!
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Dr. Ron Paul's The Revolution: A Manifesto - #1 on New York Times Bestseller List
Posted: 5/20/2008 10:18:28 PM
ARRRRRRRRRRRR, mateys!!! lol I did find me some more Ron Paul loot on de P2P!! lol

http://www.torrentreactor.net/search/the-revolution-a-manifesto-ron-paul

If you don't know how to download via bit torrent then you also probably do not know how to do it safely (without getting caught or in legal trouble). Do not try this at home unless you know what you are doing before you get into it :-)

http://phoenixlabs.org/

http://www.utorrent.com/

AVAST! ye landlubbars and walk zeee planks wit de likes of him!
LOL
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Dr. Ron Paul's The Revolution: A Manifesto - #1 on New York Times Bestseller List
Posted: 5/20/2008 10:01:06 PM
I really need to get that book ... if i could only afford it.
sighs

Maybe I will get lucky and it might pop up on 1 of the "bit torrent" P2P download portal websites and I can just get it sorta-free as an E-book ...

and I did donate money to his presidential campaign so i am not afraid of paying him for the book ... I just can't afford such nice luxuries right now, unfortunately...

oooooh yeah buddy I JUST NOW found the book in electronic "sorta-free" (meaning: not legit, you could get in trouble for downloading it this way!!) E-book downloadable form on the internet ... via bit torrent! WOOT!!

http://www.google.com/search?q=ron+paul+reveolution+manifesto+filetype%3Atorrent&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 106 (view)
 
Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:45:09 PM


Posted By: pokerman40.2 on 10/21/2006 642 PM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste
Message: ^^^I'm assuming you meant me, but perhaps not. Until you mentioned that, I didn't see it in my user name. It refers to the card game. Maybe I should put a space between the "r" and the "m." Or perhaps the ladies who respond don't read it that way either. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out.


no, no, man! KStufff was talking about that "wanttolicku69 person", he just did not DIRECT his reply by naming who he was talking to. ugggh

so no it was NOT YOU... you have had nothing but very nice and thoughtful replies on here! take it easy man ...

 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 105 (view)
 
Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:39:53 PM
Quoting "greyymatter":


Posted By: greyymatter on 10/21/2006 541 PM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste


... --snip--


The general message on this thread is that if you son't cut and paste, you write more genuine letters and hence, get better or more responses.

But like I said in an earlier post, for some guys, they are driven to cut an paste because the genuine letters don't get read anyway, and after awhile of trying different writing styles, etc with no sucess, they are tempted to "play the numbers."


...

Even though I OFTEN use a general copy/paste framework for "1st-time-ONLY emails" that I later on customize before sending, it is never all the time. MUCH of the time I still do compose original unique letters that truly do more honor to someone whom I feel or think deem me a real chance of communication. I also (usually) LOVE partaking in the conversations that later ensue, as long as they love them as much as I do, to keep it going ... if possible :-P
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 104 (view)
 
Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:36:13 PM

Posted By: sandtownlady on 11/18/2006 309 PM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste
Message: The "copy and paste" thing just may the guys' way of using the "more bait, the better" approach. Maybe, if he gets a bite, then he gets creative?

But, why is it that regardless of the subject of the thread, the posts become a bashfest between the sexes?


sandtownlady, your 1st sentence would actually be a fair view on why men do it (certainly that is 1 reason why I myself do it - again, only my 1st contact emails TEND to be (not always) a copy/paste job, because it's been tiring in the past ... )

but I read a response back on page 3, just a bit ago by "Chris_KC" who pretty much wrote a message that I think is very fitting in answer to what you said:


Quoting "Chris_KC" here:


Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 5:06:14 PM
This thread and the many similar ones that came before it are perfect examples of polarizing generalizations that do nothing to further the real purpose of this site; that is to help men and women connect.

Bigfish needs to install a filter to auto delete every new thread that starts like:

Why do men .....
Why do women ...
How come men .....
How come women ....

...on and on...

The existence of these threads seems to be at cross purpose with the reason we are all here. The purpose of such threads seem to be the airing of rants and frustrations, rather than real discussions of dating issues.

So that I'm not totally off-topic, people who resort to canned contact letters and canned responses are simply showing their general lack of creativity. The recipients of this "date-spam" should delete the rubbish the same way they do spam for viagra, work at home, ink-jet refills, or any of the 1000 other pieces of crap that clutter our regular inboxes each day.

I dont "play the numbers," and as a result, the very few first-contact emails I do send always seem to get responses.


and I think he makes a good point. I have ALOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT of issues with (and AGAINST) women IN GENERAL ... And I am TOTALLY STRAIGHT (just so you know LOL) And I ACTUALLY DO LOVE WOMEN .... despite the incredible amount of frustration I get from them LOL

So, I do realize the truth of what he said. BUT!! I also believe that MEN and WOMEN ALSO need to hear each other's side of the picture when we DO "rant and rave" OUT LOUD so that we can SEE EACH OTHER'S SIDE and try to "step into someone else's shoes" and I believe that it also fosters a better opportunity to LEARN FROM EACH OTHER about not just the hardships we all encounter but also to create thinking amongst ourselves where we can try to improve the situations that cause us hardship.
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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:21:30 PM


Posted By: wanttolicku69 on 10/21/2006 430 PM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste
Message: 100 % correct so many of you ladie's just delete our messages it gets tiring so thats why try repyling to your email sometime!


oh my god ... dude!! how can YOU even expect any respectable woman to reply to you AT ALL? I mean, seriously, look at your USER NAME and PROFILE ?!?!?




wanttolicku69: looking for a neglected milf !!!


"Want To Lick U 69: looking for a neglected MILF" ?!? MILF being "Mother I'd Like To F.U.C.K.") ... uh ... yeah ... ok.... hahahahahaha!!

SERIOUSLY !!! dude I am sorry but I think that the only EMAILS you are likely to get are the SPAM BOTS from XXX porn sites wanting you to go watch their naked asses on webcams ... geezzzz LOL
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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:11:33 PM
This post is ONLY directed towards Pamela1's comments and not to anyone else.
I don't know her, but I have to say this ... because this is a good example why some people might copy and paste when writing an email to a person (at least on the first try).



Posted By: Pamela1 on 10/21/2006 2:19 PM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste
Message: I have had guys send me the same message with the same cut and paste to me TWICE! lol It goes to the tune of: I saw your profile and you are the most beautiful woman on this site yada yada and I crack up because it is word for word the previous cut and paste they sent you a month ago and they FORGOT they sent it to you. I guess there is junk mail and junk email! lol


hmmmm well in your case, not to be insulting, but you did not write hardly much of ANYTHING in your profile. I think I counted all of 4 sentences in your entire profile ?!?!
Did you change your profile recently, since the last time you replied here?

because, it is extremely minimal! and here it is:



I am a 42 year old woman who is very attractive, honest,easy going and I have a great sense of humor. I am interested in talking to someone that is also honest and likes to have fun and enjoy life. If this sounds interesting, drop me a line!

First Date
I enjoy on a first date a nice dinner so we can chat and get to know each other and go from there.


now REALLY!! how could THAT "sound interesting" ?!?!?
Can you "honest"-ly actually EXPECT??? ANYTHING... OTHER than spam (or what appears to be spam?) from those who write you, when you BARELY write anything about yourself? EVERYONE LIKES TO HAVE FUN! duh! and of course you LOOK attractive, but there is hardly anything about your MIND, YOUR HEART, or YOUR PERSONALITY ... or anything ELSE SUBSTANTIAL (yet still fit for public eyes/reading) about YOUR LIFE ... in that profile! I REALLY hope that you write more about yourself to those whom you contact or to those whom contact you ... because to someone trying to write you, it would probably seem necessary to use what would seem like a "form letter" (a copy and paste job) just to write you because they don't have MUCH TO GO ON in the first place ?!?!?!

