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sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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I'm a little worried....Opinions please? Posted: 8/16/2005 11:47:45 PM
Oh for heaven's sake Purity....everyone here has already said it all....with any potential relationship we are taught to watch out for red flags...this isn't a red flag...it's sickening. I wouldn't let him near the children either....who knows what other pervertions he has. The fact that he even told you that he was into this is scary....RUN and take your kids with u girl..and don't

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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a few questions for girls on p-o-f Posted: 8/14/2005 2:36:23 AM
I agree that I don't think your friend is a gold digger....she sounds like a female friend who is sharing some of her problems with you...as any friend would. I don't think girls hate being spoiled...it just sounds like your friend would like to pay her own way and is upset that she can't afford to. I liked the idea mentioned that she could cook you dinner and you two could watch a movie instead of going out....but maybe she can't cook or wouldn't know what to cook...she is really young after all and if she had a crappy upbringing, chances are no one taught her how to cook. So maybe you could offer to bring the pizza and she could rent a movie...if she has a dvd player.... if not,tell her not to worry about it cuz you know she can't afford it and reassure her that you like hanging out with her and don't mind paying. People who judge others are usually insecure about themselves, they pick apart ppl to make themselves feel superior....don't pay any attention to them....they are usually losers. my secret turn on...is finding a man like Dog the Bounty hunter...rough and tough on the outside but a teddy bear inside who isn't afraid to show his emotions. good luck

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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wow...that was fast... Posted: 8/12/2005 2:20:56 AM
No gun man...you are NOT bad with women....you are just naturally hurt...and it totally sucks that she has to have a "crush" on a friend of yours....salt in the wound OUCH. I think you sound like a totally great guy who any woman would be lucky to have....and you love kids and cats too...what more could a woman want??? Hang in there and move on hon...it will take time...but not too much time at your age.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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I quit. Posted: 8/10/2005 2:23:49 AM
What a great post rainy day!!! I love the way you think. Also agree that the OP doesn't need to hear other people's rants and raves on her....like, get a life and don't post if you can't say anything positive. Sami....you are too young to "give up". Like someone suggested, perhaps take a break from looking....and I agree that you shouldn't expect much from these dating sites. Don't judge other men from people on this site....there are a lot of losers on here....men you wouldn't want anything to do with....trust us slightly cynical ones on this. Don't get me wrong though, there are some really great guys on here....but not usually someone who lives close enough to you. That's my pet peeve....seeing some great sounding guys and they live sooo far away. oh well, life goes on. good luck hon

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Okay... a little help here! Posted: 8/10/2005 1:56:48 AM
Hi sweetdream The key words here are "first love"....you will never forget your first love...ever. For me, some 30 years later and I still remember my first love very fondly and even with the other loves of my life...I think he was always "the one".....in fact, looking wayyyyy back I think maybe he was my only real love cuz my other loves just faded quickly from my mind. I agree with everyone so far...you'll get over it....and yes, it will take time. You are young and just keep an open mind and don't do what I did at your age...after I broke up with my first love who I lived with for 4 years....I married someone I barely knew 3 months later. Talk about a bad rebound LOL. And life goes on..... good luck and just try and get out of your head for now...play and party and keep busy.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Letter sent to ex...What are your thoughts on this? Posted: 8/9/2005 1:38:05 AM
Wow Princess....you've been broken up for 2 months and you're still this hurt. I feel for you, I feel your pain...been there, done that....but even after kicking my ex-husband out of the house for cheating (married 8 years)...well hon, it didn't take me 2 months to start dating again. Yes, I was still hurt..but ask yourself this question "am I hurt more because I love him or because he betrayed me and my trust in him"? If it's the latter then you're getting ready to get him out of your head and move on....let the letter be the end of it...close this chapter in your life. It obviously wasn't meant to be...better to be hurt now than way down the road cuz now you can start over. Montreal guy made a good point...if a relationship ends with no explanation, then it's like they are dead to you. good luck