GEEZ !!! lol

I have seen TONS of profiles by women on this site that have EVEN LESS THAN THAT in them (some had no words at all, just a silly icon) and while I have still written them in my usual OR approach or a unique email, I cannot even understand why they act like this ... complaining about spam or too many emails that sound the same, when they haven't even put forth much in the way of effort towards their OWN profile themselves... :-(

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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:03:12 PM

Hmmm...maybe I should compile a database of first contact responses, and automate sending them out based on keywords found in profiles scraped from an automated trolling of the forums. I could write a program that determines the relative good looks of a picture, and send a message on a sliding scale basis of the calculated result. Then I could just sit back and let the babes roll in, all without lifting a finger (if you don't count the ten years spent writing the software) -muahaha-.


ROFLMAO!!! hahahahahahaha!!! Why didn't I think of that?!?!? dang, and SO MUCH TIME!!!! ALLLLLLLLL of this time ... that I have actually spent investing in writing REAL ORIGINALLY-composed, UNIQUE emails (after the first contact conversation has began, anyways ...) to women trying to AT LEAST gain new friends!!!

hahahahahahaha!!!!

If only I knew more about Artificial Intelligence and if only I were a REAL, learned programmer (I have only begun to learn PERL programming after much usage of BASIC in my teens and 20s)... I DO joke, yes, but that was a very interesting and funny response! Now he's made me think .... (insert a very evil "Muuu-hahahahahaha!!" of my own, here LOLLLL)
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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 12:53:52 PM

Posted By: EastSideEddie on 10/21/2006 1113 AM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste
Message: If I know I will be emailing several people on my friends list just to touch base after not writing for a while I will cut and paste the framework of a message so I don't have to type it 10 times, but each will then get personalized from there.


That is what I do, too. I use a general framework that tells a little about me and what I am looking for and then I personalize it just a little bit to show that I DID actually look at them fairly well (hehehe) and that I DID read their ENTIRE profile!


That isn't really what you are talking about though and I understand what you men. I get those first emails mainly from women who place some importance on seeing how many fave lists they get on.


wow! There are women that actually DO that? that is SO sickening!!!
dang!!! I have never heard of that before but now that disgusts me :-(

I may have a big favorites list but I have only written to less than 35% of them so far! The other 65% are women I have also found attractive and interesting but whom I have not been sure what to write to them yet ... SOME people DEFINITELY DO deserve enough of my own "exerted life-force" to be approached in a warm or very generous and thoughtful, if not witty ... manner! :-) So I wait in some cases before I can collect all my thoughts and feelings together about something before I contact someone in my (rather extensive) favorites list.



There are two who live near each other and are apparently in a contest because they are both on over 700 faves and growing every day. Both extremely attractive, both with photos that enhance and accentuate their beauty without being slutty.


hmmmm if they're hot enough, then I wish I was the mailman or milkman on THAT block LOL Seriously however, I wonder what in the heck gets into some women's minds!!!! And if that is how they ACTUALLY BEHAVE (based on how they think, on their inside) then that is VERY MUCH NOT attractive to me AT ALL ... when a woman has behave that way. UGGH! YUCK! I'll PASS!!



How do I know it was nothing to take seriously?
If this woman has her pick of over 700 faves, why does she write to some fat ugly guy who is more than 20 years older than her?
Yep. Many grains of salt here.


700 !??!? holy shikeys, I don't think I have even 50 on my favorites list?!? I think I would get totally lost with 700?!? I think that is just a wee bit INSANE! I mean, are they THAT SLUTTY that they are interetested in THAT MANY MEN? But I have to digress, and yet ADMIT that I am no better than they. I am probably WORSE, actually! LOL So, I can kinda relate to it, being that I OFTEN feel like: "ahhh! SO MANY beautiful women in the world and so little time" (and the EXTREMELY SAD FACT that EACH of those women ONLY wants their 1 "man" to only be with, and to ONLY WANT: them - ugggh!! I might seem odd or wrong to many people for saying this, but MY OWN realization is just the opposite of alot of people: in this day and age, monogamy (especially concerning men) is one of the BIGGEST relationship killers :-( But that is a lamentation for another future post...)



One woman from Ontario last year sent me a PRICE LIST!!!! (She's long gone now.)


whoah dude, a "price list"?!? what was the meaning of that??? why would any woman (or any gender/PERSON for that matter) send you a "PRICE LIST" ? For what?
I don't understand ???
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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 12:33:16 PM
To "greyymatter": man you are so intelligent ... your replies should be read by women everywhere!!!


The thing is, many don't seem to understand why any reasonable man would be driven to do it. That's what I'm trying to relate - sometimes the tendancy to cut and paste comes from realizing how slim a chance it is that contact will ever be made, so the temptation is to send out more rather than contemplating waiting months or years for a response.

haha - The mentality can get to be like sending signals into space - those aliens might not even be there to hear it, so let's just shoot the signals everywhere and hope for a message back for evidence of life first. (okay, now THAT's an exaggeration, but I'm sure a few can relate lmao!)



On this same note, has anyone ever seen the movie "Contact"? I actually had a sorta-kinda type of date with a VERY, VERY WONDERFUL woman (just a new friend) that I met on THIS VERY website, only a few weeks ago ... where she came over and we watched this movie together :-) (I mention this because she HAD the bravery AND guts AND spontaneity to actually meet me after only our 1st conversation ... but she has such an incredible personality and "air" about her! She is VERY unique and I am SOOOOO glad to have made her my new friend!)

Anyways, that movie is one of my TOP FAVORITE movies of all time, originally written by Carl Sagan himself, about SETI and receiving "signals from outer space" etc etc ...

But, "greyymatter", that was the PERFECT analogy! And THAT IS what it is like, too! ...writing those very 1st emails to a completely new person (woman in my case) like sending a signal out into the void of space, and hoping to (SOMEDAY!!) receive some sort of reply.

Only in their case it was not by a possible romantic partner (friend maybe) and it was only some 37 years later (I think it was) ... before there was ever a reply back from whoever received the signal, somewhere in the star system of Vega lol

I hope that never happens to anyone on here!!
(feeling ignored or "deflected" by a new person when writing a 1st-time email, not the space signal thing LOL)
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Msg: 93 (view)
 
Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 12:14:09 PM
Another thing ... I wonder why there aren't MORE women on this thread? I have only seen maybe 1 or 2 actual WOMEN who have been replying on this thread - is it because ALL of the rest of you women actually might feel CONVICTED and maybe GUILTY because of how you have treated some men before? I HOPE SO.

Anyways, this was posted by "greyymatter" back on page 2, but people (read: WOMEN especially) NEED to read it !!!!!



Posted By: greyymatter on 10/20/2006 914 PM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste
Message: --THE HOPELESS DEFENCE: The Defence of the average guy on POF--

Guys, it's very difficult for women to imagine what it is like to be a decent guy on this site. Some of the women here, no offence, really don't have the right perspective.

Imagine you are a guy. This is a little more difficult than it first appears, so, let me tell you a story of what normally happens when I write a message:

I read the person's profile to get a feel - if I sense a spark, I glance some deal-breaking facts: what city? children? available? Then I read it again. If there's nothing in the profile that inspires me to write her, I'll add her to my favorites to do it another day. To be honest, it is difficult to be inspired sometimes because on many occasions I might think a person is cute, but they didn't say anything or just said "I'll fill this later" so I just add her and continue clicking around. Other days I'll actually do an advance search and work through the list.

If I really feel like I have somthing to say I'll spend maybe 15- 20 minutes drafting up a message, but I might not send it till I think it actually has a chance of catching a person's attention - I hate feeling I've "wasted" my chance. They usually weigh in at about 300+ words - depending on how much the other person said in their profile. I usually have more to say, but I'm afraid of looking... I dunno, chatty?

Then I send it out and check in on it later that day. Here are some approximate stats:

1/3 - unread deleted
1/3 - read deleted
1/3 - unread (and never will be)

Of the "read deleted" ones, about 2/3 of them are delted immediately, while the other third kinda hang in pergatory forever.

You don't want to know how many messages I've sent over my time at POV.

I can COUNT the number of responses I've had on one hand - and none of them were ever really substantial. I've had two with 3 or 4 lines in them, and the rest were literally one liners. All of them stopped messaging after just a few friendly messages - usually 250 words from me, and one or two lines from them.

Now to those women out there that say they refuse to cut and paste, I do understand your view completely. I don't read spam, so why should you? If I were a woman, I'd only want to read real messages from guys that actually spent time on my profile, not some guy that sent the same post to 10 different girls.

But if you were a guy who has experiences like this, would you continue to write geniune messages to each and every person you were interested in?

Of course you answer, "why yes." Then I ask, would you continue to do that, if after a number of years you get no responses? - maybe you would. And honestly, I do.

And for those of you that just thought, "well only an idiot would keep trying after a month...." --- that's EXACTLY what tempts guys into cutting and pasting.

In defence of the guys out there that cut and paste, if you're a guy that doesn't tend to attract responses, your odds of getting a response are probably less than 1/100 (that equals 1 response every 16 hours, at 10 minutes a letter). Now, actually I'd be unbelievably happy thinking that in about 50 hours of letter writing, I'll maybe get one response. For me, that's not true.

But remember how it'd be nice to write to only those you are truly interested in? If you found one of those individuals every other day, say, it would take you almost a year - just to get a response - that's just a response, not an actual conversation.

So guys, on average, how many responses out of 10 become actual dates? - I honestly don't know - tell us!

Now, for all teh women out there, if you were a guy, would you follow your own advice and spend 10 minutes or more on every profile you were interested in? I have, and I will admit that it's very tough on a guy knowing that every letter that you've spent time writing will never result in anything - or even be read.

It's not a matter of laziness at all (not for all guys, I mean) but practicality - unless you think spending a few years writing dilligently for a few responses should be expected of us.

And if any of you think I'm exaggerating, let's see if any guys on here have experienced the same?



damn dude, RIGHT ON !!!! that was another EXCELLENT RESPONSE!!
You have totally echoed ALOT of my same experiences not just on this site but on other dating sites in the past! YOU KNOW HOW IT IS!

HE IS NOT EXAGGERATING NOT EVEN ONE BIT !!!

IT IS SADLY TOO TRUE !!!!

I WISH MORE WOMEN HAD A FREAKIN' CLUE !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 12:00:19 PM
Sahaja said to Bill, the following:


Yes Bill I did read your post.I stand by what I said. The first email is the one that matters, not the second.

It's all fine and dandy that you sit behind your computers, collect messages from men to feed your cravings for attention,

I certainly don't sit in front of my computer collecting messages to feed a craving for attention. I'm on here to find a DATE. You sound bitter, maybe you don't think women deserve better than a lazy c/p job.



And I have to say ...

The women who DON'T deserve better than a "lazy" (lousy) "c/p job" are the ones who read (or at worst: NEVER read) our 1st emails (even if it was or was not a "copy/paste job") and then DELETE them without even replying back a single word .... GRRRRR THEY DESERVE IT.

the women who are actually NICE and COURTEOUS and CARING and at the least, HUMANE and RESPECTFUL of someone, DESERVE MUCH BETTER and I GIVE as good as I get ... I love writing to a woman i actually enjoy talking with and whom I think I share common interests ... I admit that I AM ALSO a very bitter person BUT ONLY when it comes to women who do such AWFUL THINGS!!! I am just the opposite when i am in the company of someone not only pleasant (at the bare minimum) but with whom I start to feel a vivacious excitement from the sharing of her personality and passions and when the discussions just takes off? I'd give the WORLD for someone to be with me like that ! I think anyone would ?

the sad thing about being online is that "Real" type of experience just cannot happen ... except in real life AND in person .... just another reason why it is SO HARD on here!! even on a free site, the communication barriers are SO THICK we have to be VERY CAREFUL how to conduct ourselves or we will end up making ourselves look very bad (which I have unfortunately done alot of and even I have to repent and AMEND for alot of things)...

I wish more people had morals and knew what REPENTING and AMENDING meant.
Saying "sorry" is never good enough only by itself. People must learn how to "make things better" again, how to HEAL a broken situation and turn the bad into good. How to "make amends" for what they have done, is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT and I believe in it strongly, because it is the only way us imperfect people can get along with each other, especially when we fail and we allow our "bad sides" to show :-(

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Msg: 89 (view)
 
Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 11:50:23 AM
hmmmm
I have seen this happen on ALOT of dating sites which I have unfortunately been a past member of (before I came here to this site, POF). I agree with this man tho, at least he could tell what he was reading, he was SMART enough to realize what was going on!
Good call, man!

so here is what "Pokerman40.2" had to say:


I got a copy and paste message from a women just the other day (my very first copy/paste as near as I could tell).

It read:

Hi sweetie, I read your profile and think your (sic) hot. I'm free tomorrow night. Send me a note at (email address) and if I like what I read, well (sic) hook up.

She was twenty years younger than me and very good looking in a crack addict sort of way. She was also a prostitute. Oh well, just my luck. Her profile was deleted by POF the next day so I couldn't even put her on my favorites list.

So see, us guys get those copy and paste jobs, too.


GOD I HATE THAT, when SPAMMERS (REAL SPAMMERS) send out mass messages as a way of getting you to EMAIL them off-site with your real address in hopes of just getting your address to add to their lists so they can then SPAM YOU WITH MORE SPAM or get you to visit another website which ... get this ... ONLY ENDS UP BEING A PORN XXX webcam site with NO REAL PEOPLE that youi can "get to know" ON IT WHATSOEVER (only anonymous and completely "unknowable" girls ... who are yet amazingly "hot models") and the site ends up being where they are ALL just showing ALL their stuff on webcam ... geezzzzzzzzzz)

GOD I HATE THAT !!!!
I WANT TO KNOW SOMEONE ON THE INSIDE NOT JUST THE OUTSIDE!
and porn spammers on dating sites are a SICK JOKE!!

I think that maybe more dating sites (and maybe POF too) need people to help weed these damn spammers out. SO FAR I have only received 1 spam email from a porn spammer trying to get me to mail them "right away" (a clear sign) about hooking up ... LMAO I mean, come on. 1 woman said she can spot a "copy and paste job a mile away" but US MEN can also spot the porn spammers (not real women but FAKE profiles) right away, also.

So just like women get all the horrible emails and disrespectful "boys" to deal with, us men ALSO get this other stupid S.H.I.T. to deal with, as well. It's all a mixed bag and we ALL have to stick our hand in without seeing what we get!!!

ya know what I also hate? and why I am SO HAPPY about Plenty Of Fish? I LOVE that POF is FREE and does not charge anything EVER! Because I am SICK of all the other dating sites that ONLY CHARGE THE MEN ALOT OF $$$ and NEVER EVER charge any women for ANYTHING!!!! THAT SICKENS MY HEART AND STOMACH!!

ugghg...
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Msg: 88 (view)
 
Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 11:37:34 AM
wow I love what "heyitsdoug" said! HERE HERE!!
I TOTALLY AGREE - that is how it is !!!!


I don't copy and paste anything in e-mails.
It IS frustrating when you spend time reading profiles and
crafting a well thought out e-mail only to be ignored, but
it's just one of the things you have to deal with when it
comes to on-line dating. (I've even had women contact
me first then not reply when I answer them.)
I don't send out hundreds of e-mails so it's not a problem
to type out each one, but I do admit that I sometimes don't
give it my best effort......I feel a little foolish when I do
write a long message and it's ignored, and regardless of
the EXCUSES women use for ignoring them....it is RUDE!
I'm not talking about messages that just say "HI" or those
that ask for sex or make lude comments, or even copy
and pasted ones. Ignoring someone JUST because you're
not interested is rude and lazy.....and cowardly.


And I also love what "StormReaver" said, I also TOTALLY AGREE!
HERE HERE!!


That's because the soul has been sucked out by the 100th woman who didn't have the decency to even acknowledge the man who spent 10-15 minutes typing each of those unique mails. Some of us have demanding professional lives, and don't have the time to waste hours every day writing what women treat as electronic toilet paper. Our motivations are usually transformed into efficiencies.


MEN OF THE WORLD UNITE!
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Msg: 87 (view)
 
Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 11:17:36 AM


Ahhhhhhhhh here I am now, AND I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ADMIT that I DO "copy and paste" but ONLY for the 1st-time CONTACT ATTEMPT and NEVER after any replies to that.