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Is there such a thing as being too nice? Girls only i need your perspective...(be blunt) Posted: 8/9/2005 1:19:28 AM
for jwa Too bad you live so far away....great profile.

sunbird93

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Is there such a thing as being too nice? Girls only i need your perspective...(be blunt) Posted: 8/9/2005 1:15:08 AM
I agree with most people so far...don't play games...it's a waste of time and effort. I don't know why you're having a hard time finding a girl that is a good person....you are cute and should have no problem at all. Perhaps you're not looking in the right places? I doubt you'll meet her on a dating site...but who knows? There is some validity in the fact that girls do go for the bad boy image...I still shake my head at myself for being one of them for so long. I think women tend to fall for the bad boy in hopes of taming him...LOL..not gonna happen. You've heard it before many times but just be yourself....after a date don't call the girl for at least a few days...don't be clingy or show any real intense interest...keep things real casual, and don't tell a girl what you've said here. Act more aloof after a good date...always be yourself as far as being respectful....but don't be a pushover. And act like you are "just on another date" if you get my drift. If a girl thinks you really like her and the ball is in her court...she's more likely to take you for granted...so keep her guessing. Good luck.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Should I tell the new Girl Friend Posted: 8/7/2005 3:02:23 AM
Oh wow...this is a tough call....you know she won't believe you...I don't know how you could send an anonymous email that wouldn't sound like it came from you somehow....or at least point in your direction. It would be nice if you could. You don't know anything about her or any of her friends (who could tell her). If you can find a way to convey your message without it coming back to you...all that would have to said is for her "to watch for any red flags" from him. Depending if she's been through any of this before she might pick up on something he says or does before it actually gets out of hand....otherwise I guess she's going to have to find out for herself. At this point your major concern has to be you and the children. What a terrible situation to be in and I'm sure glad you got out of it, been there, done that. Good luck hon.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Nice guys finish last. Posted: 8/2/2005 2:19:17 AM
Ok, since you said no females were writing about this except the one you know....here goes. The same thing happened to me and yes it sucks...it sucks big time. What pisses me off more than anything is that I saw it coming and still let it happen to me. Not the exact same story as yours Reaper...but I was talking to a man on the phone every night for over a month that I met here...since my car was totalled by my ex and this guy I talked to only lives about 30 mins. from me I did expect to meet him someday. We had so much in common, knew the same people, when we exchanged pics we seem to click and liked what we saw in each other. He really opened up for a guy (sorry, no offense) and said that sometimes what he misses most is just having a big hug after a hard day at work. Real sensitive sorta person. Our conversations lasted for hours....he'd always be drinking and then started to seranade me with his guitar...you know how hard it is to listen to someone when they are drunk and you are sober. repeat repeat repeats himself. I started making excuses to get off the phone but I was still very interested in him. Then I did the bad thing. I asked him if he was ever going to stay sober long enough to come over to my end of town to meet me....he got real offended. Few days later I got THE phone call...for once he was sober and said he was very sorry if he'd hurt me but he met another woman. I got to admit it did sting a bit but I had already made up my mind that I didn't want a relationship with an alcoholic. Now I notice he's changed his profile to say he wants to meet someone who lives within 10 miles from him. LOL. I laughed at that one...so in the end I'm much better off....but yeah, I allowed myself to be taken for a ride, played like a fiddle and I really was more disappointed in myself for putting up with 2 hours of "name that tune" on the phone everynight. So yes reaper, it happens, we learn and move on and IT SUCKS BIG TIME. Better luck next time (for both of us) and I made a vow to never let this happen again...as someone above wisely mentioned....we shouldn't say too much before we meet up. When I read that it really hit home what a sucker I was. Live and learn. Good luck in the future...and remember, it's happened to all of us at one point or another.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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why woman don't reply to a proper message? Posted: 8/2/2005 1:21:29 AM
I agree with you that you should expect a response if you've expressed your interest in a lady. As long as it's not a one or two liner....like I've gotten "hi how are you"....and I've responded "fine"....your profile could use some work. I love blastkist's profile...you've said it all blastkist and I think it's the best profile I've ever seen....you have a way with words that paints a picture of you...I feel like I know you after I've read your profile...good job But back to the question...I think it's rude to not respond....I've even responded to the not so nice ones and asked them why they are on here if they're living with someone or married or just want a bootie call. I guess it depends on the person but if you say something nice and meaningful in your initial email then that deserves a reponse, just my 2 cents worth anyway.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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how can i improve my self? Posted: 8/1/2005 4:41:14 AM
hi....I can only echo what everyone has said....especially sweetcountrygirl. You are cute and you are NOT a loser. Helping your Mom pay the rent and bills is a special quality that is lacking in older men....they could learn a lesson from you. It's just that you are young, wow to be 19 again....that's a long way back for me LOL. If the girls you are finding think you are a loser for living with your Mom or find that a weakness then they have a problem and are not worth your time. Speaking of time...you just have to give it some time. You won't find the special lady of your dreams overnight. I think you are a winner and when the time is right you'll find that someone special....like the songs says "you can't hurry love, no you just gotta wait" but that's probably before your time...I also understand how you like debates although some girls your age might be intimidated by it and young girls see everything you say as a criticism instead of a debate. Personally I don't think you need any help....the girls you are trying to date are probably insecure (I was at 19). To me you are a good catch. Hang in there and when you least expect it...you'll meet someone nice. I wish you good luck in your search....just please don't change cuz you're as close to perfect as they come....just be yourself and practice some patience and all will work out good for you.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Is my man in his cave or is it over? Posted: 7/26/2005 9:25:23 PM
Why did he freaked out? Can you tell me your ideas? Butter-cup...he freaked out cuz he could. As a former rules reader I gotta say who knows why he did....maybe he just isn't as stable as you thought he was. I agree with almost everyone...forget him. Don't email him, don't call him. He'll get the message when you cut him out on business. I like that move....checkmate.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Strike One/ what did i do wrong here? Posted: 7/26/2005 9:09:43 PM
How absolutely tacky dvduck13...she was a sickie to tell you that and worse if she was doing that. Yickkkkkk. I had one woman from here tell me right out that she was sleeping with a guy from POF, but she knew he wasn't for her long term and was updating her profile while still sleeping with him - when I pointed out that this was being a player, she got mad and said I was an A-hole and I never heard from her again