And here I am going to paste something that someone said earlier, ONLY BECAUSE this one man on here said something that I TOTALLY agree with!!! And I seem to think and believe the same way he does, about the sometimes VERY DISHEARTENING EXPERIENCE writing to a woman the FIRST time ONLY:

here I am going to post his original reply here ONE MORE TIME because I believe this REALLY NEEDS TO BE HEARD (read) .... it is very important!! MANY WOMEN ON THIS SITE ARE HEARTLESS, and even if you DID write a completely original letter to them that is only about getting in contact with that 1 woman UNIQUELY, MANY MANY MANY women will just f_u_c_k_i_n_g DELETE the letter if they even read it or not ... at all !!!!

so FACE IT WOMEN, you are just going to have to DEAL with it, AT LEAST IF ONLY for a FIRST TIME CONTACT ... we MEN get sick and TIRED of being DEFLECTED like we're a ping pong ball when we don't even know each other !!! Those of us men who believe we are good in our hearts and DO want UNIQUE contact with a UNIQUE (albeit new) person, a lady who we do not know yet but WISH to get to know .... it HURTS to get rejected SO MUCH even when we write a totally polite and considerate and warm uniquely-crafted letter to just that 1 person ... IT TAKES ALOT OUT OF US ... for some or many of us, our hearts and minds EMPTY VERY QUICKLY and we get SICK AND TIRED of women who just BRUSH US OFF or DEFLECT US WITHOUT EVEN A THOUGHT OR A CARE !!!!! THAT IS WHY MANY PEOPLE (men, women? at least it is why *I* MY SELF) do the "copy and paste" letters ONLY for the 1st contact ... and then from that point on, IF we even get a reply, we (or at least I myself) do reply back in unique written form, a unique and original "to-them-only" reply, according to a conversation that has just begun. I BELIEVE IT IS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED, ESPECIALLY when ATTEMPTING to start contact with a complete stranger (and dammit I DO read profiles and I actually do LIKE IT when I can identify with what someone has written and listed about themselves)...

so here is what this man said, it was one of the very first replies and I love how he said it, it totally made me feel better about how sick some women on this site have treated me when i have tried to write ACTUAL UNIQUE FIRST-TIME letters only to be PUSHED AWAY and told "sorry you are not my type" (which is another F'N gripe of mine because in my view, it is totally STUPID to try and jump into a relationshp with a stranger so I am only looking for FRIENDS FIRST ONLY) ... ARRRRGGGGHHH but that is another gripe for another time!!!!

so here is what "Bill_200" said:

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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/20/2006 10:09:54 AM
IN DEFENCE OF CUT-AND-PASTE

(cross posted from another thread where I originally wrote this)

You girls need some perspective. Try creating a fake men's profile and getting attention from women. The reality is, it's really difficult. Men have to initiate contact (if men didn't, there would be a whole bunch of people signed up on this site, but nobody would be actually connecting). Then consider that men, on average, probably receive about 1% response rate to emails they send out. If women in general can't even be bothered to respond, why should men carefully construct 100 individual emails just to get one response.

(Side note - please don't post to tell me that YOU respond to every email you get. While this might be true, I'm talking about women on this site IN GENERAL.)

So what's the answer to this conundrum? I have a carefully worded generic email that I send to select women that look intesting to me. It's written mostly about me, and since I don't change from day to day, it's always accurate. It also asks some generic questions in hopes that it will initiate a dialogue. Yes, it is a cut-and-paste email and I'm not ashamed of it. It's respectful, interesting and funny, and it nets me about 30% response - if it works, why fix it? From there, my second email is completely original - based on whatever response I get, and converstation can flow naturally from there.

Face it - this site is a numbers game, with the numbers stacked heavily in favour of the women. It's all fine and dandy that you sit behind your computers, collect messages from men to feed your cravings for attention, and then snicker amongst each other that some of us cut-and-paste messages. As I said at the top, put yourself in our shoes.

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and I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM 100% and I wish more women would just F'N UNDERSTAND!!! but it seems that MOST of the time, ALOT of you women (not naming names, but ALOT of you women!!!) DO NOT CARE to even try to listen or read ... because all of the other idiot sleazy "BOYS" (read: NOT real men) on here are ruining your experience on this site (this is a perfect visual example of how many sleazy men on here chase after the women and disgust her: ) so some of you women end-up taking your hurt and WEARINESS of men out on the OTHER good men like us (at least I believe I am a good one)...

Ya know, I hear alot from women about how so many of us MEN are "heartless" and cold but I am sorry I have just the opposite experience. ASIDE from the MANY replies I have gotten, there were also MANY times that I got NO REPLIES AT ALL, even when I did craft a perfectly unique and original letter for the FIRST CONTACT ATTEMPT and a day or sometimes even a WEEK later saw it in my mail as being "UNREAD, DELETED" .... some people on here are ****ING B.I.T.C.H.E.S!! GRRRRRRR so why waste my time unless I can TEST AND SEE if a woman that I am going to be interested in and write to will actually be NICE enough to reply in a HUMAN way? CAN'T WE ALL JUST BE COURTEOUS with each other and if we are not looking or interested in someone's profile (which is also another gripe for another time ... grrrrrrrrrrr) can't we at least post a SHORT REPLY? I mean, hell, if a woman replies to me "sorry not looking" or "not interested" then I am actually THANKFUL that she was polite and courteous enough to acknowledge my existence and that I actually wrote her AND that she actually bothered to care to even say something RESPECTFULLY written back to me to let me know! IT IS CALLED COURTESY, ladies, and some of you lack it (or do not care to use it) and it really bites our ass....

I may seem like a bit of a misogynist to people who listen to me for a long time, but I have been bitten in the ass SORELY by MANY MANY MANY MANY women in my past and I am SICK OF IT ... I should be a men's advocate against the "BAD WOMEN" in the world ... because there are already 100000000000s of you women who are advocates against the "bad men" ... blech!

why aren't there more REAL WOMEN who actually CARE or are AT THE LEAST, HUMANLY COURTEOUS and RESPECTFUL of others, out there in the world ??? I think that is the LEAST anyone can hope for or expect when trying to simply have or initiate a CIVIL correspondence or a NEW conversation with someone!


--Ryan

sighs :-(
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 118 (view)
 
Upstate NY POF campaign...
Posted: 11/18/2006 8:48:35 AM
hi
Cohoes here, near Albany (and i "feel" upstate from NYC even though I have never been there but anytime you ever tell anyone that you are from "New York" they never think of the STATE only the city (blech!) And just like the others have said, "upstate" to me is like UPSTATE! the mountains and lakes and what-not (whatever cities are up there, I have never seen that area neither!)

Anyways, I am not even from here, I am from the Detroit / PONTIAC MICHIGAN metro area!! But I have only lived here 4 years and I have yet to make much in the way of friends (I hardly have any but I have not had much of a chance to work on that since I have been disabled even longer than that). I NEED TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE dang it .... blah ....... :-\

Anyways if it is possible i could try to get to a "get-together" if i KNEW someone to go with ... ? I really don't know anyone and i don't feel comfortable in the midst of complete strangers unless I have at least one other person there that I know and can talk to before meeting and talking to anyone NEW.

But I would try. I need to meet more people.
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 69 (view)
 
WHAT THE HELL ?!?!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:01:07 AM
ya know what.
reading everyone's replies (with very few exceptions, there actually WERE EXTREMELY FEW well-behaved people on this thread) ... 95% of you do not even have a CLUE of the main extent of what I was even complaining about, nor of the whole point that I was getting at.

F Y I, the phrase "rose of sharon" that I was using was NOT from some John Steinbeck novel, it was a biblical phrase and in no way was I quoting from Grapes of Wrath.

sighs

most of you did not even BOTHER to read or LISTEN to what I really had to say and instead because you did not want to try to even understand, you just took what little you thought you grasped of it, and ran on and on and on and did nothing but TOSS INSULTS back at me with no obvious regard for respect or tolerance or courtesy or to even be polite in the first place. NOTE THAT I IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM EVER BEGAN ANY TIRADE DIRECTED AT ANY PARTICULAR PERSON - did I? If I am wrong then I will admit if shown to be so. But I do not believe that I did, so at what point did i start to deserve all the ROTTEN COMMENTS THAT 95 % of you have already thrown my way ?!?!?!?!!?

MY WHOLE MAIN POINT WAS THAT IT WAS ENTIRELY WRONG FOR PEOPLE - FOR ANYONE ... TO BE DISSED (disrespected or INSULTED or "cast down" or REPUDIATED or disenfranchised or rebuked in any fashion whatsoever!) ONLY for BEING ON THE SOLE ACCOUNT of their looks, whatsoever state they may be in. To REPUDIATE, to INSULT, TO BACKSTAB, TO insult a name OR outer OR inner being of anyone, to libel or slander a person's character or person, just because one thinks they are "ugly" or just because their outer looks are "not up to par" with YOUR STANDARDS .... IS SO DAMN WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!

AND THAT WAS MY WHOLE POINT !!!! IF ANYONE HAD EVEN BOTHERED TO READ ANYTHING I HAD SAID IN MY THREAD THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY, albeit in very verbose and exhaustive forms ... sighs.

Is it such a sin to LAMENT in such prosaic and prolific fashion? did not the writers of grand renown do such after their own fashion and have they ever been matched since? NO THEY HAVE NOT. Has anyone forgotten Jeremiah? or King David? or even the poet Milton? Has anyone even bothered to read the Psalms or the Lamentations? Or "Paradise Lost" ? I AM SORRY IF NONE OF YOU LIKE MY WAY OF EXPRESSING MYSELF BUT I NEED NOT ASK PERMISSION OR APPROVAL FROM ANY OF YOU ... ABOUT HOW I VENT MY FEELINGS NOR HOW TO EXPRESS HOW I FEEL ... and I hope that now I am finally clear on THAT.

honestly, to sum all of this up. I am now even MORE DISGUSTED at how people have treated ME simply for pointing out a STICKING SORE POINT about websites like this, and especially the 1 particular thread in question about which I was so thus disgusted. And yet so many of you RAILED AGAINST ME FOR NO GOOD REASON, as if i had injured any of you personally ???

NOT.

Some of you need to start looking in the mirror more often, because I am not the only one around here with obvious problems. It is something that I do every single day (look myself in the mirror) and I think it is high time that some of you start doing so. You say that I am VAIN for simply liking to hear myself talk? And yet, whose vanity was it who insulted people in the original thread simply because someone ON THIS WEBSITE was "ugly" ?

It was NOT I. If you felt guilty or injured by something that I said, then I do not think it is any problem of mine. If your conscience convicts you, then perhaps you ought to be more subject to YOUR OWN CONSCIENCE, than to mine, and ought to deal MORE WITH YOUR OWN SELF, than to deal with me, especially when i have no fraction of relation of ANY OF YOU PEOPLE's "problems" at all. I have enough of my own, thank you very much, all the same.


Now ...

if anyone would care to bother to even re-read anything I have earlier said and perhaps attempt to re-understand it for what it REALLY DID say, and as some VERY FEW here have already done (within 5 % only) .... then I am honestly feeling quite honored by that very scant few (you know who you are :-) Other than that ...

Veni, Vidi, Vici.


-- PPX
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Hudson Valley Roll Call
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:46:24 AM
I don't know if Cohoes counts as part of the "Hudson Valley" but i am near that area, at the least. I would be up for meetings but I have no way to get anywhere. I am disabled and have no car and so, meeting anyone is near impossible for me because nobody has shown that they give a care just yet :-\

but it sure would be nice to get out of this damn house for once. I almost never get out, all i ever do is sit around here and it is so damn awful ...
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 46 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:30:11 PM

Sorry. Obviously you're not getting the point.

What you're saying is just not interesting enough for us to spend all that time reading it.




2 Timothy 4:3 For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,
2 Timothy 4:4 And will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and man-made fictions.
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 29 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 5:47:58 AM
wow
I never expected to read such HATE in people's responses :-(
now people actually think that *I* am the vain one, merely for expressing my point to the point of exhaustive extent? I am sorry but I never knew that it was a widely accepted "more" (mor-ay) amongst humanity that to speak about a topic for such a length of time and space is somehow ... wrong ?

Don't people READ anymore?
Must everything be broken up into teeny tiny bits for "easy digestion" just like a parent chops up food for their baby child ? Must I only puree' all of my expression into the "cliff's notes" version whilst sacrificing all the power of the written word?

I think I have obviously touched on people's nerves here and ya know what?
I am not ashamed of anything I have said.

Perhaps some people feel guilty? Obviously others simply do not want to take the time to read much of what I posted, probably because it's "too much" for them to swallow in only 1 bite and that's about as much as they can eat, unless it is "pureed" for them like baby food. blech

I guess I am not the kind of person whom feels obligated to "pre-digest" anything I write, for anyone's temperate appetite for listening. If it's not something you want to read, then don't read it. I don't remember ever picking up this post and shoving it in anyone's faces. After all, it wasn't like I hijacked someone else's thread and used it for my own views. No, I posted my own. It actually turned out better that way because I would not want to do such a bad thing as that.

If some of you don't wish to listen (or read actually) then why did you reply, unless I really struck a nerve with some of you? perhaps with some the guilt of conviction might have taken place, or at the least, I would hope that I might let people see just another person's frustration with the rest of the human race (mine). Is that so wrong, to vent?

Suddenly I somehow feel like I would be instantly ostracized or criminalized amongst you people for simply having an opinion (even if it was expressed over a long group of successive paragraphs).

On 1 note which someone brought up, I never said that a person should never have preferences. Of course people do. I know I do. But was I even talking about MY dealings with people for purposes other than simply trying to find a friend? NO. All I am here for is to make friends, but obviously I ran into a very unfriendly crowd (many of you at least). wow. You know I never expected this kind of reaction from anyone. As far as what a person's preferences about someone's appearance might be, I am not someone to judge that. In fact I WASN'T JUDGINT THAT AT ALL. All I was talking about, is how ONE or TWO DIMENSIONAL, FLAT, SHALLOW, TERSE, SHORT, and "CURT", if not downright CRUEL on a first response, that some people can be on sites like this (in particular this site) AS WELL AS other websites that exist for the same purpose.

If anyone really had a problem with something I posted, I do not think it is a problem with me. I was merely expressing my experience, my feelings, and my thoughts, and especially my DISGUSTED REACTIONS, the repercussions within me, after reading that OTHER THREAD about people who are all against others who resent being looked at online.

Now, one final point: I also never said that it was ever right to "lie" about one's appearance. But I have to say this: if a person ever did lie to ME about their appearance and if i ever met them, I WOULD BE UPSET ONLY ABOUT THEIR LIE, NOT ABOUT HOW THEY LOOK (whether it be different or not). WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU ARE ONLY LOOKING FOR A FRIEND IN THE FIRST PLACE ??? (as I am!!) HELLO??? MCFLY ???? THAT IS ALL I LOOK FOR AND I MYSELF do NOT CARE what someone looks like IN THAT REGARD.

I think that most of the problem here with peopler responding to me and what I read is that they are NOT TAKING INTO POLITE CONSIDERATION the fact of WHERE I am coming from, and WHY I am here. I was not judging anyone else for WHERE THEY were coming from or why they were here, only their comments on that other thread, which talked about "how ugly these people were who lied about how they looked, oh they were ugly as sin" etc etc etc..... NOW THAT IS DISGUSTING I AM SORRY BUT IT IS. Not the fact that someone LIED or that someone DID NOT LIKE THE LIE. But that someone would talk about someone else's appearance in such a way that DEGRADES THE OTHER PERSON simply for how they look. and THAT, my friends, is the SIN OF VANITY. AND THAT is what drives people apart, creates RIFTS in society, and causes problems amongst people of like behaviors. It is a SOCIAL ILL and I hate to see it happening in any online or offline society because it only CAUSES PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE. And yet, people keep on doing it, because THEY DO NOT CARE. AND THAT IS ANOTHER THING THAT IS WRONG, and DISGUSTING.

yeah you all think i like to hear my own words, because I type so much. so what? DON'T READ IT THEN, go read something else like an Archie comic book, it might be more "on your level" to digest small bits at a time rather than something as important as this. SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY, MOVE RIGHT ALONG ..... obviously then my comments were NOT SUITED FOR YOU since some of you cannot handle them or will not bother reading them. Once again, I have not made anyone read anything. Being here is of free will, and that applies to ALL OF US.