sunbird93

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Who has kissed their cousin or sibling Posted: 7/20/2005 9:32:43 PM
When I was quite young I had a crush on a cousin. We hadn't seen each other much in our lives and when we DID see each other it was instant attraction. He was gorgeous. We were both very young teens and he was already 6' 5". (I have lots of tall people in my family) However, we knew it was 'wrong' and took it no further than some hot kissing one evening. That was it...we never did that again. At least thecatt is being honest here....me too, the first two phrases that is LOL.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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My Heart is Broken and I can't Stop Crying Posted: 7/18/2005 4:13:21 PM
OMG...I'm so very very sorry....I am an animal lover and I can't even watch anything on tv that has to do with sick pets or abuse...for some reason it affects me more than if it was a person going through it. I feel your pain...I've been there....be sure to go through the mourning process and you will have nothing but the good memories later. HUGGGGGGSSSS for you

sunbird93

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Is my man in his cave or is it over? Posted: 7/18/2005 4:02:12 PM
Hi butter-cup I agree with what's been posted so far. A lady as pretty as yourself doesn't need to get into his head games...there are plenty of fish in the sea. When you mentioned him going into his cave I remembered a book written by 2 women called the "rules" or something like that....have you read that? Just curious cuz I do remember the saying "next" when a guy acted like your b/f. When you get back home you'll know for sure where his head is at but the reaction he gave you when you sent him a sexy pic is raising a bunch of red flags to me. I also think a man will "cave it" when he's lost or is losing interest....and if he can't keep it together for a few months that you're away...he isn't worth your time and effort. Next him. Good luck hon

sunbird93

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Ex love of my life on POF.....help Posted: 7/16/2005 5:05:39 PM
Hmmm...if you feel so deeply for your ex still and are so upset about her being on the same dating site as you...perhaps you should step back and take some time to get over the relationship you had with her. Any woman you'd meet now would be a rebound anyway. Don't get me wrong kev...I feel badly for you and I know it ain't easy to get over someone but I'm wondering if you are ready for dating again? Anyway, good luck either way.