Now, can we have some REAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING PLEASE ???
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 15 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 1:30:40 AM


first of all your not ugly lets get that out of the way, if you think you are ugly someone has been messing with your head.....NO REALLY!!! but I will say it is refreshing to see someone as eloquent as yourself put the holier than thou in their place. not that it will do any good because I know and you know that it won't but it doesnt hurt to vent, hey maybe someone will "get it" though I highly doubt it, perhaps when the beauty fades from their faces at around 55years of age it will sink in and when all that tanning they do makes them look like leather faced beasts [payback is a **** lol] then and only then will they begin to understand what your saying...


aye, matey! ARRRRRRR ye be right! hehe
but i wish people would discover such truths while they are yet young, heck i still feel young, i am only 33 going on 34. And while I know that nobody has ever called me "ugly" (not by looking at my face anyways), I can tell that I have been through alot of abuse during my childhood years when having to suffer under the yoke of older kids whenever they could not stand looking at me, the overweight boy, whose fat made him UGLY (so they said, and as i also began to believe more and more ... until i developed a true mind of my own and wrote them off).

Anyways ...
I wish I could have posted all these things on that OTHER THREAD but this darn website does not seem to like large replies, so I had to cut everything into little bits and pieces and damn i hate that. Why doesn't the Administrator here let people post as long as they want? or is that a "feature"? lol

oh well.
I hope that people (ESPECIALLY younger people too, because they usually ALWAYS fall into the TRAP of Vanity) - I hope they DO listen and HEEEEEDDDDDD what I have said. VANITY is not just a sin against one's self, it is also a HUGE SIN against other people. Because, as I said already, it affects your state of mind and thinking and how you act and talk around others. how you treat others is based on how you treat yourself !! And VAIN people are notoriously SHITTY to many people in that regard! Hence my whole point lol

as far as "paybacks are a ****" hahahaha ain't that the truth .... lol
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 14 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 1:24:48 AM


I'm kind of wondering what you mean when you refer to those who think of themselves as the "Rose of Sharon" types....if you're familiar with "The Grapes of Wrath" you'd understand that Rose of Sharon proved herself, in the end, to be caring and selfless......putting the needs of others before her own, and in her time of greatest need....


Actually no I have never read that book but I DO know that he took that name-phrase [the] "Rose of Sharon" from the BIBLE!! And that is where I was drawing my reference FROM, not that book. :-) As far as what I remember, from the Bible, to not go into detail about historical reference, I can say what I remember in that "The Rose of Sharon" was typically used to express something that is very beautiful, not just a flower or a woman, or even a man, just something that is widely recognized as a beautiful creation. And in a prophetic sense, it is also a type of Jesus Christ. NOW, I HAVE TO SAY that I was not in any way alluding to the reference to Christ or that book "Grapes of Wrath" AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. But what I was getting at, is, there are people who "like to be looked at" as if they are "all that beautiful" as the "Rose of Sharon" .... some people's vanity makes them act and believe like they are "all that and a bag of chips" etc ... Some people can get so obsessed about their image and/or self-image that they really end-up becoming the OPPOSITE of what they think they are.

And to mention I was drawing a comparison between "The Rose of Sharon" and "The Lily of the Valley" (also a type of Christ but I was not using this phrase in that sense neither). I was talking about how self-vaunted Roses are nothing of substance just sheer looks, when compared to a "beautiful creation" of a person who has gone through hard times just because in earlier times they were regarded as "ugly" before, and "not up to snuff" as far as the Roses-type people were ever concerned.

I was just making comparisons vis-a-vis them examples. I may have used them out of context, sure, but I was trying as best as I could to convey my point of view. My apologies if I confused anyone.

oh and PS: as much as I admire the REAL biblical concept of the "Rose of Sharon". I think I much prefer the substantial character of a NON-VAIN person as represented by someone who has definitely undergone a life of pain and suffering, as depicted in "The Lily of the Valley" *if wisdom would smile, then picture me doing so now* :-)


--PPX
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 12 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 1:14:22 AM
(FINALLY this is the end of the continuation of my lil "rant" or "accurate observation" as someone called it (thank you lol))

... UGGGGH at them VAIN people :-(

LIFE IS ABOUT THE INNER PERSON!! Our lives are here and gone in but an instant, we have only the space of time as it takes a vapor to appear and then waft away! THE INNER LIFE IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT, and how much more so when dealing with our fellow man! FORGET ABOUT THE OUTSIDE AND EMBRACE WHO PEOPLE ARE ON THE INSIDE!! EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS PHYSICAL AND MATERIAL and "appearance-based" IS SUPERFLUOUS AND WILL ALL OF IT DIE IN THE FIRE at the End of the Ages!!

----

On another note, another thing I am TOTALLY sick of, is when I write someone just asking to be friends (only), then they write back to the effect where i think they are immediately thinking that I am asking for a relationship from the get-go or wanting to get into their pants right away, and they, literally and REFLEXIVELY, just brush me off with a "sorry I am not interested, YOU'RE NOT MY TYPE" comment - W T F ?!?!? I HATE THAT! Of course it makes absolutely no sense at all, especially amongst strangers who not only do not know each other, but could not even possibly know whether one or the other person is ANY type, to begin with. Impossible, nonsensical. And I am only here looking for friends ONLY, FRIENDS ONLY, FRIENDS ONLY LOL geezus. Yet when I write such a simple introductory PLATONIC FRIENDS-ONLY letter, so many women just seem to think they are reading between the lines or something and THERE AREN'T ANY LINES to read between. I think they just think that I want to "take them" into a relationship somehow, or bed them right away. NOT! uggh ... *shakes my head big time* lol What is wrong with you people who do that ?!?!?
ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHH WHERE are people's MINDS???


--Ryan aka ProphetPX
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 11 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 1:10:07 AM
(Continued ...)

And now I have to make a point from my own personal point of view, and that is this: I have found that those who are considered "ugly" by the standard of most people whom are usually external to them, OFTEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MOST PAIN and RIDICULE, SORROW, RECOMPENSE, and CRUEL HATRED from others based upon the VANITY HATE factor. It happens all the time when kids in school get teased and ribbed and BEATEN UP for simply being over weight or "ugly" in some way. Well I have to tell you people, ALL OF THAT HAPPENED TO ME AS WELL. So I think I have alot of room to say that I AM VERY ASHAMED OF ALOT OF YOU for even talking in the ways that you have! I know that almost nobody here knows me yet, and vice versa because I don't know hardly any of you yet. But this being the 1st post I have ever seen or felt the urge to comment on, right away, well, what can I say? I FELT VERY AGITATED just by reading some of people's chat on here!! YOU PEOPLE MAY NOT BE BEATING UP ON ANYONE OR ANY KINDS of PEOPLES IN PARTICULAR, BUT YOU ARE BEHAVING AFTER A FASHION IN THE SAME WAY AS CHILDREN DO WHEN IN THE SCHOOLYARD, and that is EXACTLY THIS: DENOUNCING THOSE WHO ARE UGLY JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU ARE "prettier than thou" and believe it or not, violence stemming from those kinds of petty and frail ideals - THAT IS HOW HATE CRIMES start ... from even an early age of school years, all the way up to people who just have not been able to master their fears and feelings of inadequacy enough to CONTROL their temperaments about how people look.

And it is my opinion that only the PEOPLE WHO HAVE SO FULLY KNOWN AND UNDERGONE SUFFERING at the hands of others who "think they are ugly" and then people who are told that start believing it after so long a period of time of constantly being told that ... I believe it is ONLY MY KIND OF PEOPLE (the ugly ones) that truly understand what the concept of being like a "Lily of the Valley" means. Without the flimsy feather-flown care-free lifestyles of the "rich and famous" (or in this case, the people who are vain and think we are too "ugly" for them), well, what do they really know anyhow?? Certainly they would never step in our shoes even if they were the last pair on earth ... because to do that would be to step down from their lofty pedestal and suffer the humiliation of a "lesser station" of what it means to be like the "ugly people" LOL

I really should laugh ... because this is sad and pathetic. So much so... that ... I think I am just going to end this reply right here. Seeing people talk about the importance of people's looks is just ASININE.