sunbird93

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What to do??? Posted: 6/25/2005 12:52:49 AM
Hi Tattoo gal You live pretty close to me, good old Mission hey? About your friend...I wouldn't go to anymore dirtbike races with her and her boyfriend. And yes, it does sound like she might be rubbing your face in it by overboard public displays of affection. It might not be her intention to hurt you though. Seems like she's trying to relate to you...as pitiful as it is. You know her, I don't, so I'd suggest you play it the way you think you should. If she's really bumming you out, then let some time pass before you hang out with her again. Most advice from the happy relationship people are exactly what she said...even though you've heard it a million times. Hang in there...and don't let her push your buttons. And yes, jealousy does rear its head once in awhile too...a whole lot at your age. When you're as old as me it just rubs right off of me...in fact, I'm usually thankful I'm not with the jerk that I see some friends with...LOL. Good luck....and here's another thing you've heard before...when you're not looking and least expect it, someone comes into your life....trust me on this one ;-) sunbird93

sunbird93

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being abbused mentally and physically!!! Posted: 4/26/2005 11:47:55 PM
Been there, done that...more than once (I'm guess I'm a sucker for punishment). When you come across a guy like that you have to recognize that it's all about him, not you....just pack and bail as fast as you can. Please don't repeat my mistakes...it's too painful. sunbird

sunbird93

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Question for the ladies........... Posted: 4/26/2005 11:31:49 PM
Meowmix....I feel bad for you. What a horrible thing to hear from what you considered "a good friend"....why do you think she told you now after all those years? I can sure feel the pain that must have caused you but many kujos for just letting it go. You are the definition of a true friend. I don't think I could've handled it that well....grrrrr sunbird

sunbird93

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Still hurting. Posted: 4/16/2005 7:15:37 PM
The hurting will stop in time...I was really hurt when I found out my ex-husband was cheating on me...that's a long, long time ago. Now I realize that even though I didn't love him the way I should have, it was the feeling of being betrayed that hurt. The one person I trusted after a 7 year marriage destroyed that trust. It's a hard lesson to swallow cuz our ego is also shattered. I know now my life has been much better off without him, I raised our son who was 5 at the time, Daddy played weekend daddy only cuz it was politically correct, payed his minimum child support payment and when my son turned 19, his dad just rather dropped out of his life. Two weeks isn't a long time so of course you're still hurting. Everyone here has given you good advice. Single Dad, You are an inspiration to every man out there and very unique...I wish you the best of luck finding your lover. One thing I don't agree with you about is the fact that if someone leaves a relationship it means they never loved you. I think a person can love someone and during a relationship or marriage feelings can change....no one has to be at fault for it, it's just part of life. You just have to get over it and get on with life.

sunbird93

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Virtual Relationship Posted: 3/22/2005 10:32:16 PM
Hi Kool I'd say to be very careful in these situations...things are great when talking and flirting online and telephone but I just got through with one of those and "he met another woman" crap. I didn't really care cuz I was getting turned off by him phoning so much while he was drinking and there's nothing worse than being sober and listening to a drunk....so I had made up my mind that it wasn't going to work anyway. Why he felt the need to phone me around midnite sober (for a change) to tell me...well that pissed me off when he could have waited until the next day...but all I can say is that you really don't know what's going to happen until you do finally meet. If the sparks are flying then it sounds like a go...but anything before the meeting can just be so much crap...I'm not saying that it is in your situation, I'm just saying be careful and don't give your heart to someone you haven't met yet. Good luck

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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when being completely ignored online.. Posted: 3/22/2005 10:16:15 PM
There's nothing wrong with your pics...you're cute. I always answer every message I get, whether it's to say "sorry" or "ok, am interested" even when I thought I was involved with a person on here I would answer and say so...turns out that hours of conversations were just that...a waste of my time but that's another story. I find your profile rather confusing and open to interpretation, maybe discouraging someone cuz we don't really know what you're saying or where you're coming from....and I'm not a ditzy bimbo...I'm a 52 year old redhead...and I read your profile 3 times before I actually understood that you're probably a very nice guy. I believe that everyone who takes the time to message someone deserves an answer...that is called being polite...but I've also noticed there are some very rude people on these forums. As for who'll I'll talk to...anyone who is nice and seems sincere, if I get an IM and they start with the sex stuff I'm outta there...that part is for down the road, not here. I wish I had the answers but after 3 bad experiences with men on here I'm looking for answers too. I think too many people, men and women, are playing games here, possible cuz it's a free dating site...I bet they wouldn't pay to play games. Good luck and I know I haven't helped you much but this was a bit therapeutic (sp) for me.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Can an affair strenghten a marriage Posted: 3/21/2005 7:56:41 PM
NO NO NO....Rob, I'm with you...been there, done that. When I found out, he was out the door that night...with trash bags I had already "packed"....divorced him immediately. You can never trust that person again....and I'm not a "forgive or forget" person, even if I had stayed, my unconditional fundamental trust was betrayed and I would have brought that up everytime we had a fight. I can't see any circumstances that a marriage could be made stronger...not unless they are both airheads...or drunks.

sunbird93

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Women’s pet peeves.... Posted: 3/21/2005 7:38:27 PM
pet peeves hey how about a man being over possesive to the point of insanity. Had an ex that parked and stayed in the car for 4 hours everyday while I was in school brushing up on a few courses, he was in his late 30s...needed a mommy. I didn't need a bodyguard. someone who phones too much feeling like I'm being checked on agree with the above toilet training comments my biggest pet peeve: being in a relationship lol

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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Why does it have to hurt so bad? Posted: 2/13/2005 4:16:44 PM
Hi Killalipz....and you sure do have them...you are a beautiful young lady going through a very tough time. When I was your age I had just had my son, was married to a guy who started beating me on the head (no bruises) and eventually was cheating for about 2 years before I found out...I immediately divorced him. Like you, I went through a series of abusive relationships, one time I was still in the motel I had booked into after my final breakup with a 6 year abusive relationship and met a guy and started another one. After that I stopped dating, stopped looking, turned down any offers and felt exactly like you are feeling. So been there, done that. After taking 3 years off to examine my head and wondering why I picked the wrong person or stayed in an abusive relationship so long, I came to the conclusion that I was co-dependant...it was like I was trying to change the man and we know that doesn't work, we have to change ourselves. In a perverse way I was feeding on the abuse. You are so young to have such crappy luck so far, so I don't think you have much baggage or are intentionally picking the wrong man. As far as you attracting bad guys, with your looks honey, you can attract the good ones too. Don't give your heart away too fast, take a real long look at the person you want to be with and if you see any "red flag" behavior, run as fast as you can. I just know you will find the man of your dreams, but it does take some weeding out. Take things very slowly next time and be on guard, when the man has proved himself to be worthy of you, then you can let your guard down. Good luck, and hang in there....he's out there somewhere looking for you.

sunbird93

Joined: 10/15/2004

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ADVICE PLEASE...SMILE Posted: 1/29/2005 9:37:23 PM
I agree with everyone else....age is a number. I've had my most serious relationships with younger men...but for myself I'd prefer someone who is within 5-6 year age difference. You're right about 13 being a lot younger....I wouldn't try it....but that's cuz I have problems with younger men LOL. Tell your "friend" to give it a try if it's what she really wants...but to keep a very open "eye", if you get my drift Watch out for the red flags and see just how much "they" have in common.