(To be continued ...)
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 1:02:50 AM
(Continued ...)

well I tell you what, I admire beauty just like the next person, whether it be on the outside or the inside. But I think I am different from most people. I have made myself do the following things because I STRIVE TO BE DIFFERENT FROM the common man:

I will turn against my own will and I WILL face pain,
and confront all my demons,
I will look myself in the mirror every morning
and check just what kind of person I am, each and every day.

I will allow myself to share in the sorrow and the grief of others,
I want to help bear the burdens
I want to give and to love and to cherish and hopefully to keep
even the back-breaking moments in people's lives who may need me.

I will be a TRUE FRIEND to the UGLY and the "beautiful" alike,
and judge no man or woman according to their lot in life
especially when it has to do with SOMETHING AS INORDINATELY IRRELEVANT as how someone looks or does not look.

I do not find the same things to be "beautiful" as other people do. Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder, and "one man's trash is another man's treasure" and I believe that very much. People who see me on the outside usually do not wish to be around me for very long but i am of the opinion that if they could never see the outside of me and could only see the inside of me, if situations were reversed and all people could see was the inside and never the outside ... I really wonder just how different I would be treated rather than what has happened all my life thus far.

(To be continued ...)
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 5 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:20:58 AM
(Continued ...)

Whatever happened to HONEST HUMILITY instead of FLAUNTED FOOLISHNESS ?

Sometimes I wonder if I should just retire and become an ascetic monk, one who forsakes all that is external and only focuses on what is inside. I think then maybe I could get away from all these crappy ideas about looks and "being hip" (I am sure they call it something else nowadays), and/or fashionable, not to mention all of the people who believe in the whole "CLICQUE"-y-ness of sites like this, ie: those people who tend to hang together in little isolative pockets of groups of people, and who don't let anyone else associate with them, simply because THEY all dress "right" (to them) and others that don't, well, they resent if not ridicule those who don't, etc etc ....

These kinds of people think they are "The Rose of Sharon" as if their own s_h_i_t doesn't stink.

Then there are the people who, in MY view, truly are AKIN-TO "The Lily of the Valley" - these kind of lilies only grow in the deepest and darkest valleys of life where DESPAIR and HARDSHIP AND PAIN forms the most, and most people would admit that to witness people going through such things is usually seen as to be GROSSLY UGLY. Isn't seeing people going through such things usually seen as to be UGLY to most people? After all, who wants to be like the person who is suffering or in despair or in pain? And is it not a psychological fact of human nature that MOST people will tend to RUN from pain, shun anything new in that area, and always tend to FLEE from pain and RUN TOWARDS PLEASURE, at any earliest opportunity? I have learned that it is psychologically true about human nature that people do just that. EVERYONE RUNS FROM PAIN, FEW WOULD EVER DESIRE TO FACE IT. It is not normally human nature to face pain nor to wish to be in company with misery, or in this context, people who just aren't so-called "happy and pretty enough" to keep them cheered-up enough in their own shaky world which they are too afraid to admit about.


(To be continued ...)
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 4 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:18:50 AM
(Continued ...)

LIVE AND LEARN! LIFE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST WHO LOOKS HOT AND WHO IS "NOT" !!! Turn off the gossip entertainment celebrity TV shows and drop those scam rags and LEARN TO LIVE, LIVE TO LEARN, PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN INNER BEAUTY WHICH SEEMINGLY NO ONE IS ABLE TO SEE BUT THEM !!! I think everyone can agree on this point. EVERYONE has a beauty inside which nobody knows but them. And the problem is that MOST PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN TRY OR EVEN WANT TO SEE ANY INNER BEAUTY because they seem to either fall flat on their face when trying (which is no big deal really, at least people might try and I applaud that), OR they dont even BOTHER to find out just what kind of INCREDIBLE SOUL is inside a person, whatever grade of light there may be inside of them ...

The earth is filled with so many beautiful, bright creations! NOT the least of which is the natural world, not to even mention the "BEAUTY OF THE HUMAN BODY." But anyways, the natural world, which has little if nothing to do with how a man or a woman looks or appears. WE can look at the skies and the waters and the pretty landscapes and appreciate them for what they are, but you seldom find anyone who can also appreciate the somber scenes in our world, the swamps, the broken down city ruins and slums, the disaster areas, the deserts and wastelands and toxic trash dumps that we would all rather ignore ...

Well that is EXACTLY what alot of "vain people" DO to other people whom they consider just that way, "ugly". There are people in this world who consider themselves to be "The Rose of Sharon" when compared to those "toxic trash dump disaster areas" that are the people they just do not or supposedly "cannot" measure up to their own standards of appearance or "style", silly facetious fads and fashions, or what have you.

But let me tell you something... People who think they are "ALL THAT and a bag of chips" (ie: "The Rose of Sharon" type people) are usually never "all that" at all. I have found that people who are SO VAIN AND SHALLOW like that are usually just that, indeed. NEXT TO NOTHING beneath the surface, mostly BORING and SUPERFICIAL, SUPERFLUOUS people who dont even know what it IS to have "TRUE SUBSTANCE" or even know what CHARACTER means, beneath their SHEER VENEER of their much OVER-STATED outer appearance. I have found that many people who overstate the importance of one's appearance ALSO tend to focus next to nothing on what it means to have your own "inner life". Has anyone on here ever read anything by Andrew Murray??? What about Thomas A' Kempis, or St. John of the Cross? maybe even Augustine's Confessions?

I don't even know why i am even asking, 99% of you probably don't even know who or what I am talking about :-(

(To be continued ...)
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 3 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:17:23 AM
(Continued from previous post...)

To reply to an earlier poster, I agree: "Friends" are always welcome in my world too, and a person does not have to "look any certain way" for them to be a friend to me, and I would never require that a person "look hot" in order to allow them to associate or hang with me.

There are people in this world that say "I wouldn't be caught DEAD hanging-out or talking with so-and-so" ... and that is the exact same feeling and vibe that I caught from alot of the posting-people on this thread, MANY PEOPLE who replied on that thread totally came-off this way. To me, anyways.

UGGGGH at some of you VAIN, SHALLOW MORONS !!! :-(

(To be continued ...)
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:07:51 AM
Hmmmm ....
NOTE: This thread was originally going to be a REPLY on another thread (the thread was named: "Has anyone been brave enough to meet someone with no pic at all?" and that post and ALOT if not MOST ALL of it's replies REALLY STIRRED me to anger ... and disgust ... and I replied twice to it, but then it would not let me do so anymore .. I don't know why - the website (for some reason??) would not let me post it, and i tried like 10 times to no avail. I am now hoping that I can make my thoughts and feelings known ABOUT what was said on THAT thread, here in a NEW thread.


TOPIC: Why are people so VAIN ?

(read the thread named "Has anyone been brave enough to meet someone with no pic at all?" to get some background information / idea about why I am even posting this thread at all - that thread really made me want to speak out!!!! and I did, my first replies there are on page 39 of that thread, but this reply would not tack-onto it for whatever reason)


Now, before I launch on my next "tirade" (LOL) I do wish to say, that I DO understand the importance of REPRESENTING ONE'S SELF as being "REAL" and in being TRANSPARENT and in truthfully relaying the accuracy of one's appearance as "being what you say you are" ... I FULLY BELIEVE IN BEING REAL and it is a sad pitfall of being online the Internet that people ALL TOO OFTEN love to "hide behind a name" and "be whoever or whatever they want to be" before others, just for the sake and benefit of themselves. I HATE that kind of behavior and I could never condone or advocate it. I have been victimized by people who refuse to "BE REAL" when crossing over from the internet to "real life" MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY times!! So I cannot say that I do not understand what ALOT of you people were writing about. So to quickly settle and slide this aspect of the conversation out of the way, right away, I AGREE and DO SAY that people "SHOULD BE AS REAL AS THEY ARE IN REAL LIFE" when communicating to others about what they are like not only on the inside but on the outside as well.