sunbird93

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Saggy Boobs Posted: 1/5/2005 8:36:10 PM
Oh how I can relate to this thread....glad the men like em that way....I was an A cup until I had my son....now I'm built like you blue. They just grew and grew and never went down. My son refused to be breast fed....and since they don't bind you anymore....well, gravity and weight has done it's thing. Too bad it makes my back sore...my province wouldn't cover the surgery and I probably wouldn't have it done anyway.....28 years after giving birth I'm used to it....just sagging along here. sunbird93

sunbird93

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A fellow POF member is going through a horrible time right now and could use our support... Posted: 1/5/2005 12:04:01 AM
Love conquers all....Kaitlin has suffered a severe injury and is making unbelievable strides for recovery. While I was reading this thread and I got to the coma part, I was going to say that my ex was in a coma for 6 months after a head injury in a car accident. Kaitlin is doing so much better. I will continue to pray for both of you. Sunbird93

sunbird93

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ppl with no respect! Posted: 1/3/2005 9:32:55 PM
I totally agree....it weeds out the losers. Good topic. sunbird93

sunbird93

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Sucky Christmas????? Posted: 12/25/2004 6:49:20 PM
wow Jaytea...your dinner puts me to shame. I had a good Christmas, cooked a turkey and all the trimmings (but not as much as you) and spent it with my son who lives with me.....I hear ya about your kids Dad...he is a bum and should never had phoned the kids today from HER house...I guess he doesn't care if he hurts them or not as obviously he has hurt you all. My son is 28...I divorced the sperm donor when my son was 5....his Dad did the visitation crap, and it would take me 2 days to get my son back to normal. Now they rarely see each other and there is really no relationship or love between them. The same thing will happen with your kids too, I don't know their ages but they've seen and heard enuff from him and were probably very happy to not have to deal with him. You go girl!!! You're a very pretty lady who deserves the best....and I love the pic of your cat! I just adore cats and have one of my own, actually 2 cuz the stray cat is in here waiting for his dinner...I'm such a sucker for the little devils. Wishing you all the best in 2005 sunbird93

sunbird93

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ABOUT LAST NIGHT......... Posted: 12/19/2004 5:55:22 PM
Hi....I think your friend has a low self-esteem problem....by the flirting etc and cutting your throat....she gets the validation she needs. She sounds rather poisonous to have around when you are the shy one and she doesn't seem to give a sh*t about you and your feelings. What she did was something a true friend wouldn't do. You are a very pretty lady and the one good thing is that if the man ended up paying attention to her antics, it's obvious he thought he'd get her in bed that night....not relationship material. You deserve more my friend. Go girl...and much luck to you.

sunbird93

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Why Do People Lie Posted: 11/26/2004 8:54:48 PM
I feel so bad for you. This guy is playing head games with you. For what reason, I don't know...but I suspect he is an insecure childish idiot who gets his fun by using people. He's probably the type that brags about it like "hey I got this chick to really believe me and like me"....while his juvenile buddies all clap their hands. He sounds like he just isn't fully cooked yet and may never be. I know you feel like crap right now....but this has taught you a good lesson...you can't believe anything or at least everything some man tells you. When you find the right guy you will probably see or at least sense something different about him compared to the liars....until then, be brave and thank your lucky stars that you got away from this person. Not only is he a liar but we now know he's a moody liar. Please work on your self esteem issue because you deserve only the very best guy for you and you must believe it within or you will keep attracting the losers...I've been there, done that. Good luck. sunbird

sunbird93

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Disabilities and dating.... Posted: 11/21/2004 11:14:11 PM
This is an excellent question. I would definitely date someone with a disability...in fact I think it could be a big plus. Just the fact that someone who is disabled put themselves out there in the fishbowl says alot about that person. I would rather see the disability on the outside instead of the ones lurking on the inside (if that makes sense). I've often wondered why there wasn't a noticeable dating site for handicapped people to feel safe in. BTW, George was my favorite Beatle too...and it's amazing how many kids in their 20s listen to them, my son being one of them. Good question gentlespirit (I love that handle). You are obviously a special lady.

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