BUT my main GRIPE about this whole thread is NOT about the REALITY aspect as much as it is about those people who suddenly find out that the person they met from the internet is "too ugly" for them, that the trial and shock of a "blind date" leads to such utter disappointment on ONLY THE MERE LEVEL of one's appearance, even if someone had not been able to, or refused to say just what they looked like ... EVEN THAT POINT ASIDE ... MY GRIPE is about people who believe they are just so much more "prettier than thou" when it comes to being around other people that they BEHAVE LIKE CHILDREN when talking about others, and their standards of dating and being in one's company. People who are so vain like this make me SICK. And I hope I never find anyone like that on here for to be friends with me. But if I do, then I can only hope I can influence them for the better, help them "see the inner light" inside a REAL HUMAN BEING, and perhaps they will really "turn blind" to the whims of one's fashion and "face".

(To be continued ...)
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 93 (view)
 
40 year old virgin question?
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:01:14 AM


40 year old virgin is not something out of this world, in fact its Godly. Isaac married Rebeccah when he was 40. to 40 yr old virgins



well that's funny, then how come I don't feel very "godly"? in fact, in some of my innermost thoughts, i KNOW that I am not godly at all, if you know what i mean ... I am 33 now, almost 34 as of next month, and I am STILL a virgin.

AHHHHH THE STIGMA THE TRAUMA THE HORROR!!! but it is totally true! :-(

Yes that's right, not a lie, totally the truth. Not something i am proud of, hate it absolutely. And I don't think of it as an accomplishment at all. :-(

i hate this but women never seem to want to stay interested in me long enough to even give me time to ever get comfortable with sex. I can't just "jump into things" like that, it would probably take me forever before I could ever consider "giving it up" to someone just like that. I just cannot do that :-(

for as much as i always hear women complaining about the men in their lives and how they only always want sex all the time, I feel I am just the opposite and the few women i have tried to have in my life have been JUST LIKE THAT, and just because I have not been comfortable with "giving it up" to them like that, they leave me, they dump me, they never come back .... growls sighs ... :-(

isn't a person worth more ON THE INSIDE than just his stupid sex appeal ???
i mean, i want someone who will still want to be with me when i am 64, when sex appeal means next to nothing anymore and the whole reason you stay with someone is because of REAL LOVE and that you can't picture yourself as being with anyone else but THAT ONE SPECIAL PERSON!! THAT IS THE KIND OF THING I WANT FOR MY LIFE and why can't I find it ??? Sure I'd love to get rid of this virginity thing and have LOTS OF HOT SEX WHILE I AM YOUNG, cuz I ain't gettin any older!! but dammit it just ain't happenin ... blah lol And if I ever wanna have kids someday (and someday I think I do), then i know that: not only does the woman have a constantly ticking biological clock (to some ladies it sounds like reverberating church bells in a tall tower at night lol), but believe it or not, I have a biological clock too, and it is telling me IT IS FAR PAST TIME TO BE ENJOYING MY YOUTH AND WHY CAN'T I FIND ANYONE TO BRING ME THOSE KINDS OF BLESSINGS WHILE I AM STILL YOUNG ???? !!!


-- a very sad virgin at 34
... hoping that i can really LIVE LIFE (sexually) some time before 64 :-(
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 959 (view)
 
Has anyone been brave enough to meet someone with no pic at all?
Posted: 9/12/2006 7:12:31 PM
SIN is ugly on the inside
LIARS and LIES are too

but talking like that about one's appearance is even MORE UGLY of YOU than the liar you are talking about

yuck
 ProphetPX
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 956 (view)
 
Has anyone been brave enough to meet someone with no pic at all?
Posted: 9/12/2006 2:43:20 PM
oh
my
god ...

this has to be one of the most SHALLOW posts on this whole forum that I have EVER seen ... yet!!

i mean, really. come on! even I have pics, but so what? what if i didn't? I see so many people on here who write in their profiles "dont expect a reply if you have no pics" or "i will not talk to people who have no pics" - have you ever thought that maybe someone does not want to be seen on the internet and they might just be wanting to protect their own privacy and not want everyone on the internet to know what they look like? Believe it or not, there are PEOPLE in this world, both "ugly" and "not ugly" (you may even call them beautiful on the outside) who DO NOT wish for the whole world to know what they look like. Some Native Americans even believe that for a photo to be taken of them, that it steals their soul (or a part thereof).

IF a person has no pics, WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ??? WHAT IS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN UPON MEETING SOMEONE WHO NEVER HAD ANY PICS TO SHOW YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE?? WHAT IS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN???

so tell me this? WHAT IS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN with hanging out with someone who turns out to be ugly (to you) - if they turn out to be ugly, SO WHAT? does that mean you should RUN AWAY IMMEDIATELY? WHAT HARM WILL IT CAUSE YOU TO SIMPLY BE A KIND PRESENCE in hanging out with that person? IS IT SOMEHOW "wrong" to hang out with someone just because they dont look like how you might expect? And even if a person did have false pics, or lie about their appearance, does that mean that, once you meet them, that you should CASTIGATE THEM and never talk or see them ever again???? I hate lying, so i can understand that part, and nothing drives me even further away like a liar, but ... SO F*CKIN WHAT ???

IF they are "ugly" ... then SO WHAT ?!?!!

Does that then mean that they should THEN be viewed as only sub-human? somehow "beneath you" as a lower form of life, not even worth your presence or company, or even your words in an email or phone conversation, simply because they dont look "hot" enough to you or others, or maybe because they somehow bruise your own eyes just by looking at them because for some SHALLOW reason you just cannot find it in you to LOOK PAST one's physical defects ???

ya know i never really watched that old show on TV long ago, called "Beauty and the Beast" but now i wish I had, because I think that I might have learned valuable lessons had I done so.

i just dont understand you people!!!

whatever happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"? and "beauty is only skin deep"?

WHY should a person be DESPISED or "shunned" just because they don't happen to have looks that are up to YOUR standards? I can understand if a person doesn't appear to take care of themselves but WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH WITH WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN US and if a person still has their dignity and does take care of themselves with the best of what they have, then WHY should a person SHUN them or want to "get away from" them upon meeting them, just because they don't find them attractive or "easy to look at"???

This is just ****ing EVIL, folks.

to shun or want to escape from someone who, you think, doesn't "look good enough" is PURE UNADULTERATED EVIL VANITY upon YOUR part. Obviously it can't be said that it is vanity on the part of the person you are observing since I can bet that in most cases they probably won't want to run away from someone who DOES happen to be good looking as it is. But for someone who would want to do that to someone whom they deem to be "ugly" is THE SIN OF VANITY, even if it is never directly applied to that other person, IT IS A SIN to treat someone with less respect, courtesy, dignity, and kindness (ie: get up and leave, or not talk to, or judge, or shun, or not be kind to ... them)!!!

Whatever happened to valueing someone for WHO THEY WERE, and FOR WHAT THEY ARE, in regards to THE INSIDE OF their OWN HUMANITY? Rather than how "good looking" they seem to appear on the outside ... which is only skin deep????

I have never had problem in admitting to my own humanity as far as the fact that YES, a woman's LOOKS ACTUALLY DO play a major part in what i look for in a love interest, and of course attraction has to be there, even physically, for any sexuality to be mustered and even basic, simple procreation of our species has near-eternally depended on this fact of life.

BUT, to put that aside for a moment, I dont think i would EVER want to "refuse a meeting" just because i dont know what someone looks like, nor would I "want to run away" or escape from someone just because I have just then met them and they happened to look ugly. That is the most INHUMANE AND COLDEST thing I have ever heard!!!

I know I really don't know much of anyone on this website yet and i am still new here, trying to get to know people .... but when i see things like this, it just burns my britches (and it's not as if i have ever been told that I wasn't easy on the eyes, women tell me they think i am good looking as well, but that doesn't matter to me anymore).

I swear i don't think i can write much more on this topic, I saw it on the list on the opening page of the main site and i had to jump on this because i couldn't believe that someone would write such a ****ing shallow thing and now i am wishing that i hadn't SPILLED MY GUTS just now and VENTED about how ANGRY i am about that because now i FEEL SICK THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS, IN THIS WORLD!!! THAT PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD ACTUALLY THINK AND FEEL THE WAYS THEY DO AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST LIKELY INNOCENT OF ANYTHING EXCEPT JUST NOT LOOKING "hot".

I think I really need to BARF now :-(
this VANITY "prettier than thou" shit is ROTTEN SIN TO THE CORE, and people like that make me sick...
 
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